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Ammzi
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.01.26 18:50:00 -
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and I have been responsible for the recent incursion interdiction or however you may call it.
Who am I and why should anyone care?
I was one of out three other leaders of the incursion community that made the original agreement to "farm" incursions back in April 2011. We were amazed and in awe of the isk earning possibilities that came with incursions and we were dead certain that CCP would come and nerf us anytime because of this artificial prolonging of incursions. We didn't think our agreements would last more than a few weeks, not to say months or almost a year as they have lasted now.
Incursions were an awesome addition to the game and the gameplay was great in the beginning. After some time everything became more and more static, nothing new was really added and nothing was quite a surprise. The only thing thing that kept me interested and actually participating was the community, the social aspect and then the great drama/politics/similar_BS that was involved in it.
Incursions still have a great potential to be iterated on and become a dynamic and realistic battlefield with a challenging UI that is able to train real FC's and simulate similar in-game PvP. Currently the majority of the "FC's" simply follow a guide that says, shoot x,y and then z. While it does teach people about the fleet window and co-operation it doesn't really prepare the fleet for different fleet compositions and maneuvers that they may utilize.
I and many others from the incursion community have been contacted by the CSM in regards to our ideas and solutions/fixes to incursions and we have given those to CCP. While this is great and extremely appreciated I feared that CCP would simply de-prioritize incursions in relation to other features and that a proper iteration/fix/patch wouldn't be seen until late spring. Thus I began plotting and planning. I knew that thousands of pilots participate in incursions every week and if their main activity was promptly shut down it would create an outcry loud enough to catch CCP's attention and especially if the threat of a continuing interdiction was implied upon.
I spoke with LFARM, Skunks and later on Bricks to organize our first assault. Had just one of them not shown up we had not been able to accomplish what we did. Therefore I personally thank each and everyone to showed up. A forum post was created and a channel too thus making a part of the incursion community aware of this possible attack. We scheduled the event and attacked the first mom in complete stealth (we might have spammed local chat ).
We managed to force the ending of two incursions leaving one highsec up. This was not everything I had hoped for, but it laid the grounds for a more extensive assault next time. During the weekend there was, but one incursion up. We utilized this time by creating assault suicide fleets to discourage people in joining incursions and spread the news and stories about our activity to every incursion runner and potential recruits that wanted to join us.
On the next assault we had a good show up and managed to down the two only existing highsec incursions. This lead to the outcry I had hoped for and the incursion community were abruptly awaken from their activities and feared that this could be a fundamental change to their incursions as they had known them. During Sunday the incursions appeared again and they were taken down again. This caused even more anger and hatred. The incursion runners were not amused.
During that time CCP had been forced to shut down 8 out of 9 threads on the front page of General Discussion and stated that everything incursion related should be discussed in that one thread. They also promised to have someone come and chip in regard the current "incursion issues". Later on Monday I believe CCP created a thread and made it sticky to get feedback from pilots on incursions and how they think it should be fixed. That was great. I had maybe achieved one of my goals which was to show CCP that they should prioritize incursions and that many players are very fond of this feature while many other players believe it should be changed. And when I say many players I mean pilots from everywhere in EVE. Highsec, lowsec, nullsec and w-space have pilots that would like to see incursions changed/iterated on.
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"Hello Im Blue,"
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Ammzi
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
772
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Posted - 2012.01.26 18:50:00 -
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What now?
Now I have to take the consequences of my actions. My rights in various channels and access to our ship reimbursement fund have been taken away. I have been banned from the Ditanian Fleet channel and FC-shields channel, but remain in BTL pub until a full investigation/assessment has been made. I would like to believe that everything I did with Krissada was done for the good of the whole incursion community and everyone else in EVE.
I have seen many good pilots and FC's getting burned out from incursions and the static content. It can really get mindnumbing grinding incursions and to some extent assaults and headquarters do help and make up for it, however the rewards on them do not. Incursions need a good fixing and iteration that could make it one of the greatest places to simulate PvP in order to train pilots/test fittings and tactics while earning good ISK.
Regardless of my actions I never misused my powers or access in the incursion community to disrupt or hurt it. Whatever was done with Krissada is to be seperated from the actions with Ammzi. I do wish to return to the incursion community and regain the responsibilities I had earlier.
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Fixing incursions can be done and the plan is already laid out for CCP. Follow up and do what you said you would in the CSM minutes. Make the incursion constellation dangerous like the Live Event once where a whole system was shutdown by Sansha. Put rats on gates/stations and make them respawn. Make it realistic! Make it a real battlefield and let the difficulty scale with the system classes. Make spawns random and use different e-war, smartbombs, bombs. Make it like real PvP!
I am excited to see what CCP has in store for us, but I sincerely do not hope that they will delay this for several months. I hope that CCP would fix incursions in steps. First balance out the payouts, a simple change in the reward code, then iterate on our beloved feature.
Thanks for tuning in, o7.
TL;DR: There is none. quote CCP Spitfire
"Hello Im Blue,"
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Krissada
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
135
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Posted - 2012.01.26 18:51:00 -
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Confirmed ^.
Please do ask if my boyfriend up there forgot to mention something. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1167
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Posted - 2012.01.26 19:00:00 -
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No. I am Krissada.
Or Spartacus.
Quote:Make the incursion constellation dangerous like the Live Event once where a whole system was shutdown by Sansha. Put rats on gates/stations and make them respawn. Make it realistic! Make it a real battlefield and let the difficulty scale with the system classes. Make spawns random and use different e-war, smartbombs, bombs. Make it like real PvP!
I GÖÑ you and therefore will prefer to kiss Krissada because that's the better looking one. Seriously hope such ideas would be implemented as they are absolutely epic and would put the fire back into the content. |
Maximille Biagge
The Eden Trading International Corporation Curatores Veritatis Alliance
13
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Posted - 2012.01.26 19:03:00 -
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NO!
I'm the real Krissada. |
gfldex
299
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Posted - 2012.01.26 19:05:00 -
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You have ruined my CONCORD LP backbone. *beep*ing griefer! The game has a tutorial that gives you a mining laser and a railgun and tells you to go shoot rocks and red crosses. It teaches you nothing else. It's been that way for 8 years, so are you really surprised that there are people who aren't aware that this is a pvp game? --Jafit McJafitson |
Frank Vinci
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.01.26 19:09:00 -
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I AM THE REAL SPARTACUS!!! |
RiskyFrisky
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2012.01.26 19:14:00 -
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NO I'M KRISSADA! |
Deen Wispa
Screaming War Eagles Incorporated
100
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Posted - 2012.01.26 19:15:00 -
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No. I'm the real Cascada ! . |
Dirk Magnum
Sarz'na Khumatari Ushra'Khan
188
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Posted - 2012.01.26 19:19:00 -
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I'm Kai86 I mean Krostata. For some ISK I'll be whoever you want. I'll even run incursions. "For example, if you are thinking about selling a Republic Fleet Firetail as a regular Firetail, be sure that the market volume is high on regular Firetails and that there are plenty of buy/sell contracts for Republic Fleet Firetails. [...] The players most interested in Republic Fleet Firetails are going to be players flying regular ones."-á -- PB |
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Feligast
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1000
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Posted - 2012.01.26 19:30:00 -
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I am the real Krakatoa. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
1167
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Posted - 2012.01.26 19:30:00 -
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So my dumb play on Spartacus has derailed the thread proving my ******* status.
Time to stop posting for a while. |
EnslaverOfMinmatar
Viziam Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2012.01.26 19:32:00 -
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I am Endeavor Starfleet.
OH ****!!
/wrists Every EVE player must read this http://www.eveonline.com/background/potw/default.asp?cid=29-01-07 or uninstall and DIAF |
Karl Planck
Heretic University Heretic Nation
128
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Posted - 2012.01.26 19:45:00 -
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Interesting read. I love when this kind of thought goes behind an engagement. Just one of the reasons why eve is so . |
Grimpak
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
370
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Posted - 2012.01.26 19:46:00 -
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NAY, THOU! [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |
FloppieTheBanjoClown
hotpot inc
791
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Posted - 2012.01.26 20:10:00 -
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I had no idea you had plans to come out on this. I could have made a killing running a gambling pool
Anyway, welcome to the limelight. |
Shukuzen Kiraa
47-Ronin
44
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Posted - 2012.01.26 20:12:00 -
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Ammzi wrote:
Who am I and why should anyone care?
You're nobody, and nobody cares.
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G0hme
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
9
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Posted - 2012.01.26 20:15:00 -
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Shukuzen Kiraa wrote:Ammzi wrote:
Who am I and why should anyone care?
You're nobody, and nobody cares.
Awwww did big bad Ammzi ruin your Incursion Wallet Fattening? Poor bro, umad? |
Zubrette
Reverse Safari Venture Industries
6
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Posted - 2012.01.26 20:17:00 -
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NO THIS IS PATRICK.
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FloppieTheBanjoClown
hotpot inc
791
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Posted - 2012.01.26 20:18:00 -
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Shukuzen Kiraa wrote:No, pay atttention to ME! Okay, but just this once.
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Drake Draconis
Nexus Advanced Technologies Fidelas Constans
284
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Posted - 2012.01.26 20:26:00 -
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"Be Gone fat and greasy citizen" |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
mUfFiN fAcToRy Psychotic Tendencies.
893
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Posted - 2012.01.26 20:41:00 -
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Krissada, do you advocate the use of about 40 suicide jamming blackbirds that fail horribly? |
Hera Chawla
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2012.01.26 21:02:00 -
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I can also confirm that Ammzi is Krissada. Also, it was fun while it lasted guys. |
Shukuzen Kiraa
47-Ronin
44
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Posted - 2012.01.26 21:09:00 -
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G0hme wrote:Shukuzen Kiraa wrote:Ammzi wrote:
Who am I and why should anyone care?
You're nobody, and nobody cares. Awwww did big bad Ammzi ruin your Incursion Wallet Fattening? Poor bro, umad?
No, I don't do incursions :) I just don't care who he is. |
Krissada
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
135
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Posted - 2012.01.26 21:22:00 -
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Shukuzen Kiraa wrote:G0hme wrote:Shukuzen Kiraa wrote:Ammzi wrote:
Who am I and why should anyone care?
You're nobody, and nobody cares. Awwww did big bad Ammzi ruin your Incursion Wallet Fattening? Poor bro, umad? No, I don't do incursions :) I just don't care who he is.
Stop hurting my feelings |
Tian Nu
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
36
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Posted - 2012.01.26 21:36:00 -
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meh Father O'Malley about Darius III begging for whelp: GÇ£Hows that working out for ya ? I make it 02:21 and all I see is you begging Riverini to get numbers and trying to recruit from the incursion public channel.GÇ¥ |
Psychotic Monk
The Skunkworks Petition Blizzard
87
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Posted - 2012.01.26 22:30:00 -
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And believe me, it took *alot* of convincing to get Skunks on board when we found out Krissada=Ammzi.
But, as much as we've slung mud at each other in the past, in this instance our goals were the same, even if we came to that spot from wildly different places.
Luckily for us, we've had people step up and learn the mothership site now, so if Ammzi decides his goals are accomplished we still have the FCs we need to carry on.
As much as I love holding a grudge, hat's off to you, Amm, and a pleasure working with you so far. I hope it continues. |
Daisai
Taurus Quantum Technologies Taurus Quantum Dynamics
10
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Posted - 2012.01.26 22:30:00 -
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Asking for forgiveness now are you? And making up some bullshit to try pursuade people to forgive you.
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Substantia Nigra
NFI industrial Revival Of The Talocan Empire
452
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Posted - 2012.01.26 22:57:00 -
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Excellent!
Whatever I might think of your justifications / reasoning I ***love*** that you saw a problem, stood up, engaged a diverse bunch of ppl, organised some fairly complex group efforts, did some stuff that impacted a lot of eve-players, and thereby got your issue noticed. I tip my hat to you, whoever you are.
The fact that this was possible, and that you did it, is a reflection of what I like about this game.
I hope the final results are pleasing for you.
We can build and sell pretty much every ship. Check my bio for details. Our pirate epic arc completion packages really are very good: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=12973&find=unread |
Large Collidable Object
morons.
1037
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Posted - 2012.01.26 23:57:00 -
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I would have preferred to have the interdiction last until the exploit is fixed, but thanks for bringing the problem to a wider audiences attention. morons- sting like a butterfly and-ápost like a bee. |
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