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Obtuse Sai'dar Gallente InQuest Ascension R i s e	Posted - 2007.10.29 23:02:00 - [1] Ok I won't speak directly on the fact that the Eos is losing the two turret slots and the ability to field heavy drones, as there are already many of those threads out there....at least -combat- heavy drones... It does make sense to force the Eos more into it's 'Fleet Command' role..fine. But does it make sense that it won't be able to field Heavy Logistics/Utility drones? Fine they needed to modify the dps the ship can do. Forcing some more 'utility' slots on the ship and knocking out it's heavy -combat- drones. Totally understandable. But if it is really going to be up to snub in its role as a command ship wouldn't letting it use the heavy logistics/utility drones make sense? I understand that in most major fleet situations where in mere seconds a ship is melted, that repair drones of any size are not utilized often. But for smaller engagements (which is obviously the direction our fair EvE is attempted to head) and for smaller packs the extra size of the heavy logistics and utility drones could really change the outcome of an engagement. It would at least give more options, they may not even be used, but like I just said 'options'.
Tral Kul	Posted - 2007.10.30 00:18:00 - [2] I am a big fan of the idea of different 'types' of drones requiring slightly different bandwidth. I especially think that logistics should take 5-10 (roughly) less, or maybe give the logsitcs drones a role bonus so that logistics line ships (right now fleet command and logistics) require less bandwidth per drone. I think it would encourage variety and be a nudge in using ships as intended (you could even extend this idea to other drone types and ship types). I think that if CCP is going to implement bandwidth then make the stat mean something more then just the new verison of drone space limiting.
Vim Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.10.30 00:23:00 - [3] Was thinking about something similar but you typed yours slightly different out very good. Great idea this one =) /* Whats a guy got to do to get a smile off around here */
Naomi Wildfire Amarr Stardust Heavy Industries Majesta Empire	Posted - 2007.10.30 08:19:00 - [4] Originally by: Tral Kul I am a big fan of the idea of different 'types' of drones requiring slightly different bandwidth. I especially think that logistics should take 5-10 (roughly) less, or maybe give the logsitcs drones a role bonus so that logistics line ships (right now fleet command and logistics) require less bandwidth per drone. I think it would encourage variety and be a nudge in using ships as intended (you could even extend this idea to other drone types and ship types). I think that if CCP is going to implement bandwidth then make the stat mean something more then just the new verison of drone space limiting. Ok, so if a Logistic Drone has a bandwidth of 20 and the bandwidth of the ship is 100 you can deploy 5 of it, that would be ok.
Arkanjuca Caldari The Undertakers Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.10.30 08:27:00 - [5] Get an oneiros... Problem is not the logistics capabilities, problem is the warfare link. This nerf is forcing gallente to face their race warfare link, and ppl dont like it, so they try to make the eos something else, now you want it to do what a logistic domi do. Face your warfare link, focus debate on it. -- "Tackling you in the system next door"
NoNah Unseen University	Posted - 2007.10.30 08:27:00 - [6] Bandwidthless light and medium drones \o/ Anyway, it IS a good idea, and theres a lengthy thread about the eos and letting it use logistics drones and it's current bonus about somewhere. Postcount: 353463 [02:40:22] <elmickers> if you're caldari in a fleet fight, bring a corp
Lyria Skydancer Amarr Uninvited Guests	Posted - 2007.10.30 08:39:00 - [7] Originally by: Arkanjuca Get an oneiros... Problem is not the logistics capabilities, problem is the warfare link. This nerf is forcing gallente to face their race warfare link, and ppl dont like it, so they try to make the eos something else, now you want it to do what a logistic domi do. Face your warfare link, focus debate on it. QFT. The only thing you should complain about is the warfare link, but on the other hand why should you get compensated for a sub-par racial when other races in other situations arent either.
Arshes Nei Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.10.30 09:01:00 - [8] Originally by: Lyria Skydancer Originally by: Arkanjuca Get an oneiros... Problem is not the logistics capabilities, problem is the warfare link. This nerf is forcing gallente to face their race warfare link, and ppl dont like it, so they try to make the eos something else, now you want it to do what a logistic domi do. Face your warfare link, focus debate on it. QFT. The only thing you should complain about is the warfare link, but on the other hand why should you get compensated for a sub-par racial when other races in other situations arent either. I cant agree with this. Some race is bound to be the worst, if you want all aspects of gangboni covered that is. I fully agree the eos is subpar, but then again, there are always subpar ships. In the end if you totally cant live with the racial gang boni of gallente, you trained for the wrong field command. There is really no way around that. If your gang needs the other links, just fit them and deal with the miniscule % you boost less than a dedicated fieldcommand with the right boni. Its not like the CS boni to warfare links do much anyway. If you train for a ship, based on its performance in anything but its primary role, you will get disappointed sooner or later. The only thing that really annoys me about this is that ccp took so long to decide wether to nerf the eos or not, they give players a false sense of security. If this nerf had hit one or two weeks after the release of the eos nobody had a right to complain, as it is i think its a bad move on ccps part(talking about the timeframe here).
Dr Fighter	Posted - 2007.10.30 10:26:00 - [9] hmmmm maybe reduce logistic and EW drones bandwidth, that would open alot of doors for cunning setups for more than just the EOS
Tibilo	Posted - 2007.10.30 11:41:00 - [10] an idea could be to change its drone bay bonus for a bonus to electronic warfare drones. Although I never got why the Gallente got the electronic warfare links it would fit with its use in specialized gangs as ew support. where the other field commands have speed and tanking, the eos should have better ew of its own? That or a change to the links it gets a bonus for
Kagura Nikon Minmatar MASS HOMICIDE Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.10.30 13:25:00 - [11] Peopel talk like they NEEDEd to use their own race warfare link. The bonus is pitifull. The main CS bonus si teh capability of usign 3, not hte small bonus to a specific one. Use the Warfare link you want and ignore the damm bonus. If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
Haniblecter Teg F.R.E.E. Explorer Atrum Tempestas Foedus	Posted - 2007.10.30 13:38:00 - [12] I use three different gang mods on my Eos: EW strengh, SHield resist, and Armor resist with a mindlink. But I'd still like it if they left it a drone ship and took off more turrets. There's woefully little drone ships in the game, taking another away cant be a good thing. ----------------- Friends Forever Kill. BoB. Dead.
Laboratus Gallente BGG League of Abnormal Gentlemen	Posted - 2007.10.30 13:47:00 - [13] If they just changed the drone bay size bonus to a 19%/lvl cap use reduction for gang assist mods, it would do ok as a generalist with EW gang mods as a specialty. The current plan is just meh ___ P.S. Post with your main. Mind control and tin hats
Obtuse Sai'dar Gallente InQuest Ascension R i s e	Posted - 2007.10.31 15:41:00 - [14] Originally by: Tral Kul I am a big fan of the idea of different 'types' of drones requiring slightly different bandwidth. I especially think that logistics should take 5-10 (roughly) less, or maybe give the logsitcs drones a role bonus so that logistics line ships (right now fleet command and logistics) require less bandwidth per drone. I think it would encourage variety and be a nudge in using ships as intended (you could even extend this idea to other drone types and ship types). I think that if CCP is going to implement bandwidth then make the stat mean something more then just the new verison of drone space limiting. Word. I am not sure if that is the perfect way to fix it, but sounds pretty right on the money to me!

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