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Fehnrail
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.11.02 21:19:00 -
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Edited by: Fehnrail on 02/11/2007 21:20:17 In light of recent dictor nerfs on test, I feel it's appropriate to assume that we will see more random, wacky nerfs in the future coming that no one will ever see.
Or, well, almost no one. Will you be the one to predict an absolutely outrageous and unpredictable nerf before it happens? Now is your chance.
So what do you think is next? Amarr Battleships, using too little cap? Them damn missile boats doing too many fractions of damage to anything going insanely fast? Gallente blasters having way too much optimal range? Switching falloff bonuses on all Minmatar ships to 5% cap/level? Maybe BCs fielding too much tank-- no, wait, we've been over that one already.
Remember, it's gonna be something wild. Come on and see if you can predict it.
...I am a part of all that I have met, Yet all experience is an arch wherethro' Shines that untravell'd world, whose margin fades For ever and for ever as I move... |
Noisrevbus
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Posted - 2007.11.02 21:29:00 -
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HAC speed or nano bonuses, either way they mix into one: Nano-HACs.
That's the logical change anyway if the Dictor changes go through, seeing all HAC's getting Caldari-speed. If there are issues with anything speed fitted, it's definately the tech two cruisers, and i presume that is where the bat will clip the ball the hardest.
That would be a change i would both like and dislike at the same time. Like, because nano-HACs are out of line, but also dislike to some part as HACs still suffer somewhat from high expenses in other roles (ie., a sniper BS being preferred by many over a HAC, not due to how the ships perform but due to equal costs but vast differences in insurance return). For all it's worth, the prices are somewhat warranted when the risk is so low. I guess a fair trade would be nerfing them but raising their insurance payout somehow so they become an alternative to Battleships then ;).
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Dubious Drewski
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Posted - 2007.11.02 21:31:00 -
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The damned Drake. I can't wait.
Originally by: Slayton Ford a Drake is normally primaried last
And that's why I love that homely boat! |
Fehnrail
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.11.02 21:35:00 -
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Hey, these things almost make sense, people. It ain't gonna work that way.
My projection: they'll nerf cap recharge or actual cap on all Amarr boats.
...I am a part of all that I have met, Yet all experience is an arch wherethro' Shines that untravell'd world, whose margin fades For ever and for ever as I move... |
Dubious Drewski
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Posted - 2007.11.02 21:38:00 -
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Originally by: Fehnrail My projection: they'll nerf cap recharge or actual cap on all Amarr boats.
I chuckled out loud just now.
Originally by: Slayton Ford a Drake is normally primaried last
And that's why I love that homely boat! |
ReePeR McAllem
The Carebear Stare
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Posted - 2007.11.02 21:42:00 -
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Edited by: ReePeR McAllem on 02/11/2007 21:43:02 Sacrilege imo, everybody says how great and uber it is on the forums. People say its too good hax cap omg!
Lol don't bother me as I will never train missiles, narf away
Edit. Please lets not use the N word, it scares me
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Danjira Ryuujin
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.11.02 21:43:00 -
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Originally by: Fehnrail Edited by: Fehnrail on 02/11/2007 21:35:37 Hey, these things almost make sense, people. It ain't gonna work that way.
CCP does not think. They nerf.
My projection: they'll nerf cap recharge or actual cap on all Amarr boats.
Amarr clearly has to many mid slots and not enough high slots. Bye bye mids, hello additional non turret highs!
Amarr - Annoying the Eve Community since 2005 |
SATAN
BURN EDEN
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Posted - 2007.11.02 21:43:00 -
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It should be speed.
If all the ships are slowed way down, than perhaps all these nerfs will be worth while. But at this point it seems all of CCP's employees are nanofags living out their eve life in a vega doing 10k a sec.
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Fehnrail
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.11.02 21:47:00 -
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Edited by: Fehnrail on 02/11/2007 21:51:38 Edited by: Fehnrail on 02/11/2007 21:50:53 Wow, so it seems like we almost have a flat-out consensus that the next you-know-what is going to happen to Amarr.
Anyone got any different ideas? Is there anything more illogical out there than n-wording the most n-worded race out there to begin with?
Remember, if you actually get it right, you'll get to beat your chest and shout manly things while linking this thread and yelling I TOLD YOU SO, I TOLD YOU SO, I SO CALLED IT.
Edit: and let's not limit ourselves to ships. It can be modules, too. Maybe they'll you-know-what Cap Rechargers. Or give Web a 2k optimal. Introduce a possibility of a warp scram to malfunction and instapod you on the spot. That would show those damn pirates real quick. How about them Multifreq ECMs still actually having a chance to jam something when fitted on an ECM ship? They might just decide to you-know-what them as well.
...I am a part of all that I have met, Yet all experience is an arch wherethro' Shines that untravell'd world, whose margin fades For ever and for ever as I move... |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.11.02 21:54:00 -
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Stacking penality on shield/cap recharge ? _
1|2|3 |
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dAn melax
Beyond Divinity Inc Terra Incognita.
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Posted - 2007.11.02 21:59:00 -
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After changing torps ravens will be used more and more in pvp that's why I think shield tank will be nerfed next (if they can, why not!? j/k). Play Hard. Go Pro. |
Laboratus
Gallente BGG League of Abnormal Gentlemen
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Posted - 2007.11.02 22:01:00 -
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Next to go should be MWD and webs. 550% and -90% bonuses are too game braking. Maybe max 350% and -70% with webs divided to size categories with tracking, sig radius etc... ___ P.S. Post with your main. Mind control and tin hats |
Fehnrail
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.11.02 22:08:00 -
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I brake for no game.
But no, that makes too much sense. It will never happen.
...I am a part of all that I have met, Yet all experience is an arch wherethro' Shines that untravell'd world, whose margin fades For ever and for ever as I move... |
Tessikhet
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Posted - 2007.11.02 22:10:00 -
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My guesses:
Nerfing propulsion jamming. Examples:
- A form of stacking penalty for having a single target both scrammed and webbed.
- A script is introduced that lets users decide whether a WCS will hurt their lock time or their lock range. Close-range ships become popular as everyone shifts the entire penalty to their lock range.
- Warp scrambling goes to percentage based. E.g., one 2pt scram vs one WCS, the scrammed target has a 50% chance to enter warp instead of a 0% chance. A stacking penalty is introduced for having multiple scrams on a single target.
- When you web someone, instead of that reducing their top speed to a small % of their max, it reduces their top speed to a % of your max. So for example if a vaga or interceptor webs someone while going at top speed, there is little effect. Slow ships become the best webbers.
- Anything that breaks up the holy trinity of must-have PVP mods: mwd, web, scram. So, anything that causes any of those mods to interfere with the other two (some things I listed above are examples).
Crazy enough?
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Fehnrail
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.11.02 22:13:00 -
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Now you are on to something here.
Rev3: MWD, Web, Scram. Pick two.
...I am a part of all that I have met, Yet all experience is an arch wherethro' Shines that untravell'd world, whose margin fades For ever and for ever as I move... |
Alowishus
Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.02 22:31:00 -
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I hope forum whiners are nerfed next.
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Deschenus Maximus
Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.11.02 22:35:00 -
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Amarr.
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Karentaki
Gallente federation navy taskforce
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Posted - 2007.11.02 22:41:00 -
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Next nerf: The Amarr rookie ship!!!!! - They are clearly overpowered since they cost nothing, but you get free stuff with them worth about 10k, and they can kill 100 ISK bounty training rats!!!
Honestly though, I suspect the next nerf will be against armour tanking or hybrid turrets. Drones are dead, Sensor dampeners are severely nerfed, so tanking and guns are the only things Gallente have left. Logically in the great long cycle of EVE the best race gets nerfed to oblivion, then the new best one... etc.
[sarcasm] Maybe in a few years time Amarr will be the best PVP'ers {/sarcasm] =======================
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Incantare
Caldari Kernel of War Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.11.02 22:50:00 -
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Caracal, Moa, Omen and Maller.
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Rowl Arak
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.11.02 23:16:00 -
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Christ almighty do you people really believe that whats on the test servers are the FINAL WORD?
Use your melon.
The forums have become the tabloids recently. Every time some random players alt puts up some half ass post spouting out numbers that they saw on the test server, ya better look out, 'cause here comes a stampede of widespread panic and scatter-brained irrational bandwagon bull****.
How is CCP going to get any effective feedback when all we do is ***** and moan about things we ASSUME and SUSPECT to be permanent and final changes, when there is no SHRED of evidence as to permanency. What a waste of time.
*Deep breath*. My point is: Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. In all fairness, I do understand some of people's concerns about particular issues, but thats what they should be: concerns. Not a fit of riotous protest. Relax brethren.
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Gor Kraon
Minmatar Red Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.02 23:22:00 -
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Bellicose will get nerfed. Not sure how yet, but i'm sure its way too powerful. I mean have you ever seen one die in combat? Yeah its that good.
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PDJames
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Posted - 2007.11.02 23:43:00 -
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I have a feeling vagabonds will be nerfed next because they're too fast despite their being extremely vulnerable to all recons and EAS, but more importantly because I am training for them now.
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DeadDuck
Amarr Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.02 23:47:00 -
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A velocity nerf all across the board in the modules with direct/inderect impact on that area
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Ezekiel Sulastin
Gallente Eve University
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Posted - 2007.11.02 23:51:00 -
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I agree with the above.
Expect all blasters to have their damage reduced by 25% or so in order to bring Gallente gankship DPS in line with the other races.
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bulabuba
Gallente Klima Galactic
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Posted - 2007.11.02 23:52:00 -
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Skill level 5 will be nerfed next. Since there will be absolutely no reason to invest that much time in something that might not even be what you started training for by the time you get there, they'll just take it out of the game altogether. People will start capping out at 40m skillpoints, and be able to (sort of) do everything in the game. -----------------------------------------------
Are GoonSwarm ever going to be allowed to build up in any way in 0.0 space again? No.
-DB Preacher[BoB] |
Benedic
The Aftermath
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Posted - 2007.11.03 00:09:00 -
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My guess: gang bonuses/warfare links will require the bonus giving ship to be ongrid.
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Vanessa Vale
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Posted - 2007.11.03 02:25:00 -
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They should remove a medium slot from the claw. Or hell just go ahead and remove two!
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Unworldly1
Gallente Clown Corp
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Posted - 2007.11.03 02:35:00 -
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Clearly the next you-know-what will be Amarr:
Any ship that fits lasers will have a random chance to explode its capacitor, which will result in an irreversible self-destruct countdown. Oh, and they won't even have to FIRE the lasers, nothing so complex. Fitting them is enough.
At the same time, they'll claim that the Minmatar's speed is preventing them being versatile, and thus, their speed will be nerfed. No minmatar ship will fly more than 50m/s. This will make them more reliant on .... uhh... Target painters. Yeah. don't ask me how that works - ask CCP. * * * "In the beginning, the universe was created. This has made a lot of people unhappy and has been widely regarded as a bad move." -- Douglas Adams, [i] |
Tashiell Gao
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.11.03 02:36:00 -
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Originally by: Rowl Arak
Use your melon.
huh...?
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DubanFP
Caldari Four Rings Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2007.11.03 02:38:00 -
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What's the next thing to get nerfed? Can i vote for this thread? ___________
Desolacer> Who the heck gives YOU the right to ruin it for others buy blowing them up.
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