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Melicien Tetro
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.11.07 10:30:00 -
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I'm just reactivating, and I'm pretty heavily invested in my drones, specifically my t2 ogres. I can't seem to get on to sisi right now, so if anybody could give me some bandwidth numbers for these ships, if they remember, that'd be super. Dominix, Eos, Myrmidon, Ishtar, Ishkur.
I'm thinking the Myrmidon was really in need of that nerf, but if the Eos and Ishtar got hit too, I'm not sure how I'll feel.
Thanks in advance. :D
I tried to fight a shark with a pistol underwater once, and I'll be damned if he didn't laugh at me and eat me. Sharks need a ******* nerf. True story.
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TimMc
Skiddies of Doom
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Posted - 2007.11.07 10:38:00 -
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Drone bandwidth mbit = the cargo bay m3 size.
Dominix - 125mbit Eos - 75mbit Myrmidon - 75mbit Ishtar - 125mbit Ishkur - 25mbit
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Murasaki Midori
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Posted - 2007.11.07 10:54:00 -
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i'm curious about the bandwidth on the following ships:
raven typhoon hyperion abaddon arbitator curse pilgrim arazu lachesis
thx
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Murasaki Midori
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Posted - 2007.11.08 03:57:00 -
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can someone plz answer my question
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SasRipper
DIE WITH HONOUR
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Posted - 2007.11.08 04:23:00 -
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raven 75mbit typhoon 125mbit hyperion 100mbit abaddon 75mbit arbitator 50mbit curse 50mbit pilgrim 50mbit arazu 40mbit lachesis 40mbit
aka no change just a gall nerf
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Si'dun Took
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Posted - 2007.11.08 09:56:00 -
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They need to reduce the turret slots on the drone ships, not the drone usage. They already have a bandwidth limiter. we call it the drone skill.
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Odium47
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Posted - 2007.11.08 13:15:00 -
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I really wonder if this is a nerf or a boost...Hm!
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Formulka
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Posted - 2007.11.08 14:00:00 -
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Originally by: SasRipper raven 75mbit typhoon 125mbit hyperion 100mbit abaddon 75mbit arbitator 50mbit curse 50mbit pilgrim 50mbit arazu 40mbit lachesis 40mbit
aka no change just a gall nerf
arbitrator/pilgrim/curse ... 75m3->50m3 no change?
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TheEndofTheWorld
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Posted - 2007.11.08 15:29:00 -
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Originally by: Formulka
Originally by: SasRipper raven 75mbit typhoon 125mbit hyperion 100mbit abaddon 75mbit arbitator 50mbit curse 50mbit pilgrim 50mbit arazu 40mbit lachesis 40mbit
aka no change just a gall nerf
arbitrator/pilgrim/curse ... 75m3->50m3 no change?
But they can hold 150m3 of drones in bay now
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Brodde Dim
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Posted - 2007.11.08 15:37:00 -
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Originally by: Odium47 I really wonder if this is a nerf or a boost...Hm!
I cant believe it is that hard. If the change makes you do less damage, its a nerf, if it makes you do more damage, its a buff. So, reducing the number of drones fielded is a nerf.
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Crystal Peril
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Posted - 2007.11.08 18:23:00 -
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Personally, I consider this as a drone buff certainly for the Arbitrator anyway. I only use medium drones anyway and the ability to carry 10 Medium drones and then a whole set of ECM drones to boot is going to help me considerably.
However, I agree that Gallente drone boats need their turret bonuses removed and a couple of turret hardpoints removed.
They should then recieve a Drone Bandwidth bonus. This means that the Gallente drone boats lose a lot of turret capability but still retain their drone effectiveness.
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Borasao
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Posted - 2007.11.08 18:30:00 -
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Originally by: Brodde Dim
Originally by: Odium47 I really wonder if this is a nerf or a boost...Hm!
I cant believe it is that hard. If the change makes you do less damage, its a nerf, if it makes you do more damage, its a buff. So, reducing the number of drones fielded is a nerf.
Only if the only way you can conceive of measuring something is by "how much damage it does".
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Polly Prissypantz
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Posted - 2007.11.14 11:10:00 -
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Edited by: Polly Prissypantz on 14/11/2007 11:10:39
Originally by: Borasao
Originally by: Brodde Dim
Originally by: Odium47 I really wonder if this is a nerf or a boost...Hm!
I cant believe it is that hard. If the change makes you do less damage, its a nerf, if it makes you do more damage, its a buff. So, reducing the number of drones fielded is a nerf.
Only if the only way you can conceive of measuring something is by "how much damage it does".
Considering we're talking about drones, which for the most part, are there to deal damage, I think it's safe to say that reducing the number/size of drones that can be launched, thus reducing the damage you'll deal with drones, does indeed constitute a nerf to those ships effected by it.
Sure, if you're always at the armor melting end of a swarm of drones, then you may view it as a buff, but seriously... I thought it was my job to be pedantic.
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Serotta Ortot
Equilibrium Inc. FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2007.11.14 12:01:00 -
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Has anyone checked to see if the Hulk's drone bay got hit? Considdering drones are it's only defence
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Genocya Zolan
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Posted - 2007.11.14 12:42:00 -
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I was surprised to see that the Eos only has a 75 bandwidth. I really thought it would have been 125, is it certain?
Genocya
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Zhaine
B e l l u m
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Posted - 2007.11.14 14:59:00 -
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The m3 of drones that can be launched on the Amarr Recons has been reduced but I'd consider it a slight boost in most circumstances due to the extra space.
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Romulan Dominiae
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Posted - 2007.11.14 15:03:00 -
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Originally by: Formulka
Originally by: SasRipper raven 75mbit typhoon 125mbit hyperion 100mbit abaddon 75mbit arbitator 50mbit curse 50mbit pilgrim 50mbit arazu 40mbit lachesis 40mbit
aka no change just a gall nerf
arbitrator/pilgrim/curse ... 75m3->50m3 no change?
omg
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Morrow Disca
Macrocosm Advanced Industries
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Posted - 2007.11.14 16:07:00 -
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There is a 'focus fire' option for drones on Sisi, as well as 'passive' and 'aggressive' settings. These interest me much more than drone bandwidth yet nobody seems to be mentioning it. Funny considering the constant moaning about drone AI that goes on.
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Zxenis
Caldari Devious - Special Forces Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.11.14 22:46:00 -
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Originally by: Serotta Ortot Has anyone checked to see if the Hulk's drone bay got hit? Considdering drones are it's only defence
I'm hoping it still allows us to carry 5 medium drones as well as additional drone bay space for mining drones.
If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared. Niccolo Machiavelli (1469 - 1527) |
Itose zanoske
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Posted - 2007.11.15 01:34:00 -
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So how do you get onto sisi ?
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Horchan
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.11.15 01:41:00 -
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Originally by: Itose zanoske So how do you get onto sisi ?
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=46836 ---
Originally by: VJ Maverick Jita is closed on Sundays. It's a holy day.
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Cha Jeng
Zenith of Things
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Posted - 2007.11.15 02:52:00 -
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If someone complains about the arbitrator line getting a 150 m3 drone bay they are smoking something. I will bet good money if you did a 1v1 old version vs new, the new one would win every time if everything else is even.
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Xiong Yoshi
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Posted - 2007.11.15 04:59:00 -
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Vexor Navy Issue bandwidth?
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Nixxxs
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Posted - 2007.11.15 06:09:00 -
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Edited by: Nixxxs on 15/11/2007 06:10:39 I firmly stand behind a few ideas
#1 how long has it been the way it is why now why all of sudden its time to swing the nerf bat? #2 how often do you hear a losing player say, ôthat was fair and good fightö I hear mostly nerf thatÆs too powerful and like statements nobody admits incompetence or in experience its always so horrible unfair the devs need to nerf that skill yesterday..
I honestly donÆt like the idea of a crap load of changes the game is already 3+ years old the ships and skills they are changing have been around at least 2 years.
I will admit I am an old rock, I think things that have been in the game shouldnÆt be changed on a whim or the complaints of others unwilling to admit a fair defeat.
To keep a player base you will need to stop changing so much and add new stuff. If drones are that bad make anti done skills but donÆt lessen the work and time put forth by someone to learn T2 heavy drones
Also some food for thought if the game was horribly balanced you wouldnÆt have 30k ish players at peak they would quit to play a fair game. Obviously youÆre doing something right but that might be changing if we continue to swing that nerf bat in random directions.
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Talla Hurzin
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Posted - 2007.11.15 06:16:00 -
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Edited by: Talla Hurzin on 15/11/2007 06:16:31
Originally by: Cha Jeng If someone complains about the arbitrator line getting a 150 m3 drone bay they are smoking something. I will bet good money if you did a 1v1 old version vs new, the new one would win every time if everything else is even.
With the bandwidth being nerfed from effectively 75mbit to just 50, the Arbitrator line will no longer be able to use 3x Sentry drones, or 2x heavy 2x medium and 1x light drone for maximum damage. It effectively gets nerfed from 315 DPS to 238 DPS, if it relies solely on drones (and as a long time arbi pilot I can tell you that it does).
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Xiong Yoshi
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Posted - 2007.11.15 22:15:00 -
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Originally by: Xiong Yoshi Vexor Navy Issue bandwidth?
I'll try again. Anyone have the answer?
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