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Modrak Vseth
Veto. Academy
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.11.07 17:51:00 -
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It already is difficult to get a mission runner. You have to be rediculously close to have even a fair chance of getting a hit on them in deadspace (especially if they're not using drones). If the pirate gang doesn't have a prober with them then you're completely safe from them anyway. Then, if they DO get into your mission they have to hope they can burn to you fast enough to get a point or that you're close to the entry gate because they can't use MWDs in the deadspace.
If these advantages aren't enough for you, then you really need to run your missions in highsec. People will still be able to probe you out and steal your objective, but at least they won't be able to kill you...
 Originally by: Buyerr
although in eve it seems the gm's/devs or whoever sets the rules have their heads so far up their asses that they do not realize that attitude comes with consequence, and i really hope that these people do not have children and if they have that they do actually attend to them with another approach then what they are bringing to eve, or we will just have one more person in the world that is a wasted of air and which we would have been better of without.
Good thing they're not raising us then. I know I treat my customers at work the same way I treat my kids. 
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Modrak Vseth
Veto. Academy
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.11.07 18:22:00 -
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Originally by: Tegashi
Originally by: Modrak Vseth
Originally by: Tegashi
This doesn't qualify as 'PvP' in my view, only making ISK since it's such a one-sided engagement.
Fixed that for ya. Sometimes attacking a rich mission runner is about more then the PvP.
There is always someone looknig for the easy score rather then grinding missions or rats the hard way. Please.
Grinding missions and rats the hard way?  Are you doing level 4s in a Rifter or something?
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Modrak Vseth
Veto. Academy
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.11.07 19:04:00 -
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Originally by: Xaen
Originally by: Asestorian
Salvage doesn't belong to anyone, so it cannot be stolen 
Weird, the wrecks have my corp tag on them. Only I can tractor them. Anyone else blowing them up will get a visit from CONCORD in highsec....
That's because the can INSIDE the wreckage belongs to you, not the wreckage itself. That's for a totally different topic though...
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Modrak Vseth
Veto. Academy
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.11.08 16:33:00 -
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Originally by: OneSock
Oh and I suppose it also makes perfect sense that Concord provide consequences in 0.5 but sod all in 0.4. It's just a designation given by CCP as a demarkation but makes no sense. Even the difference in response between 1.0 and 0.5 sec space is very little other than 20 seconds response time.
Just like the arbitray lines between countries setup by their governments keep their respective armies from crossing those arbitray lines.
Originally by: OneSock
This is the thing, pirates whine because low sec is dead and they have nothing to shoot, then they whine about any proposal to encourage people to move into low sec. Genius. 
Low sec mission runners can only be caught in two places: the gate or in their mission. When low sec mission runners ask that they be invulnerable in their mission, it reduces that to gates only. This of course would reduce the number of targets available to pirates, hence the concern. It would also ENCOURAGE gatecamps. Is that something you're actually interested in?
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Modrak Vseth
Veto. Academy
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.11.08 21:50:00 -
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Originally by: Tegashi
Most often, a player who is performing a mission cannot fit his or her ship to withstand a PvP attack. Most missions require fairly specific fits in order to maximize chance of success and even then success is never for certain.
It's not "cannot fit", it's "choose not to fit". You can still run the missions in a PvP fit. It may be a bit more difficult, but not impossible.
Originally by: Tegashi
Mission runners in this case, have such a small chance of surviving the PvP gank because the odds are so far stacked against them due to the imposition of game mechanics etc. It isn't even close to a fair engagement, tactical challenge, or reasonable skirmish. It's shooting fish in barrels.
More like shooting fish in a barrel that saw you coming from a mile away and had the chance to jump out of the barrel into a pond but decided not to. You ALWAYS have AT LEAST 30 seconds to warp out of your mission when someone else jumps into the system. If you're watching your scanner you WILL KNOW if they're looking for you.
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