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Eternum Praetorian
Black Ops Trade Group
443
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Posted - 2012.01.31 21:49:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:
I think you should quote the part where I submitted evidence /statements regarding detailed claims about who does what where under the auspices of whom. ..........
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MeestaPenni
Mercantile and Stuff
161
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Posted - 2012.01.31 21:52:00 -
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Selinate wrote: "Proven wrong in that this is not a valid argument"
This is a very simple sentence meaning that a person has been proven wrong in thinking that his or her argument was valid.
An argument is defined as a reason or set of reasons given with the aim of persuading others that an action or idea is right or wrong, straight from the dictionary.
Very simple. I don't know how you're not getting this.
Tsk, tsk. I "get it" quite well, thank you. One of my favorite joys is playing with, and watching how others play with, semantics.
He has been "Proven wrong in that this is not a valid argument"
You're right, your example is a very simple sentence. But, it's not the same sentence as originally drafted. Got to make sure those verbs are doing what you want......
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? |
Zirse
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
248
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Posted - 2012.01.31 21:53:00 -
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Quote:I was going to respond to your post with something well thought out and intelligent, but then I realized that you belonged to red legion. So instead I will give you this...
BwhahahahahahaTrolololololololo!!!!!!111111111111 Look at the red legion guy talking about bots and RMT!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!
The fact that your claims weren't detailed is the reason this ****** thread is as long as it is.
You insinuated that ROL is botting central. You failed to support these allegations.
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Eternum Praetorian
Black Ops Trade Group
443
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Posted - 2012.01.31 21:56:00 -
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Zirse wrote:Quote:I was going to respond to your post with something well thought out and intelligent, but then I realized that you belonged to red legion. So instead I will give you this...
BwhahahahahahaTrolololololololo!!!!!!111111111111 Look at the red legion guy talking about bots and RMT!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!! The fact that your claims weren't detailed is the reason this ****** thread is as long as it is. You insinuated that ROL is botting central. You failed to support these allegations. /thread
And this is submitted as a "quote the part where I submitted evidence /statements regarding detailed claims about who does what where under the auspices of whom" I don't think anyone is gonna buy that. It is at best a sarcastic comment, an ad hominem formulated from slightly outdated information. Reallocate funds for Icelandic air fare to developing an integrated player input function in the UI. Then talk directly to the customers with polls to collect demographics and game preferences
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4731
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Posted - 2012.01.31 21:57:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:The queen of Pyramid quoting CANT FIND NOT ONE REFERENCE to support his false claim. You even repeated it on this page.
For someone who wants to use vague google searches as evidence, you sure seem very quick to dismiss actual references to exactly what has been said GÇö the entire exchange does not fit in a single post, but I have given you a link to the page where it starts. Unlike you, I have actually provided evidence to support my claim.
But sure, let's just look at some of your posts:
GÇ£Look at the red legion guy talking about bots and RMT!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!GÇ¥
GÇ£RubyPorto, no one can help you if your hiding under a rock out there. So no debate is possible.GÇ¥
GÇ£Meaning that if you have not seen said things for yourself by now, then you must be living under a rock out there.GÇ¥
GÇ£To you I can only say that you live in the very heart of RMT/ Botting central. I don't feel like debating this with you, because your stance is one that requires everyone else to believe that what people are saying about drone space is completely unwarranted and baseless hearsay. We simply know betterGÇ¥
GÇ£And drone regions don't have bots.GÇ¥
GǪamong other, which in context are part of you saying that you know who is doing what where and under the auspices of whom. The context does not fit here in its entirety, but I have linked it, so go ahead and actually read the source material this time. At about the point in the thread where you made that last sarcastic statement, you were also being asked to provide evidence for your claims. You immediately started avoiding this and instead tried to appeal to irrelevant generalities.
I'm sure that, just like those requests, and just like the continual correction of your attempts to alter the question and inject straw men, and just like your new attempt to reject sources for no specific reason when provided with them, you are going to ignore these facts about your posting in this thread as well. Well, the fact remains: you failed to provide any evidence to support your detailed claims about who does what where under the auspices of whom.
You, sir, are a liar. Plain and simple.
Quote:And this is submitted as a "quote the part where I submitted evidence /statements regarding detailed claims about who does what where under the auspices of whom" I don't think anyone is gonna buy that. No. It is submitted as a quote where you provide detailed claims about who does what where and under the auspices of whom, because that is what you asked for GÇö it's just the first post in which you build your claim, but that's where it begins. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Eternum Praetorian
Black Ops Trade Group
443
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Posted - 2012.01.31 22:02:00 -
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Those single sentence fragments are by no definition, me submitting evidence /statements regarding detailed claims about who does what where under the auspices of whom.
They are someone ragging on Red Alliance, and since I also repeatedly stated that bots and RMT proliferate all modern MMO's, eve included, one could then surmise that my opinion is that they could be found just about anywhere. Thus, there does not even have to be a who, what or under a auspicious who... at all.
But of course you never asked me, you just put words into my mouth and manipulated text for 5 pages strait. Gonna have to do better then that, Tippa.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4731
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Posted - 2012.01.31 22:09:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:Those single sentence fragments are by no definition, me submitting evidence /statements regarding detailed claims about who does what where under the auspices of whom. No, because (again), you never submitted any such evidence GÇö that's the whole problem.
Those single sentence fragments are you making detailed claims about who does what where and under the auspices of whom, without any evidence to support it. Read them in context GÇö the link has been provided.
Quote:They are someone ragging on Red Alliance GǪclaiming that they live in a bot central, and that they should know this, and you are insinuating that they are doing it themselves. This constitutes you making a claim about who (RA) doing what (botting) where (drone regions) under the auspices of whom (RA themselves and the RA guy in particular). Claims that you have not provided any evidence for.
Quote:I also repeatedly stated that bots and RMT proliferate all modern MMO's GǪwhich is irrelevant since it does not offer any evidence to support your detailed claims about who dos what where under the auspices of whom.
Quote:But of course you never asked me We've been asking you since page 9.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Eternum Praetorian
Black Ops Trade Group
445
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Posted - 2012.01.31 22:21:00 -
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You said I made specific claims in your endless pyramid posting, you have failed to provide evidence after multiple posts of me asking you to provide said evidence.
So I will do so for you...
Post 397 Above
Tippia wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote:Those single sentence fragments are by no definition, me submitting evidence /statements regarding detailed claims about who does what where under the auspices of whom. No, because (again), you never submitted any such evidence GÇö that's the whole problem.
Post 347
Tippia wrote:Your insistence to provide google searches and links for the readier That is not my insistence. That is your insistence, which, by the way, has nothing to do with the question at hand. My insistence is that you provide evidence to support your detailed claims about who does what where under the auspices of whom.?
So where did I submit such claims? Did I not? Or did I?
Which post shall we reference Tippa in light of your inability to provide factual evidence for your side of this debate? Reallocate funds for Icelandic air fare to developing an integrated player input function in the UI. Then talk directly to the customers with polls to collect demographics and game preferences
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Selinate
643
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Posted - 2012.01.31 22:21:00 -
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MeestaPenni wrote:Selinate wrote: "Proven wrong in that this is not a valid argument"
This is a very simple sentence meaning that a person has been proven wrong in thinking that his or her argument was valid.
An argument is defined as a reason or set of reasons given with the aim of persuading others that an action or idea is right or wrong, straight from the dictionary.
Very simple. I don't know how you're not getting this.
Tsk, tsk. I "get it" quite well, thank you. One of my favorite joys is playing with, and watching how others play with, semantics. He has been "Proven wrong in that this is not a valid argument"You're right, your example is a very simple sentence. But, it's not the same sentence as originally drafted. Got to make sure those verbs are doing what you want......
Still can't read apparently, since I quoted exactly what i originally put. |
Dowla Daupor
2
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Posted - 2012.01.31 22:25:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:
And again, my SIMPLE stance... undiluted and in plain text for all to see.
I didn't want to read all 20 pages of this thread but it looks like it contains some gold. |
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Eternum Praetorian
Black Ops Trade Group
445
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Posted - 2012.01.31 22:29:00 -
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Dowla Daupor wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote:
And again, my SIMPLE stance... undiluted and in plain text for all to see.
I didn't want to read all 20 pages of this thread but it looks like it contains some gold.
It does, Tippa is pissed because He/She is getting out maneuvered in his/her's attempts to manipulate facts and evidence. It is pretty sweet really, you should read back a few pages, that is where the face plant can be seen in slow motion. You probably wont be seeing this again very soon, so I suggest taking a screen capture for posterity. Reallocate funds for Icelandic air fare to developing an integrated player input function in the UI. Then talk directly to the customers with polls to collect demographics and game preferences
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Zirse
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
248
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Posted - 2012.01.31 22:36:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:Dowla Daupor wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote:
And again, my SIMPLE stance... undiluted and in plain text for all to see.
I didn't want to read all 20 pages of this thread but it looks like it contains some gold. It does, Tippa is pissed because He/She is getting out maneuvered in his/her's attempts to manipult facts and evidence. It is pretty sweet really, you should read back a few pages, that is where the face plant can be seen in slow motion. You probably wont be seeing this again very soon, so I suggest taking a screen capture for posterity.
lolz |
Eternum Praetorian
Black Ops Trade Group
445
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Posted - 2012.01.31 22:42:00 -
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Now I will go eat dinner.
Tippa, it has been fun. I hope I have earned your undying contempt and you now come at me with all of the forces that you can muster in game. In truth, you are probably one of the best (and most manipulative) debaters that I have ever seen. That being said, everyone loses sometimes, and that loss is one of our greatest teachers. If we do not accept that, then we do not accept the lesson either, and we can never excel further beyond where we have come to rest.
That being said... debate is for truth, debate is not for just to being right. Reallocate funds for Icelandic air fare to developing an integrated player input function in the UI. Then talk directly to the customers with polls to collect demographics and game preferences
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The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2748
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Posted - 2012.01.31 22:45:00 -
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few things in the world are as pedantic and self-obsessed as a youthful rationalist The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |
Sasha Khaine
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.01.31 22:48:00 -
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I don't see why people get so wound up about it. It isn't like CSM members are given advantages in game or anything. I don't care who gets voted as long as they make something of it and improve the game for the better. They could all be from the same corporation for all I care. As long as they show some knowledge and commitment, I'm game. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4745
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Posted - 2012.01.31 22:54:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:You said I made specific claims in your endless pyramid posting Good thing that I didn't pyramid quote (or pyramid post) anything then, but rather made two simple in-line quotes and a couple of (also inline) block quotes.
Quote:you have failed to provide evidence after multiple posts of me asking you to provide said evidence. GǪexcept that I just did.
First, you asked me to provide a quote where GÇ£[you] submitted evidence /statements regarding detailed claims about who does what where under the auspices of whom.GÇ¥. I answered this by saying that the entire problem from the get-go was that you never provided any evidence, so no such quote exists. If you are asking me to provide evidence of this, then I'm sorry to inform you that exhibiting non-existence is an impossibility since there exists nothing to exhibit.
You then asked me to provide a quote GÇ£Where [you] make the claims that you're saying that I did?GÇ¥, which I did by linking to page 8, where the quote snippets begin and where, in the context of the discussion you made detailed claims about who did what where and under the auspices of whom, without providing any evidence to back up such a claim. This was a different request than the one above.
Quote:So I will do so for you... I have to ask: exactly what is it you think you're doing for me here?
Quote:Post 347
Your insistence to provide google searches and links for the readier That is not my insistence. That is your insistence, which, by the way, has nothing to do with the question at hand. My insistence is that you provide evidence to support your detailed claims about who does what where under the auspices of whom.? Yes? What part are you having problems with? The part you highlighted is simple me reminding you of what I've been doing for the last 10+ pages: asking you to provide evidence to support your claim about who does what where and under the auspices of whom. I am not saying that you have provided any GÇö I'm insisting that you should. Note the tense in the sentence: it is not any past tense that indicates that you have actually done what I insist you do GÇö it's an infinitive (actually, an imperative, sometimes confused with a present indicative) indicating that this is something that ought to happen right now.
GÇ£I insist you go to a doctor and have that wound looked atGÇ¥ does not mean that the respondent has gone to the doctor GÇö it means s/he should go right now or the speaker will bloody well force her/him.
Quote:I hope I have earned your undying contempt I have no contempt for idiots and illiterates. Only pity. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Shazzam Vokanavom
Hedion University Amarr Empire
35
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Posted - 2012.01.31 22:57:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:Tippa, it has been fun. I hope I have earned your undying contempt
Tippia is reknowned for being Obtuse. She has an unrelenting chinese water torture technique of over disecting all posts she doesnt like to the point of boredom for others. Its just a less obvious form of trolling, but the technique is a deliberate "brick wall" attempt to demoralise the poster.
This obstinate childish behaviour however is pretty much akin to the likes of spoilt brats who shout to their fathers for the pony they have to have. But in all honesty your pretty much wasting your time pandering to what he/she beleives is her god given right to be a royal pain in the arse.
Personally, I don't think her presence on the forums or what she really contributes to EvE as healthy or in any way clever. And I have seen more effective constructuve debate from 4 year olds. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4745
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Posted - 2012.01.31 22:58:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:It does, Tippa is pissed because He/She is getting out maneuvered in his/her's attempts to manipulate facts and evidence. GǪexcept that I'm not getting pissed and I'm not attempting to manipulate any facts or evidence.
I'm trying to make you provide evidence or facts to support the claims you made early in the thread. Evidence we have been asking you to cough up for, oh, 12 pages(?) now, and which you have been completely unable to produce. Your attempts at GÇ£outmanoeuvringGÇ¥ me by injecting red herrings, straw men, by altering quotes, by altering questing while not retaining the old set of acceptable answers has not really worked since it's so very simple to see that the initial issue still exists no matter how much you try to dodge it:
You have not provided any evidence to support your detailed claims about who does what where and under the auspices of whom.
Quote:That being said, everyone loses sometimes, and that loss is one of our greatest teachers. If we do not accept that, then we do not accept the lesson either, and we can never excel further beyond where we have come to rest. Great. Does this mean you are ready to admit that you accidentally made a fallacy of division: you tried to infer specifics from very general terms, when such inference was not really supported?
Quote:That being said... debate is for truth, debate is not for just to being right. GǪand that is why I have kept asking you to either provide the evidence needed to support your claims or to retract those claims, because either way, it yields the truth. It is your constant dancing around the issue trying to Gǣbe rightGǥ that is keeping this from happening and until you stop, the truth of the matter will not come to light.
Shazzam Vokanavom wrote:Its just a less obvious form of trolling, but the technique is a deliberate "brick wall" attempt to demoralise the poster. No, the technique is a deliberate GÇ£do not accept evasions and demand answers to simple questions, especially if the answer should be obvious to the posterGÇ¥. It's not trolling GÇö it's asking the respondent to provide an actual argument and/or to state a case rather than to spew incoherent nonsense.
For instance, EP here accidentally made some claims about what's going on in nullsec, without being able to prove it. I'm asking him to either prove it or admit that he might not really have anything to back those claims up with. This is quite the opposite of trolling: it's asking him not to be a troll who just invents stuff and injects it as fact, and the supposed GÇ£brick wallGÇ¥ is just a rejection of all his attempts to evade the question (which, unfortunately, just further accumulates his trolling status). GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Shazzam Vokanavom
Hedion University Amarr Empire
35
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Posted - 2012.01.31 23:03:00 -
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Sasha Khaine wrote:I don't see why people get so wound up about it. It isn't like CSM members are given advantages in game or anything. I don't care who gets voted as long as they make something of it and improve the game for the better. They could all be from the same corporation for all I care. As long as they show some knowledge and commitment, I'm game.
Can I suggest you look up the term Meta Win then and re-examine their stance on who they represent. Simply by neglecting certian members of the playerbase they are applying a preference for their own interests. Something CCP has in their constitutional afforded significant guidance to avoid and declared they wont tolerate or afford for legitamacy.
You'll soon learn who has specific interests and don't consider the overall collective interest of the whole of EvE.
I can't emphasise this enough for newer players to research and determine for themselves who are really on the council for selfish interests and consider philanthropy as a weakness to their position. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4745
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Posted - 2012.01.31 23:19:00 -
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Shazzam Vokanavom wrote:Can I suggest you look up the term Meta Win then and re-examine their stance on who they represent. Simply by neglecting certian members of the playerbase they are applying a preference for their own interests. Something CCP has in their constitutional afforded significant guidance to avoid and declared they wont tolerate or afford for legitamacy.
You'll soon learn who has specific interests and don't consider the overall collective interest of the whole of EvE. But that just raises the same old question that always comes up in these threads: so what? Has there been any case of a single entity gaining any kind of advantage from having a representative on the CSM?
We know one guy tried some insider dealing and got smacked down hard because of it (and in that case, he represented himself, not his corp/alliance iirc). Another got thrown out for (among other things) trying gain real-world advantages from the CSM seat. The key thing here is that they tried, and it didn't end well for them.
So is it in practice such a large problem if special interests are being represented on the council or if individual members only really represent their own (small or narrow) constituents?
Admittedly, it might be to ascribe more discretion and discipline to CCP than I would normally do, but without any clear examples of the CSM abusing their position, is it not at least a possibility that they manage to sanity-check any such excesses to keep them from happening? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
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MeestaPenni
Mercantile and Stuff
164
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Posted - 2012.01.31 23:23:00 -
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Selinate wrote: Still can't read apparently, since I quoted exactly what i originally put.
Good one....9/10.
Say what?
Read your first sentence closely. Then do it while replacing the sections in quotes with "A" and "B" respectively. See it?
Duh.
Now read your second sentence...it is a complete contradiction of what I quoted above. You did not quote exactly what you originally "put". (Put where? The verb is just floating there; begging to be abused and misused.)
Accusing others of illiteracy is ironic when it's done while mangling the semantics of the English language.
Thank you. This put-down brought to you courtesy of "The Tippia Way." Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? |
Seleene
Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion
430
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Posted - 2012.01.31 23:34:00 -
[412] - Quote
Cripes, what IS this thread? Seleene's Sandbox - My Blog, where I say stuff. Follow Seleene on Twitter |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4745
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Posted - 2012.01.31 23:39:00 -
[413] - Quote
Seleene wrote:Cripes, what IS this thread? The Eternum Praetorian Bullet Dancing ShowGäó, now on its 12th season. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Seleene
Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion
430
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Posted - 2012.01.31 23:45:00 -
[414] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Seleene wrote:Cripes, what IS this thread? The Eternum Praetorian Bullet Dancing ShowGäó, now on its 12th season.
Damn, give me a torrent link so I can see who dies at the end of season 11. Seleene's Sandbox - My Blog, where I say stuff. Follow Seleene on Twitter |
RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed RED.Legion
1344
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Posted - 2012.02.01 01:24:00 -
[415] - Quote
Seleene wrote:Tippia wrote:Seleene wrote:Cripes, what IS this thread? The Eternum Praetorian Bullet Dancing ShowGäó, now on its 12th season. Damn, give me a torrent link so I can see who dies at the end of season 11.
The gold starts in season 8, and new seasons have been coming out every 4-5 hours. The pace is absurd. Single-Shard, Player Driven Sandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special in my eyes. |
RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed RED.Legion
1344
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Posted - 2012.02.01 01:28:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:In regards to the question "Do null sec corps participate in RMT activities" the answer is yes.
Just for the simple fact that you can purchase a Titan for RL money means mean this is true since you can only build a Titan in Sov Space.
Say, for argument, I was an RMT dealer (which I am not). I probably have roughly 3 metric boatloads of liquid Isk. I want to add titans to my product list. I happen to know that some honest, non-RMT people build and sell Titans to anyone. I use one of my metric boatloads of Isk to buy a titan. Is that Alliance guilty of RMT?
Quote: Do we know which alliances sells Titans for RMT no.
So whilst we know that RMT does exist in all area's of space, including space which is owned by null sec alliances, we do not know who is involved.
We don't actually know either of these things. We may suspect them, but we have at this point no conclusive evidence. Single-Shard, Player Driven Sandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special in my eyes. |
RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed RED.Legion
1344
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Posted - 2012.02.01 01:34:00 -
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MeestaPenni wrote:Selinate wrote:This praetorium fellow apparently is STILL butthurt over being proven wrong. This is from post #249 and at this point, he had not been factually proven wrong.
Onus probandi GÇô from Latin "onus probandi incumbit ei qui dicit, non ei qui negat" the burden of proof is on the person who makes the claim, not on the person who denies (or questions the claim).
We had no cause to even attempt to prove anything or make any claim whatsoever. All we did was demand evidence. At the point that he failed to provide such evidence necessary to support his claims, they may be summarily dismissed. Single-Shard, Player Driven Sandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special in my eyes. |
RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed RED.Legion
1344
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Posted - 2012.02.01 01:36:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:Selinate wrote:Proven wrong over the fact that "There are RMT sites that I can find on google" does not equal "DRF space is botting and RMT central"
Yes. He has been proven wrong in that this is not a valid argument. I'd say it is only an outdated statement, being that the only reason why it is not still RMT and Botting central is because other regions have caught up. And I made that statement prior, solely in the hopes to find some common ground with Mr. Red Legion guy, only to later discover that he was not interested in doing so.
You wanted to find common ground with me by insulting me, my intelligence, and those who I associate with. Did you really think that that would work out well? Single-Shard, Player Driven Sandbox.
5 words. That's what makes it special in my eyes. |
RubyPorto
Profoundly Disturbed RED.Legion
1344
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Posted - 2012.02.01 01:56:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:Tippia wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote:I made a detailed claim of precisely who is RMT'ing and botting in nullsec? Yes. That's how all of this started. If you made it in error, now (or, more accurately, 10 pages ago) would be a good time to say so. No, that is a different and completely irrelevant claim that no-one has ever questioned. I think you should quote the part where I submitted evidence /statements regarding detailed claims about who does what where under the auspices of whom. Because a statement like "Drone space is botting central" most certainly does not fall under that category, and at this point you have deviated so far from reality that I have no idea what you are talking about.
You know what, I will show you, link, and explain where you made each and every one of the 10 specific claims you made.
1) I personally have or should have specific knowledge of Botting in RED.L Space 2) I personally have or should have specific knowledge of RMT in RED.L Space 3) I personally have or should have specific knowledge that RED.L tolerates botting/RMT
"RubyPorto, no one can help you if your hiding under a rock out there." "Meaning that if you have not seen said things for yourself by now, then you must be living under a rock out there."
These statements, in the context of the posts immediately preceding them make claims 1-3. They do nothing to support said claims.
Saying that I must be "living under a rock" makes the claim that I should have specific knowledge of Botting/RMT in my alliance's space, or of an alliance policy tolerating said activities. Implied in the claim that I "should have knowledge" is the alternative claim that I do have knowledge but either I refuse to admit it, or I actively ignore it.
4) Botting Occurs in the Drone Region Federation 5) The Drone Region Federation has a policy of tolerating Botting 6) RMT Occurs in the Drone Region Federation 7) The Drone Region Federation has a policy of tolerating RMT 8) All of 4-7 are more true of the Drone Region Federation than of ANY OTHER PLACE in EVE 9) Any or all of 4-7 are true of the Drone Region Federation to a concentrated enough extent that they can be accurately called "Bot/RMT Central" 10) RED.L is a part of the Drone Region Federation
"Ruby, I have obviously made him angry. I enjoy his nerdy forum rage and half baked stabs at me. Forum troll tears are the very best tears of them all. To you I can only say that you live in the very heart of RMT/ Botting central." "But, your taking a stance that directly contradicts the observations of many others. So... believe what you want. This is a thread about CSM corruption and water not being wet from what I recall. Why don't you go and make a "drone regions have no RMT and no Botters thread" and see what kind of response it gets."
And there you have the other 6 claims.
The second quote fairly directly makes the claim that my Alliance is part of the DRF(10), and is why all of the rest of the claims stemming from this refer to the DRF. "The Heart of RMT/Botting Central," besides being redundant, directly claims that botting and RMT occurs in the DRF (4&6) and claims 8&9(9 being a subset of 8)(omitted to save space). That phrase also indirectly claims that there is a policy (official or not) of tolerating such activities in the DRF(5&7), as no place becomes the center of an activity without knowing about it and actively tolerating it.
So there you have it. Direct quotes and a quick explanation of how you made the claims that I want you to provide evidence for. Single-Shard, Player Driven Sandbox.
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RubyPorto wrote: At the point that he failed to provide such evidence necessary to support his claims, they may be summarily dismissed.
That's okay....your prerogative. "Dismissing" his claims are fine, but notwithstanding what the ancient Romans thought, it must be rightfully pointed out that the claim has not been dis-proven as well.
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