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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1773
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Posted - 2012.01.29 00:53:00 -
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Ilany wrote:What, and you think anyone apart from goon circle-jerkers care about your bilious drivel? Dream on.
so bitter
must've been scammed or suicide ganked vOv andski for csm7~ |
Killstealing
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
365
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Posted - 2012.01.29 00:53:00 -
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uhhhhhhh
a vote for mittens is a vote for kittens |
Killstealing
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
365
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Posted - 2012.01.29 00:54:00 -
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also circlejerking is amazing, it's all of the reward with so little effort |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
545
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Posted - 2012.01.29 01:38:00 -
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TIL that there is a human being who considers "winning a general election due to massive support from his allies" as a form of vote rigging. |
Botleten
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
258
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Posted - 2012.01.29 02:08:00 -
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Confirmed, CCP is ran by goons who rig the CSM election to ensure we win, but they only decided to do it that one year last year, and they also only put 2 goons on the council. But yeah, you're totally right dude, its 100% rigged.
Also confirming, goons do have circle jerks. Lots of them. |
Connaght Badasaz
Reasonable People Of Sound Mind
26
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Posted - 2012.01.29 02:08:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:There are approximately 7000 members of GSF. Let's be generous and assume that every single one of these members belongs to a seperate account which can vote
There are approximately 350,000 active accounts which can vote.
"Goons" make up a massive TWO PERCENT of the voting population.
It doesn't matter how much hysterical hurfblurf people spout out about the sneaky evil goons rigging this or controlling that (where do they get the time? ) the plain, incontestable, inconvenient, annoying fact is that they got their guy elected because they got their asses in gear, got motivated, got organised, got their members to actually vote, and as a result they got their result.
All the fancy STV schemes and reserved seats and consituencies and yadda yadda won't count for **** unless the people who are bawwing their little eyes out about MEAN OLE MITTENS cut out the slacktivism and god damb well VOTE.
Well no matter the source, I throw the bullshit flag on 350k..
And what part of vote for the alliance leader don't you get? seems reasonable, load up the CSM and giggle about it. It fits. |
Alphea Abbra
Project Promethion
3
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Posted - 2012.01.29 03:07:00 -
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Botleten wrote:Confirmed, CCP is ran by goons who rig the CSM election to ensure we win, but they only decided to do it that one year last year, and they also only put 2 goons on the council. But yeah, you're totally right dude, its 100% rigged.
Also confirming, goons do have circle jerks. Lots of them. Confirming that CCP/CFC/CSM is all the same person with a lot of computers and a sympathy for the devil, as performed by Rolling Stones. I know this through my superior divination powers that gives me a huge insight into things I haven't tried, seen or inquired about. It is the same divination power that enables me to say that all 0.0 alliances are 190% botters and that Lyris Nairn is everyone's alt character.
+ 1 important spaceship game forum like. |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8211
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Posted - 2012.01.29 03:19:00 -
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Alphea Abbra wrote:I had, some months ago, decided to vote for anyone endorsed by the worst possible null-sec alliance. I had, back then, the intention of voting for whomever the IRC HC decided to endorse, since personal experience with the HC told me that such a person would be most likely to "ruin EVE". I also pondered on the chance of a known botter getting my vote, since known botters most certainly are "ruining EVE". Now, however, after reading this huge number of threads against Mittani or GSF or CFC dominance in the CSM, I might vote for whoever GSF/CFC endorses, since popular opinion is that they are most likely to "ruin EVE".
Now, some of you might ask for the logic behind this decision? Well, since the launch of Incursion (I started around when Incursion launch-date was announced), I've seen that everything that is about to ruin EVE makes for either a great feature or at least a noteworthy experience. And this CSM was apparently predicted to destroy EVE the most, yet they were a part of what made CCP back out of the Incarna way of thinking and into Crucible & "War Themed Expansion". Granted, not everything is perfect, and probably neither CSM7, but if things meant to ruin EVE either makes great additions or at least good experiences to learn from, well, I'll vote for total annihilation every day of the week.
Thanks Mittani, Vile Rat, GSF & CFC, you'll always keep that honorary -10 standing in my heart. <3 Vote for me, instead! I am the independent, non-endorsed Goon running for CSM7 Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM I am the Pubbie Whisperer |
Mars Theran
EVE Rogues EVE Rogues Alliance
105
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Posted - 2012.01.29 03:24:00 -
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Tippia wrote:WhyTry1 wrote:People in small corps/alliances even though they may have lots of eve experience, would never get voted because of this.. No, the reason they rarely get voted in is because they can't capture an audience or a following and try to rely on their small corps/alliances to get them in rather than to run a proper campaign. History has show as much.
Considering the argument here, is that Null Alliances use "...corps/alliances to get them in rather than to run a proper campaign;" your statement is a little ironic, and maybe somewhat daft.
I don't mind you Tippia, (really I don't), but you say the strangest things sometimes. TIIP: The Incredible Invisible Poster |
Conrad Makbure
Division One Security
6
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Posted - 2012.01.29 03:48:00 -
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There should be 2 CSM parties, one to represent the null community and one to represent the high sec community. There might not be bipartisan stance on anything, but it would show two sides to things when they come up.
But how do you determine the high sec community since it can be infiltrated much easier than the null sec community? |
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Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
338
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Posted - 2012.01.29 03:50:00 -
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You're right! Let's just make The Mittani the CSM Dictator for Life. |
Selinate
629
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Posted - 2012.01.29 04:22:00 -
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Vote with your wallet. As seen by recent events, that tends to get CCP's attention fairly quick if enough people do it. |
Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
71
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Posted - 2012.01.29 04:36:00 -
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WhyTry1 wrote:Tippia wrote:WhyTry1 wrote:People in small corps/alliances even though they may have lots of eve experience, would never get voted because of this.. No, the reason they rarely get voted in is because they can't capture an audience or a following and try to rely on their small corps/alliances to get them in rather than to run a proper campaign. History has show as much. tippia gtfo out my thread, your opinion will never matter... now get out An OP that 'discusses' like that disqualifies himself from being taken seriously.. Good job mate, saves me to read the remainder of your thread.
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Selinate
629
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Posted - 2012.01.29 04:39:00 -
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I was going to say something more, but I just don't think I could care any less at all in any way about a couple of nerds who actually want to run for office in a video game. If that's how they want to spend their time, whatever. If they take the game down with them, I have a lot of other games I can play. Seriously, CSM is just one of the things in Eve that doesn't even deserve discussion... |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
18
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Posted - 2012.01.29 05:20:00 -
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Alphea Abbra wrote:Thanks Mittani, Vile Rat, GSF & CFC, you'll always keep that honorary -10 standing in my heart. <3 Drop by some time, but you might be killed and podded.
I do admire your position on voting for most likely to ruin EVE. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4619
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Posted - 2012.01.29 09:34:00 -
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Killstealing wrote:uhhhhhhh
a vote for mittens is a vote for kittens Don't be silly. A vote for mittens is a vote for puppies! GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
290
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Posted - 2012.01.29 09:46:00 -
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WhyTry1 wrote:Im sorry but learn about democracy! The only thing democratic is the freedom to vote. Apart from that you votes ARE GUARANTEED! its basically FIXED!! its your own damn alliance mates voting for you, therefore its FIXED!!
I am confuse... So if teh people who like you vote for you, as oppose to voting for someone they dont like, they are fixing the voting? Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
226
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Posted - 2012.01.29 10:39:00 -
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Democracy depends on a balance, where every vote is percieved to be equal. The goons ruin that ballance and not every vote is percieved as equal with them.
Dont think it matters too much for goons in general, since every CSM wants their position back really. If only the goon CSM wanted their spots back it might be a goon problem, but seemed like they all wanted the seat again for 2012. Threads like this generally result in anything positive.
Locked. |
Countess Markievicz
Countess Markievicz Corporation
0
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Posted - 2012.01.29 14:28:00 -
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This is meant in a light hearted way
Whenever I see a post by Tippia, which is quite often, I am always reminded of the Buddy Holly song: Listen to me.
CM |
Eternum Praetorian
Black Ops Trade Group
431
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Posted - 2012.01.29 14:32:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote:This is actually not the issue at all. The rigged part of the voting process comes from multiple account holders and accounts purchased with Plex, combined with ISK faucets that only Null Sec alliances have access to. What ISK faucets would that be, seeing as how all faucets are a available in all space?
Say wah?
Your posts are beginning to lessen in quality lately. Maybe a secret new account holder for Tippa?
Reallocate funds for Icelandic air fare to developing an integrated player input function in the UI. Then talk directly to the customers with polls to collect demographics and game preferences
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4620
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Posted - 2012.01.29 14:36:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:Tippia wrote:What ISK faucets would that be, seeing as how all faucets are a available in all space? Say wah? EVE has six ISK faucets:
- NPC bounties
- NPC buy orders
- Mission rewards
- Insurance payout
- GM actions: Reimbursement for lost pods
- Character creation
Aside from character creation (which doesn't really exist in space at all, but which dumps you in highsec), all of them are available in all parts of space. So I'm asking you: what ISK faucets only the nullsec alliances have access to? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Eternum Praetorian
Black Ops Trade Group
431
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Posted - 2012.01.29 14:40:00 -
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Tippia wrote: what ISK faucets only the nullsec alliances have access to?
HQ Sacntums + moon mining + High NPC bounties all feeding into corporate wallets and the wallets of alliance leaders. I wish the average EVE Online player wasn't so dumb as to believe crap like what your like is spewing. Anyone with an average amount of sense knows that Null Sec alliances have access to godly amounts of ISK. Reallocate funds for Icelandic air fare to developing an integrated player input function in the UI. Then talk directly to the customers with polls to collect demographics and game preferences
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Prince Kobol
177
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Posted - 2012.01.29 14:40:00 -
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WhyTry1 wrote:I have no faith in the election voting process at all.
A candidate basically has his hundreds of alliance mate votes, and their alts on top. Pretty much seals the candidates seat and we can say is pretty much rigged voting..
People in small corps/alliances even though they may have lots of eve experience, would never get voted because of this.. So thats why i guess a lot of ppl dont stand and ppl dont vote either...
I still think that CCP should be the people to effectively 'interview' candidates from all areas (null, low, empire, pvp, trade) and they choose who they think is the best person to be on the CSM. Thats pretty much the only way to ensure fairness.
Already covered that this would be a terrible idea but hen again you are the worst poster in Eve...
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Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
24
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Posted - 2012.01.29 14:45:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:Tippia wrote: what ISK faucets only the nullsec alliances have access to? HQ Sacntums + moon mining + High NPC bounties all feeding into corporate wallets and the wallets of alliance leaders. I wish the average EVE Online player wasn't so dumb as to believe crap like what your like is spewing. Anyone with an average amount of sense knows that Null Sec alliances have access to godly amounts of ISK. moon mining = no1 isk faucet
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4620
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Posted - 2012.01.29 14:47:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:HQ Sacntums + moon mining + High NPC bounties all feeding into corporate wallets and the wallets of alliance leaders. GǪexcept that moon mining isn't an ISK faucet and that the others are available in other sectors of space.
Quote: I wish the average EVE Online player wasn't so dumb as to believe crap like what your like is spewing. Wow. That really demonstrated in full detail what's wrong with what I just saidGǪ
GǪi.e. nothing. That's why they listen to me: because it's not crap and I actually have a clue what I'm talking about. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Eternum Praetorian
Black Ops Trade Group
431
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Posted - 2012.01.29 14:52:00 -
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Vera Algaert wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote:Tippia wrote: what ISK faucets only the nullsec alliances have access to? HQ Sacntums + moon mining + High NPC bounties all feeding into corporate wallets and the wallets of alliance leaders. I wish the average EVE Online player wasn't so dumb as to believe crap like what your like is spewing. Anyone with an average amount of sense knows that Null Sec alliances have access to godly amounts of ISK. moon mining = no1 isk faucet
If you say so. Reallocate funds for Icelandic air fare to developing an integrated player input function in the UI. Then talk directly to the customers with polls to collect demographics and game preferences
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Grumpy Owly
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
132
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Posted - 2012.01.29 14:52:00 -
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Play fair Tippia at least explain the difference to the those who might be uninitiated about what the difference is between personal income generation/spending and a game faucet/sink. It is easy to get confused with the analogy if you are unaware to the terms in EvE.
I know no-one is paying you to educate the masses, but a little bit of philanthropy for forum decorum?
"All griefers are lazy cowards with the current climate of broken player policing systems." |
Eternum Praetorian
Black Ops Trade Group
431
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Posted - 2012.01.29 14:53:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Eternum Praetorian wrote:HQ Sacntums + moon mining + High NPC bounties all feeding into corporate wallets and the wallets of alliance leaders. GǪexcept that moon mining isn't an ISK faucet and that the others are available in other sectors of space. Quote: I wish the average EVE Online player wasn't so dumb as to believe crap like what your like is spewing. Wow. That really demonstrated in full detail what's wrong with what I just saidGǪ GǪi.e. nothing. That's why they listen to me: because it's not crap and I actually have a clue what I'm talking about. The reason you think it's crap is because you're clueless. In this case, you're clueless about what GǣISK faucetsGǥ are.
I don't know what to tell you miss sunshine, but you could not be further from the truth on this one. Maybe you don't know how the big alliances work?
Reallocate funds for Icelandic air fare to developing an integrated player input function in the UI. Then talk directly to the customers with polls to collect demographics and game preferences
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4621
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Posted - 2012.01.29 14:57:00 -
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Grumpy Owly wrote:Play fair Tippia at least explain the difference to the those who might be uninitiated about what the difference is between personal income generation and a game faucet/sink. It is easy to get confused with the analogy if you are unaware to the terms in EvE. ISK faucet = a mechanic that adds ISK out of nowhere to the overall EVE economy. ISK sink = a mechanic that flushes ISK into /dev/null and removes it from the overall EVE economy.
Faucets:- NPC bounties
- NPC buy orders
- Mission rewards
- Insurance payout
- GM actions: Reimbursement for lost pods
- Character creation
Sinks:- Market taxes & fees: Broker fees, Sales tax
- NPC sell orders
- NPC station services: Repairs, Jump clone installation, Medical clone installation/upgrade/station change, Science and industry slot rental, Ship insurance
- NPC station office fees: Rent, Impound penalties
- Wardecs
- Sovereignty fees
- PI fees: Building PI structures, Import/export tax (from NPC-owned customs offices)
- Corp & alliance fees: Corp creation, Alliance creation, Alliance upkeep, Creating/awarding medals, Corp registry ads
- Agent fees: (Certain) LP store items, Locator agent services, Courier missions w/ deposits
- CSPA Charges
- Smuggling fines
- GM Actions: Removal of bought ISK, Removal of insurance after ship reimbursement
- Character deletion
Everything else GÇö most notably player-to-player trading GÇö is neither: it's simply a way to move ISK from one person to the next without changing the total amount of ISK in the economy (in practice, most trading is actually a tiny ISK sink due to the taxes and broker fees). The movement of ISK in and out of your wallet is entirely irrelevant to determining if something is a faucet or sink; what matters is the source and destination of the ISK. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4621
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Posted - 2012.01.29 14:58:00 -
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Eternum Praetorian wrote:I don't know what to tell you miss sunshine, but you could not be further from the truth on this one. Maybe you don't know how the big alliances work? I know how the economy works, which is why I know you're hilariously wrong. If you fixed your cranirectal syndrome and paid attention, you might accidentally learn something. I highly recommend it. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
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