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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:00:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:NO other alliance wants to know assets. LIES RiiightGǪ
Yes they do. In fact, a fair amount of them will want to know a whole lot more. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:02:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:If they were using this solely to gank targets I say awesome....but room for accounts to be hacked is too great and is inappropriate Good thing, then, that no such room is offered by the API. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:11:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:You are wrong....read the site Ok. GÇ£The above URL gives you output that is exactly what CCP gives youGÇ¥
I.e. subject to the 6h cache. Not real-time.
Quote:ALSO still looking for answer as to why goons wants complete asset list You've already been given it: for the same reason everyone else asks for it.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:19:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:I have been part of a lot of alliances no one else has asked for complete asset list. Good for you. That doesn't change the fact that there are quite a few who's asking for it.
Quote:There is no good reason anyone needs to see complete asset list. Sure there is. Your reluctance to give it up, alone, is a compelling reason.
Quote:PLEASE PROVIDE GOOD ANSWER AS TO WHY COMPLETE ASSET LIST IS REQUIRED. For the same reason as everyone else. Oh, and as noted, it's not required in any meaningful way. That doesn't really answer the question: why do you care? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:25:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:Please provide answer as to why goons needs anyones complete asset list. Done.
Quote:there is no reason you should be asking the question. you dont need to know where my set of alliance tourney ships are sitting...you dont need to know where my jump freighter full of stuff is...you dont need to know my ship fitting. Sure there is. Perhaps not if you have such irrelevant assets, but how will they know without checking?
Quote:i have never been part of any alliance that has wanted complete asset list. Irrelevant. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:35:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:Oh goons...please stop trying to to change the subject....no answer has been given... Plenty have been given, but none of them align with your silly ramblings because they are just that: silly ramblings (with exactly zero connection to reality).
Quote:Corp theft is not valid reason. Don't be silly GÇö of course it is.
Quote:other corps do it is not valid. Sure it is GÇö it proves your assertions wrong, for one.
Quote:Hacking accounts or selling the information to someone who will hack the account is a valid inter alliance tactic? Good thing no-one is doing that, then, since the API doesn't let you.
Glarealot wrote:Wait, that's your answer? He's probably hoping the OP will admit to selling supers to the enemy. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:41:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:Account hacking is a bad thing and effects everyone....no one should be taking that subject lightly...as it seems all the goons and alts seem to be doing.... The only one taking it less than seriously is you, with your wild fantasies about how it is done.
Quote:if you are heading an alliance you should be beyond reproach on this subject...as caretakers..or even gankers...you should not be adopting a policy that is so obviously suspect to account hacking. Good thing it doesn't do that, then.
Quote:corp theft is not valid Categorical statement is categorically false. Of course it's valid. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:44:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:You make babysitting on the internet seemlike a chore....all of this is automated. So you understand, then, why they want your API and why it has nothing to do with picking targets?
Quote:next scenario is the ganker with your api...runs check...know your ship fitting and what you are carrying GǪand finds nothing since the information is not real-time.
Quote:very easy and very scary No. Just paranoid (but I suppose that's scary too, in a way).
Quote:These are not fantasies Excellent. Then you can go ahead and prove it. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:46:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:Again because daddy said so is not an answer. It is as long as you live under his roof. Don't want to do as he says? Stop living there.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:47:00 -
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Also, yoink. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:51:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:You are an idiot...you use api to find who is worth the time and effort to hack...there are many methods available once you find the target...just because you dont know them doesnt mean they dont exist So prove it rather than spout what can only be described as hysterical nonsense. So far, pretty much everything you've said has been trivially proven false. Care to improve on that statistic?
Quote:LOL it is none of my business why someone wants to see my asset list....huh? Yup. What they want is entirely irrelevant GÇö what matters is whether or not you want to go along.
Quote:still not valid answer. Try arguing your case instead of making unfounded categorical statements. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:55:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:you havent added anything to the discussion of relevance so nothing to disprove...only answer so far is because i said so...that is not a valid answer Ok. So just because you say it isn't a valid answer doesn't make it an invalid answer.
See how that works? According to you, your dismissal of the argument is invalid. How about you provide a valid answer instead?
Argue your case instead of spewing nonsense. Explain why it's not valid. Prove your case.
So far, everything you've said has been entirely false. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:59:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:You can not silence truth seekers...kkeep trying....why does daddy want to see my assets? Because you're living in his basement and he doesn't want to be screwed over by your hydroponic gardenGǪ
Quote:and you would have known who the buyer was....fail logic Yes, that was indeed fail logic GÇö nothing about the buyer would be known just from the ship being built. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Posted - 2012.01.28 20:01:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:nice try to change subject. So why don't you stop doing it and accept the fact that I just answered your question in full. You made the GÇ£daddy says soGÇ¥ simile GÇö you have to live with it.
Quote:goons why do you need to see everyones complete list of assets? For the reason explained above. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Posted - 2012.01.28 20:02:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:i want to know why he wants this information and what he does with it. What you want is irrelevant GÇö what matters is if you accept it or not.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
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Posted - 2012.01.28 20:04:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:and stop trying to confuse the subject He didn't. You're just being confused by how the game works, which is why you've dreamed up this unproven scenario of yours.
Quote:as leaders you have a duty No they don't. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Posted - 2012.01.28 20:09:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:as i have pointed out this information can be used to filter through to accounts worth the time and risk to be hacked.... Prove it.
Quote:Answers that accuse one of being fail corp thief are not relevant...answers that tell me to do it because i said so are not reasons Of course they are, by your own logic. Just because you don't like the answers doesn't mean they don't answer your question in full.
If you don't like the answer, you simply choose not to comply. Why is that so hard for you? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
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Posted - 2012.01.28 20:15:00 -
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2bhammered wrote:You are very, very wrong.
Giving people your account name does increase chances of being hacked, same with emails, you can not get away from that. GǪexcept that they're not asking for that, so he's actually very very right.
Quote:Real reason is=no one can rat in delve while OP is going and we need to check your ISK accounts I'm beginning to suspect that CCP needs to check the OP's accountsGǪ
scooter Kondur wrote:I am repeating this until there is a legitimate answer So why haven't you stopped? A plethora of legitimate answers have been given and you've proven utterly incapable of arguing why they're not legitimate. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
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Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.01.28 20:20:00 -
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Naynomi wrote:It's corporate level API, dipshit. Not the same as individual level. At all. Wait what? Has the OP really misunderstood things on that fundamental level?!
scooter Kondur wrote:Issue is goons want complete asset list and the answer they are offering is because we said so. And that's a sufficient reason. If you don't want to abide by their rules, you're free to stop playing in their back yard. Why is this such an issue for you?
Quote:Not a valid answer...people have alts Does not invalidate the answer GÇö it actually rather reinforces why they'd need the information (or, preferably, even more). GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.01.28 20:23:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:wrong What is?
Quote:if i want to join goon fleets i need to provide this information So? If you don't want to abide by their rules, you're free to stop playing in their back yard. Why is this such an issue for you? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
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Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.01.28 20:25:00 -
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Karadion wrote:Naynomi wrote:So I just made a pizza, and it was great. I made 2 pizzas and slipped my ***** between them. It was painfully pleasurable. Poor pizza. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
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Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.01.28 20:28:00 -
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Also, I would like to thank the OP for helping me get past 4 600 GÇö it's ridiculously easy to get GÇ£well, that sounds reasonableGÇ¥-likes when arguing against such dumbfuckery. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
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Posted - 2012.01.28 20:34:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:There is no reason why goons need to know all assets of of CFC except: Auditing. First-line security. Because they say so.
Don't like it? Don't play in their back yard. Just take your ball and go home! That'll show'em! GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
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Posted - 2012.01.28 20:37:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:not a good enough reason. Prove it.
Quote:by anaology...
get in my van and pull your pants down...put paper bag over head...why...because i said so... YesGǪ? So what? It's not like you have to go along with it. Why is this so hard for you to grasp?
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
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Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.01.28 20:42:00 -
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Aiwha wrote:(No, the rest of EVE will not write GS a strongly worded letter discouraging the mistreatment of their bitches) I'm leaning towards doing the exact opposite, but then again, I'm not sure it's neededGǪ GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
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Posted - 2012.01.28 20:45:00 -
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Naynomi wrote:Damnit, missed the snipe AGAIN Edits don't count. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
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Posted - 2012.01.28 20:52:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:Why are you hiding your Megathron from the People's Government? Because it's a ship designed and built by raving hedonist-liberals?
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
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Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.01.28 20:54:00 -
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Aiwha wrote:No, we fly amarrian. I thought they were more raving masochist-authoritarians.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
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Posted - 2012.01.28 20:57:00 -
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Karadion wrote:We're talking about tobasco sauce on jabber and slathering them on our balls along with Bengay & Icy Hot. Good conversation, yes? See, those are the things you should put in the GF recruitment thread. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
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Posted - 2012.01.28 21:02:00 -
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Mag's wrote:I'd sign up, but then I'm already in as Lyris Nairn. Fair enough. I think I read somewhere that I'm in already as well, as Mittens.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
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Posted - 2012.01.28 21:06:00 -
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Mag's wrote:As you can seemingly manipulate the CSM and therefore CCP so much, (so I hear) can I have a Yacht? You can have a fishing trawler GÇö it's the Icelandic way.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.01.28 21:27:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:So I leave to walk my dog comeback to 2 more pages of nothing. Nah. You come back to 2 pages of actual content, unlike the previous 10.
Quote:why do goons need to have all this information on your members when you don't even have it.... GǪexcept that they do indeed have it, if more trustworthy sources are to be believed. And the reasons they need it have been enumerated in glorious detail GÇö you have yet to explain why it's such an issue for you. If you don't like their rules, don't play by (and with) them.
Quote:I am saying the potential is there..and goons should offer transparency in this matter Why should they?
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
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Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.01.28 21:30:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:No one from goons leadership has come out and stated no we will not use this to hack your account, GǪlargely because it can't be used that way.
Quote:there have been no assurances that this information will not be used for nefarious reasons on goons part....why is that? Because it's none of your business. Don't like it? Don't play along.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.01.28 21:35:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:You saying that it can't or won't does not make it true. Funny you'd say thatGǪ you haven't offered anything that even hints at your delusions being true. Maybe you should start doing thatGǪ
Quote:I have outlined a variety of situations where it can. No. You've outlined a variety of situations that have nothing to do with the corp API.
Quote:Again they have a complete list of all your assets...they have a complete list of assets in a region...they have a complete list of your skills...yes they can None of that lets them do anything to your account. So no, they can't.
Quote:Goon leadership should really step up and say..no we won't be using this information to attack our allies. Why should they? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
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Posted - 2012.01.28 21:40:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:Why is it that you think that with a complete list of assets that they won't have a complete list of your assets? this is what i find mind boggling in all of this... What's mind-boggling is your infinite density. No-one is thinking that GÇö but nice straw-man. What people are thinking is that your paranoid fantasies are paranoid fantasies since the information the corp API provides doesn't let anyone do the things you claim they can do.
Quote:there is no good reason why anyone needs to see complete list of assets This is still incorrect, by the way. Plenty of reasons have been given and you've been completely unable to argue any of them. Your constant failed attempts at misdirection away from this fact is what has created a thread that was answered in 1GÇô2 pages. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
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Posted - 2012.01.28 21:48:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:There is no reason that goons would need this information Incorrect. Repeating your unfounded nonsense doesn't make it an less unfounded or any less nonsensical.
Quote:There are no other alliance that want all this information. Incorrect.
Quote:The information in API has the potential to be abused and this is contrary to EULA... Incorrect.
Also, the question remains: why is it such an issue for you? Don't want to follow their rules? Then don't. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
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Posted - 2012.01.28 21:55:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:Let us say I am wrong. We already are.
Quote:why do goons need to have complete list of assets of everyone in CFC? Because they say so.
Quote:tbh more you guys go on the more I tend to think the RMTers are getting desperate You're the one trying to hide information you think this rule will expose (it won't, of course, since you don't understand what any of this does).
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
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Posted - 2012.01.28 21:58:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:Goon do not want to provide an answer..that does not mean there is not one GǪexcept that they (and everyone else) have provided tons of answers. You just don't understand them.
Quote:just because you say so is not really a valid answer. So your answer is invalid then? Well, chucksGǪ we already knew that. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
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Posted - 2012.01.28 22:02:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:meh my trolls will not succeed here That's why we're still posting: to stop you.
Quote:your arguments are not valid Prove it.
Quote:if you can use alt to make the account then why is having any sort of api check worth the effort? Already answered. Try reading. Also, try understanding what information is being asked for.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
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