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scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:27:00 -
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Goons have a new requirement in order to be able to join their fleets - They want FULL ASSET list. Is there really any good reason for this? The topper on all of this is the shame list for corporations that don't comply.
The following was sent out to all members of the CFC:
vCode needs to have a minimum access mask of 50725130 (following the link above will create a key with this mask) which is the following access
Private Information: AccountStatus Private Information: CharacterInfo Private Information: SkillQueue Private Information: SkillInTraining Private Information: CharacterSheet Private Information: AssetList Public Information: KillLog
Your vCode needs to list ALL characters on your account and by of type Character Your vCode needs to have no expiration date (make sure the No Expiry checkbox is checked)
Compliance numbers continue to climb with regards to the new vCode requirements, however there are still some alt corps that are not in compliance. There are also some member corps that aren't in compliance either, I've added these to the list.
To see the list of shame please visit: https://goonfleet.com/index.php?/topic/170093-required-corp-api-key-changes/
Please note that tomorrow we will be announcing fines for any corp not in compliance.
SHAME ON GOONS |
Steve Celeste
Wolfsbrigade
2
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:33:00 -
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You cannot hack accounts by using API keys.
Next. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3010
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:34:00 -
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You also should know beetter that goons do not recruit ingame.
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1755
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:35:00 -
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Why is the EVE playerbase so fucking stupid?
You can't hack accounts via API. We require full-access corp-level APIs for every corp in the alliance for audit reasons. That requirement has existed for years. andski for csm7~ |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
0
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:36:00 -
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Not using the API to hack. Using the API to probe out the big fish. There are lots of other ways to hack an account. This method just lets whoever is doing the hacking figure out which account is worth the effort. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1755
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:37:00 -
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Because account hacking is a totally legitimate form of metagaming, right moron? You can't even see account details (username, e-mail) via API. andski for csm7~ |
Ezurae
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
29
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:37:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:Goons have a new requirement in order to be able to join their fleets - They want FULL ASSET list. Is there really any good reason for this? The topper on all of this is the shame list for corporations that don't comply. The following was sent out to all members of the CFC: vCode needs to have a minimum access mask of 50725130 (following the link above will create a key with this mask) which is the following access Private Information: AccountStatus Private Information: CharacterInfo Private Information: SkillQueue Private Information: SkillInTraining Private Information: CharacterSheet Private Information: AssetList Public Information: KillLog Your vCode needs to list ALL characters on your account and by of type Character Your vCode needs to have no expiration date (make sure the No Expiry checkbox is checked) Compliance numbers continue to climb with regards to the new vCode requirements, however there are still some alt corps that are not in compliance. There are also some member corps that aren't in compliance either, I've added these to the list. To see the list of shame please visit: https://goonfleet.com/index.php?/topic/170093-required-corp-api-key-changes/Please note that tomorrow we will be announcing fines for any corp not in compliance. SHAME ON GOONS
add yourself to the list of shame because you got no clue what the api allows and what not...
fyi: API allows only the reading of information. nothing can be stolen through the api... AND the api doesnt provide any information that could help with hacking someones account (ie accountname, password (lol)) |
ugh zug
4
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:38:00 -
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how exactly does this put you at risk of being hacked? i mean they already get your IP when you log into ventrilo or teamspeak, and it doesn't take much after that point to get into your system. Want me to shut up?-á Send me ISK and i'll stop giving suggestions to CCP that make sense. Remove content from my post, 15 bil Remove my content from a thread I have started 30bil. |
Prince Kobol
176
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:38:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:Not using the API to hack. Using the API to probe out the big fish. There are lots of other ways to hack an account. This method just lets whoever is doing the hacking figure out which account is worth the effort.
I swear to god people who play this game are getting dumber by the day.
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scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
0
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:38:00 -
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No in order to join GSF coms you need to provide all this information. And anyways only reason to know complete asset list is to probe out the big fish and hack their account...or gank them...you know that there are sites where once you have the API you can see where assets are in real time? |
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scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
0
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:41:00 -
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Why do goons need to see my assets? |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3010
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:42:00 -
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Market intel before api used to be a very hard portfolio to put together but if you have anyone's portfolio you can easily ruin them with your wallet by hitting htier wallet.
EIther way you'd be an idiot trader trying to join goomswarm in this manner.
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1755
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:42:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:No in order to join GSF coms you need to provide all this information. And anyways only reason to know complete asset list is to probe out the big fish and hack their account...or gank them...you know that there are sites where once you have the API you can see where assets are in real time?
what do they put in the water these days? goddamn andski for csm7~ |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
0
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:43:00 -
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Why do goons need to see anyone's assets? Have yet to hear an answer that makes any sense. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1755
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:44:00 -
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Nova Fox wrote:Market intel before api used to be a very hard portfolio to put together but if you have anyone's portfolio you can easily ruin them with your wallet by hitting htier wallet.
EIther way you'd be an idiot trader trying to join goomswarm in this manner.
too bad nobody has access to view my market orders, heh, or even my assets andski for csm7~ |
Jovan Geldon
SniggWaffe EVE Corporation 123566322353
307
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:45:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:Why do goons need to see anyone's assets? Have yet to hear an answer that makes any sense.
I don't quite understand how, but you got me good bro. I actually had a proper rage post written out and everything.
9/10. I'm docking 1 point for unoriginality because you used GoonSwarm as your example. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1755
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:46:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:Why do goons need to see anyone's assets? Have yet to hear an answer that makes any sense.
why do you care andski for csm7~ |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
0
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:48:00 -
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Let me spell this out a bit more simply because GOONS AND ALTS seem to like to try and cloud the issue.
Anyone who wants to join mumble has to provide this information in order to get on - that includes allies....so no no just goons....
Once the api is provided assets can be tracked in real time
you are either going to be ganked by goon alt or information will be used to hack your account...yes you cant use api to hack account but there are other ways for it to be done...not including the usual goons social engineering tactics. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3010
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:48:00 -
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Andski wrote:Nova Fox wrote:Market intel before api used to be a very hard portfolio to put together but if you have anyone's portfolio you can easily ruin them with your wallet by hitting htier wallet.
EIther way you'd be an idiot trader trying to join goomswarm in this manner. too bad nobody has access to view my market orders, heh, or even my assets
Spam Agent finder.
buy random items from market
Check journal to see who you bought items from
passive targeters
and
cargo hold scanner.
This would only give a partial porfolio but after two three weeks youll have more than enough of an idea about a persons buying and selling habbits if they are serious traders to ruin them if they dont coin flip thier entire stratagey.
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Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3010
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:49:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:Let me spell this out a bit more simply because GOONS AND ALTS seem to like to try and cloud the issue.
Anyone who wants to join mumble has to provide this information in order to get on - that includes allies....so no not just goons....
Once the api is provided assets can be tracked in real time
you are either going to be ganked by goon alt or information will be used to hack your account...yes you cant use api to hack account but there are other ways for it to be done...not including the usual goons social engineering tactics.
Good sir, I can gaurantee goonswarm would be able to disown me of having any alts in thier corproation, I am not part of thier petting zoo.
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scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
0
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:52:00 -
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Stay on topic TBH you look like you are just trying to help bury the truth. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3011
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:54:00 -
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Fox knows no truths, only realities.
The one you twisted into existince is rather.... horribly distorted.
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scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
0
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:55:00 -
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I have seen these sort of thing happen in the former northern coalition...round up all the noobs with more isk then brains...and one by one all their accounts get hacked....so reality right now? no.... but experience can see where this is going... |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1755
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:55:00 -
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"Guys guys I have no evidence for any of the pubbie nonsense i'm about to parrot over and over but ~THE GOONIES~ require asset list access on their APIs just like literally everyone else and they are CLEARLY using this to probe targets for account hacking and there can't be any other reason at all" andski for csm7~ |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
0
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:57:00 -
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There is no reason you need to see anyones assets.
NO other alliance wants to know assets. LIES |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3011
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Posted - 2012.01.28 18:59:00 -
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I say its a proper redistribution of wealth based on intelligence and cunning factor, of this service I approve.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4598
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:00:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:NO other alliance wants to know assets. LIES RiiightGǪ
Yes they do. In fact, a fair amount of them will want to know a whole lot more. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Centurion Utama
Tradesman Connection Centrum of Trade Taurus Quantum Dynamics
0
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:00:00 -
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Wow, people on the forums really are stupid, if you have a good password and sufficient security measures in place you'll be reasonably safe as well as if you change your password regularly and scan your computers for keyloggers regularly. Plus even a full API key won't let anyone hack your account since it only gives your character name not your account name, so unless you are a complete ****** and use your character name for your account name you will be just fine. |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
0
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:01:00 -
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If they were using this solely to gank targets I say awesome....but room for accounts to be hacked is too great and is inappropriate |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
0
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:01:00 -
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Centurion Utama wrote:Wow, people on the forums really are stupid, if you have a good password and sufficient security measures in place you'll be reasonably safe as well as if you change your password regularly and scan your computers for keyloggers regularly. Plus even a full API key won't let anyone hack your account since it only gives your character name not your account name, so unless you are a complete ****** and use your character name for your account name you will be just fine.
You are clueless about how to hack an account - much easier then you think....API just lets you know what account is worth the effort. |
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4598
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:02:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:If they were using this solely to gank targets I say awesome....but room for accounts to be hacked is too great and is inappropriate Good thing, then, that no such room is offered by the API. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
319
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:02:00 -
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And I thought the vodka thread was bad. http://i.imgur.com/cOmMP.gif |
Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:04:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:you know that there are sites where once you have the API you can see where assets are in real time? I didn't know this.
Care to point me towards one?
this functionality would be really helpful to me but so far I have been subject to the asset list's 6 hours cache timer... |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
0
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:04:00 -
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If someone was actually to finish the sentence in a reasonable way...
"We need to know your complete list of assets because......."
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scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
0
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:05:00 -
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Vera Algaert wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:you know that there are sites where once you have the API you can see where assets are in real time? I didn't know this. Care to point me towards one? this functionality would be really helpful to me but so far I have been subject to the asset list's 6 hours cache timer...
http://api.eve-dev.com/index.html
realtime asset tracking
So with API you will know where that jump freighter full of plexes is....more so you would also know persons ship fitting.... |
Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:07:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:Vera Algaert wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:you know that there are sites where once you have the API you can see where assets are in real time? I didn't know this. Care to point me towards one? this functionality would be really helpful to me but so far I have been subject to the asset list's 6 hours cache timer... http://api.eve-dev.com/index.htmlrealtime asset tracking reading comprehension...
you only can get fresh asset data via API once every 6 hours - every application that uses the API is subject to this limitation.
of course you can retrieve the outdated data again and again and again... but it should be pretty obvious that this is in no way "real-time"
real-time asset tracking is impossible using the EVE API. |
Zimmy Zeta
Battle Force Industries Tactical Invader Syndicate
789
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:08:00 -
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What I don't understand: If you distrust them so much...why the hell do you want to join them? -.- |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3011
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:09:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:Centurion Utama wrote:Wow, people on the forums really are stupid, if you have a good password and sufficient security measures in place you'll be reasonably safe as well as if you change your password regularly and scan your computers for keyloggers regularly. Plus even a full API key won't let anyone hack your account since it only gives your character name not your account name, so unless you are a complete ****** and use your character name for your account name you will be just fine. You are clueless about how to hack an account - much easier then you think....API just lets you know what account is worth the effort.
my password I have used is so far... is 24 months running of a cracker still havent been broken and the computer tests about a million passwords an hour.
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scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
0
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:09:00 -
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You are wrong....read the site
ALSO still looking for answer as to why goons wants complete asset list |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4598
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:11:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:You are wrong....read the site Ok. GÇ£The above URL gives you output that is exactly what CCP gives youGÇ¥
I.e. subject to the 6h cache. Not real-time.
Quote:ALSO still looking for answer as to why goons wants complete asset list You've already been given it: for the same reason everyone else asks for it.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
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Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
21
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:12:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:You are wrong....read the site
ALSO still looking for answer as to why goons wants complete asset list I can assure you that I am right.
All that this caching proxy does is give me the old data again instead of returning a "try again in x hours" notice after the first try.
That's really useful when you have multiple applications that need to access an API page with long cache style (actually used a self-hosted API proxy for that reason when I still did trading) but it doesn't help at all with real-time tracking.
You can get fresh data once every 6 hours.
You are pushing the button to get the 0-6 hours old data again and again and again.... and tell yourself that the data you received is new and real-time.
But if you want to, go ahead and post a thread in technology lab - should clear the issue up fairly quickly. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1755
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:12:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:You are wrong....read the site
ALSO still looking for answer as to why goons wants complete asset list
We don't require members or allies to register for comms with their main characters. If anyone wants to use an alt on a different account, they're free to do so. andski for csm7~ |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
1
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:13:00 -
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I have been part of a lot of alliances no one else has asked for complete asset list.
There is no good reason anyone needs to see complete asset list.
PLEASE PROVIDE GOOD ANSWER AS TO WHY COMPLETE ASSET LIST IS REQUIRED....STOP TRYING TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1755
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:15:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:I have been part of a lot of alliances no one else has asked for complete asset list.
There is no good reason anyone needs to see complete asset list.
PLEASE PROVIDE GOOD ANSWER AS TO WHY COMPLETE ASSET LIST IS REQUIRED....STOP TRYING TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT
Why the hell do you care? You're not in GSF or the CFC. andski for csm7~ |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
1
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:15:00 -
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Andski wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:You are wrong....read the site
ALSO still looking for answer as to why goons wants complete asset list We don't require members or allies to register for comms with their main characters. If anyone wants to use an alt on a different account, they're free to do so.
this is a nonsense answer and is shady at best |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
1
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:16:00 -
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Andski wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:I have been part of a lot of alliances no one else has asked for complete asset list.
There is no good reason anyone needs to see complete asset list.
PLEASE PROVIDE GOOD ANSWER AS TO WHY COMPLETE ASSET LIST IS REQUIRED....STOP TRYING TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT Why the hell do you care? You're not in GSF or the CFC.
Carebears care...please stop trying to change subject...
and I am in the CFC what now?
Please provide valid reason why goons need complete list of my assets
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1755
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:17:00 -
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okay, if you're in the CFC just drop corp, nobody wants your pubbie ass around andski for csm7~ |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4598
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:19:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:I have been part of a lot of alliances no one else has asked for complete asset list. Good for you. That doesn't change the fact that there are quite a few who's asking for it.
Quote:There is no good reason anyone needs to see complete asset list. Sure there is. Your reluctance to give it up, alone, is a compelling reason.
Quote:PLEASE PROVIDE GOOD ANSWER AS TO WHY COMPLETE ASSET LIST IS REQUIRED. For the same reason as everyone else. Oh, and as noted, it's not required in any meaningful way. That doesn't really answer the question: why do you care? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
1
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:20:00 -
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lulz....
Please provide answer as to why goons needs anyones complete asset list...also please provide answer as to why resorting to grade school shaming techniques |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
1
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:22:00 -
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there is no reason you should be asking the question. you dont need to know where my set of alliance tourney ships are sitting...you dont need to know where my jump freighter full of stuff is...you dont need to know my ship fitting....i have never been part of any alliance that has wanted complete asset list...stop trying to change subject
please provide valid reason why you need to know list of all my assets...
if this is no big deal and you dont need it then why do you keep asking for it....
alliance do not need to know my assets
totally shady |
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
910
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:25:00 -
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One I can think of off the top of my head is to track theft and/or corp sponsored production.
Not that it really matters. The only relevant point in this conversation is this.
Some alliances ask for this, others don't. That is their business and no one else's... it's their corp/alliance.
If you don't like it, don't join. Pretty simple. Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4598
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:25:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:Please provide answer as to why goons needs anyones complete asset list. Done.
Quote:there is no reason you should be asking the question. you dont need to know where my set of alliance tourney ships are sitting...you dont need to know where my jump freighter full of stuff is...you dont need to know my ship fitting. Sure there is. Perhaps not if you have such irrelevant assets, but how will they know without checking?
Quote:i have never been part of any alliance that has wanted complete asset list. Irrelevant. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
910
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:27:00 -
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scooter Kondur wrote:I have seen these sort of thing happen in the former northern coalition...round up all the noobs with more isk then brains...and one by one all their accounts get hacked....so reality right now? no.... but experience can see where this is going...
Oh, before I forget... no you didn't. Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Finanche
Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance
1
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:28:00 -
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Oh my, you are quite the worry. As a recruiter I always get a full account wide API. Perhaps when you were joining you pubbie corps this was not an issue you came across but in larger more established corps it is the first port of call to checking the ligitamacy of a candidate.
"We require your full API Because...." -It allows us to see everything across your account spai. "We require your full API Because...." - It is an immediate indicator if a candidate has somthing to hide. "We require your full API Because...." - It allows us to see that your main income comes from ratting etc etc. "We require your full API Because...." - It enalbes us to see that you are as wealthy as you have stated. "We require your full API Because...." - ... You get the picture.
As someone who has provided this information to goons and who is likely far more wealthy than you will ever be in EVE as it appears your terrible at eve, I say this is not an issue at all.
If you want to be part of a major alliance, and it does not require you full API. Then I doubt you will find what your looking for. Lastly, it does not help someone to hack your account, and you have also been drinking too much and should probably stop listening to Alex Jones paranoia.
PS I am also terrible at EVE, but even I can see the sense in a Full, never expires API.
Regards |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3011
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:28:00 -
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You do know the things you have are liabilities right?
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Prince Kobol
176
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:29:00 -
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Why do you give a **** what the goons do.
The goons can do whatever the hell they like in their within their own alliance. It does not effect you in anyway unless you are one of those persons who is required to give their full API is unhappy about it but too scared to speak up on your main.
Either way get a grip
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scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
1
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:29:00 -
[57] - Quote
Ranger 1 wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:I have seen these sort of thing happen in the former northern coalition...round up all the noobs with more isk then brains...and one by one all their accounts get hacked....so reality right now? no.... but experience can see where this is going... Oh, before I forget... no you didn't.
Oh goons...please stop trying to to change the subject....no answer has been given...
Corp theft is not valid reason...other corps do it is not valid...and because i said so is not a valid reason...
these are all childish reasons at best....please try again |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
1
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:30:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Why do you give a **** what the goons do.
The goons can do whatever the hell they like in their within their own alliance. It does not effect you in anyway unless you are one of those persons who is required to give their full API is unhappy about it but too scared to speak up on your main.
Either way get a grip
Hacking accounts or selling the information to someone who will hack the account is a valid inter alliance tactic? |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1755
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 19:30:00 -
[59] - Quote
Finanche wrote: "We require your full API Because...." - ... Shut up and comply, this is a dictatorship, comply or get out
andski for csm7~ |
Glarealot
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
0
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 19:30:00 -
[60] - Quote
Andski wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:Why do goons need to see anyone's assets? Have yet to hear an answer that makes any sense. why do you care
Wait, that's your answer? 0_o I was waiting for you to bust out with some super reasonable response to put him in his place... instead you've just been acting super shady about the whole thing.
I used to hear some terribad rumors about goons back in my NC days. Surely you guys don't actually set up ambushes using alts for plex haulers in your own alliance... do you? >_> |
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Mars Theran
EVE Rogues EVE Rogues Alliance
102
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 19:31:00 -
[61] - Quote
Andski wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:No in order to join GSF coms you need to provide all this information. And anyways only reason to know complete asset list is to probe out the big fish and hack their account...or gank them...you know that there are sites where once you have the API you can see where assets are in real time? what do they put in the water these days? goddamn
There are a whole lot of members in goons. You don't think there is a hacker in there somewhere. And yes, the API can be used to verify assets and potential targets; and Teamspeak and Ventrilo can provide means to hack a players system afterwords. Pretty sure I've had it happen a few times.
Also, there doesn't have to be anything in the water. You're playing a game where nobody can trust anybody, and Goonswarm happens to be on the top of the list of those not to trust. If you can't trust someone in game, why would you trust them in real life? TIIP: The Incredible Invisible Poster |
Prince Kobol
176
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 19:32:00 -
[62] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:Prince Kobol wrote:Why do you give a **** what the goons do.
The goons can do whatever the hell they like in their within their own alliance. It does not effect you in anyway unless you are one of those persons who is required to give their full API is unhappy about it but too scared to speak up on your main.
Either way get a grip
Hacking accounts or selling the information to someone who will hack the account is a valid inter alliance tactic?
???
So are you saying that you are one of those people who is directly effected by this but is to scared to talk to somebody about it in the alliance so you have come to the forum to ***** and moan about it? |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
910
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 19:32:00 -
[63] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:I have seen these sort of thing happen in the former northern coalition...round up all the noobs with more isk then brains...and one by one all their accounts get hacked....so reality right now? no.... but experience can see where this is going... Oh, before I forget... no you didn't. Oh goons...please stop trying to to change the subject....no answer has been given... Corp theft is not valid reason...other corps do it is not valid...and because i said so is not a valid reason... these are all childish reasons at best....please try again
And thus endeth the thread..... Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Glarealot
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
0
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 19:33:00 -
[64] - Quote
Mars Theran wrote:Andski wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:No in order to join GSF coms you need to provide all this information. And anyways only reason to know complete asset list is to probe out the big fish and hack their account...or gank them...you know that there are sites where once you have the API you can see where assets are in real time? what do they put in the water these days? goddamn There are a whole lot of members in goons. You don't think there is a hacker in there somewhere. And yes, the API can be used to verify assets and potential targets; and Teamspeak and Ventrilo can provide means to hack a players system afterwords. Pretty sure I've had it happen a few times. Also, there doesn't have to be anything in the water. You're playing a game where nobody can trust anybody, and Goonswarm happens to be on the top of the list of those not to trust. If you can't trust someone in game, why would you trust them in real life?
Posting on this forum also provides a means to hack a player's system. Doesn't mean it will ever happen. Unless you get unlucky and have some hollywood CSI criminal superhacker that can somehow hook his computer to his brain and will it to do what otherwise should be virtually impossible. Then, sure... it could happen I guess. |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
3
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 19:34:00 -
[65] - Quote
Tippia wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:You are wrong....read the site Ok. GÇ£The above URL gives you output that is exactly what CCP gives youGÇ¥ I.e. subject to the 6h cache. Not real-time. Quote:ALSO still looking for answer as to why goons wants complete asset list You've already been given it: for the same reason everyone else asks for it.
6h stand corrected....but 6 hours is still enough...generally most ppl dont update assets ever so meh..close enough to real time....
anyways still changing subject here
....looking for reasons that anyone would need to see my asset list that dont insult my intelligence..... |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4601
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 19:35:00 -
[66] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:Oh goons...please stop trying to to change the subject....no answer has been given... Plenty have been given, but none of them align with your silly ramblings because they are just that: silly ramblings (with exactly zero connection to reality).
Quote:Corp theft is not valid reason. Don't be silly GÇö of course it is.
Quote:other corps do it is not valid. Sure it is GÇö it proves your assertions wrong, for one.
Quote:Hacking accounts or selling the information to someone who will hack the account is a valid inter alliance tactic? Good thing no-one is doing that, then, since the API doesn't let you.
Glarealot wrote:Wait, that's your answer? He's probably hoping the OP will admit to selling supers to the enemy. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Prince Kobol
176
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 19:35:00 -
[67] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:Tippia wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:You are wrong....read the site Ok. GÇ£The above URL gives you output that is exactly what CCP gives youGÇ¥ I.e. subject to the 6h cache. Not real-time. Quote:ALSO still looking for answer as to why goons wants complete asset list You've already been given it: for the same reason everyone else asks for it. 6h stand corrected....but 6 hours is still enough...generally most ppl dont update assets ever so meh..close enough to real time.... anyways still changing subject here ....looking for reasons that anyone would need to see my asset list that dont insult my intelligence.....
You have yet to answer my own question.
Does this directly effects you?
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1757
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 19:36:00 -
[68] - Quote
the reason we require asset access is so that worthless idiots like you would post dumb threads about it andski for csm7~ |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
3
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 19:38:00 -
[69] - Quote
Account hacking is a bad thing and effects everyone....no one should be taking that subject lightly...as it seems all the goons and alts seem to be doing....
if you are heading an alliance you should be beyond reproach on this subject...as caretakers..or even gankers...you should not be adopting a policy that is so obviously suspect to account hacking...find some other way to gank your noobs that doesnt look so suspect....
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
910
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 19:39:00 -
[70] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:Tippia wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:You are wrong....read the site Ok. GÇ£The above URL gives you output that is exactly what CCP gives youGÇ¥ I.e. subject to the 6h cache. Not real-time. Quote:ALSO still looking for answer as to why goons wants complete asset list You've already been given it: for the same reason everyone else asks for it. 6h stand corrected....but 6 hours is still enough...generally most ppl dont update assets ever so meh..close enough to real time.... anyways still changing subject here ....looking for reasons that anyone would need to see my asset list that dont insult my intelligence.....
No, you are looking for someone to agree with you... and anyone that has ever been in corp or alliance leadership understands that corp/alliance security is very shaky in EVE (likely by design).
It's not a question of whether you can trust a given corp or alliance (if you don't, don't join)... rather it's a question of whether or not they can trust YOU. They are fully justified in using whatever means at their disposal to try and weed out liars, corp thieves, slackers, leaches, and spies.
They have thousands of people to keep an eye on, but you only have one thing on your plate... do you want to join them or not. Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
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scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
3
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 19:40:00 -
[71] - Quote
Andski wrote:the reason we require asset access is so that worthless idiots like you would post dumb threads about it
mission accomplished...another childish reason to demand asset api info.....as are all the other corp theft is not valid...assuming guilt before theft even happens...give me a break...childish....my house my rules? i think not im not 15....
There has yet to be a good reason why anyone needs to see your complete list of assets
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4601
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 19:41:00 -
[72] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:Account hacking is a bad thing and effects everyone....no one should be taking that subject lightly...as it seems all the goons and alts seem to be doing.... The only one taking it less than seriously is you, with your wild fantasies about how it is done.
Quote:if you are heading an alliance you should be beyond reproach on this subject...as caretakers..or even gankers...you should not be adopting a policy that is so obviously suspect to account hacking. Good thing it doesn't do that, then.
Quote:corp theft is not valid Categorical statement is categorically false. Of course it's valid. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Messoroz
AQUILA INC 0ccupational Hazzard
144
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 19:42:00 -
[73] - Quote
Confirming the OP is going to be purged executed by doomsday from goonfleet the moment they find out who his main is.
If you do not like the API access requirements of goon fleet, then leave it, stop whining on forums that nobody important in goons actually reads. Try kugu for that or actually evemailing your corp directors and such, yadda yadda. Posting on these forums does nothing but show how silly you are to everyone and how you feel like being a special snowflake in an alliance. |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
3
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 19:42:00 -
[74] - Quote
Ranger 1 wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:Tippia wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:You are wrong....read the site Ok. GÇ£The above URL gives you output that is exactly what CCP gives youGÇ¥ I.e. subject to the 6h cache. Not real-time. Quote:ALSO still looking for answer as to why goons wants complete asset list You've already been given it: for the same reason everyone else asks for it. 6h stand corrected....but 6 hours is still enough...generally most ppl dont update assets ever so meh..close enough to real time.... anyways still changing subject here ....looking for reasons that anyone would need to see my asset list that dont insult my intelligence..... No, you are looking for someone to agree with you... and anyone that has ever been in corp or alliance leadership understands that corp/alliance security is very shaky in EVE (likely by design). It's not a question of whether you can trust a given corp or alliance (if you don't, don't join)... rather it's a question of whether or not they can trust YOU. They are fully justified in using whatever means at their disposal to try and weed out liars, corp thieves, slackers, leaches, and spies. They have thousands of people to keep an eye on, but you only have one thing on your plate... do you want to join them or not.
You make babysitting on the internet seemlike a chore....all of this is automated...once you have api you run check see who biggest fish are...you know who has what and who has what worth taking.....
next scenario is the ganker with your api...runs check...know your ship fitting and what you are carrying....they know your skill queue andd can easily eft your fit to see what you are capable of....very easy and very scary |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
910
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 19:43:00 -
[75] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:Andski wrote:the reason we require asset access is so that worthless idiots like you would post dumb threads about it mission accomplished...another childish reason to demand asset api info.....as are all the other corp theft is not valid...assuming guilt before theft even happens...give me a break...childish....my house my rules? i think not im not 15.... There has yet to be a good reason why anyone needs to see your complete list of assets
Their reason could be that it allows them to admire your choice in Nex wear, and if that is sufficient for themselves and their membership that is more than good enough. What you personally consider a good reason is completely irrelevant. Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
3
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 19:43:00 -
[76] - Quote
These are not fantasies...I do not believe in luck only calculated risk.....basically goons are at best gathering info to stack the deck in their favour at worst participating in account hacking |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4601
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 19:44:00 -
[77] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:You make babysitting on the internet seemlike a chore....all of this is automated. So you understand, then, why they want your API and why it has nothing to do with picking targets?
Quote:next scenario is the ganker with your api...runs check...know your ship fitting and what you are carrying GǪand finds nothing since the information is not real-time.
Quote:very easy and very scary No. Just paranoid (but I suppose that's scary too, in a way).
Quote:These are not fantasies Excellent. Then you can go ahead and prove it. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
3
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 19:45:00 -
[78] - Quote
Ranger 1 wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:Andski wrote:the reason we require asset access is so that worthless idiots like you would post dumb threads about it mission accomplished...another childish reason to demand asset api info.....as are all the other corp theft is not valid...assuming guilt before theft even happens...give me a break...childish....my house my rules? i think not im not 15.... There has yet to be a good reason why anyone needs to see your complete list of assets Their reason could be that it allows them to admire your choice in Nex wear, and if that is sufficient for themselves and their membership that is more than good enough. What you personally consider a good reason is completely irrelevant.
Again because daddy said so is not an answer....why does daddy say so is the reason we are looking for.....
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Messoroz
AQUILA INC 0ccupational Hazzard
144
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 19:46:00 -
[79] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:These are not fantasies...I do not believe in luck only calculated risk.....basically goons are at best gathering info to stack the deck in their favour at worst participating in account hacking
Why are you even trying to push this silly propoganda? You sound like a complete idiot with complete lack of knowledge of how anything works. You can't hack an account using the API, and you can't hack an account without having the actual username(which the API never reveals) and running a brute force attack for the next year which will get you blacklisted from the eve servers in the first 10 minutes.
Want to know what my corp requires or any major wormhole space entity? FULL API, EVERYTHING, if your entire API access is not enabled, you will never get into any such entity in wormhole space and they are just as capable as goons if they wanted to "1337 hax" like you dare imagine. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4601
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 19:46:00 -
[80] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:Again because daddy said so is not an answer. It is as long as you live under his roof. Don't want to do as he says? Stop living there.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4601
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 19:47:00 -
[81] - Quote
Also, yoink. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
19
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 19:47:00 -
[82] - Quote
Messoroz wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:These are not fantasies...I do not believe in luck only calculated risk.....basically goons are at best gathering info to stack the deck in their favour at worst participating in account hacking Why are you even trying to push this silly propoganda? You sound like a complete idiot with complete lack of knowledge of how anything works. You can't hack an account using the API, and you can't hack an account without having the actual username(which the API never reveals) and running a brute force attack for the next year which will get you blacklisted from the eve servers in the first 10 minutes.
You are an idiot...you use api to find who is worth the time and effort to hack...there are many methods available once you find the target...just because you dont know them doesnt mean they dont exist |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
910
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 19:47:00 -
[83] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:Andski wrote:the reason we require asset access is so that worthless idiots like you would post dumb threads about it mission accomplished...another childish reason to demand asset api info.....as are all the other corp theft is not valid...assuming guilt before theft even happens...give me a break...childish....my house my rules? i think not im not 15.... There has yet to be a good reason why anyone needs to see your complete list of assets Their reason could be that it allows them to admire your choice in Nex wear, and if that is sufficient for themselves and their membership that is more than good enough. What you personally consider a good reason is completely irrelevant. Again because daddy said so is not an answer....why does daddy say so is the reason we are looking for.....
Frankly, it's none of your business... although out of courtesy others have attempted to educate you. Emphasis on attempted. Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
19
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 19:48:00 -
[84] - Quote
Ranger 1 wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:Ranger 1 wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:Andski wrote:the reason we require asset access is so that worthless idiots like you would post dumb threads about it mission accomplished...another childish reason to demand asset api info.....as are all the other corp theft is not valid...assuming guilt before theft even happens...give me a break...childish....my house my rules? i think not im not 15.... There has yet to be a good reason why anyone needs to see your complete list of assets Their reason could be that it allows them to admire your choice in Nex wear, and if that is sufficient for themselves and their membership that is more than good enough. What you personally consider a good reason is completely irrelevant. Again because daddy said so is not an answer....why does daddy say so is the reason we are looking for..... Frankly, it's none of your business... although out of courtesy others have attempted to educate you. Emphasis on attempted.
LOL it is none of my business why someone wants to see my asset list....huh? |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8175
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 19:49:00 -
[85] - Quote
You want the truth, buddy? I'll lay it on you.
The reason why Goonswarm wants this information is shut up and comply, this alliance has never been a democracy. You either do what Solo Drakban requests of you or you get out because Solo controls the forums and if you do not understand why that is the most important thing then you don't need to be in Goonswarm. I am sure there are reasons with regards to game mechanics or with regards to an evil conspiracy regarding the reptilian shadow government and the Illuminati mind control lasers, but all of that is fluff. You do it because Solo Drakban put out a broadcast, and you do what Solo Drakban says to do or you find yourself a different Alliance. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM I am the Pubbie Whisperer |
Messoroz
AQUILA INC 0ccupational Hazzard
145
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 19:49:00 -
[86] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:Messoroz wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:These are not fantasies...I do not believe in luck only calculated risk.....basically goons are at best gathering info to stack the deck in their favour at worst participating in account hacking Why are you even trying to push this silly propoganda? You sound like a complete idiot with complete lack of knowledge of how anything works. You can't hack an account using the API, and you can't hack an account without having the actual username(which the API never reveals) and running a brute force attack for the next year which will get you blacklisted from the eve servers in the first 10 minutes. You are an idiot...you use api to find who is worth the time and effort to hack...there are many methods available once you find the target...just because you dont know them doesnt mean they dont exist
Right, so you can spam them with evemails linking to phishing links, these evemails exist ingame, if you get hacked afterwards, you petition and said attackers will be permabanned and erased from the game.
You can also spam their actual email accounts with phishing junk but you need to first get their email address, then if they are truely ******** you get them. They can still petition and get their account restored.
You can somehow infect them with a virus via email or something silly, again, single petition and the GMs FIX IT.
You can bruteforce their account password and somehow not get banned by the firewalls, again the GMs will hammer time the account.
If they use the account access to spy instead guess what! EVE records all access IPs and locations that you can see from account management. |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
19
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 19:51:00 -
[87] - Quote
Lyris Nairn wrote:You want the truth, buddy? I'll lay it on you.
The reason why Goonswarm wants this information is shut up and comply, this alliance has never been a democracy. You either do what Solo Drakban requests of you or you get out because Solo controls the forums and if you do not understand why that is the most important thing then you don't need to be in Goonswarm. I am sure there are reasons with regards to game mechanics or with regards to an evil conspiracy regarding the reptilian shadow government and the Illuminati mind control lasers, but all of that is fluff. You do it because Solo Drakban put out a broadcast, and you do what Solo Drakban says to do or you find yourself a different Alliance.
still not valid answer...because daddy says so is not valid answer |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4601
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 19:51:00 -
[88] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:You are an idiot...you use api to find who is worth the time and effort to hack...there are many methods available once you find the target...just because you dont know them doesnt mean they dont exist So prove it rather than spout what can only be described as hysterical nonsense. So far, pretty much everything you've said has been trivially proven false. Care to improve on that statistic?
Quote:LOL it is none of my business why someone wants to see my asset list....huh? Yup. What they want is entirely irrelevant GÇö what matters is whether or not you want to go along.
Quote:still not valid answer. Try arguing your case instead of making unfounded categorical statements. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
19
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 19:52:00 -
[89] - Quote
Messoroz wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:Messoroz wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:These are not fantasies...I do not believe in luck only calculated risk.....basically goons are at best gathering info to stack the deck in their favour at worst participating in account hacking Why are you even trying to push this silly propoganda? You sound like a complete idiot with complete lack of knowledge of how anything works. You can't hack an account using the API, and you can't hack an account without having the actual username(which the API never reveals) and running a brute force attack for the next year which will get you blacklisted from the eve servers in the first 10 minutes. You are an idiot...you use api to find who is worth the time and effort to hack...there are many methods available once you find the target...just because you dont know them doesnt mean they dont exist Right, so you can spam them with evemails linking to phishing links, these evemails exist ingame, if you get hacked afterwards, you petition and said attackers will be permabanned and erased from the game. You can also spam their actual email accounts with phishing junk but you need to first get their email address, then if they are truely ******** you get them. They can still petition and get their account restored. You can somehow infect them with a virus via email or something silly, again, single petition and the GMs FIX IT. You can bruteforce their account password and somehow not get banned by the firewalls, again the GMs will hammer time the account. If they use the account access to spy instead guess what! EVE records all access IPs and locations that you can see from account management.
Your 100 billion of assets gets sold for 5 billion...guess what you get back...5 billion...it is called asset laundering..... |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
19
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 19:53:00 -
[90] - Quote
Tippia wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:You are an idiot...you use api to find who is worth the time and effort to hack...there are many methods available once you find the target...just because you dont know them doesnt mean they dont exist So prove it rather than spout what can only be described as hysterical nonsense. So far, pretty much everything you've said has been trivially proven false. Care to improve on that statistic? Quote:LOL it is none of my business why someone wants to see my asset list....huh? Yup. What they want is entirely irrelevant GÇö what matters is whether or not you want to go along.
you havent added anything to the discussion of relevance so nothing to disprove...only answer so far is because i said so...that is not a valid answer
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Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
334
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 19:53:00 -
[91] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:You want the truth, buddy? I'll lay it on you.
The reason why Goonswarm wants this information is shut up and comply, this alliance has never been a democracy. You either do what Solo Drakban requests of you or you get out because Solo controls the forums and if you do not understand why that is the most important thing then you don't need to be in Goonswarm. I am sure there are reasons with regards to game mechanics or with regards to an evil conspiracy regarding the reptilian shadow government and the Illuminati mind control lasers, but all of that is fluff. You do it because Solo Drakban put out a broadcast, and you do what Solo Drakban says to do or you find yourself a different Alliance. still not valid answer...because daddy says so is not valid answer Actually it is a valid answer. Solo Drakban is basically the lifeblood of the GoonSwarm Federation. Don't want to do what he says? Get bent. |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
540
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 19:53:00 -
[92] - Quote
A corp/alliance doesn't need a reason for requiring full API info. Its their policy, they can have it as they like it.
While you look for a "good" reason (which btw is too subjective, I feel countering corp theft is a perfect reason), they continue as they always have.
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Messoroz
AQUILA INC 0ccupational Hazzard
145
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Posted - 2012.01.28 19:54:00 -
[93] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:Messoroz wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:Messoroz wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:These are not fantasies...I do not believe in luck only calculated risk.....basically goons are at best gathering info to stack the deck in their favour at worst participating in account hacking Why are you even trying to push this silly propoganda? You sound like a complete idiot with complete lack of knowledge of how anything works. You can't hack an account using the API, and you can't hack an account without having the actual username(which the API never reveals) and running a brute force attack for the next year which will get you blacklisted from the eve servers in the first 10 minutes. You are an idiot...you use api to find who is worth the time and effort to hack...there are many methods available once you find the target...just because you dont know them doesnt mean they dont exist Right, so you can spam them with evemails linking to phishing links, these evemails exist ingame, if you get hacked afterwards, you petition and said attackers will be permabanned and erased from the game. You can also spam their actual email accounts with phishing junk but you need to first get their email address, then if they are truely ******** you get them. They can still petition and get their account restored. You can somehow infect them with a virus via email or something silly, again, single petition and the GMs FIX IT. You can bruteforce their account password and somehow not get banned by the firewalls, again the GMs will hammer time the account. If they use the account access to spy instead guess what! EVE records all access IPs and locations that you can see from account management. Your 100 billion of assets gets sold for 5 billion...guess what you get back...5 billion...it is called asset laundering.....
If you have 100billion of assets that isn't locked down in an alt corp, you are doing it wrong. |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
19
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 19:54:00 -
[94] - Quote
Karadion wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:You want the truth, buddy? I'll lay it on you.
The reason why Goonswarm wants this information is shut up and comply, this alliance has never been a democracy. You either do what Solo Drakban requests of you or you get out because Solo controls the forums and if you do not understand why that is the most important thing then you don't need to be in Goonswarm. I am sure there are reasons with regards to game mechanics or with regards to an evil conspiracy regarding the reptilian shadow government and the Illuminati mind control lasers, but all of that is fluff. You do it because Solo Drakban put out a broadcast, and you do what Solo Drakban says to do or you find yourself a different Alliance. still not valid answer...because daddy says so is not valid answer Actually it is a valid answer. Solo Drakban is basically the lifeblood of the GoonSwarm Federation. Don't want to do what he says? Get bent.
not a valid answer...luring noobs into your van with promises of sweet candy is punishable under the law |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8175
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 19:55:00 -
[95] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:You want the truth, buddy? I'll lay it on you.
The reason why Goonswarm wants this information is shut up and comply, this alliance has never been a democracy. You either do what Solo Drakban requests of you or you get out because Solo controls the forums and if you do not understand why that is the most important thing then you don't need to be in Goonswarm. I am sure there are reasons with regards to game mechanics or with regards to an evil conspiracy regarding the reptilian shadow government and the Illuminati mind control lasers, but all of that is fluff. You do it because Solo Drakban put out a broadcast, and you do what Solo Drakban says to do or you find yourself a different Alliance. still not valid answer...because daddy says so is not valid answer It is the only answer that matters, whether you think it valid or not. This is not a democratic debate. This is an authoritarian regime telling you to put up or shut up. If you don't put up, you'll be forcibly shut up. Those are your options.
Deal with it. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM I am the Pubbie Whisperer |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
19
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 19:55:00 -
[96] - Quote
Corina Jarr wrote:A corp/alliance doesn't need a reason for requiring full API info. Its their policy, they can have it as they like it.
While you look for a "good" reason (which btw is too subjective, I feel countering corp theft is a perfect reason), they continue as they always have.
if you leave assets you just stole on an alt....you are doing it wrong |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
910
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 19:55:00 -
[97] - Quote
You have to admit, this isn't a bad troll, although the incessant repeating of points already proven wrong was a bit overly repetitive. He almost blew it when he started lying about NC policies, claimed to have never been in an alliance that asked for such information, while alluding that he indeed has/is in such an alliance.
Needs a bit of polish. 3/10 Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4601
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 19:55:00 -
[98] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:you havent added anything to the discussion of relevance so nothing to disprove...only answer so far is because i said so...that is not a valid answer Ok. So just because you say it isn't a valid answer doesn't make it an invalid answer.
See how that works? According to you, your dismissal of the argument is invalid. How about you provide a valid answer instead?
Argue your case instead of spewing nonsense. Explain why it's not valid. Prove your case.
So far, everything you've said has been entirely false. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Messoroz
AQUILA INC 0ccupational Hazzard
145
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 19:55:00 -
[99] - Quote
Lyris Nairn wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:You want the truth, buddy? I'll lay it on you.
The reason why Goonswarm wants this information is shut up and comply, this alliance has never been a democracy. You either do what Solo Drakban requests of you or you get out because Solo controls the forums and if you do not understand why that is the most important thing then you don't need to be in Goonswarm. I am sure there are reasons with regards to game mechanics or with regards to an evil conspiracy regarding the reptilian shadow government and the Illuminati mind control lasers, but all of that is fluff. You do it because Solo Drakban put out a broadcast, and you do what Solo Drakban says to do or you find yourself a different Alliance. still not valid answer...because daddy says so is not valid answer It is the only answer that matters, whether you think it valid or not. This is not a democratic debate. This is an authoritarian regime telling you to put up or shut up. If you don't put up, you'll be forcibly shut up. Those are your options. Deal with it.
There's a 99.78% chance you will find out the OP has been laundering tech goo from a secret tech moon. |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
19
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 19:56:00 -
[100] - Quote
Lyris Nairn wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:You want the truth, buddy? I'll lay it on you.
The reason why Goonswarm wants this information is shut up and comply, this alliance has never been a democracy. You either do what Solo Drakban requests of you or you get out because Solo controls the forums and if you do not understand why that is the most important thing then you don't need to be in Goonswarm. I am sure there are reasons with regards to game mechanics or with regards to an evil conspiracy regarding the reptilian shadow government and the Illuminati mind control lasers, but all of that is fluff. You do it because Solo Drakban put out a broadcast, and you do what Solo Drakban says to do or you find yourself a different Alliance. still not valid answer...because daddy says so is not valid answer It is the only answer that matters, whether you think it valid or not. This is not a democratic debate. This is an authoritarian regime telling you to put up or shut up. If you don't put up, you'll be forcibly shut up. Those are your options. Deal with it.
You can not silence truth seekers...kkeep trying....why does daddy want to see my assets? |
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Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
334
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 19:56:00 -
[101] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:Karadion wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:You want the truth, buddy? I'll lay it on you.
The reason why Goonswarm wants this information is shut up and comply, this alliance has never been a democracy. You either do what Solo Drakban requests of you or you get out because Solo controls the forums and if you do not understand why that is the most important thing then you don't need to be in Goonswarm. I am sure there are reasons with regards to game mechanics or with regards to an evil conspiracy regarding the reptilian shadow government and the Illuminati mind control lasers, but all of that is fluff. You do it because Solo Drakban put out a broadcast, and you do what Solo Drakban says to do or you find yourself a different Alliance. still not valid answer...because daddy says so is not valid answer Actually it is a valid answer. Solo Drakban is basically the lifeblood of the GoonSwarm Federation. Don't want to do what he says? Get bent. not a valid answer...luring noobs into your van with promises of sweet candy is punishable under the law Again it still is. For example we've had traitors that were building titans for the enemies and we caught them beforehand based on the assets that they've had and wondering what they were doing with it. They said they were building titans and we asked for who which in turn their answer was of course "GoonSwarm Federation". Later down the road, they had one in the oven and their customer was not a GSF member but one of the enemy. So naturally we blew up their CSAA and booted them out of the alliance. So in turn, it becomes a great tool to use to weed out spies and traitors. |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
19
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 19:57:00 -
[102] - Quote
Ranger 1 wrote:You have to admit, this isn't a bad troll, although the incessant repeating of points already proven wrong was a bit overly repetitive. He almost blew it when he started lying about NC policies, claimed to have never been in an alliance that asked for such information, while alluding that he indeed has/is in such an alliance.
Needs a bit of polish. 3/10
good job trying to change subject....
Please daddy tell us what it is you do with all my account information?
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Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8175
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 19:58:00 -
[103] - Quote
Tippia wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:you havent added anything to the discussion of relevance so nothing to disprove...only answer so far is because i said so...that is not a valid answer Ok. So just because you say it isn't a valid answer doesn't make it an invalid answer. See how that works? According to you, your dismissal of the argument is invalid. How about you provide a valid answer instead? Argue your case instead of spewing nonsense. Explain why it's not valid. Prove your case. So far, everything you've said has been entirely false. I usually like your posts, but I disagree with this one. Encouraging him to argue his case is useless. It does not matter one iota what he says on the official EVE Online forums. If he were arguing his case to The Mittani or Solo Drakban, then there would exist a hypothetical possibility that the rule could be changed were he sufficiently convincing. He is not doing that. He is talking to Bob about something that Steve did, as though Bob somehow has the ability to do something about it. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM I am the Pubbie Whisperer |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
19
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 19:59:00 -
[104] - Quote
Karadion wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:Karadion wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:You want the truth, buddy? I'll lay it on you.
The reason why Goonswarm wants this information is shut up and comply, this alliance has never been a democracy. You either do what Solo Drakban requests of you or you get out because Solo controls the forums and if you do not understand why that is the most important thing then you don't need to be in Goonswarm. I am sure there are reasons with regards to game mechanics or with regards to an evil conspiracy regarding the reptilian shadow government and the Illuminati mind control lasers, but all of that is fluff. You do it because Solo Drakban put out a broadcast, and you do what Solo Drakban says to do or you find yourself a different Alliance. still not valid answer...because daddy says so is not valid answer Actually it is a valid answer. Solo Drakban is basically the lifeblood of the GoonSwarm Federation. Don't want to do what he says? Get bent. not a valid answer...luring noobs into your van with promises of sweet candy is punishable under the law Again it still is. For example we've had traitors that were building titans for the enemies and we caught them beforehand based on the assets that they've had and wondering what they were doing with it. They said they were building titans and we asked for who which in turn their answer was of course "GoonSwarm Federation". Later down the road, they had one in the oven and their customer was not a GSF member but one of the enemy. So naturally we blew up their CSAA and booted them out of the alliance. So in turn, it becomes a great tool to use to weed out spies and traitors.
If you knew the titan was being built for the enemy you would have know it was being built by the fact the system had the upgrades in place to build it...and you would have known who the buyer was....fail logic
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4601
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 19:59:00 -
[105] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:You can not silence truth seekers...kkeep trying....why does daddy want to see my assets? Because you're living in his basement and he doesn't want to be screwed over by your hydroponic gardenGǪ
Quote:and you would have known who the buyer was....fail logic Yes, that was indeed fail logic GÇö nothing about the buyer would be known just from the ship being built. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
19
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 19:59:00 -
[106] - Quote
Tippia wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:You can not silence truth seekers...kkeep trying....why does daddy want to see my assets? Because you're living in his basement and he doesn't want to be screwed over by your hydroponic gardenGǪ
nice try to change subject....goons why do you need to see everyones complete list of assets? |
Sarmatiko
499
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 19:59:00 -
[107] - Quote
This is what happens when Goons start recruiting random pubbies to alliance corps without API checks. |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8175
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 19:59:00 -
[108] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:You want the truth, buddy? I'll lay it on you.
The reason why Goonswarm wants this information is shut up and comply, this alliance has never been a democracy. You either do what Solo Drakban requests of you or you get out because Solo controls the forums and if you do not understand why that is the most important thing then you don't need to be in Goonswarm. I am sure there are reasons with regards to game mechanics or with regards to an evil conspiracy regarding the reptilian shadow government and the Illuminati mind control lasers, but all of that is fluff. You do it because Solo Drakban put out a broadcast, and you do what Solo Drakban says to do or you find yourself a different Alliance. still not valid answer...because daddy says so is not valid answer It is the only answer that matters, whether you think it valid or not. This is not a democratic debate. This is an authoritarian regime telling you to put up or shut up. If you don't put up, you'll be forcibly shut up. Those are your options. Deal with it. You can not silence truth seekers...kkeep trying....why does daddy want to see my assets? He wants to see it because if you don't let him then he will kick you out of his house, so do what he says. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM I am the Pubbie Whisperer |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
910
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 19:59:00 -
[109] - Quote
Quote:You can not silence truth seekers...kkeep trying....why does daddy want to see my assets ?
BECAUSE HE"S YOUR FATHER!!!! And as long as you live under his roof, you'll do as he says!
I believe this is the time honored, and strangely relevant, response. Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
334
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:00:00 -
[110] - Quote
There is no god but Solo Drakban and The Mittani is his messenger. |
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Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
540
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:00:00 -
[111] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:You want the truth, buddy? I'll lay it on you.
The reason why Goonswarm wants this information is shut up and comply, this alliance has never been a democracy. You either do what Solo Drakban requests of you or you get out because Solo controls the forums and if you do not understand why that is the most important thing then you don't need to be in Goonswarm. I am sure there are reasons with regards to game mechanics or with regards to an evil conspiracy regarding the reptilian shadow government and the Illuminati mind control lasers, but all of that is fluff. You do it because Solo Drakban put out a broadcast, and you do what Solo Drakban says to do or you find yourself a different Alliance. still not valid answer...because daddy says so is not valid answer It is the only answer that matters, whether you think it valid or not. This is not a democratic debate. This is an authoritarian regime telling you to put up or shut up. If you don't put up, you'll be forcibly shut up. Those are your options. Deal with it. You can not silence truth seekers...kkeep trying....why does daddy want to see my assets? Because as the one in charge it is his right to. If you don't like it, you leave.
Note: no I am not a Goon I am just making general assumptions based on other's posts.
Just like in any dictatorship, if you don't like what "daddy" says, you leave... or die. |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
19
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:00:00 -
[112] - Quote
Daddy please tell us why you need to see where all my assets are..... |
Messoroz
AQUILA INC 0ccupational Hazzard
145
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:00:00 -
[113] - Quote
Sarmatiko wrote:This is what happens when Goons start recruiting random pubbies to alliance corps without API checks.
Not too big of an issue, they'll purge the pubbie when he doesn't hand over the proper key.
Quote:Daddy please tell us why you need to see where all my assets are.....
To make sure you aren't a traitorous dickwad, that has been said many times. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4601
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:01:00 -
[114] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:nice try to change subject. So why don't you stop doing it and accept the fact that I just answered your question in full. You made the GÇ£daddy says soGÇ¥ simile GÇö you have to live with it.
Quote:goons why do you need to see everyones complete list of assets? For the reason explained above. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8175
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:01:00 -
[115] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote: If you knew the titan was being built for the enemy you would have know it was being built by the fact the system had the upgrades in place to build it...and you would have known who the buyer was....fail logic
You apparently didn't understand his post, or you don't understand how supercapital sales work, or both. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM I am the Pubbie Whisperer |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
19
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:01:00 -
[116] - Quote
Corina Jarr wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:You want the truth, buddy? I'll lay it on you.
The reason why Goonswarm wants this information is shut up and comply, this alliance has never been a democracy. You either do what Solo Drakban requests of you or you get out because Solo controls the forums and if you do not understand why that is the most important thing then you don't need to be in Goonswarm. I am sure there are reasons with regards to game mechanics or with regards to an evil conspiracy regarding the reptilian shadow government and the Illuminati mind control lasers, but all of that is fluff. You do it because Solo Drakban put out a broadcast, and you do what Solo Drakban says to do or you find yourself a different Alliance. still not valid answer...because daddy says so is not valid answer It is the only answer that matters, whether you think it valid or not. This is not a democratic debate. This is an authoritarian regime telling you to put up or shut up. If you don't put up, you'll be forcibly shut up. Those are your options. Deal with it. You can not silence truth seekers...kkeep trying....why does daddy want to see my assets? Because as the one in charge it is his right to. If you don't like it, you leave. Note: no I am not a Goon I am just making general assumptions based on other's posts. Just like in any dictatorship, if you don't like what "daddy" says, you leave... or die.
He can demand anything he likes...i want to know why he wants this information and what he does with it...who else uses it and how is it securely held?
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1762
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:01:00 -
[117] - Quote
You don't 'need' a good enough answer, all you need to know is that it's required and if you don't like it, tough. andski for csm7~ |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
19
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:02:00 -
[118] - Quote
Andski wrote:You don't 'need' a good enough answer, all you need to know is that it's required and if you don't like it, tough.
I assure you ...i need an answer |
Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
334
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:02:00 -
[119] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:If you knew the titan was being built for the enemy you would have know it was being built by the fact the system had the upgrades in place to build it...and you would have known who the buyer was....fail logic
Uhhh wow you are really daft, are you? We don't care if our members makes titans / supers as long they sell it to our friends and members. Only the sov holder & people with authority to put down upgrades can put in the upgrades only. The corporation I was speaking about had none of them but they can put up their own CSAA in their own towers. Fail logic is on you buddy. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4601
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:02:00 -
[120] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:i want to know why he wants this information and what he does with it. What you want is irrelevant GÇö what matters is if you accept it or not.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
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scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
19
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:02:00 -
[121] - Quote
Lyris Nairn wrote:scooter Kondur wrote: If you knew the titan was being built for the enemy you would have know it was being built by the fact the system had the upgrades in place to build it...and you would have known who the buyer was....fail logic
You apparently didn't understand his post, or you don't understand how supercapital sales work, or both.
I do...and if you do...and stop trying to confuse the subject...you dont need to have asset list to know if someone is selling supers to enemies...
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Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8175
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:02:00 -
[122] - Quote
Karadion wrote:There is no god but Solo Drakban and The Mittani is his messenger. There is no god but Solo Drakban and The Mittani is his messenger. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM I am the Pubbie Whisperer |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
910
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:03:00 -
[123] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:Andski wrote:You don't 'need' a good enough answer, all you need to know is that it's required and if you don't like it, tough. I assure you ...i need an answer
No, not so much. Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
19
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:04:00 -
[124] - Quote
Lyris Nairn wrote:Karadion wrote:There is no god but Solo Drakban and The Mittani is his messenger. There is no god but Solo Drakban and The Mittani is his messenger.
as leaders you have a duty to ensure that the information collected will not be used to hack accounts....how can you offer this assurance? |
Doris Dents
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
6
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:04:00 -
[125] - Quote
Solo Drakban wants your stuff! |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4601
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:04:00 -
[126] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:and stop trying to confuse the subject He didn't. You're just being confused by how the game works, which is why you've dreamed up this unproven scenario of yours.
Quote:as leaders you have a duty No they don't. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8175
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:04:00 -
[127] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:Corina Jarr wrote:
Just like in any dictatorship, if you don't like what "daddy" says, you leave... or die.
He can demand anything he likes...i want to know why he wants this information and what he does with it...who else uses it and how is it securely held? What you want is irrelevant.
There is no god but Solo Drakban and The Mittani is his messenger. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM I am the Pubbie Whisperer |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
910
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:04:00 -
[128] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:Karadion wrote:There is no god but Solo Drakban and The Mittani is his messenger. There is no god but Solo Drakban and The Mittani is his messenger. as leaders you have a duty to ensure that the information collected will not be used to hack accounts....how can you offer this assurance?
As has been pointed out, this information cannot be used to hack accounts. Moot point. Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
2bhammered
Perkone Caldari State
20
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Posted - 2012.01.28 20:05:00 -
[129] - Quote
Nova Fox wrote:You also should know beetter that goons do not recruit ingame.
They do.
Also I am sure they are implementing it just because they are paranoid, people in EVE Online are far too paranoid, so scared of their epeen they will soon use webcams to make sure no one sets up a trap and make them lose a POS...
It is more risky to hand out full account details, as in account name, with account name and email adress it is very easy to later hack,but I doubt goons would ever hack but in general never hand out account name, ever. Most WoW idiots published account name, email and char name than act surprise when they got hacked and now Blizzard needs photographs with todays newspaper and your face next to ones passport and voice verification and be the creator of the account in order to access account if you lost PW etc. Because of those morons handing out all details except a simple PW thinking they are safe. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1762
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:05:00 -
[130] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:Karadion wrote:There is no god but Solo Drakban and The Mittani is his messenger. There is no god but Solo Drakban and The Mittani is his messenger. as leaders you have a duty to ensure that the information collected will not be used to hack accounts....how can you offer this assurance?
None of us are directors or leadership of any sort. We just don't care. andski for csm7~ |
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Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8175
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:05:00 -
[131] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:Karadion wrote:There is no god but Solo Drakban and The Mittani is his messenger. There is no god but Solo Drakban and The Mittani is his messenger. as leaders you have a duty to ensure that the information collected will not be used to hack accounts....how can you offer this assurance? I am not a leader and neither is Karadion.
There is no god but Solo Drakban and The Mittani is his messenger. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM I am the Pubbie Whisperer |
Lady Starfire
State War Academy Caldari State
18
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Posted - 2012.01.28 20:05:00 -
[132] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:scooter Kondur wrote: If you knew the titan was being built for the enemy you would have know it was being built by the fact the system had the upgrades in place to build it...and you would have known who the buyer was....fail logic
You apparently didn't understand his post, or you don't understand how supercapital sales work, or both. I do...and if you do...and stop trying to confuse the subject...you dont need to have asset list to know if someone is selling supers to enemies... SCOOTER KONDUR WHY DID YOU LEAVE THE ONE ARM LIBERATION FRONT IN THE FIGHT AGAINST THE TWO ARMED MENACE? YOU WERE THE SECRET TWO ARM HELPING US, WHY DID YOU TURN ON US? |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
540
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:05:00 -
[133] - Quote
Andski wrote:You don't 'need' a good enough answer, all you need to know is that it's required and if you don't like it, tough. This.
Also, as you dismiss perfectly good and reasonable answers, I have placed you in the "fail toll" bin. |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
19
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:06:00 -
[134] - Quote
Ranger 1 wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:Karadion wrote:There is no god but Solo Drakban and The Mittani is his messenger. There is no god but Solo Drakban and The Mittani is his messenger. as leaders you have a duty to ensure that the information collected will not be used to hack accounts....how can you offer this assurance? As has been pointed out, this information cannot be used to hack accounts. Moot point.
as i have pointed out this information can be used to filter through to accounts worth the time and risk to be hacked.... |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8175
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:06:00 -
[135] - Quote
Doris Dents wrote:Solo Drakban wants your stuff! Then his stuff Solo Drakban shall have.
There is no god but Solo Drakban and The Mittani is his messenger. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM I am the Pubbie Whisperer |
Naynomi
Vorkuta Inc Goonswarm Federation
2
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:06:00 -
[136] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:Karadion wrote:There is no god but Solo Drakban and The Mittani is his messenger. There is no god but Solo Drakban and The Mittani is his messenger. as leaders you have a duty to ensure that the information collected will not be used to hack accounts....how can you offer this assurance?
You're a dipshit.
Stop posting, thanks. |
Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
334
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:06:00 -
[137] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:Karadion wrote:There is no god but Solo Drakban and The Mittani is his messenger. There is no god but Solo Drakban and The Mittani is his messenger. as leaders you have a duty to ensure that the information collected will not be used to hack accounts....how can you offer this assurance? I'm too incompetent to become a leader. They don't allow deaf people to manage members. They're audist!
There is no god but Solo Drakban and The Mittani is his messenger. |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
19
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:06:00 -
[138] - Quote
Corina Jarr wrote:Andski wrote:You don't 'need' a good enough answer, all you need to know is that it's required and if you don't like it, tough. This. Also, as you dismiss perfectly good and reasonable answers, I have placed you in the "fail toll" bin.
Answers that accuse one of being fail corp thief are not relevant...answers that tell me to do it because i said so are not reasons |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
19
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:07:00 -
[139] - Quote
Naynomi wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:Karadion wrote:There is no god but Solo Drakban and The Mittani is his messenger. There is no god but Solo Drakban and The Mittani is his messenger. as leaders you have a duty to ensure that the information collected will not be used to hack accounts....how can you offer this assurance? You're a dipshit. Stop posting, thanks.
so because i am a dipshit others are not owed the courtesy of leadership to not have their account information misused? |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4601
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:09:00 -
[140] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:as i have pointed out this information can be used to filter through to accounts worth the time and risk to be hacked.... Prove it.
Quote:Answers that accuse one of being fail corp thief are not relevant...answers that tell me to do it because i said so are not reasons Of course they are, by your own logic. Just because you don't like the answers doesn't mean they don't answer your question in full.
If you don't like the answer, you simply choose not to comply. Why is that so hard for you? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
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Sirane Elrek
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
22
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:09:00 -
[141] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:Naynomi wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:Karadion wrote:There is no god but Solo Drakban and The Mittani is his messenger. There is no god but Solo Drakban and The Mittani is his messenger. as leaders you have a duty to ensure that the information collected will not be used to hack accounts....how can you offer this assurance? You're a dipshit. Stop posting, thanks. so because i am a dipshit others are not owed the courtesy of leadership to not have their account information misused? god damn it shut up either you are comfortable giving out your api and everything's fine or you aren't and then you should go and get a different alliance because this **** isn't up to debate and repeating your ******** point doesn't make it any less worthless |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
911
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:09:00 -
[142] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:Corina Jarr wrote:Andski wrote:You don't 'need' a good enough answer, all you need to know is that it's required and if you don't like it, tough. This. Also, as you dismiss perfectly good and reasonable answers, I have placed you in the "fail toll" bin. Answers that accuse one of being fail corp thief are not relevant...answers that tell me to do it because i said so are not reasons
You are going to have to try harder to keep boosting the page count on this one, you are getting too repetitive to hold peoples amused interest much longer.
I would suggest making a few more false accusations, and a couple of really juicy personal horror story lies, that should allow you to milk at least 4 more pages. Also, I can kill you with my brain. |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
540
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:10:00 -
[143] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:Naynomi wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:Karadion wrote:There is no god but Solo Drakban and The Mittani is his messenger. There is no god but Solo Drakban and The Mittani is his messenger. as leaders you have a duty to ensure that the information collected will not be used to hack accounts....how can you offer this assurance? You're a dipshit. Stop posting, thanks. so because i am a dipshit others are not owed the courtesy of leadership to not have their account information misused? There is no courtesy of leadership under a dictator. They are courteous by not blowing you up.
Go back in time, go to Iraq, and ask ****** why he decided to do certain things. Edit: really CCP, its just a name. |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8179
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:12:00 -
[144] - Quote
They have to stop Hussein from Saddamizing their EVE Online. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM I am the Pubbie Whisperer |
2bhammered
Perkone Caldari State
20
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:12:00 -
[145] - Quote
Ranger 1 wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:Karadion wrote:There is no god but Solo Drakban and The Mittani is his messenger. There is no god but Solo Drakban and The Mittani is his messenger. as leaders you have a duty to ensure that the information collected will not be used to hack accounts....how can you offer this assurance? As has been pointed out, this information cannot be used to hack accounts. Moot point.
You are very, very wrong.
Giving people your account name does increase chances of being hacked, same with emails, you can not get away from that.
But I do not think Goons would hack you nor do I think one needs to worry, question is rather why waste the time? API sucks, another tool for control freaks and geeks to try and control other peoples life. Besides, I know of more spies in goonscurrently than goons themselves do by simple power of observing my fellow gamer in ts/mumble and ingame.
Real reason is=no one can rat in delve while OP is going and we need to check your ISK accounts |
Ira Theos
Viziam Amarr Empire
31
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:13:00 -
[146] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:These are not fantasies...I do not believe in luck only calculated risk.....basically goons are at best gathering info to stack the deck in their favour at worst participating in account hacking
Hey Scooter, Sorry, but I have to agree with Andski on this one.
If you have a problem with the fact that the Goons are involved in massive Botting and RMT Operations in Eve and on the web, then your obvious solution is to drop your membership from them. They are going to drop you before they change their accounting methods. |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
19
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:14:00 -
[147] - Quote
I am repeating this until there is a legitimate answer...why do goons need to see complete asset list..ganking is admirable...great social engineering.....if it is to aid in the hacking of others accounts....not cool...dictatorships can still offer transparency...what is it goon leadership is trying to hide? |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4605
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:15:00 -
[148] - Quote
2bhammered wrote:You are very, very wrong.
Giving people your account name does increase chances of being hacked, same with emails, you can not get away from that. GǪexcept that they're not asking for that, so he's actually very very right.
Quote:Real reason is=no one can rat in delve while OP is going and we need to check your ISK accounts I'm beginning to suspect that CCP needs to check the OP's accountsGǪ
scooter Kondur wrote:I am repeating this until there is a legitimate answer So why haven't you stopped? A plethora of legitimate answers have been given and you've proven utterly incapable of arguing why they're not legitimate. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Naynomi
Vorkuta Inc Goonswarm Federation
3
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:15:00 -
[149] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:Naynomi wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:Karadion wrote:There is no god but Solo Drakban and The Mittani is his messenger. There is no god but Solo Drakban and The Mittani is his messenger. as leaders you have a duty to ensure that the information collected will not be used to hack accounts....how can you offer this assurance? You're a dipshit. Stop posting, thanks. so because i am a dipshit others are not owed the courtesy of leadership to not have their account information misused?
It's corporate level API, dipshit. Not the same as individual level. At all. |
2bhammered
Perkone Caldari State
20
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:16:00 -
[150] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:I am repeating this until there is a legitimate answer...why do goons need to see complete asset list..ganking is admirable...great social engineering.....if it is to aid in the hacking of others accounts....not cool...dictatorships can still offer transparency...what is it goon leadership is trying to hide?
I gave you the real reason, control, make sure your subjects are doing well but not too well and participate in OPS and pay enough taxes. Nothing else, so calm down and lose the tinfoil hat. What they are doing is the same as all the biggest alliances do in order to have greater control.
You want a new ship? ISK? funny,we checked your alt, the one that mined the **** out of our moons the other night when you said you were too sick to come with the fleet to attack Raiden!! |
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scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
19
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:17:00 -
[151] - Quote
Tippia wrote:2bhammered wrote:You are very, very wrong.
Giving people your account name does increase chances of being hacked, same with emails, you can not get away from that. GǪexcept that they're not asking for that, so he's actually very very right. Quote:Real reason is=no one can rat in delve while OP is going and we need to check your ISK accounts I'm beginning to suspect that CCP needs to check the OP's accountsGǪ
CCP is welcome to check all my accounts..
Issue is goons want complete asset list and the answer they are offering is because we said so....this may be a good answer for 5 year olds....not for adults...you can roleplay this all you want but it isnt an answer |
Lady Starfire
State War Academy Caldari State
18
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:17:00 -
[152] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:I am repeating this until there is a legitimate answer...why do goons need to see complete asset list..ganking is admirable...great social engineering.....if it is to aid in the hacking of others accounts....not cool...dictatorships can still offer transparency...what is it goon leadership is trying to hide? SCOOTER KONDUR WHY DID YOU LEAVE ME AND THE ONE ARM LIBERATION FRONT? WE MISS YOU WE BELIEVE YOU MIGHT HAVE BEEN A TRADER BUT WERE SLOWLY WORKING OUR WAY UP TO ASKING FOR YOU SWEET HARD API BUT YOU LEFT BEFORE WE COULD! WILL YOU COME BACK TO US AND BE OUR TWO ARM SPY AGAIN? |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
19
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:17:00 -
[153] - Quote
2bhammered wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:I am repeating this until there is a legitimate answer...why do goons need to see complete asset list..ganking is admirable...great social engineering.....if it is to aid in the hacking of others accounts....not cool...dictatorships can still offer transparency...what is it goon leadership is trying to hide? I gave you the real reason, control, make sure your subjects are doing well but not too well and participate in OPS and pay enough taxes. Nothing else, so calm down and lose the tinfoil hat. What they are doing is the same as all the biggest alliances do in order to have greater control.
Not a valid answer...people have alts |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
19
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:18:00 -
[154] - Quote
Lady Starfire wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:I am repeating this until there is a legitimate answer...why do goons need to see complete asset list..ganking is admirable...great social engineering.....if it is to aid in the hacking of others accounts....not cool...dictatorships can still offer transparency...what is it goon leadership is trying to hide? SCOOTER KONDUR WHY DID YOU LEAVE ME AND THE ONE ARM LIBERATION FRONT? WE MISS YOU WE BELIEVE YOU MIGHT HAVE BEEN A TRADER BUT WERE SLOWLY WORKING OUR WAY UP TO ASKING FOR YOU SWEET HARD API BUT YOU LEFT BEFORE WE COULD! WILL YOU COME BACK TO US AND BE OUR TWO ARM SPY AGAIN?
I left because you have ADHD and can not stay on subject
why do goons need complete asset list? |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8179
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:18:00 -
[155] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:I am repeating this until there is a legitimate answer...why do goons need to see complete asset list..ganking is admirable...great social engineering.....if it is to aid in the hacking of others accounts....not cool...dictatorships can still offer transparency...what is it goon leadership is trying to hide? What sort of answer would you consider legitimate?
But you're right, even dictatorships can offer transparency. The neat thing about them is that they don't have to do so. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM I am the Pubbie Whisperer |
Naynomi
Vorkuta Inc Goonswarm Federation
3
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:19:00 -
[156] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:Tippia wrote:2bhammered wrote:You are very, very wrong.
Giving people your account name does increase chances of being hacked, same with emails, you can not get away from that. GǪexcept that they're not asking for that, so he's actually very very right. Quote:Real reason is=no one can rat in delve while OP is going and we need to check your ISK accounts I'm beginning to suspect that CCP needs to check the OP's accountsGǪ CCP is welcome to check all my accounts.. Issue is goons want complete asset list and the answer they are offering is because we said so....this may be a good answer for 5 year olds....not for adults...you can roleplay this all you want but it isnt an answer
It's a Corporate level access list, this does not list everything owned by every character. And if it did, who cares? |
Naynomi
Vorkuta Inc Goonswarm Federation
3
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:19:00 -
[157] - Quote
FYI corporate level access lists are corp hangars and POS items. This is to keep track of people trying to sell supers/etc to the enemy. |
Naynomi
Vorkuta Inc Goonswarm Federation
3
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:20:00 -
[158] - Quote
When I grow up, I want to be as much of a dipshit as you. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4605
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:20:00 -
[159] - Quote
Naynomi wrote:It's corporate level API, dipshit. Not the same as individual level. At all. Wait what? Has the OP really misunderstood things on that fundamental level?!
scooter Kondur wrote:Issue is goons want complete asset list and the answer they are offering is because we said so. And that's a sufficient reason. If you don't want to abide by their rules, you're free to stop playing in their back yard. Why is this such an issue for you?
Quote:Not a valid answer...people have alts Does not invalidate the answer GÇö it actually rather reinforces why they'd need the information (or, preferably, even more). GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
TuonelanOrja
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
182
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:20:00 -
[160] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:I am repeating this until there is a legitimate answer...why do goons need to see complete asset list..ganking is admirable...great social engineering.....if it is to aid in the hacking of others accounts....not cool...dictatorships can still offer transparency...what is it goon leadership is trying to hide? 0/10 stop feeding this rtard
Not a veteran, just bitter.. |
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Naynomi
Vorkuta Inc Goonswarm Federation
3
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:20:00 -
[161] - Quote
No really, you must've went to school for this, because you're really REALLY good at it. |
2bhammered
Perkone Caldari State
20
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:20:00 -
[162] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:2bhammered wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:I am repeating this until there is a legitimate answer...why do goons need to see complete asset list..ganking is admirable...great social engineering.....if it is to aid in the hacking of others accounts....not cool...dictatorships can still offer transparency...what is it goon leadership is trying to hide? I gave you the real reason, control, make sure your subjects are doing well but not too well and participate in OPS and pay enough taxes. Nothing else, so calm down and lose the tinfoil hat. What they are doing is the same as all the biggest alliances do in order to have greater control. Not a valid answer...people have alts
We want your acc api and credit card details and IP, now
If you do nt comply we know that you are either a thief, spy or tax evader!! DEAL WITH IT!
PS: Joke not being serious!! |
Naynomi
Vorkuta Inc Goonswarm Federation
3
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:21:00 -
[163] - Quote
2bhammered wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:2bhammered wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:I am repeating this until there is a legitimate answer...why do goons need to see complete asset list..ganking is admirable...great social engineering.....if it is to aid in the hacking of others accounts....not cool...dictatorships can still offer transparency...what is it goon leadership is trying to hide? I gave you the real reason, control, make sure your subjects are doing well but not too well and participate in OPS and pay enough taxes. Nothing else, so calm down and lose the tinfoil hat. What they are doing is the same as all the biggest alliances do in order to have greater control. Not a valid answer...people have alts We want your acc api and credit card details and IP, now
Be careful asking for that. Even though you're posting as a joke, CCP probably won't like it |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
20
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:21:00 -
[164] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Naynomi wrote:It's corporate level API, dipshit. Not the same as individual level. At all. Wait what? Has the OP really misunderstood things on that fundamental level?! scooter Kondur wrote:Issue is goons want complete asset list and the answer they are offering is because we said so. And that's a sufficient reason. If you don't want to abide by their rules, you're free to stop playing in their back yard. Why is this such an issue for you? Quote:Not a valid answer...people have alts Does not invalidate the answer GÇö it actually rather reinforces why they'd need the information (or, preferably, even more).
wrong if i want to join goon fleets i need to provide this information
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Naynomi
Vorkuta Inc Goonswarm Federation
3
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:22:00 -
[165] - Quote
So I just made a pizza, and it was great. |
Naynomi
Vorkuta Inc Goonswarm Federation
3
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:22:00 -
[166] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:Tippia wrote:Naynomi wrote:It's corporate level API, dipshit. Not the same as individual level. At all. Wait what? Has the OP really misunderstood things on that fundamental level?! scooter Kondur wrote:Issue is goons want complete asset list and the answer they are offering is because we said so. And that's a sufficient reason. If you don't want to abide by their rules, you're free to stop playing in their back yard. Why is this such an issue for you? Quote:Not a valid answer...people have alts Does not invalidate the answer GÇö it actually rather reinforces why they'd need the information (or, preferably, even more). wrong if i want to join goon fleets i need to provide this information
No you do not. You do not own an alt/membercorp in GSF, so you will not have to supply it, dipshit. |
Naynomi
Vorkuta Inc Goonswarm Federation
3
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:22:00 -
[167] - Quote
Seriously, you're really dumb |
Naynomi
Vorkuta Inc Goonswarm Federation
3
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:23:00 -
[168] - Quote
I mean, DAMN |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4605
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:23:00 -
[169] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:wrong What is?
Quote:if i want to join goon fleets i need to provide this information So? If you don't want to abide by their rules, you're free to stop playing in their back yard. Why is this such an issue for you? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Naynomi
Vorkuta Inc Goonswarm Federation
3
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:23:00 -
[170] - Quote
(3:22:38 PM) Enaris Kerle: i'm pretty sure that guy is a troll now though because nobody can be that dumb (3:22:42 PM) Enaris Kerle: no really (3:22:43 PM) Enaris Kerle: i mean it (3:22:58 PM) Enaris Kerle: people who are that dumb would have run in front of a bus ages ago
hahahahahahahahaha this guy is so right |
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Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
335
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:23:00 -
[171] - Quote
Okay okay I admit it. We do it to try and decrypt your assets to gain access to your account. There is a pattern to everything! They even say so on the new show Touch with Kiefer Sutherland. |
Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
335
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:24:00 -
[172] - Quote
Naynomi wrote:So I just made a pizza, and it was great. I made 2 pizzas and slipped my ***** between them. It was painfully pleasurable. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4605
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:25:00 -
[173] - Quote
Karadion wrote:Naynomi wrote:So I just made a pizza, and it was great. I made 2 pizzas and slipped my ***** between them. It was painfully pleasurable. Poor pizza. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
2bhammered
Perkone Caldari State
20
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:26:00 -
[174] - Quote
Naynomi wrote:(3:22:38 PM) Enaris Kerle: i'm pretty sure that guy is a troll now though because nobody can be that dumb (3:22:42 PM) Enaris Kerle: no really (3:22:43 PM) Enaris Kerle: i mean it (3:22:58 PM) Enaris Kerle: people who are that dumb would have run in front of a bus ages ago
hahahahahahahahaha this guy is so right
Don't you dare ruuuuuin my fun!! |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8179
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:27:00 -
[175] - Quote
Karadion wrote:Okay okay I admit it. We do it to try and decrypt your assets to gain access to your account. There is a pattern to everything! They even say so on the new show Touch with Kiefer Sutherland. Are you suggesting that Jack Bauer would lie to us? Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM I am the Pubbie Whisperer |
Naynomi
Vorkuta Inc Goonswarm Federation
3
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:28:00 -
[176] - Quote
(3:26:39 PM) Enaris Kerle: okay which one of you is naynomi
TRAP SPRUNG
I CAUGHT YOU READING EVE-O ENARIS KERLE |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4605
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:28:00 -
[177] - Quote
Also, I would like to thank the OP for helping me get past 4 600 GÇö it's ridiculously easy to get GÇ£well, that sounds reasonableGÇ¥-likes when arguing against such dumbfuckery. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Enaris Kerle
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
30
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:30:00 -
[178] - Quote
Naynomi wrote:(3:26:39 PM) Enaris Kerle: okay which one of you is naynomi
TRAP SPRUNG
I CAUGHT YOU READING EVE-O ENARIS KERLE :( |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8179
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:30:00 -
[179] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Also, I would like to thank the OP for helping me get past 4 600 GÇö it's ridiculously easy to get GÇ£well, that sounds reasonableGÇ¥-likes when arguing against such dumbfuckery. I tend to like every post of yours I see in this kind of thread, such as the ones about AFK cloaking mechanics. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM I am the Pubbie Whisperer |
fuer0n
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
73
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:30:00 -
[180] - Quote
Andski wrote:Why is the EVE playerbase so fucking stupid?
You can't hack accounts via API. We require full-a
ccess corp-level APIs for every corp in the alliance for audit reasons. That requirement has existed for years.
lulz |
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scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
20
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:32:00 -
[181] - Quote
There is no reason why goons need to know all assets of of CFC except:
1. hack 2. gank 3. screw over members of CFC later on down the road
which of these are likely....all of them...goons please tell us why you need to know all assets and pos location of coalition members...
social engineering at its best tbh...why have spies to get info for you when you can get ppl to just give it to you freely...because you said so
dont even need scout in systems because couple clicks you can all assets in a system...ship fits included |
Enaris Kerle
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
30
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:32:00 -
[182] - Quote
so tell me about your encounter with a bus, op |
Thomas Abernathy
Viziam Amarr Empire
52
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:32:00 -
[183] - Quote
I'm not reading all of this. OP, Certainly you did your research before attempting to join the Swarm correct? Had you done this, you would have known the Goon's predilection for certain activities involving "less experienced players"
Knowing this, you still attempted to join....
3/10 for minimal troll, -2 for trolling in an english forum with english as a second language.
"Fighting CCD since 2139" |
Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
337
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:33:00 -
[184] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:There is no reason why goons need to know all assets of of CFC except:
1. hack 2. gank 3. screw over members of CFC later on down the road
which of these are likely....all of them...goons please tell us why you need to know all assets and pos location of coalition members Oh my god! He's right! I need to change my API now cause Solo Drakban is not my god and The Mittani is not his messenger? |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4606
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:34:00 -
[185] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:There is no reason why goons need to know all assets of of CFC except: Auditing. First-line security. Because they say so.
Don't like it? Don't play in their back yard. Just take your ball and go home! That'll show'em! GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
20
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:35:00 -
[186] - Quote
actually i would suggest all of that..change pw on all accounts to something secure and i wouldnt even put it past them at this point to have somehow d/l virus/root kit on ones computer.... |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1763
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:35:00 -
[187] - Quote
Every PL membercorp requires full API from every applicant, not just an asset list. Why aren't you accusing them of account hacking? andski for csm7~ |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
20
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:36:00 -
[188] - Quote
Tippia wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:There is no reason why goons need to know all assets of of CFC except: Auditing. First-line security. Because they say so. Don't like it? Don't play in their back yard. Just take your ball and go home! That'll show'em!
not a good enough reason....by anaology...
get in my van and pull your pants down...put paper bag over head...why...because i said so...
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Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
337
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:36:00 -
[189] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:actually i would suggest all of that..change pw on all accounts to something secure and i wouldnt even put it past them at this point to have somehow d/l virus/root kit on ones computer.... He's right! I found a rootkit on my computer! Wait maybe that's from all the **** I've been downloading. Nah, it's definitely from Solo Drakban! |
fuer0n
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
73
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:36:00 -
[190] - Quote
Tippia wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:There is no reason why goons need to know all assets of of CFC except: Auditing. First-line security. Because they say so. Don't like it? Don't play in their back yard. Just take your ball and go home! That'll show'em!
meh |
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scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
20
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:36:00 -
[191] - Quote
Andski wrote:Every PL membercorp requires full API from every applicant, not just an asset list. Why aren't you accusing them of account hacking?
goons comparing their tactics to pl now? uh ok |
TuonelanOrja
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
182
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:37:00 -
[192] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:There is no reason why goons need to know all assets of of CFC except:
1. hack 2. gank 3. screw over members of CFC later on down the road
which of these are likely....all of them...goons please tell us why you need to know all assets and pos location of coalition members...
social engineering at its best tbh...why have spies to get info for you when you can get ppl to just give it to you freely...because you said so
dont even need scout in systems because couple clicks you can all assets in a system...ship fits included Are you saying goons use API for hacking accounts?If so, you better prove it or I'll have your accounts banned.
Not a veteran, just bitter.. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4606
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:37:00 -
[193] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:not a good enough reason. Prove it.
Quote:by anaology...
get in my van and pull your pants down...put paper bag over head...why...because i said so... YesGǪ? So what? It's not like you have to go along with it. Why is this so hard for you to grasp?
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
540
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:37:00 -
[194] - Quote
Can we report the op for being a fearmongering idiot yet? |
TuonelanOrja
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
182
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:38:00 -
[195] - Quote
Oh btw, full API killed Kennedy. Not a veteran, just bitter.. |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8180
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:39:00 -
[196] - Quote
Karadion wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:There is no reason why goons need to know all assets of of CFC except:
1. hack 2. gank 3. screw over members of CFC later on down the road
which of these are likely....all of them...goons please tell us why you need to know all assets and pos location of coalition members Oh my god! He's right! I need to change my API now cause Solo Drakban is not my god and The Mittani is not his messenger? There is no god but Solo Drakban and The Mittani is his messenger. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM I am the Pubbie Whisperer |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8180
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:39:00 -
[197] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:Andski wrote:Every PL membercorp requires full API from every applicant, not just an asset list. Why aren't you accusing them of account hacking? goons comparing their tactics to pl now? uh ok Perish the thought that two successful space guilds would have similar space guild rules. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM I am the Pubbie Whisperer |
Aiwha
101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda
111
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:40:00 -
[198] - Quote
Simple answer, if you don't like their policies, leave the CFC. It's their party, you dance to their tune.
Honestly, the rest of us don't really care about how GS runs their merry little band.
(No, the rest of EVE will not write GS a strongly worded letter discouraging the mistreatment of their bitches) Regards,
LCpl. Aiwha-á Senior Recruiter |
baltec1
503
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:40:00 -
[199] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:You are wrong....read the site
also will give you scenario...Goon alt corp sits in jita or pipe...sees freighter...runs api asset check with provided api...can instantly tell what is in your freighter and knows if it is gankable...even 6 hour cache is more then enough.
ALSO still looking for answer as to why goons wants complete asset list
Goons dont **** Goons so that wont happen.
Unless you are thinking Goons somehow have access to everyones API? |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4606
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:42:00 -
[200] - Quote
Aiwha wrote:(No, the rest of EVE will not write GS a strongly worded letter discouraging the mistreatment of their bitches) I'm leaning towards doing the exact opposite, but then again, I'm not sure it's neededGǪ GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
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Naynomi
Vorkuta Inc Goonswarm Federation
3
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:43:00 -
[201] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:There is no reason why goons need to know all assets of of CFC except:
1. hack 2. gank 3. screw over members of CFC later on down the road
which of these are likely....all of them...goons please tell us why you need to know all assets and pos location of coalition members...
social engineering at its best tbh...why have spies to get info for you when you can get ppl to just give it to you freely...because you said so
dont even need scout in systems because couple clicks you can all assets in a system...ship fits included
lol |
Naynomi
Vorkuta Inc Goonswarm Federation
3
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:44:00 -
[202] - Quote
Damnit, missed the snipe AGAIN |
Neoexecutor
Skynet Technologies
0
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:44:00 -
[203] - Quote
Ok i'll bite, just because this troll turned out to be rather good.
They require full api including assets because they are privately run corporation that has certain standards for applicants. Wealth is one of the main things that define applicants persona and lets the recruiter to make informed decisions on who gets in and who doesn't. Such requirements are not prohibited by CCP and therefore Goon Swarm is free to require it.
As for your concern about hidden plot of personal information extraction with intent of using it against the applicant, i would reply that yes there is some truth in your concerns. It is a part of the reason for such requirement. However since such practice is not prohibited by "law" (CCP), they are free to do it even if they have no reason for it.
And then should you find those practices offensive or suspicious you are free to not apply for this privately run corporation and find one that better suits your needs. Membership in Goonswarm is not required in any way, shape or form.
Well let me know what you think of this, though i must warn if your reply will be limited to "invalid" then i will not care to respond anymore either. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4606
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:45:00 -
[204] - Quote
Naynomi wrote:Damnit, missed the snipe AGAIN Edits don't count. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
baltec1
503
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:45:00 -
[205] - Quote
Naynomi wrote:Damnit, missed the snipe AGAIN
You are a terrible poster who should never stop. |
fuer0n
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
73
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:45:00 -
[206] - Quote
baltec1 wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:You are wrong....read the site
also will give you scenario...Goon alt corp sits in jita or pipe...sees freighter...runs api asset check with provided api...can instantly tell what is in your freighter and knows if it is gankable...even 6 hour cache is more then enough.
ALSO still looking for answer as to why goons wants complete asset list Goons dont **** Goons so that wont happen. Unless you are thinking Goons somehow have access to everyones API?
lol who doesnt
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Ginia Itonula
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
59
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:46:00 -
[207] - Quote
Apparently, there's some human right to be in CFC that I didn't know about.
Sorry, you don't have a god-given right to be in CFC. If you don't like the rules, don't join.
The rules are pretty simple, too: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo9v_GIuDBk Certified Rifter Professional ~Die in a Rifter Erry Day~ |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8180
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:46:00 -
[208] - Quote
fuer0n wrote:baltec1 wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:You are wrong....read the site
also will give you scenario...Goon alt corp sits in jita or pipe...sees freighter...runs api asset check with provided api...can instantly tell what is in your freighter and knows if it is gankable...even 6 hour cache is more then enough.
ALSO still looking for answer as to why goons wants complete asset list Goons dont **** Goons so that wont happen. Unless you are thinking Goons somehow have access to everyones API? lol who doesnt People who aren't paranoid conspiracy nuts? Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM I am the Pubbie Whisperer |
Naynomi
Vorkuta Inc Goonswarm Federation
3
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:49:00 -
[209] - Quote
baltec1 wrote:Naynomi wrote:Damnit, missed the snipe AGAIN You are a terrible poster who should never stop.
:swoon: |
baltec1
503
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:49:00 -
[210] - Quote
Lyris Nairn wrote: People who aren't paranoid conspiracy nuts?
Confiming that the dictatorship must know the location of my nano megathron at all times. |
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Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8180
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:50:00 -
[211] - Quote
baltec1 wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote: People who aren't paranoid conspiracy nuts?
Confiming that the dictatorship must know the location of my nano megathron at all times. Why are you hiding your Megathron from the People's Government? There is no god but Solo Drakban and The Mittani is his messenger. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM I am the Pubbie Whisperer |
Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
5993
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:52:00 -
[212] - Quote
Posting to confirm that everyone in this thread apart from the OP, are hackers and cheaters. Including me.
We are also all alts of the lovely Lyris Nairn. <3
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4606
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:52:00 -
[213] - Quote
Lyris Nairn wrote:Why are you hiding your Megathron from the People's Government? Because it's a ship designed and built by raving hedonist-liberals?
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Naynomi
Vorkuta Inc Goonswarm Federation
3
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:53:00 -
[214] - Quote
Confirming, I am Lyris Nairn's alt. |
Aiwha
101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda
111
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:53:00 -
[215] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:Why are you hiding your Megathron from the People's Government? Because it's a ship designed and built by raving hedonist-liberals?
No, we fly amarrian. Regards,
LCpl. Aiwha-á Senior Recruiter |
2bhammered
Perkone Caldari State
21
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:54:00 -
[216] - Quote
Naynomi wrote:Confirming, I am Lyris Nairn's alt.
You lost my vote because of that |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4609
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:54:00 -
[217] - Quote
Aiwha wrote:No, we fly amarrian. I thought they were more raving masochist-authoritarians.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
1141
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:55:00 -
[218] - Quote
11 pages of this in a few hours.....thanks for the quiet chuckles |
Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
337
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:55:00 -
[219] - Quote
We're talking about tobasco sauce on jabber and slathering them on our balls along with Bengay & Icy Hot. Good conversation, yes? |
baltec1
503
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:56:00 -
[220] - Quote
Lyris Nairn wrote: Why are you hiding your Megathron from the People's Government?
Alas, Twilight sparkle died in glory cynoing in yet another fleet in the branch campain after serving the dear leader through the whole delve and most of the branch campains. |
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4609
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:57:00 -
[221] - Quote
Karadion wrote:We're talking about tobasco sauce on jabber and slathering them on our balls along with Bengay & Icy Hot. Good conversation, yes? See, those are the things you should put in the GF recruitment thread. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
5994
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 20:59:00 -
[222] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Karadion wrote:We're talking about tobasco sauce on jabber and slathering them on our balls along with Bengay & Icy Hot. Good conversation, yes? See, those are the things you should put in the GF recruitment thread. I'd sign up, but then I'm already in as Lyris Nairn.
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
Naynomi
Vorkuta Inc Goonswarm Federation
3
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:01:00 -
[223] - Quote
2bhammered wrote:Naynomi wrote:Confirming, I am Lyris Nairn's alt. You lost my vote because of that
It was a joke. I'm another person's alt who doesn't want to be seen shiposting quite so much :v |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4609
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:02:00 -
[224] - Quote
Mag's wrote:I'd sign up, but then I'm already in as Lyris Nairn. Fair enough. I think I read somewhere that I'm in already as well, as Mittens.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
2bhammered
Perkone Caldari State
21
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:02:00 -
[225] - Quote
Naynomi wrote:2bhammered wrote:Naynomi wrote:Confirming, I am Lyris Nairn's alt. You lost my vote because of that It was a joke. I'm another person's alt who doesn't want to be seen shiposting quite so much :v
Ok she got my vote again, possibly, maybe, if she gives me more attention |
Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
5994
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:03:00 -
[226] - Quote
Naynomi wrote:2bhammered wrote:Naynomi wrote:Confirming, I am Lyris Nairn's alt. You lost my vote because of that It was a joke. I'm another person's alt who doesn't want to be seen shiposting quite so much :v Is it Spartacus?
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
5994
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:05:00 -
[227] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Mag's wrote:I'd sign up, but then I'm already in as Lyris Nairn. Fair enough. I think I read somewhere that I'm in already as well, as Mittens. As you can seemingly manipulate the CSM and therefore CCP so much, (so I hear) can I have a Yacht?
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4609
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:06:00 -
[228] - Quote
Mag's wrote:As you can seemingly manipulate the CSM and therefore CCP so much, (so I hear) can I have a Yacht? You can have a fishing trawler GÇö it's the Icelandic way.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
3012
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:07:00 -
[229] - Quote
You know if you where even smart again, you could like, sell everythign and give it an alt account or some noob trying to get somewhere in the world. before applying then you can start doing your nefarious things.
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Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
5994
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:08:00 -
[230] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Mag's wrote:As you can seemingly manipulate the CSM and therefore CCP so much, (so I hear) can I have a Yacht? You can have a fishing trawler GÇö it's the Icelandic way. I like it. I'll be right over with my waders on.
Edit: Oh and one of those white woolly jumpers.
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
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baltec1
503
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:09:00 -
[231] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Mag's wrote:I'd sign up, but then I'm already in as Lyris Nairn. Fair enough. I think I read somewhere that I'm in already as well, as Mittens.
I have often been called your alt so I guess you have an alt in goons |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
20
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:22:00 -
[232] - Quote
So I leave to walk my dog comeback to 2 more pages of nothing...I think with the amount of vigor and venom goons have been attacking this that alarm bells should be going off to all the CFC members...why do goons need to have all this information on your members when you don't even have it.... |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
20
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:23:00 -
[233] - Quote
TuonelanOrja wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:There is no reason why goons need to know all assets of of CFC except:
1. hack 2. gank 3. screw over members of CFC later on down the road
which of these are likely....all of them...goons please tell us why you need to know all assets and pos location of coalition members...
social engineering at its best tbh...why have spies to get info for you when you can get ppl to just give it to you freely...because you said so
dont even need scout in systems because couple clicks you can all assets in a system...ship fits included Are you saying goons use API for hacking accounts?If so, you better prove it or I'll have your accounts banned.
I am saying the potential is there..and goons should offer transparency in this matter...the whole point of the post |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4610
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:27:00 -
[234] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:So I leave to walk my dog comeback to 2 more pages of nothing. Nah. You come back to 2 pages of actual content, unlike the previous 10.
Quote:why do goons need to have all this information on your members when you don't even have it.... GǪexcept that they do indeed have it, if more trustworthy sources are to be believed. And the reasons they need it have been enumerated in glorious detail GÇö you have yet to explain why it's such an issue for you. If you don't like their rules, don't play by (and with) them.
Quote:I am saying the potential is there..and goons should offer transparency in this matter Why should they?
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Sirane Elrek
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
22
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:27:00 -
[235] - Quote
you should write a strongly worded letter to the Mail |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
20
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:28:00 -
[236] - Quote
Tippia wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:So I leave to walk my dog comeback to 2 more pages of nothing. Nah. You come back to 2 pages of actual content, unlike the previous 10. Quote:why do goons need to have all this information on your members when you don't even have it.... GǪexcept that they do indeed have it, if more trustworthy sources are to be believed. And the reasons they need it have been enumerated in glorious detail GÇö you have yet to explain why it's such an issue for you. If you don't like their rules, don't play by (and with) them. Quote:I am saying the potential is there..and goons should offer transparency in this matter Why should they?
No one from goons leadership has come out and stated no we will not use this to hack your account, there have been no assurances that this information will not be used for nefarious reasons on goons part....why is that? |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4610
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:30:00 -
[237] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:No one from goons leadership has come out and stated no we will not use this to hack your account, GǪlargely because it can't be used that way.
Quote:there have been no assurances that this information will not be used for nefarious reasons on goons part....why is that? Because it's none of your business. Don't like it? Don't play along.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
baltec1
503
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:31:00 -
[238] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:
No one from goons leadership has come out and stated no we will not use this to hack your account, there have been no assurances that this information will not be used for nefarious reasons on goons part....why is that?
Because they cant? |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
20
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:33:00 -
[239] - Quote
You saying that it can't or won't does not make it true. I have outlined a variety of situations where it can. Goon leadership should really step up and say..no we won't be using this information to attack our allies....they should say that if it is found that a members account has been hacked that they will act ethically...they aren't |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
20
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:34:00 -
[240] - Quote
baltec1 wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:
No one from goons leadership has come out and stated no we will not use this to hack your account, there have been no assurances that this information will not be used for nefarious reasons on goons part....why is that?
Because they cant do what you think they can do?
Again they have a complete list of all your assets...they have a complete list of assets in a region...they have a complete list of your skills...yes they can |
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Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8185
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:35:00 -
[241] - Quote
Mag's wrote:Posting to confirm that everyone in this thread apart from the OP, are hackers and cheaters. Including me.
We are also all alts of the lovely Lyris Nairn. <3 Posting to confirm that I am Mag's. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM I am the Pubbie Whisperer |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4612
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:35:00 -
[242] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:You saying that it can't or won't does not make it true. Funny you'd say thatGǪ you haven't offered anything that even hints at your delusions being true. Maybe you should start doing thatGǪ
Quote:I have outlined a variety of situations where it can. No. You've outlined a variety of situations that have nothing to do with the corp API.
Quote:Again they have a complete list of all your assets...they have a complete list of assets in a region...they have a complete list of your skills...yes they can None of that lets them do anything to your account. So no, they can't.
Quote:Goon leadership should really step up and say..no we won't be using this information to attack our allies. Why should they? GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8185
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:35:00 -
[243] - Quote
Naynomi wrote:Confirming, I am Lyris Nairn's alt. Posting to confirm that I am Naynomi. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM I am the Pubbie Whisperer |
Sirane Elrek
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
22
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:36:00 -
[244] - Quote
Hi, I'm part of the Goon leadership and I can confirm that we won't use the API to hack your account. |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8185
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:36:00 -
[245] - Quote
2bhammered wrote:Naynomi wrote:Confirming, I am Lyris Nairn's alt. You lost my vote because of that I've lost your vote something like ten times in the past day. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM I am the Pubbie Whisperer |
Naynomi
Vorkuta Inc Goonswarm Federation
4
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:37:00 -
[246] - Quote
Lyris Nairn wrote:Naynomi wrote:Confirming, I am Lyris Nairn's alt. Posting to confirm that I am Naynomi.
:swoon: |
baltec1
503
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:37:00 -
[247] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:You saying that it can't or won't does not make it true.
You're right, being true is what makes it true.
scooter Kondur wrote: I have outlined a variety of situations where it can.
You theory crafted basing your arguments upon nothing but speculation
Quote:Goon leadership should really step up and say..no we won't be using this information to attack our allies....they should say that if it is found that a members account has been hacked that they will act ethically...they aren't
Unlike other alliances, goons dont **** their friends, not even TEST.
EDIT: I think this thread just got trimmed |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8185
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:37:00 -
[248] - Quote
baltec1 wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote: Why are you hiding your Megathron from the People's Government?
Alas, Twilight sparkle died in glory cynoing in yet another fleet in the branch campain after serving the dear leader through the whole delve and most of the branch campains. Be sure to name the next one Rarity. GÖÑ Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM I am the Pubbie Whisperer |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
20
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:38:00 -
[249] - Quote
Why is it that you think that with a complete list of assets that they won't have a complete list of your assets? this is what i find mind boggling in all of this... |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8185
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:38:00 -
[250] - Quote
Mag's wrote:Tippia wrote:Karadion wrote:We're talking about tobasco sauce on jabber and slathering them on our balls along with Bengay & Icy Hot. Good conversation, yes? See, those are the things you should put in the GF recruitment thread. I'd sign up, but then I'm already in as Lyris Nairn. :smugdog: Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM I am the Pubbie Whisperer |
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Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8185
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:39:00 -
[251] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Mag's wrote:I'd sign up, but then I'm already in as Lyris Nairn. Fair enough. I think I read somewhere that I'm in already as well, as Mittens. So what you're saying is that you're Venus Vermillion Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM I am the Pubbie Whisperer |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8185
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:40:00 -
[252] - Quote
Sirane Elrek wrote:Hi, I'm part of the Goon leadership and I can confirm that we won't use the API to hack your account. There's your answer, OP. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM I am the Pubbie Whisperer |
baltec1
503
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:40:00 -
[253] - Quote
Lyris Nairn wrote: Be sure to name the next one Rarity. GÖÑ
Just for you, Rarity will be arriving in welp fleets in the near future |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
20
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:40:00 -
[254] - Quote
Lyris Nairn wrote:Tippia wrote:Mag's wrote:I'd sign up, but then I'm already in as Lyris Nairn. Fair enough. I think I read somewhere that I'm in already as well, as Mittens. So what you're saying is that you're Venus Vermillion
Again more goon misdirection.....there is no good reason why anyone needs to see complete list of assets unless that information is to be used against ally or individual
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4612
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:40:00 -
[255] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:Why is it that you think that with a complete list of assets that they won't have a complete list of your assets? this is what i find mind boggling in all of this... What's mind-boggling is your infinite density. No-one is thinking that GÇö but nice straw-man. What people are thinking is that your paranoid fantasies are paranoid fantasies since the information the corp API provides doesn't let anyone do the things you claim they can do.
Quote:there is no good reason why anyone needs to see complete list of assets This is still incorrect, by the way. Plenty of reasons have been given and you've been completely unable to argue any of them. Your constant failed attempts at misdirection away from this fact is what has created a thread that was answered in 1GÇô2 pages. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8185
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:41:00 -
[256] - Quote
baltec1 wrote: Unlike other alliances, goons dont **** their friends, not even TEST.
reset TEST Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM I am the Pubbie Whisperer |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8185
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:41:00 -
[257] - Quote
baltec1 wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote: Be sure to name the next one Rarity. GÖÑ
Just for you, Rarity will be arriving in welp fleets in the near future yay~ Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM I am the Pubbie Whisperer |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8185
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:41:00 -
[258] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote:Tippia wrote:Mag's wrote:I'd sign up, but then I'm already in as Lyris Nairn. Fair enough. I think I read somewhere that I'm in already as well, as Mittens. So what you're saying is that you're Venus Vermillion Again more goon misdirection.....there is no good reason why anyone needs to see complete list of assets unless that information is to be used against ally or individual There is no god but Solo Drakban and The Mittani is his messenger. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM I am the Pubbie Whisperer |
Mara Tessidar
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
444
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:46:00 -
[259] - Quote
I'm starting to think that the person who wrote the OP is actually batshit insane enough to believe his own words. http://goo.gl/uX5vk |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
20
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:47:00 -
[260] - Quote
There is no reason that goons would need this information except if they want to hack into someones account or make a move against an alliance member or member of the coalition. There are no other alliance that want all this information. The information in API has the potential to be abused and this is contrary to EULA... |
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Jovan Geldon
SniggWaffe EVE Corporation 123566322353
307
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:47:00 -
[261] - Quote
Fine, if you don't want them to see your livestock fetish then just don't give them your API, god damm
scooter Kondur wrote:There are no other alliance that want all this information heh |
2bhammered
Perkone Caldari State
21
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:48:00 -
[262] - Quote
Lyris Nairn wrote:2bhammered wrote:Naynomi wrote:Confirming, I am Lyris Nairn's alt. You lost my vote because of that I've lost your vote something like ten times in the past day.
You can have it ifI get more attention!! I want to feel as though my vote was bought, all part of my roleplaying |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1770
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:48:00 -
[263] - Quote
nobody
is
forcing
you
to
come
on
our
fleets andski for csm7~ |
Jovan Geldon
SniggWaffe EVE Corporation 123566322353
307
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:48:00 -
[264] - Quote
Hitting Quote instead of Edit is cool now yeah? |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4614
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:48:00 -
[265] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:There is no reason that goons would need this information Incorrect. Repeating your unfounded nonsense doesn't make it an less unfounded or any less nonsensical.
Quote:There are no other alliance that want all this information. Incorrect.
Quote:The information in API has the potential to be abused and this is contrary to EULA... Incorrect.
Also, the question remains: why is it such an issue for you? Don't want to follow their rules? Then don't. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
baltec1
504
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:50:00 -
[266] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:There is no reason that goons would need this information except if they want to hack into someones account or make a move against an alliance member or member of the coalition. There are no other alliance that want all this information. The information in API has the potential to be abused and this is contrary to EULA...
Because full API is a violation of the EULA
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Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
5996
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:51:00 -
[267] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:There is no reason that goons would need this information except if they want to hack into someones account or make a move against an alliance member or member of the coalition. Wrong.
scooter Kondur wrote:There are no other alliance that want all this information. Wrong.
scooter Kondur wrote:The information in API has the potential to be abused and this is contrary to EULA... Wrong.
Three out of three, not bad, not bad at all.
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
Karadion
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
338
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:53:00 -
[268] - Quote
I am a member of the incompetent staff of the GoonSwarm Federation and can guarantee we won't abuse your API. Because if we do abuse your API, we are violating the EULA. Where do I get this information? Why from you of course. Not CCP because they are liars. |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
20
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:53:00 -
[269] - Quote
Let us say I am wrong....why do goons need to have complete list of assets of everyone in CFC?
tbh more you guys go on the more I tend to think the RMTers are getting desperate |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4614
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:55:00 -
[270] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:Let us say I am wrong. We already are.
Quote:why do goons need to have complete list of assets of everyone in CFC? Because they say so.
Quote:tbh more you guys go on the more I tend to think the RMTers are getting desperate You're the one trying to hide information you think this rule will expose (it won't, of course, since you don't understand what any of this does).
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
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scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
20
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:56:00 -
[271] - Quote
Tippia wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:Let us say I am wrong. We already are. Quote:why do goons need to have complete list of assets of everyone in CFC? Because they say so. Quote:tbh more you guys go on the more I tend to think the RMTers are getting desperate You're the one trying to hide information you think this rule will expose (it won't, of course, since you don't understand what any of this does).
Goon do not want to provide an answer..that does not mean there is not one, again just because you say so is not really a valid answer...you aren't talking to a bunch of tweens, fess up...all you need to do |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1770
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:57:00 -
[272] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:Let us say I am wrong....why do goons need to have complete list of assets of everyone in CFC?
tbh more you guys go on the more I tend to think the RMTers are getting desperate
We're not forcing anyone to enter all of their account APIs, they can use whatever account they please as long as there is a character in a blue alliance. andski for csm7~ |
baltec1
504
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:57:00 -
[273] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:Let us say I am wrong....why do goons need to have complete list of assets of everyone in CFC?
tbh more you guys go on the more I tend to think the RMTers are getting desperate
My god I think its starting to sink in.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4614
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:58:00 -
[274] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:Goon do not want to provide an answer..that does not mean there is not one GǪexcept that they (and everyone else) have provided tons of answers. You just don't understand them.
Quote:just because you say so is not really a valid answer. So your answer is invalid then? Well, chucksGǪ we already knew that. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
Ginia Itonula
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
61
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:58:00 -
[275] - Quote
Lyris Nairn wrote:baltec1 wrote:Lyris Nairn wrote: People who aren't paranoid conspiracy nuts?
Confiming that the dictatorship must know the location of my nano megathron at all times. Why are you hiding your Megathron from the People's Government? There is no god but Solo Drakban and The Mittani is his messenger.
Hiding your ships from the Commissar and the Politburo is a sure sign of high treason, of being a Space Kulak standing in the way of the great collectivization project. We must all stand with the Grand Space Soviet against the bourgeoise and their decadent ways. The Space NKVD is constantly monitoring everyone's purchases of Internet Spaceships and their spacebux to ensure true equality of the masses. Certified Rifter Professional ~Die in a Rifter Erry Day~ |
Mara Tessidar
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
449
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:58:00 -
[276] - Quote
Y'know why Tippia is awesome? Because Tippia goes through posts like the shlt you see here and refutes them point by point. Me, I just harumph in disgust at the stupidity of certain people and then go burn down an orphanage to defuse my anger. Every time Tippia posts, an orphanage is saved. http://goo.gl/uX5vk |
Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
5996
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:59:00 -
[277] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:Goon do not want to provide an answer..that does not mean there is not one, again just because you say so is not really a valid answer...you aren't talking to a bunch of tweens, fess up...all you need to do They already have, you don't want to listen.
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8191
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:59:00 -
[278] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:There is no reason that goons would need this information except if they want to hack into someones account or make a move against an alliance member or member of the coalition. There are no other alliance that want all this information. The information in API has the potential to be abused and this is contrary to EULA... At least one other alliance has been named in this thread: Pandemic Legion. You are lying. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar : RIFTERSWARM I am the Pubbie Whisperer |
Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
110
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 21:59:00 -
[279] - Quote
Derpy Hooves, my RSD Celestis, shall join the fleet. You've got to remember that these are just simple miners. These are people of the land. The common clay of New Eden. You know... morons. |
Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
5996
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 22:00:00 -
[280] - Quote
Mara Tessidar wrote:Y'know why Tippia is awesome? Because Tippia goes through posts like the shlt you see here and refutes them point by point. Me, I just harumph in disgust at the stupidity of certain people and then go burn down an orphanage to defuse my anger. Every time Tippia posts, an orphanage is saved. And he keeps pipping me to the post.
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
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scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
20
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 22:00:00 -
[281] - Quote
meh your trolls will not succeed here...your arguments are not valid, goons know full well that ppl are lazy...ppl wont make alt accounts to sign up....you are saying one thing but you know full well that isnt what will happen...as an aside...if you can use alt to make the account then why is having any sort of api check worth the effort? |
Mara Tessidar
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
449
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 22:01:00 -
[282] - Quote
The minerals I mine are free http://goo.gl/uX5vk |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
4614
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 22:02:00 -
[283] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:meh my trolls will not succeed here That's why we're still posting: to stop you.
Quote:your arguments are not valid Prove it.
Quote:if you can use alt to make the account then why is having any sort of api check worth the effort? Already answered. Try reading. Also, try understanding what information is being asked for.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
If not, contact Miss DSA to shed your wardecs. |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
20
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 22:04:00 -
[284] - Quote
Anyone who has followed this thread at all can clearly see how you are talking in circles and just keep telling me I am wrong. Me being wrong is irrelevant. What is relevant is that goons do not need this information at all. In fact they state that they don't need it because making a dummy alt to sign up for coms is valid as well. If the information is not that important then why do they ask for it? Answer is obvious, find someone unsuspecting and abuse it. |
scooter Kondur
Pyramid Celestial
20
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 22:06:00 -
[285] - Quote
Andski wrote:scooter Kondur wrote:Let us say I am wrong....why do goons need to have complete list of assets of everyone in CFC?
tbh more you guys go on the more I tend to think the RMTers are getting desperate We're not forcing anyone to enter all of their account APIs, they can use whatever account they please as long as there is a character in a blue alliance.
Then why ask for it in the first place? If it is that easy to hide the information then it is pointless to ask for it in the first place. |
baltec1
504
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 22:06:00 -
[286] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:meh your trolls will not succeed here...your arguments are not valid, goons know full well that ppl are lazy...ppl wont make alt accounts to sign up....you are saying one thing but you know full well that isnt what will happen...as an aside...if you can use alt to make the account then why is having any sort of api check worth the effort?
Yet I sit here with total confidence that my overlords will not **** me, spin me over and go in for a second time. |
Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
5996
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 22:06:00 -
[287] - Quote
scooter Kondur wrote:Me being wrong is irrelevant.
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
Sirane Elrek
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
23
|
Posted - 2012.01.28 22:07:00 -
[288] - Quote
Hi, nobody is going to hack your account using the API information. Of course you're not going to believe that because you have a year's supply of tinfoil and are paranoid as. Nobody cares about you. You're a stupid little pawn in this internet spaceship game. You'll get moved around by the big name players and you'll either get captured or you will capture other pieces. If you don't want to give people you don't trust your API key, that's fine. There's enough people who will. Don't feel bad, just think of it like the job market. Don't want to flip burgers at McD? That's fine, there's thousands of people who will. We don't need you. We have lots of people who beg to be allowed to join the CFC. And they either fork over their keys, or they go home. The same choice is being offered to you. Want to play with the big kids? You can either join on our terms, or you can watch from the sidelines. There just isn't enough you can offer that you can dictate your terms. We're the guys with the connections and the big guns. (Well technically PL and RDN are the guys with the big guns but work with me here.) We're the guys with the big fights. You're replaceable. Want fleet fights? You can have them - on our terms, not yours. You're not offering anything that other people can't. So our choice is easy. We'll do what we've been doing, and you can complain about as much as you want, but nothing is going to come of it. So whether you believe the API we require is overly broad or not is totally irrelevant to this debate. It's our way, or the highway. |
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ISD Eshtir
Community Communications Liaisons
53
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Posted - 2012.01.28 22:07:00 -
[289] - Quote
Hello everyone,
It is the choice of the player if he/she wants to give out the full api key of their account. Should a player think someone is miss using his api key he can create a new one a make the old one unusable.
If you have evidence that someone got hacked, all you have to do is to send your informations to the GM Team via a petition and they will deal with the situation.
Thread locked. ISD Eshtir Vice Admiral Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Sara XIII
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
54
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Posted - 2012.01.28 22:08:00 -
[290] - Quote
I suspect they're more interested in my mail box history than all of the isk and shiteous modules I have in my hanger.
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