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Msgerbs
Ironclad Forge
STORM.
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Posted - 2012.02.01 09:56:00 -
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If you don't understand the game you're playing, the rules of the game, or why it appeals to people, maybe you shouldn't be making suggestions about it. |
Tairon Usaro
The X-Trading Company
RAZOR Alliance
4
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Posted - 2012.02.01 11:07:00 -
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High Sec ganking is NOT ILLEGAL (as long your not using exploits mitigating CONCORD sanctions). So the OP starts his post with a wrong headline !
High Sec is not 100% secure, it was never meant to be, deal with it.
That having said, i come up with an idea, that might increase security somehow, because the aggressor is faced with mid term consequences. Remember, if you get killed in Empire you get 30 day kill rights ...
How about transferable kill rights ?
- You can convert Kill Rights into a transferable Item called Kill License for a small fee and optinal costs if you tie a bounty to successful ship kills of the target pilot
- if you convert your kill right the target will get a mail kill rights being passive and about details of the Kill License (i.e. bounty, end of kill period)
- Kill Licenses can be traded via direct transfer or contracts
- Kill Licenses can be reconverted into kill rights, it takes 1 hour to become active kill right, if conversion is initiated, the target gets a new mail informing about new owner and that kill rights will active again in an hour
- Bounty is paid upon successful ship kill, otherwise its wasted
- outdated kill licenses get removed from the system periodically
I know, it would create a lot of unique items (like bookmarks) but not in an unlimited manner (unlike bookmarks) since you can only create kill licenses from kill rights.
To my eyes it would be really worth it, since it eventuelly would create a viable bounty hunter business modell for solo PvPers. It wont interfere with High/Low Sec insecurity too much and would provide a lot of emersion.
The system could provide special medals and titels for professional bounty hunters showing their track record. |
Baaa Shakiel
Alpha Strategy
In Umbra Mortis
1
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Posted - 2012.02.11 21:05:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:Faceless Lady wrote:Hi-sec is not hi-sec when gankers can pop you with impunity. Concord is worthles in these matters. Nor is there a court system in EVE to collect damages from the offender. Almost correct. Highsec is high security. It is not 100% safe; the only place you are 100% safe is in a station. This is why CCP warns you not to fly something you cannot afford. The rest of it? Well, that is why you need to learn to avoid them, to use the tools you have to stay safe and so forth. There are no PvE servers or safe zones in EVE; nor should there be. This is EVE.
^ this. I joined eve for the everyday potential for space violence. |
Amaroq Dricaldari
Malicious Mission Murderers
77
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Posted - 2012.02.12 00:24:00 -
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Forget about my old post. Since everybody still complains, let's make some changes in the Ganker's favor, not the Gankee's favor.
This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine. |
Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa
Stark Enterprises
1170
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Posted - 2012.02.12 09:24:00 -
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Umega wrote:Faceless Lady wrote:(moved from general discussion)
Hi-sec is not hi-sec when gankers can pop you with impunity. Concord is worthles in these matters. Nor is there a court system in EVE to collect damages from the offender.
The insurance nerf means nothing to someone with deep pockets. There has to be a more painful deterent.
But what?
Answer: Capital Punishment + Account based fine+ No killmail.
1. concord will not just destroy your ship but also pod you.
2. EVE has account based limits in place (for example, training only one character at a time). Since criminals like to hide behind such limits and imposing fines on a toon with empty pockets is pointless , there should be an account based isk fine imposed equal to the insurance payoff to the vicitim, if not more.
3. Denial of killmail. HI-sec ganking should not give the crminal bragging rights. Deny killmails for all illegal hi-sec ganking.
These three ideas, if implemented will give hi-sec gankers something to think about. It may not eliminate it, but it will reduce it. You are under the false assumption that you should have virtual immunity in highsec. It is called.. HIGH security.. security is high, but not flawless.
Your under the false assumption that high security should have no risk for gankers/murderers. In 0.0, where there is no law, life is working as intended. But in high sec, there isn't a high enough risk that gankers need to face in order to have their lolz.
Hi-sec should not be 100% safe. That having been said, hi-sec should be 100% of a problem for gankers outside of wardecs. SInce jihaddists and 0.0 based gankers dont use wardecs, maybe we should just increase the punishments.
Make all jihaddists pay isk for each kill. In full. Right down to implant, module and cargo value of destroyed ships.
If you dont wanna pay for your gank, pay for your wardec.
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
Late Night Alliance
377
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Posted - 2012.02.12 10:03:00 -
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Asuka Solo wrote:Hi-sec should not be 100% safe. That having been said, hi-sec should be 100% of a problem for gankers outside of wardecs. SInce jihaddists and 0.0 based gankers dont use wardecs, maybe we should just increase the punishments.
Make all jihaddists pay isk for each kill. In full. Right down to implant, module and cargo value of destroyed ships.
If you dont wanna pay for your gank, pay for your wardec.
So basically... to dissuade lol-ganking you want to completely nuke profit-ganking?
Also... explain to me how this will stop lol-gankers from making alt accounts with no ISK or value of any sort?
Two last things...
- how can you engage a corp when everyone in it can simply "jump ship" before any fighting starts and/or uses the "Dec-shield" tactic to get rid of the wardec entirely?
- how else can you engage an enemy's/target's freighter alt when he/she has the character permanently sitting in an NPC corp?
"Just because I seem like an idiot, doesn't mean I am one."
~Unknown |
Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa
Stark Enterprises
1170
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Posted - 2012.02.12 11:14:00 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:
So basically... to dissuade lol-ganking you want to completely nuke profit-ganking?
Also... explain to me how this will stop lol-gankers from making alt accounts with no ISK or value of any sort?
Two last things...
- how can you engage a corp when everyone in it can simply "jump ship" before any fighting starts and/or uses the "Dec-shield" tactic to get rid of the wardec entirely?
- how else can you engage an enemy's/target's freighter alt when he/she has the character permanently sitting in an NPC corp?
1) Yes. Jihaddists who don't like having their profit nuked with hisec griefing should have their profits nuked more often until they learn to like it.
2) It wont. But CCP should just take the isk from the alt account's wallets even if they dont have it.
3) You engage them with effort. Dec shielding mechanic working as intended.
4) You join the NPC corp and try ganking it from there. Or you can grow a pair and gank jfs out in the ghetto/0.0. |
Caliph Muhammed
Perkone
Caldari State
74
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Posted - 2012.02.12 11:56:00 -
[98] - Quote
Asuka Solo wrote:ShahFluffers wrote:
So basically... to dissuade lol-ganking you want to completely nuke profit-ganking?
Also... explain to me how this will stop lol-gankers from making alt accounts with no ISK or value of any sort?
Two last things...
- how can you engage a corp when everyone in it can simply "jump ship" before any fighting starts and/or uses the "Dec-shield" tactic to get rid of the wardec entirely?
- how else can you engage an enemy's/target's freighter alt when he/she has the character permanently sitting in an NPC corp?
1) Yes. Jihaddists who don't like having their profit nuked with hisec griefing should have their profits nuked more often until they learn to like it. 2) It wont. But CCP should just take the isk from the alt account's wallets even if they dont have it. 3) You engage them with effort. Dec shielding mechanic working as intended. 4) You join the NPC corp and try ganking it from there. Or you can grow a pair and gank jfs out in the ghetto/0.0.
You should find a new game, you come off bitter. Anus sore? |
Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa
Stark Enterprises
1170
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Posted - 2012.02.12 12:02:00 -
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Caliph Muhammed wrote:
you come off bitter.
Its in my title Mr obvious.
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