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Seru Maldus
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.11.11 09:13:00 -
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Hey all, been flying my Retriever (bout two weeks from covetor and couple days after that for a hulk).
Some relevant skills/stats before I ask:
Industry V Mining V Refining V Astrogeology V Veld. Proc. IV All other highsec proc. at III
Full +3s
Lately been jetcanning in .7 / .8 systems, mining, refining, and selling for the best profit in my region (hey, isnt that what miners do? ) and lately, ive been pulling in approximately 400,000 per run. If I jetcan mine for a full ~15,000 m3 hauler load, I can pull a couple hundred thousand over 1mil. Now, coming from a fairly new miner to some more experienced roiders, are these numbers par for a Retriever with my skills? I have the miners guide from these forums on tap at all times for reference and recap, but I thought I would ask some other folks.
Be safe out there
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Farrels
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Posted - 2007.11.11 09:31:00 -
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Yes sounds about right. When you get in a Hulk, dump jet can mining, get some expander IIs, cargo rigs and 3* large cargo containers in the hold and you can pull in 16,000.00 m3 without need for jet canning.
Now with current high end roid prices you should be looking at about 6-8 million per hour with tech 2 strips
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Seru Maldus
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.11.11 09:45:00 -
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Originally by: Farrels Yes sounds about right. When you get in a Hulk, dump jet can mining, get some expander IIs, cargo rigs and 3* large cargo containers in the hold and you can pull in 16,000.00 m3 without need for jet canning.
Now with current high end roid prices you should be looking at about 6-8 million per hour with tech 2 strips
Nice I can fit t2 strips, just need that hulk. Hurry skill!
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F'nog
Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce
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Posted - 2007.11.11 10:41:00 -
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I really must say that this thread saddens me. We have a ! using about to be ready to use Hulk with pretty good skills. How does one afford this? And why is he focusing on mining in 0.7+. I didn't work to mine effectively with a Megathron many moons ago, after many months of work and training, to see it surpassed in a short time by Hulk miners with a few weeks of experience.
Originally by: Karen Serasia Because some idiot decided to sell an internet connection to me and didn't think of the consequences.
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Sirtak
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Posted - 2007.11.11 11:16:00 -
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Eh? It's really not that hard. I'm not even really focusing on efficiency (doing mission running inbetween mining 'n stuff, so taking skills for that and my frig too), but I'm running a Retriever for mining atm and preparing to start working towards a Hulk. I'm sure that I could do it a lot faster if I optimized, but meh, I like to have fun playing.
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Asestorian
Domination.
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Posted - 2007.11.11 13:28:00 -
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The "!" doesn't mean anything. It just means that either the character in question hasn't posted on the forums before, or it is still waiting for the avatar to render.
It's also not that hard to get into mining barges, and unlike combat ships you don't necessarily have to train a billion and one different support skills first. A few months from a new character is all that's needed to become proficient in a Covetor I think.
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Kobushi
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Posted - 2007.11.11 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: F'nog I really must say that this thread saddens me. We have a ! using about to be ready to use Hulk with pretty good skills. How does one afford this? And why is he focusing on mining in 0.7+. I didn't work to mine effectively with a Megathron many moons ago, after many months of work and training, to see it surpassed in a short time by Hulk miners with a few weeks of experience.
If you can fly a Megathron why are you mining with it ?
At best it's 5-10% more efficient then a Retriever and for a dedicated miner the step from a Retriever to a Covetor is a small one. You went multi-role which is always less efficient in the long run for a bigger investment in Isk(may it be more upfront bill or lost potential revenue) and skillwise.
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Ancy Denaries
Caldari Isseras Manufacture
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Posted - 2007.11.11 17:10:00 -
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Originally by: Seru Maldus
Originally by: Farrels Yes sounds about right. When you get in a Hulk, dump jet can mining, get some expander IIs, cargo rigs and 3* large cargo containers in the hold and you can pull in 16,000.00 m3 without need for jet canning.
Now with current high end roid prices you should be looking at about 6-8 million per hour with tech 2 strips
Nice I can fit t2 strips, just need that hulk. Hurry skill!
DO NOT FIT T2 STRIPS TO YOUR HULK!
Yet.
T1 strips are 540 m3 / cycle (3 minutes) T2 strips are only 360 m3 / cycle (3 minutes) if you do not fit it with mining crystals. So be sure to have trained the skills for the appropriate mining crystal before you go along and fit T2 strips. Reading the info window is your friend.
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F'nog
Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce
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Posted - 2007.11.11 20:14:00 -
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Originally by: Kobushi
Originally by: F'nog I really must say that this thread saddens me. We have a ! using about to be ready to use Hulk with pretty good skills. How does one afford this? And why is he focusing on mining in 0.7+. I didn't work to mine effectively with a Megathron many moons ago, after many months of work and training, to see it surpassed in a short time by Hulk miners with a few weeks of experience.
If you can fly a Megathron why are you mining with it ?
At best it's 5-10% more efficient then a Retriever and for a dedicated miner the step from a Retriever to a Covetor is a small one. You went multi-role which is always less efficient in the long run for a bigger investment in Isk(may it be more upfront bill or lost potential revenue) and skillwise.
This was 3.5 years ago when there were no barges.
Originally by: Karen Serasia Because some idiot decided to sell an internet connection to me and didn't think of the consequences.
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Tek'a Rain
Gallente Isis Technologies
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Posted - 2007.11.11 21:14:00 -
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Originally by: F'nog
Originally by: Kobushi
Originally by: F'nog I didn't work to mine effectively with a Megathron many moons ago, after many months of work and training, to see it surpassed in a short time by Hulk miners with a few weeks of experience.
If you can fly a Megathron why are you mining with it ?
This was 3.5 years ago when there were no barges.
If it was 3 years ago, when there were no barges.. then why are you complaining? Its like complaining "folks these days are always driving too fast in their new-fangled horseless carriages, they never learned how to ride like I did!"
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iNFyza
Gallente The Kanunu Mining Corp
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Posted - 2007.11.11 22:34:00 -
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3 years ago you probably had 10 empty belts to chose from and so you could take your time mining them. These days your lucky if you find some asteroids in the belts.
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NightF0x
Gallente Chicken Coup Raiders
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Posted - 2007.11.12 12:28:00 -
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Originally by: F'nog I really must say that this thread saddens me. We have a ! using about to be ready to use Hulk with pretty good skills. How does one afford this? And why is he focusing on mining in 0.7+. I didn't work to mine effectively with a Megathron many moons ago, after many months of work and training, to see it surpassed in a short time by Hulk miners with a few weeks of experience.
It takes more than a couple of weeks to get into a Hulk. My alt started as a Gallente prospector and it will take him about 2 months total to get into a Hulk. Granted, I have trained learning skills at the start but it's no mere couple of weeks of training. Mining Barge V alone is nearly a 3 week skill and Astrogeology V is almost 2 weeks. Here's a task for you, create another character in an empty slot then toss it into Eve-mon. Goto ship brower tab and select the Hulk, then add the required skills to the planner and see how long it would take. It will be atleast 2 months of dedicated skill training to get there.
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Ymandra Raystara
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2007.11.12 13:17:00 -
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Aye, I just hit Retriever last night. If I were to grind right towards Hulk with what I have, it would still be at least a month. I'm just working industrial a bit now, and Barge 4 while I wait to gain more isk to buy my +3 int/men implants... then I'll flop over and work up Astro 5. ----- Ymandra's Profile |
Kobushi
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Posted - 2007.11.12 15:26:00 -
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Check your LPstores some have them +3s on the cheap (around 500 LP and 5.2 mil a pop if I remember).
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Ymandra Raystara
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2007.11.12 18:13:00 -
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Do different LP stores have different prices? The 5.2mil sounds familiar, but I know the LP cost was a lot higher... 5k+ if I recall. Probably higher. ----- Ymandra's Profile |
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