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Elizabeth Powers
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Posted - 2004.03.02 19:26:00 -
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I just purchased a Raptor Elite frigate, thinking that it had 2 turret and 2 launcher slots.
However, my one seems to only have 3 high slots - thus leaving me only able to equip 1 turret and 2 launchers. WTF ?
What is going on here ??
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Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2004.03.02 19:36:00 -
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You can equip to launcher or 2 turrets but not at the same time.
According to EVE Database (and I'm assuming it's right) you have 2 turret hardpoints and 2 missile hardpoints but only 3 hi slots. This just gives you more freedom in setting up the raptor.
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2004.03.02 19:38:00 -
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First you check how many Hi slots a ship has. That's the total amount of slots it has
2 of those slots can be used as launchers and two can be used as turrets, meaning that one of them can be either turret or launcher.
Hi Slots = max amount of slots
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Elizabeth Powers
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Posted - 2004.03.02 19:47:00 -
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So what the f**k is the point of the Raptor then ??
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Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2004.03.02 19:50:00 -
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So what the f**k is the point of the Raptor then ??
Well if you can't figure that out than maybe you should give it to me
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2004.03.02 19:51:00 -
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Edited by: Jarjar on 02/03/2004 19:52:36
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So what the f**k is the point of the Raptor then ??
It doesn't suck just because it has 3 highslots.
Use 2 125/150mm railguns and 1 M-12 launcher or the other way around.
Now, I'm not leet frigate pilot... But I've heard that A3 launchers with rockets (yes, rockets) deal quite good damage.
Edit: Typo.
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Belzavior
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Posted - 2004.03.02 19:58:00 -
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Speed and signature?
Does it have more armor and shields than other frigs of the race?
Cpu & Pwrgrid?
Seems like a very good bonus above other frigats. I know looking at the stats for a Crusader I'm curiouse to as how many normal frigs would even have the slightest of a chance. Not to mention that I think it could take out a low end cruiser such as an augorer.
Before you bring up the price tag, remember that the amount invested into ships has a diminishing returns effect. IE you can't expect a 100m BS to outperform 500 punishers, just as you can't expect a 100m battleship with 150 worth of named loot and t2 modules to outperform 3 tier 1 battleships with normal t1 equipment.
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Nicholas Marshal
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Posted - 2004.03.03 00:02:00 -
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So what is the best way to kit one of these little ships out then ?
Also, do they compete well with the existing frigates ? Like Rifters etc ?
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CoolSprog
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Posted - 2004.03.03 07:28:00 -
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Edited by: CoolSprog on 03/03/2004 07:29:07
Well in a lot of cases in frig fights first person to fire his cruise wins (not always the case), elite frigs can take that little extra beating, will get the lock first, and are fast aswell, they can easily compete 
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Simen Looswe
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Posted - 2004.03.03 10:47:00 -
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Edited by: Simen Looswe on 03/03/2004 11:01:24
Werent you the gal who was complaining about losing your ship, not having money and asking people to give you any?
And now you suddenly have bought a Raptor? And you have no idea how the hi-slot thing works??
Everybody who has the money to buy a raptor, should have enough understanding of the game dynamics to know how fitting works. Everybody who has the skillz to fly one, sure should.....
This is not meant to be a flame, or invitation to flaming. If you're not the 'beggar-girl' I sincerly apologise.
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Simen Looswe
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Posted - 2004.03.03 11:00:00 -
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i knew i was right, check this link:
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=60724
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Joe
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Posted - 2004.03.03 12:12:00 -
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Just be thankfull you have any missle slots at all.
Think about all the poor guys who are going to have their Shiny new Elite Frigate destroyed by a FOF cruise missle, because they can't mount any defender Missles.
(Thats right, it doesn't matter how small your ships signature is, FOF cruise will still lock u  ) |
Nicholas Marshal
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Posted - 2004.03.03 12:19:00 -
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And how will this cruise missile catch me ? My raptor goes 3000km/s indefinately.
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Nightfang
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Posted - 2004.03.03 12:21:00 -
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Just be thankfull you have any missle slots at all.
Think about all the poor guys who are going to have their Shiny new Elite Frigate destroyed by a FOF cruise missle, because they can't mount any defender Missles.
(Thats right, it doesn't matter how small your ships signature is, FOF cruise will still lock u )
Imagine how embarassed you will feel when you can't hit the lil nugget because they are too quick for your FoF 
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Joe
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Posted - 2004.03.03 12:57:00 -
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for starters, you would have to be flying away from the cruise missle, eg. away from the person who fired it, and how long can a cruise fly for? yes, your going to be over 100km away from the ship your ment to be engaged with when the cruise finally does blow up....
whats that u say? i could orbit my enemy @ 10 km range, with my mwd on, and cruise won't hit me? I've done this about 30 times for 'Kill' missions, and my Kestrels still been hit twice, even with mwd on, and that was only against hvy missles (i think)
An Intercepter is ment to be a incredibly hard to hit, harder to lock frigate , giving you more time to fire/ecm/scramble whatever, your not going to be able to do this flying away from your enemy, and orbiting is not fool proof.
your rebuttles are only valid for blockade runners.
ps ~ Spelling police, i don't care. |
Joe
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Posted - 2004.03.03 13:12:00 -
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oh and just incase i didn't make a clear piont (it sometimes gets lost when i'm rambling) heres the current 'orbiting vs cruise missle = death'thread.
so unless your flying away from the enemy, fof cruise will pwn u, (and your not really intercepting anything are you) and my initial post was correct in stating 'be thankfull you have a luancher slot which to use defenders with'
oh, which is actually relevent to this threads topic if you hadn't noticed, mister 'my ships faster than yours'
ps ~ im too lazy to spell rite. |
Jarjar
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Posted - 2004.03.03 13:15:00 -
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Manual orbiting.
Also, a kestrel base speed is 250m/s. A Raptor has a base speed of 415m/s.
With nav 5 and a 1MN MWD, the speeds are ~1103m/s vs ~2400m/s. More than twice the speed, since the Raptor is lighter and thus gains more speed using a MWD/AB.
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Andros Eh'kaar
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Posted - 2004.03.03 13:46:00 -
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hmmm back to the more high slot than turrets+missles.....check minnie ships i think 75% of em got that :D its called VERSATILITY
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Nightfang
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Posted - 2004.03.03 14:27:00 -
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for starters, you would have to be flying away from the cruise missle, eg. away from the person who fired it, and how long can a cruise fly for? yes, your going to be over 100km away from the ship your ment to be engaged with when the cruise finally does blow up....
whats that u say? i could orbit my enemy @ 10 km range, with my mwd on, and cruise won't hit me? I've done this about 30 times for 'Kill' missions, and my Kestrels still been hit twice, even with mwd on, and that was only against hvy missles (i think)
An Intercepter is ment to be a incredibly hard to hit, harder to lock frigate , giving you more time to fire/ecm/scramble whatever, your not going to be able to do this flying away from your enemy, and orbiting is not fool proof.
your rebuttles are only valid for blockade runners.
ps ~ Spelling police, i don't care.
You speak without any experience of actually being in that situation. As was said; manual orbiting works just fine.
And you don't have to fly straight away not to be hit, I zwoosh by cruise missiles all the time - the normal frigates are agile enough to dodge them with ease, interceptors even more so.
Get a clue about this subject, Joe, or you will be very sad when that interceptor pilot puts your red face on when he owns your Caracal or BB. 
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Joe
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Posted - 2004.03.03 14:42:00 -
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the 2nd paragraph in the qoute clearly outlines my experience nightfang, kestrel with mwd vs Missle (i think hvy)
it hit me on more than one occasion.
no i don't fly a Intercepter yet, but the principals are the same. the outlined problem is Orbiting, and the lack of intercepting going on when your flying the opposite direction to your enemy.
i'm wasn't familiar with the manual orbiting technique untill just reading it then, so i can't commment on that.
reminder : this threads topic is not 'my ship is faster than a speeding bullet/missle', its 'why do i have the option of turrets/launchers, which i answered with, 'use defenders' b4 you hijacked the thread.
ps, im better than u, and i don't care about my spelling. |
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