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Magnum III
Journey On Squad
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Posted - 2007.11.20 17:48:00 -
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Some Caldari ships look to be broken and lame winged, why?
Example, the new Caldari Raven, looks to be lame with a gimped wing.
And the Scorpion still looks lopsided.
They should make them look cool like with inverted EVEN wings or something like pushing forward but EVEN.
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Anon Forumalt
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Posted - 2007.11.20 17:51:00 -
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I actually like the smaller wing on the Raven (if indeed they did shrink it,) as it makes it look less "almost symmetrical" and more "intentionally not symmetrical." |
Daphne Oboe
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Posted - 2007.11.20 17:51:00 -
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It's just a part (an irritating one at that) of the Caldari design scheme. They like to engineer their ships for functionality and efficiency over looks. It's just an attitude thing, which I respect, even though most of their ships do look pretty awful as a result.
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Stuart Price
Caldari
Havoc Inc
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Posted - 2007.11.20 18:24:00 -
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The Harpy still looks sexy as hell though in my opinion.
I even have mixing devices to make cakes while I gank interceptors.
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omiNATION
Gallente
Vanguard of the Ouroboros Nation
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Posted - 2007.11.20 18:47:00 -
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Looks fine to me, in fact better.
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Meiyang Lee
Gallente
Azteca Transportation Unlimited
Gunboat Diplomacy
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Posted - 2007.11.20 19:06:00 -
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The biggest change to the Raven in my opinion is the removal of the large control tower from front-right side, this makes it look much better than the old one.
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Ulstan
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Posted - 2007.11.20 19:12:00 -
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I find the random and sometimes arbitrary asymetry somewhat annoying, but I love the overall feel of Caldari ships so I put up with it.
Some ships, like the merlin, caracal, drake, ferox, rokh, cormorant, etc, are *basically* symetrical and are some of the nicest looking Caldari ships as a result.
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Hugh Ruka
Caldari
Exploratio et Industria Morispatia
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Posted - 2007.11.20 19:28:00 -
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Nothing wrong there ...
 Originally by: Aravel Thon
Originally by: Nith Batoxxx
Hi my alt just leanred to fly the ferox...............
I am so so terribly sorry...
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Haniblecter Teg
F.R.E.E. Explorer
Atrum Tempestas Foedus
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Posted - 2007.11.20 19:29:00 -
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Caldari rely on shields, as do on a lesser extent the minnies, so they dont really need uber stable superstructures and symmetry.
Gallente and Amarr on the other hand, are the armor tankers and tankers. They need the long flat surfaces and thick-looking plates.
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Illyria Ambri
RennTech
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Posted - 2007.11.20 19:30:00 -
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Symetry is good.. Caldari designers are blind.
With that said.. What was really needed for Caldari was to break up the harsh straight lines on their ships such as the Raven. That thing was so boxy...the new look has finally broken up those straight angles and made it look much better...though not as good as it would look if it had 2 full sized wings like a true raven.
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Shi Mun
Caldari
Perkone
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Posted - 2007.11.20 19:46:00 -
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i Like the assymetry on the caldari ships it makes them look and feel more unique. Altho i still think the t2 Scorpion should have a symmetrical wing...
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Chaplain Veritas
Amarr
The Aduro Protocol
The Fifth Race
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Posted - 2007.11.20 20:12:00 -
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i love it when ppl say caldari ships are designed for effeciency and practicality. what in god's name is effecient and practical about ships with haphazard crap coming off of them at all angles? look at modern military aircraft / tanks etc etc, they're built for effeciency yet they look cool.
the caldari art / ship designers just look lazy with the random stuff they throw on these ships.
all that being said, i do like the new raven better then the old. assymetry isn't necessarily bad, just ugly randomness is.
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Dammar
Amarr
Ephorate
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Posted - 2007.11.20 20:20:00 -
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Gallenteans stole their left wing and sold it to Jovians for an eternal supply of I-Win buttons.
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Arvald
Caldari
Sten Industries
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Posted - 2007.11.20 20:31:00 -
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Originally by: Stuart Price
The Harpy still looks sexy as hell though in my opinion.
I even have mixing devices to make cakes while I gank interceptors.
oh....god...YES
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Angel DeMorphis
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.11.20 20:38:00 -
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Originally by: Chaplain Veritas
i love it when ppl say caldari ships are designed for effeciency and practicality. what in god's name is effecient and practical about ships with haphazard crap coming off of them at all angles? look at modern military aircraft / tanks etc etc, they're built for effeciency yet they look cool.
the caldari art / ship designers just look lazy with the random stuff they throw on these ships.
all that being said, i do like the new raven better then the old. assymetry isn't necessarily bad, just ugly randomness is.
You can't say their design isn't the most efficient unless you've taken the ships apart and see what goes where, how this part is fueled, that part is closer to the CPU, or whatever. You can't really say they're not the most efficient or most practical unless you know how to actually make them (and I don't mean sticking the BPO and materials in a slot and clicking Deliver when it's done).
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Paulo Damarr
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Posted - 2007.11.20 20:52:00 -
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Aircraft carriers are not symetrical 
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Reem Fairchild
Minmatar
Military Industrial Research
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Posted - 2007.11.20 20:55:00 -
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Assymetri in design is good, damn it. You people have no esthetic taste.
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Marcus Druallis
Quantum Industries
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.11.20 21:15:00 -
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Like that guy said, asymmetry is quite good looking if done in good taste. But random ugly spikes != assymetry in good taste. Makes alot of ships look disgusting.
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Niko Takahashi
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Posted - 2007.11.20 21:59:00 -
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Those are not wings but magazines for all the missiles big wing is primary small gimped wing secondary missile/hybrid ammo. Or you really believe the load the ammo still shrink wrapped straight from cargo hold :D
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NCP S2
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Posted - 2007.11.20 22:02:00 -
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I think the Raven would look a lot better and be more popular aesthetically (learn to spell above) if it was more symetrical. The new design is loads better than the last, but I think we were all looking for an even wing span. It's not too late CCP...
Hmm I'd say 95% of the ships out there are symetrical, except the handful of Caldari ships... Raven with 2 wings = win.
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Si Delane
Sector 7
Visions of Warfare
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Posted - 2007.11.20 22:04:00 -
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the aysmetries are good design (maybe, although clearly no caldari ship was ever meant to hit atmosphere) and with no resistance, there is no point to symetries at all except for aestetic value. Although making every caldari ship have a billion time blinking pointy things sticking out of them is stupid. Judging by the scale a lot of those sensor suites are dozens of meters long.
I guess they're listening to the long-LONG band radio.
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Durindana
Gallente
Solar Wind
STELLAR LEGION
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Posted - 2007.11.21 07:03:00 -
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Originally by: Arvald
Originally by: Stuart Price
The Harpy still looks sexy as hell though in my opinion.
I even have mixing devices to make cakes while I gank interceptors.
oh....god...YES
Exactly. Those aren't mixers, they're vibrators
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Andrew Olaffsen
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Posted - 2007.11.21 07:11:00 -
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Are you poeple actually argueing over the ugliness of CALDARI ships? Even in trinity the tempest looks like a reject from the Kevin Kostner flick waterworld, or some kind of retarted space-vacuum cleaner sailboat thingy. Duct-tape my sweet patooty. The Minmatar have and always will be the KINGS of hill-billy, shade-tree, engine hanging from the tree in the front yard red-kneckery. (translation : HELL YEAH! were number one in the ugly ships category!)
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Secondus Dawkins
Fade to Black Inc
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.11.21 07:17:00 -
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What the hell is the problem with asymmetry? As long as sufficient thrust is provided where it needs it, then I can't see a problem. Two wings my ass. Small-minded people who need conventional appearances to be happy. There can be true beauty in distortion, and certainly more character than perfection.
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Reem Fairchild
Minmatar
Military Industrial Research
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Posted - 2007.11.21 07:18:00 -
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Originally by: NCP S2
aesthetically (learn to spell above)
Both "Aesthetics" and "Esthetics" are considered acceptable spellings. Check next time before correcting.
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if it was more symetrical.
First of all, "symmetrical".
Sccondly, that's a matter of opinion. Can you back up your opinion with a little more than you simply being used to seeing perfect symmetry and therefore prefering it over assymetrical balance in design?
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goodby4u
Logistic Technologies Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.11.21 07:25:00 -
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Its a nerf implimented by ccp to make sure their graviton engines make them go in circles if they dont use 20% of them as a"stabilizer"....seriously.
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Naviset
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Posted - 2007.11.21 07:34:00 -
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Originally by: goodby4u
Its a nerf implimented by ccp to make sure their graviton engines make them go in circles if they dont use 20% of them as a"stabilizer"....seriously.
Shut up cantlock.
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Vitrael
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.11.21 08:17:00 -
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Who cares about symmetry.
I find the Raven aesthetically pleasing.
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Jonas Vasque
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Posted - 2007.11.21 08:40:00 -
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Don't remember where I saw this, I think it was in someone's sig on the forums, but they said it best.
One person designs the left side and one designs the right, and sadly, they never meet.
I still like them though, although it would have been cool if the Black Ops scorpion (Widow I think?) had the missing wing.
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