Originally by: NCP S2

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Jet can mining is the way to go. Sure it has risks, but that's why you get a buddy. Solo mining you're looking at getting into a mining barge or exhumer before you are able to really pull a decent profit with solo mining sans jet can.

And go with the mining bonus'd ships vs a ship with a larger cargo hold, unless you are an AFK warrior.

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Originally by: Kessiaan

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Originally by: NCP S2

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Jet can mining is the way to go. Sure it has risks, but that's why you get a buddy. Solo mining you're looking at getting into a mining barge or exhumer before you are able to really pull a decent profit with solo mining sans jet can.

And go with the mining bonus'd ships vs a ship with a larger cargo hold, unless you are an AFK warrior.

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What he said. You *have* to jetcan mine, I use a retriever right now and I have to stagger my strips because I'll overflow my hold if they both cycle at the same time.

Here's the easy way to safe highsec jetcan mining.

1) Run lv. 1 missions until you find a nice 'roid field in a good system.
2) Complete the mission but DON'T turn it in.
3) Jump in your mining ship, return to the site, and mine for a while. Since you're just in a frigate I suggest you name your jetcan with the time you dropped them and flip them once an hour since it'll probably take you longer than that to fill it up.
4) Once your can is full, switch to a hauler and haul it in.
5) Repeat till the site is dead or you're bored. Since you completed the mission it will despawn at next downtime and you can go back to step 1 the next day or whenever you feel like mining

Eventually if you stick with mining you'll want to get a 2nd hauling account, it makes things SO much easier (you're largely immune to ore thieves, plus you don't have to stop mining to haul) and you'll eventually be filling jetcans so fast the time it takes to haul them in really cuts into your profits)


Mission Mining

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Originally by: Saietor Blackgreen

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See no reason, especially for newbie miner to mine mission sites. There are myriads of roid belts around high sec, you'll always find enough to mine. Never ever saw an ore thief, its pretty rare these days.

1 jetcan holds 27500 m3 BTW.
Just remember they pop in about 90 minutes, so rejet them every hour or so.

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Originally by: Ashen Angel

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Originally by: Saietor Blackgreen

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See no reason, especially for newbie miner to mine mission sites. There are myriads of roid belts around high sec, you'll always find enough to mine. Never ever saw an ore thief, its pretty rare these days.

1 jetcan holds 27500 m3 BTW.
Just remember they pop in about 90 minutes, so rejet them every hour or so.

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Ore thieves are not too rare in some systems, especially in those near the starter areas. There are quiet systems where they don't show up often though.

I prefer to be prepared.

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Originally by: NCP S2

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Cross train the Scythe (minmitar) or Osprey (caldari) and a larger cargo hold doesn't mean a better miner. Mining bonusses do.

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Originally by: Kessiaan

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Originally by: Ashen Angel

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Originally by: Saietor Blackgreen

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See no reason, especially for newbie miner to mine mission sites. There are myriads of roid belts around high sec, you'll always find enough to mine. Never ever saw an ore thief, its pretty rare these days.

1 jetcan holds 27500 m3 BTW.
Just remember they pop in about 90 minutes, so rejet them every hour or so.

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Ore thieves are not too rare in some systems, especially in those near the starter areas. There are quiet systems where they don't show up often though.

I prefer to be prepared.

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Depends. Systems with good ore buy orders tend to be in high traffic systems - that way industrialists can build and sell without having to haul their stuff.

Big ore buy orders drive up traffic more because miners start showing up because *they* don't like to haul either to get best prices for their ore.

All this carebear activity draws highsec pirates.

Sure, you can mine in a quieter system but oftentimes it's hard to move ore because you either have to haul it to get the best ore price, which usually takes many trips in anything other than a freighter, refine it and take the hit if you have anything less than a perfect refine, or put up a sell order and hope someone buys it.

If you have a second account this becomes laregly moot since hauling one, two, or even three jumps isn't a big deal and once out of the big hub systems traffic drops off a lot, but it's still a hassle and actually increases exposure to ore thieves since the hauler might be gone for 20 minutes between runs.

Ore thieves.. best solution, two accounts. Next best solution is to put your can somewhere they can't find it - a mission site or an exploration site. I'm not a big fan of GSCs since they're a huge hassle to move around and belt roids in good systems are usually tiny because they're mined all the time, which isn't a big deal if you're mining with Miner Is but once you get up to T2 strips is a huge annoyance to have the all the rocks pop after one and a half cycles.

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