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Kurogauna
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Posted - 2007.11.21 02:07:00 -
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Edited by: Kurogauna on 21/11/2007 02:13:51 When i speak about piracy to non-pirates, people always think about low-sec PVP. But piracy isn't only pvp, you will agree...
I will list some criminal activities, and i ask you to tell me if something is missing.
Ok here we go !
Lofty scam (high sec) Using gang/wardec mechanism to gank expensive mission runing BS.
Ore thief scam (high sec) Triing to steal some ore in a cheap ship in order to be killed (yes). Then, with the kill right, you can kill your agressor with a better ship (i wonder if my corp mates could attack my killright target after it shoot back.. anyway, its off topic)
Flip Can (high sec) Exanching a miner's jetcan by yours. With luck, the miner will steal in your can.
Contract scam Well ... selling faction large shield booster at the price of X-large shield boosters...
Suicide Gank (high sec, often 0.5) With a gang, tring to kill a ship with valuable goods in its cargo before concord shoot you.
Ninja Salvaging (near L4 mission centers) Probing mission runners drones, then salvaging the wecks. Its 100% safe. You can also steal in the wreck in order to be killed > see ore thief scam
Newbie Fishing (high sec) Put a can with some mid expensive items at 20 - 30 km of a gate, then wait for the velator ... Yes it is lame.
Hunting low sec mission runners (low sec) With probes, you search for the mission runner's drones. Then gank him. There is a variant: wait pirates hunters in a ded space.
Ore Thieving Well im not a bigfan of this.
Pure pvp Roaming, gate camping and so on. Sometimes ransoming is worth, sometimes not. I found that hunting in low sec without a prober budy is useless: too much people in safe spot wainting for the same thing.
The bait (0.0 / low) One of your buddy will be the bait. He will stay in a belt or near a gate (in 0.0) in order to attract agressors... Then the rest of the gang warp on him...
Wardecs: corps ransoms Hunting corps in order to earn some ransoms. Leading a siege is a good way to **** of corps.
Wardecs: Surprise ! (high sec) Uncorped corpmates, scout the systems in order to find wartargets. This first approach is to be undetected. When enough wartagets are spotted, a corped corp mate join the uncorped gang. Then the pvp begins. This tactic is usefull to gank wartargets when they dock if they see white stars on a red background =)
Concordken F***fest (high sec) While in a wardec, if you are under a massive siege, quit your corp and then, undock. If your ennemies are nervous, they will shoot at you ... and be killed by concord.
Lag bomb (i dunno if its eula friendly, if someone knows...) Putting some tons of bookmarks in a unfitted BS (but assured of course), then go "pvp". You will be blown and if your opponent try to loot you (sure they will), they will lag as hell. Then your corp mates warp in =)
That's all... Do you know more ?
edit: in my examples, my corpmates have "no grantable roles" in order to instant quit the corp.
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Tratez
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.11.21 02:16:00 -
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You forgot hate mails.
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Kurogauna
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Posted - 2007.11.21 02:18:00 -
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Yeah
Black mails Menace a corp of being wardeced... or being not if they pay... (i never tried this)
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NoNah
Tenth Legion Holdings
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Posted - 2007.11.21 06:00:00 -
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Overcutting buy orders, extortion, metagametheft, sov. space intrution, undercutting sellorders, powergaming, macromining, haulerbaiting(fitting a hauler for combat and then waiting for innocent hauler-miners)...
The list can go on and on
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Chu Ran
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Posted - 2007.11.21 07:15:00 -
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Excellent list, for both carebears and would-be gankers, One thing you may want to update: Contract Scam description
"Well... selling faction large shield booster at the price of X-large shield boosters"
Personally, I'd buy every faction large shield booster if they're priced at around 300K. Hell, I'd even buy them for the T2 price of 1-2 mil.
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Feyran Loa'thin
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Posted - 2007.11.21 08:12:00 -
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Quote: tell me if something is missing
you missed "receiving lapdances"
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General Coochie
New Justice Minuit.
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Posted - 2007.11.21 11:52:00 -
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Edited by: General Coochie on 21/11/2007 12:17:53 I do not agree. Criminal activities doesn't equal piracy.
Personally I consider scamming and pirating different things. Just as thieving someones ore is another. You either are a thief, a scammer or a pirate, off course you can be all of that but the acts themselves are different. If you planlessly fly around shooting ppl only to get kill mails you are a serial killer or murderer in my eyes. Id like to call ppl looting others wrecks scavengers or smth :)
Pirating for me is when you do an act of piracy do get isk. There must be another person involved and he has to be a knowingly victim. Theres the difference in thieving and piracy. a thief doesn't want to let the owner of the things he stole actualy see him while doing it. Atleast he doesnt want to get caught, hence he flees with the loot once he is done.
By doing an act of piracy you are forcing the victim by threat to surrender his isk or valueables, or you remove it by force. Whatever is the easiest or yields the most isk. It also has to take place in space, not at a station (scamming)
Id like to call myself a pirate in eve but I dont wanna get mixed upp with the serial killers, the scavangers, the scammers or the thieves. Because I am not any off it. Signature removed - please reduce your signature graphic height to less than 120 pixels - Jacques([email protected]) |
Valron Xizor
The Xizor Cartel
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Posted - 2007.11.21 14:19:00 -
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Edited by: Valron Xizor on 21/11/2007 14:19:31 tell me, do you get a kill right on someone who's killed you while you were tagged to them? I didnt think you did.
If so, turn the tables on a noob killer. (Similar to Ore thief scam), get in a noob ship, head to known spot where the noob killers like to hang out and steal form their bait can. Let them kill you. Get in your pwnmobile and go spank him then steal his loot :D
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Kurogauna
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Posted - 2007.11.21 22:40:00 -
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Edited by: Kurogauna on 21/11/2007 22:43:58 Edited by: Kurogauna on 21/11/2007 22:42:31 I am not good at scamming ...
And, i don't like the word "piracy"... I prefer criminality... Much larger.
Piracy is just what you described, i agree.
Quote: tell me, do you get a kill right on someone who's killed you while you were tagged to them? I didnt think you did.
If so, turn the tables on a noob killer. (Similar to Ore thief scam), get in a noob ship, head to known spot where the noob killers like to hang out and steal form their bait can. Let them kill you. Get in your pwnmobile and go spank him then steal his loot :D
Ah?! can't get a kill mail when youre tagged... Yes, i didn't do that. Some things i described here are speculative (for me), so... I thank you for your contribution.
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General Coochie
New Justice Minuit.
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Posted - 2007.11.21 23:33:00 -
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I agree criminality is way better Signature removed - please reduce your signature graphic height to less than 120 pixels - Jacques([email protected]) |
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Lithalnas
Amarr Headcrabs
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Posted - 2007.11.21 23:56:00 -
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Soon to be high sec POS ransoming and destruction. If a post in POS/manufacturing is correct, ccp is looking into anchoring stuff when the tower goes pop, labs at 90mil each is quite a haul. -------------
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hellsknights
Hells Angels Inc.
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Posted - 2007.11.22 00:07:00 -
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Is there a point to this thread? Piracy can be anything you make of it.
I CRAP ON THIS THREAD!!!
recruitment thread Join channel Hells Angels Inc
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Kurogauna
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Posted - 2007.11.22 19:55:00 -
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The point is to collect methods.
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mr passie
Minmatar Purgatorial Janitors Inc.
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Posted - 2007.11.23 07:47:00 -
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lag ransom gather a fleet of 500 (pref short range sensor boosted drone boats) fly to the nearest rsf/gbc slugfest warp to a fleet at maximum range (pref out of range of their snipers) deploy drones and start shooting doing as little dmg as possible (moar ships = moar lag) convo enemy fc put pinky finger to corner of your mouth shout "give me a billion gazillion isk" laugh evilly and don't pay the rest of the fleet due to sheer evilness
I haven't tried it yet but its on my to do list... --------------------------------------------------
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