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Mizhir
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
33320
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Posted - 2013.09.05 16:27:00 -
[55501] - Quote
Zimmy Zeta wrote:Graygor wrote:Well if you scrub up nice I can offer you a job as a purser.
Mind you, this is 10 years + down the line.
The initial budget for this thing is $25-30mil. The helium alone per year is between $3.1mil - $3.8mil at current market value.
Ive always loved airships, and with the way my firm is going I want to cash out at 40. Sell off my shares and options and then fund this baby.
Want to go Early 1900s romanticism with a smattering of 1910s/20s art deco. All dark woods with rich reds and sage green. Lots of brass or brass alloys to skimp on the weight. Weight is the biggest issue, but I want it to be as authentic as possible with every mod con.
Cool thing about an airship is that actually if you sign a waiver (which you will be required anyway) you can go outside and walk around provided you wrap up. So smoking can be permitted without the need for a smoking room. Allows space saving for more passengers.
As for size atm im not sure. Ideally I'd love hindenburg size, but we dont have enough solar tech yet to compensate for the buoyancy of hydrogen with helium fuel.
In a perfect world I'd love 100+ passengers and between 20-30 crew.
Tickets are probably looking around $10-25k depending on the journey. Forget Helium. Hydrogen is where it's at. With todays materials Hydrogen should be safe, it is much cheaper and has better lift than helium. Best thing is, you could create hydrogen on the fly- have your solar powered airship just sit over a lake and make your own hydrogen via electrolysis.
Says the German
We will never forget you Saede!
I bet you dont see things like this so often in EVE |
Mizhir
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
33320
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Posted - 2013.09.05 16:29:00 -
[55502] - Quote
Zimmy Zeta wrote:Random McNally wrote: Downside with hydrogen is that it's very volatile. Remember the Hindenburg?
Yeah. Bullcrap. Everybody raises the Hindenburg as an argument against hydrogen airships. So effing what? The hydrogen exploded, so will the kerosene in today's aircraft, too. Oh, and today's aircraft crash all the time, I'd say at least once per month somewhere on this world an aircraft crashes- but is anyone crying for an end of the aeroplan era? At least after 9/11 people could have screamed that aeroplans are far too dangerous, but nobody did. For unknown reasons our world is slowly losing helium, helium will be one of the most precious resources within several decades- nobody will be able to afford a whole airship filled with helium, not even Graygor.
It's quite sad how ppl get scared by big aircraft crashes while it is known that they have a much higher chance of dying in a car crash.
I would also love to see the return of supersonic passenger jets. We will never forget you Saede!
I bet you dont see things like this so often in EVE |
Random McNally
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
27002
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Posted - 2013.09.05 16:30:00 -
[55503] - Quote
Zimmy Zeta wrote:Random McNally wrote: Downside with hydrogen is that it's very volatile. Remember the Hindenburg?
Yeah. Bullcrap. Everybody raises the Hindenburg as an argument against hydrogen airships. So effing what? The hydrogen exploded, so will the kerosene in today's aircraft, too. Oh, and today's aircraft crash all the time, I'd say at least once per month somewhere on this world an aircraft crashes- but is anyone crying for an end of the aeroplan era? At least after 9/11 people could have screamed that aeroplans are far too dangerous, but nobody did. For unknown reasons our world is slowly losing helium, helium will be one of the most precious resources within several decades- nobody will be able to afford a whole airship filled with helium, not even Graygor. Fair enough.
I cannot argue that Hydrogen is plentiful and cheap to produce. (yea, I've done electolysis of water experiments when I was in elementary school.)
However, it's not ME you need to sell that to. Many many other people remember the Hindenburg. How many people do you think will line up at 10-25K per ticket to ride in a Hydrogen airship? For Gray's sake, I hope lots and lots.
Cranky butt. Red Fed Grunt.-á Co-Host of the High Drag Podcast. http://highdrag.wordpress.com/ UNBAN SAEDE!-á ALICE SAKI FOR OOPE MODERATOR! Check out the space music at http://minddivided.com |
Graygor
1kB Realty 1kB Galactic
56258
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Posted - 2013.09.05 16:31:00 -
[55504] - Quote
Zimmy Zeta wrote:Random McNally wrote: Downside with hydrogen is that it's very volatile. Remember the Hindenburg?
Yeah. Bullcrap. Everybody raises the Hindenburg as an argument against hydrogen airships. So effing what? The hydrogen exploded, so will the kerosene in today's aircraft, too. Oh, and today's aircraft crash all the time, I'd say at least once per month somewhere on this world an aircraft crashes- but is anyone crying for an end of the aeroplan era? At least after 9/11 people could have screamed that aeroplans are far too dangerous, but nobody did. For unknown reasons our world is slowly losing helium, helium will be one of the most precious resources within several decades- nobody will be able to afford a whole airship filled with helium, not even Graygor.
Yeah i want hydrogen but fighting the negative rep is an issue.
And largely hydrogen was smeared for 1 key reason.
Pre WW2 competition.
UK / USA / France - Planes for travel
Germany - Airships.
Airships were the king, planes were unsafe, uncomfy and largely horrible.
Airships let you travel in the same comfort as you would in any Cunard Line ship and were the favourite of the upper classes (who were also in approval of certain german groups during the perioid).
So when the Hindenburg went boom it was smeared to hell and back by industrialists in the UK and USA / France. Same way that public transport was crushed by big oil in the states in the post WW2 era in LA etc.
Got to love capitalism eh?
Thats largely why this super heavy lift airships never take off (pune intended) as big aerospace companies often buy the patents out and sit on them.
Hence why i want no backers.
"I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." --áKenneth O'Hara
"I dont think that can happen, you can see Gray has his invuln field on in his portrait." - Commisar Kate |
Jonah Gravenstein
Sweet Sensations Radical Industries
13339
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Posted - 2013.09.05 16:33:00 -
[55505] - Quote
@ Krixtal, we've got quite a few locally http://www.theweepingcross.com/deco_tour.html
Bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are ~ Harry G. Frankfurt |
Random McNally
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
27002
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Posted - 2013.09.05 16:34:00 -
[55506] - Quote
Zimmy Zeta wrote: At least after 9/11 people could have screamed that aeroplans are far too dangerous, but nobody did.
And, they did. This is one of the reasons we damn near get strip searched just to get on a damned plane. Red Fed Grunt.-á Co-Host of the High Drag Podcast. http://highdrag.wordpress.com/ UNBAN SAEDE!-á ALICE SAKI FOR OOPE MODERATOR! Check out the space music at http://minddivided.com |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
43145
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Posted - 2013.09.05 16:44:00 -
[55507] - Quote
Mizhir wrote:
Says the German
Oh ! Snap ! |
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
19730
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Posted - 2013.09.05 16:45:00 -
[55508] - Quote
Random McNally wrote:And, they did. This is one of the reasons we damn near get strip searched just to get on a damned plane.
True... as if my fear of flying wasn't bad enough.
A German, or Swizz (?) company actually tried to revive the airship for cargo transport a couple of years ago, but they failed due to lack of funding and positive business expectations... "ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!"
Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM) |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
43145
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Posted - 2013.09.05 16:48:00 -
[55509] - Quote
Just found out Dr. Pepper has no pepper in it but does have 90 mg of sodium, weirdly. Along with the sugar. |
Graygor
1kB Realty 1kB Galactic
56268
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Posted - 2013.09.05 16:48:00 -
[55510] - Quote
CE Holders.
We have a new promo code! "I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." --áKenneth O'Hara
"I dont think that can happen, you can see Gray has his invuln field on in his portrait." - Commisar Kate |
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Graygor
1kB Realty 1kB Galactic
56268
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Posted - 2013.09.05 16:50:00 -
[55511] - Quote
Genolution C-3 and C-4 implants.
YOINK! "I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." --áKenneth O'Hara
"I dont think that can happen, you can see Gray has his invuln field on in his portrait." - Commisar Kate |
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
19730
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Posted - 2013.09.05 16:51:00 -
[55512] - Quote
Graygor wrote:CE Holders.
*grumbles* ...elitist scum. "ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!"
Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM) |
Eliana Eros
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
6786
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Posted - 2013.09.05 16:52:00 -
[55513] - Quote
Soooo. sometimes i hate being a forum mod for other games. Its like 98% babysit people with Epens that are grossly wrong, yet you can not take sides...so you have to create an alter ego on the same forums to comment...then because as a forum mod you have access to peoples Ips when they post, you have to manipulate your own Ip so your alt is not found out by other mods...Then when you find another mods alt, you get to blackmail them so they do not get exposed as a BIASED mod.
Its like, being a spy on ze forums. Luckily, my natural tendency to misspell and compose my sentences in a non-American way always throw people off my alt accounts trail as it has perfect spelling and American grammar. Lets be friends?
MY EYES---ZE GOGGLES DO NOTHING |
Random McNally
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
27023
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Posted - 2013.09.05 16:54:00 -
[55514] - Quote
Shalua Rui wrote:Graygor wrote:CE Holders. *grumbles* ...elitist scum. I know, right....
Red Fed Grunt.-á Co-Host of the High Drag Podcast. http://highdrag.wordpress.com/ UNBAN SAEDE!-á ALICE SAKI FOR OOPE MODERATOR! Check out the space music at http://minddivided.com |
Jonah Gravenstein
Sweet Sensations Radical Industries
13358
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Posted - 2013.09.05 16:54:00 -
[55515] - Quote
Eliana Eros wrote:Soooo. sometimes i hate being a forum mod for other games. Its like 98% babysit people with Epens that are grossly wrong, yet you can not take sides...so you have to create an alter ego on the same forums to comment...then because as a forum mod you have access to peoples Ips when they post, you have to manipulate your own Ip so your alt is not found out by other mods...Then when you find another mods alt, you get to blackmail them so they do not get exposed as a BIASED mod.
Its like, being a spy on ze forums. Luckily, my natural tendency to misspell and compose my sentences in a non-American way always throw people off my alt accounts trail as it has perfect spelling and American grammar. You should try being a mod on a filesharing forum and their IRC chatroom, the morons you get in IRC make the morons on any forum look semi intelligent.
Bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are ~ Harry G. Frankfurt |
Graygor
1kB Realty 1kB Galactic
56289
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Posted - 2013.09.05 16:55:00 -
[55516] - Quote
Shalua Rui wrote:Graygor wrote:CE Holders. *grumbles* ...elitist scum.
Someone needs a hug. "I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." --áKenneth O'Hara
"I dont think that can happen, you can see Gray has his invuln field on in his portrait." - Commisar Kate |
Mizhir
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
33338
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Posted - 2013.09.05 16:55:00 -
[55517] - Quote
Graygor wrote:Genolution C-3 and C-4 implants.
YOINK!
That's awesome We will never forget you Saede!
I bet you dont see things like this so often in EVE |
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
19748
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Posted - 2013.09.05 16:56:00 -
[55518] - Quote
Yea, well, I'm getting married in shy over a month from now, no 150Géź left to burn on a computer game. "ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!"
Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM) |
Mizhir
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
33338
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Posted - 2013.09.05 16:56:00 -
[55519] - Quote
Shalua Rui wrote:Graygor wrote:CE Holders. *grumbles* ...elitist scum.
Graygor. I think this lower being is trying to communicate with us. We will never forget you Saede!
I bet you dont see things like this so often in EVE |
Graygor
1kB Realty 1kB Galactic
56289
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Posted - 2013.09.05 16:56:00 -
[55520] - Quote
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:You should try being a mod on a filesharing forum and their IRC chatroom, the morons you get in IRC make the morons on any forum look semi intelligent.
More than GD? "I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." --áKenneth O'Hara
"I dont think that can happen, you can see Gray has his invuln field on in his portrait." - Commisar Kate |
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Graygor
1kB Realty 1kB Galactic
56289
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Posted - 2013.09.05 16:57:00 -
[55521] - Quote
Shalua Rui wrote:Yea, well, I'm getting married in shy over a month from now, no 150Géź left to burn on a computer game.
Your prayers are answered.
https://store.eve.com/collector-s-edition-promo-pack/eve-collector-s-edition-promo-pack-143 "I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." --áKenneth O'Hara
"I dont think that can happen, you can see Gray has his invuln field on in his portrait." - Commisar Kate |
Jonah Gravenstein
Sweet Sensations Radical Industries
13358
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Posted - 2013.09.05 16:58:00 -
[55522] - Quote
GD looks like Mensa compared to some of the crap I see on the forums and IRC rooms I mod.
Bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are ~ Harry G. Frankfurt |
Eliana Eros
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
6793
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Posted - 2013.09.05 16:59:00 -
[55523] - Quote
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Eliana Eros wrote:Soooo. sometimes i hate being a forum mod for other games. Its like 98% babysit people with Epens that are grossly wrong, yet you can not take sides...so you have to create an alter ego on the same forums to comment...then because as a forum mod you have access to peoples Ips when they post, you have to manipulate your own Ip so your alt is not found out by other mods...Then when you find another mods alt, you get to blackmail them so they do not get exposed as a BIASED mod.
Its like, being a spy on ze forums. Luckily, my natural tendency to misspell and compose my sentences in a non-American way always throw people off my alt accounts trail as it has perfect spelling and American grammar. You should try being a mod on a filesharing forum and their IRC chatroom, the morons you get in IRC make the morons on any forum look semi intelligent.
Oh NO. i have turned down that. I learned my lesson.
On a side note i feel this journalist got their sport wrong. Story.
I feel it should not be hockey but soccer. Lets be friends?
MY EYES---ZE GOGGLES DO NOTHING |
Graygor
1kB Realty 1kB Galactic
56289
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Posted - 2013.09.05 17:00:00 -
[55524] - Quote
Mizhir wrote:Shalua Rui wrote:Graygor wrote:CE Holders. *grumbles* ...elitist scum. Graygor. I think this lower being is trying to communicate with us.
Indeed. "I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." --áKenneth O'Hara
"I dont think that can happen, you can see Gray has his invuln field on in his portrait." - Commisar Kate |
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
19748
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Posted - 2013.09.05 17:01:00 -
[55525] - Quote
Hu... nah... still not really worth it. "ginger forum goddess, space gypsy and stone nibbler extraordinaire!"
Shalua Rui - CEO and founder of Rui Freelance Mining (RFLM) |
Random McNally
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
27023
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Posted - 2013.09.05 17:01:00 -
[55526] - Quote
Shalua Rui wrote:Yea, well, I'm getting married in shy over a month from now, no 150Géź left to burn on a computer game. Yea, I dont think I could sell the wife on spending that (or even close to it) on any EVE based fluff.
Guess I'll just work harder and wait until the knockoffs hit the market.
(Dear Santa....I've been a good boy and I want a Rifter Hub, some sleeved tatoos and the Gen 3 and 4 for Xmas) Red Fed Grunt.-á Co-Host of the High Drag Podcast. http://highdrag.wordpress.com/ UNBAN SAEDE!-á ALICE SAKI FOR OOPE MODERATOR! Check out the space music at http://minddivided.com |
Jonah Gravenstein
Sweet Sensations Radical Industries
13358
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Posted - 2013.09.05 17:01:00 -
[55527] - Quote
Eliana Eros wrote: Oh NO. i have turned down that. I learned my lesson.
But... but... my @ prefix in IRC makes me a GOD, a damn evil one at that
Bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are ~ Harry G. Frankfurt |
Graygor
1kB Realty 1kB Galactic
56289
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Posted - 2013.09.05 17:02:00 -
[55528] - Quote
Random McNally wrote:Shalua Rui wrote:Yea, well, I'm getting married in shy over a month from now, no 150Géź left to burn on a computer game. Yea, I dont think I could sell the wife on spending that (or even close to it) on any EVE based fluff. Guess I'll just work harder and wait until the knockoffs hit the market.
I shall link it again. All the digital stuff for $50
https://store.eve.com/collector-s-edition-promo-pack/eve-collector-s-edition-promo-pack-143 "I think you should buy a new Mayan calendar. Mine has muscle cars on it." --áKenneth O'Hara
"I dont think that can happen, you can see Gray has his invuln field on in his portrait." - Commisar Kate |
Random McNally
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
27023
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Posted - 2013.09.05 17:06:00 -
[55529] - Quote
Graygor wrote:Random McNally wrote:Shalua Rui wrote:Yea, well, I'm getting married in shy over a month from now, no 150Géź left to burn on a computer game. Yea, I dont think I could sell the wife on spending that (or even close to it) on any EVE based fluff. Guess I'll just work harder and wait until the knockoffs hit the market. I shall link it again. All the digital stuff for $50 https://store.eve.com/collector-s-edition-promo-pack/eve-collector-s-edition-promo-pack-143 You are an evil evil man. Red Fed Grunt.-á Co-Host of the High Drag Podcast. http://highdrag.wordpress.com/ UNBAN SAEDE!-á ALICE SAKI FOR OOPE MODERATOR! Check out the space music at http://minddivided.com |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
43193
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Posted - 2013.09.05 17:12:00 -
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Squirrel ! |
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