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Sun Liping
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Posted - 2007.12.04 13:13:00 -
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Hi All,
currently I use 7x 425mm Rails on my Megathron. The 8th High Slot has a heavy missile launcher in it, which assists my drones killing small frigs/cruiser at close orbit (also got a Painter in the mids). Anything bigger than the Heavy Launcher is out of question, due to cpu/powergrid restraints.
Now I was wondering if I would be better off using a Heavy Assault Launcher instead. My Range would drop to a quarter probably (15km<-60km), and according to EFT (I know, not really exact) dps would be about 10% more (20->22). But I would expect an even bigger increase due to a better sig radius, and the improved ROF, which allows me to switch targets a few secs sooner.
What I want to know is what other Megathron pilots have in their 8th slot, and if a HAM really would be better at the job of getting rid of frigs than a HM Launcher.
Thanks for your Input!
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TimMc
Gallente Exanimo Inc
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Posted - 2007.12.04 13:17:00 -
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Most mega pilots fit a salvager/tractor/drone link in their 8th slot for PvE. In PvE is usually a NOS/Neut. Jita: No one gets out alive. |
Sun Liping
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Posted - 2007.12.04 13:20:00 -
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I seem to have forgotten the obvious: I use my ship for PvE, not PvP :.-)
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DARTHxFREE
G.R.U.N.T
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Posted - 2007.12.04 13:28:00 -
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I never have the CPU to fit anything in thier /join Cheeze & Whine Club
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ElCoCo
KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.04 13:29:00 -
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Edited by: ElCoCo on 04/12/2007 13:30:27 Rocket launcher with defenders.
edit: pve.... errr... whatever most dmging you can fit |
Sun Liping
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Posted - 2007.12.04 13:35:00 -
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Originally by: TimMc Most mega pilots fit a salvager/tractor/drone link in their 8th slot for PvE. In PvE is usually a NOS/Neut.
A Drone Link is of no use for me, since I already got 54km drone control range skillwise. Salvager/Tractor is an option, but I prefer to deal out maximum dps (even if its only one HM :-) ) and come back later with a decidated salvaging ship.
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Sun Liping
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Posted - 2007.12.04 13:37:00 -
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Originally by: DARTHxFREE I never have the CPU to fit anything in thier
I have about maxed Fitting skills (apart from energy grid upgrades V), so that might free up some cpu for me. I also use an Internal Force Field instead of a DCII, which gives me about 13 cpu more to play with.
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madaluap
Gallente Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.12.04 13:37:00 -
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Edited by: madaluap on 04/12/2007 13:37:57 I would recommend a 'arbalest' assault launcher (lowest cpu, nice frigkilling) or if you have the power&cpu a darkblood/true sansha/amarr navy large EMP smartbomb. You will laugh @ nearly all frigs, dont hit something that can trigger concord though. _________________________________________________ Breetime
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Sun Liping
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Posted - 2007.12.04 13:42:00 -
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Originally by: madaluap Edited by: madaluap on 04/12/2007 13:37:57 I would recommend a 'arbalest' assault launcher (lowest cpu, nice frigkilling) or if you have the power&cpu a darkblood/true sansha/amarr navy large EMP smartbomb. You will laugh @ nearly all frigs, dont hit something that can trigger concord though.
wouldnt a assault launcher deal less damage than a HAM? Or would that me made up since the explosion radius is even smaller, so that the actual damage dealt is the same?
A smartbomb would certainly be interesting, but I think I will pass on that module in highsec :-)
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madaluap
Gallente Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.12.04 13:51:00 -
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Originally by: Sun Liping
Originally by: madaluap Edited by: madaluap on 04/12/2007 13:37:57 I would recommend a 'arbalest' assault launcher (lowest cpu, nice frigkilling) or if you have the power&cpu a darkblood/true sansha/amarr navy large EMP smartbomb. You will laugh @ nearly all frigs, dont hit something that can trigger concord though.
wouldnt a assault launcher deal less damage than a HAM? Or would that me made up since the explosion radius is even smaller, so that the actual damage dealt is the same?
A smartbomb would certainly be interesting, but I think I will pass on that module in highsec :-)
Yes, it will only outdamage ham when fighting frigs. Btw ham do outdamage the heavy missile launcher, but it depends how close the cruisers get to you. I would prefer the heavy missile launcher because it has more range tbh _________________________________________________ Breetime
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Sun Liping
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Posted - 2007.12.04 13:57:00 -
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My rails got a tracking of 0.017, usually I manage to hit everything cruisersize when they are ~ 18km away. Since I need about 2 rail volleys for cruisers, I dont really need the missile launcher, especially at longer ranges. I will simply have a try and see how a HAM performs as it seems to be worth it.
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Ipos
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Posted - 2007.12.04 14:29:00 -
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One defender laucher isn't really useful but a drone link sure is.. personally for PvP purpouses I'd fit a drone launcher.
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Magazaki
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Posted - 2007.12.04 15:34:00 -
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IIRC (can someone bother to doublecheck as I'm in a hurry?) heavy assault missiles has the same explosion radius as heavy missiles, but heavy missiles benefit from guided missile precision ending up with less explosion radius than the heavy assault missiles.
Also, a heavy missile launcher II can shoot precision missiles, which IMO are very good frigate-killers.
So if you have the skills and the fitting for a heavy missile launcher II go for that. Else I would use an assault (not heavy assault) launcher in there for the frigs. -----sig-----
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Haniblecter Teg
F.R.E.E. Explorer Atrum Tempestas Foedus
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Posted - 2007.12.04 15:43:00 -
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Tractor man.
Keep in mind that your goal isnt going to be killing NPC's fastest, its going to be the fastest turnaround.
That said, what would allow you to warp to another belt, start another mission quicker? 22 DPS, or being able to bring a cargo can that's 20km away to you?
That said, would another 50DPS (Magnetic Stab) or a nanofiber II result in a quicker end-time?
Also, use medium drones, the heavy's are too slow and the mega needs help with cruiser and smaller which med drones have no problem with. ----------------- Friends Forever
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Arvald
Caldari House of Tempers
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Posted - 2007.12.04 16:21:00 -
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after the torp change, im gona have to get a seige launcher to fit on there along with all of my neutrons --------------------------- Im in your systemz scanning your moonz |
Sun Liping
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Posted - 2007.12.04 16:36:00 -
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Originally by: Magazaki heavy assault missiles has the same explosion radius as heavy missiles, but heavy missiles benefit from guided missile precision ending up with less explosion radius than the heavy assault missiles.
ah, I will check as soon as I am at home (currently at work). A t2 HAM wont fit I guess since my fitting is very tight, besides its only one slot, before I go for t2 missiles, I still got some other stuff to learn:)
Originally by: Haniblecter Teg
hat said, would another 50DPS (Magnetic Stab) or a nanofiber II result in a quicker end-time?
that would be the 4th mag stab, so i guess it wont improve any further my already quite high Damage mod of 9.18 :)
Currently I use 5x Hammerhead II's, 5x Hobgoblin II's and two webber drones in case some bs manage to orbit me close up.
For looting etc I use a hurricane fitted for salvage, with three salvage tackles, 4xtractors, 4xsalvagers and lots of cargo hold. Of course if the mission requires me to retrieve something from a loot can, then a tractor would be nice, since it saves me 20km travel at 150 m/s, benefiting me more than killing some frigs a few secs faster.
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LUH 3471
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Posted - 2007.12.04 17:02:00 -
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Edited by: LUH 3471 on 04/12/2007 17:02:21 remote armor rep to rep damaged drones other then that i really dunno maybe a snowball launcher just for the fun of it bomblauncher ?
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Xaen
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.12.04 17:05:00 -
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Arablest rocket launcher with defenders. It'll shoot down about 80% of cruise missiles fired at you in a mission. Support fixing the EVE UI | Suggest Jita fixes If you'd suicide gank yourself for what you're hauling, don't.
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