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Morris 159
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Posted - 2007.12.07 18:02:00 -
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Does anyone recognises this situation?
You come back from a long week of low sec pvp and lost a faiir deal of isk. So you decide to do some mission running in high sec and you are happy to get angel extravaganza lvl4.
an easy 15 mill + 5 mill loot and easly 30 to 40 alloyed trit bars.
Now a ******* thief comes in and starts salvaging all your good fresh wrecks stealing al trit bars. You shoot the mofo and get concorded to PROTECT YOUR OWN WINNINGS!
CCP plz fix this ! Stealing wrecks is stealing, so flag them give me a chanse for some action in high sec, or at least let me shoot the guy.
All those who share my point of vieuw plz post here.
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Aslyn Denethorn
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.12.07 18:04:00 -
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I'm actually inclined to agree. Kill rights should be given for ANY theft.
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Morris 159
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Posted - 2007.12.07 18:26:00 -
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That makes 2, Good good, come on ppl keep this going!
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Verital
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Posted - 2007.12.07 18:29:00 -
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I've always seen this as a bug in need of fixing. Salvage > dropped loot most of the time anyway.
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Dalat Tay
Pangalactic Acquisitions The Acquisition
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Posted - 2007.12.07 18:47:00 -
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Edited by: Dalat Tay on 07/12/2007 18:48:02 The wrecks and the salvage in them do not belong to you.
Therefore, it must belong to me.
CCP says so.
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Aslyn Denethorn
Caldari State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.12.07 19:16:00 -
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Well, CCP have been wrong before...
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Sirius Problem
Darkness Inc.
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Posted - 2007.12.07 19:19:00 -
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Many threads on this. Wrong forum actually. Is working as intended. Salvaging is a profession the CCP is not likely to shut down
---- I am Super Cool
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Little Tigerlilly
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Posted - 2007.12.07 19:27:00 -
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Edited by: Little Tigerlilly on 07/12/2007 19:28:39 Doesn't the aggression timer start when you loot or harvest someone else's wreck?
Maybe it's just looting, if that is the case they yes salvaging should also start an aggression timer.
When you fire on a wreck it flags you as a criminal and concord comes out to kick your butt, I know that from experience. Nothing your fleet (grouped players) do inside a mission area should flag you as criminal except blowing up another player. Accidentally shooting, webbing, etc only needs to start an aggression timer. If you actually destroy a friendly ship then concord should respond.
In the rare case a player is harassing you and locking you down while enemies pound you this can either be petitioned for greifing or chalked up to experience of who not to go ratting with depending on the circumstances.
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Kell Braugh
Caldari letter of marque Plunder-Bears
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Posted - 2007.12.07 20:43:00 -
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Originally by: Little Tigerlilly
stuff...
Accidentally shooting, webbing, etc only needs to start an aggression timer. If you actually destroy a friendly ship then concord should respond.
In the rare case a player is harassing you and locking you down while enemies pound you this can either be petitioned for greifing or chalked up to experience of who not to go ratting with depending on the circumstances.
Although I would love for this to be the case at some times, that logic would say a single BS could web/scram and pop a freighter in high sec. You are basically asking for modified Armageddon rules on TQ. Thats a bit too much.
Making salvaging create agro is the quick fix, but kills roaming salvaging as a profession. And someone scanning you down in a mission and salvaging your wrecks sucks, but at least it requires a bit of skill and know how.
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DemonXaphan
Caldari Perkone
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Posted - 2007.12.07 20:56:00 -
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They can loot the wreck but not the loot in the wreck. Loot the wreck and your ok, loot the loot inside the wreck and your flagged. Thats when you web, scram and fire your guns and/or missles. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, diein' time's here. |
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Kehmor
Caldari PAK
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Posted - 2007.12.07 21:11:00 -
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While you sound like a whiney carebear you have a point. Salvaging should get you flagged.
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Zelmor
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Posted - 2007.12.07 21:38:00 -
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Edited by: Zelmor on 07/12/2007 21:38:43 And all the loot left where it is would be wasted, or lame ppl would start camping wreckages in the middle of a belt.. pro :P Just fit 1-2 salvagers, that's how I do it.
ps: will my avatar ever update? >.>
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Dreaded Drew
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Posted - 2007.12.07 21:42:00 -
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Fit 1 gun on yur salvage ship then shoot the wrecks the thievs go fo it makes them very mad and they leave
it works for me
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Tansit
Gallente Bombshell Cartel
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Posted - 2007.12.08 00:21:00 -
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what I like about this post is it's complete grasp of the fact that there are 99349288834232 post on this subject already.
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Sin Fae
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Posted - 2007.12.10 18:39:00 -
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I'll have to broaden my services to include a salvage tax when ore thiev- er mining tax collection is slow.
I do concur, however, that one should be flagged for salvaging other folks wrecks, since that is what makes can-flipping so fun!
~S~
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Sarah Benthwell
Dolaris Holdings
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Posted - 2007.12.10 18:41:00 -
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I'll agree to this if stealing from a real players wrecks/salvaging it gets you aggro to the person who just popped him. _______ shigs |
Kayna Eelai
Gallente Shadow Legion Covenant Paxton Federation
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Posted - 2007.12.10 19:03:00 -
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Originally by: Morris 159 Does anyone recognises this situation?
You come back from a long week of low sec pvp and lost a faiir deal of isk.
then don't go to lowsec or just stop dying?
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So you decide to do some mission running in high sec and you are happy to get angel extravaganza lvl4.
run missions in lowsec, problem solved.
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OOOSOOO
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.12.10 19:40:00 -
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Originally by: Morris 159 Does anyone recognises this situation?
You come back from a long week of low sec pvp and lost a faiir deal of isk. So you decide to do some mission running in high sec and you are happy to get angel extravaganza lvl4.
an easy 15 mill + 5 mill loot and easly 30 to 40 alloyed trit bars.
Now a ******* thief comes in and starts salvaging all your good fresh wrecks stealing al trit bars. You shoot the mofo and get concorded to PROTECT YOUR OWN WINNINGS!
CCP plz fix this ! Stealing wrecks is stealing, so flag them give me a chanse for some action in high sec, or at least let me shoot the guy.
All those who share my point of vieuw plz post here.
I will protect your wrecks. What system do you run missions in?
*hiccup* |
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