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Hasham Abbas
Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.12.10 23:12:00 -
[61]
so wait, you're space ron paul's?
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Angelus Damelon
Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.10 23:18:00 -
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Originally by: Martin VanBuren
Originally by: Galgarak I would say bob are the rebel alliance to be honest, and goons/RA are the guys who when the jedi's were vanquished and sent into hiding the first time, turns on their ally's and reform to form the galactic empire, like what happened through episode 1-3
We all know how that story ends;) Wonder how mittani will scream when his second in command throws him down a long tunnel ;) anyone in bob have a father in goons?
Can I be chewbacca
punch it chewie
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Agnst
Amarr Black Omega Security
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Posted - 2007.12.10 23:18:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Originally by: Hannobaal Edited by: Hannobaal on 10/12/2007 22:50:18
Originally by: Erotic Irony
this is important guys: so JF is space marxism?
Sounds more like the exact opposite to me:
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine making a stand for individual sovereignty and independence over herd mentality
True there. The JF = space Marxism slur is something which ill-informed people have thrown around for years now. The truth is we're more anarcho-capitalist libertarians (with guns). Each free captain is responsible for their own finances and equipment and we have very little in the way of shared capital or assets. People join SF to fight in a revolutionary movement not to "get rich", but its often the case that good fighters with vision and endurance never seem to find it too difficult to make money either. We're pretty much permanently at war against NBSI territorial/enclosurist entities who have previously committed acts of aggression against our members and represent an opportunity for people to actively pvp 24/7 against people that actually deserve to be shot.
You guys rock :D
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Desiderata Fabian
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.10 23:29:00 -
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Originally by: Hannobaal Edited by: Hannobaal on 10/12/2007 22:50:18
Originally by: Erotic Irony
this is important guys: so JF is space marxism?
Sounds more like the exact opposite to me:
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine making a stand for individual sovereignty and independence over herd mentality
The Star Fraction are a group of roleplayers shooting other roleplayers for roleplay reasons.
That’s pretty much it. 
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Scagga Laebetrovo
Delictum 23216
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Posted - 2007.12.10 23:38:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Desiderata Fabian
Originally by: Hannobaal Edited by: Hannobaal on 10/12/2007 22:50:18
Originally by: Erotic Irony
this is important guys: so JF is space marxism?
Sounds more like the exact opposite to me:
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine making a stand for individual sovereignty and independence over herd mentality
The Star Fraction are a group of roleplayers shooting other roleplayers for roleplay reasons.
ThatĘs pretty much it. 
That's the best one line summary evar! :P
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Mr Neutron
Browncoats Freelancers
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Posted - 2007.12.10 23:39:00 -
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I think that both NRDS entities and non teritorrial pirates in EVE are the rebels fighting for freedom. One of them are on the light side, others on the dark side. BOB, GOONS, and any other NBSI space claiming entities are imperiums each one of them.
I may not know much about CVA and the politics they commence, but it really puzzles me why SF takes on them since they're the only entity in EVE that tries to open 0.0 to all non pirating pilotes. There are really plenty of more suitable targets for you guys. ---- Jayne Cobb> Shiny! Let's be bad guys... |

Scagga Laebetrovo
Delictum 23216
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Posted - 2007.12.10 23:42:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Mr Neutron
I may not know much about CVA and the politics they commence, but it really puzzles me why SF takes on them since they're the only entity in EVE that tries to open 0.0 to all non pirating pilotes. There are really plenty of more suitable targets for you guys.
Who said posting on COAD was about revealing the plain truth?
FYI: The Star Fraction is currently engaged in a campaign to destroy the CVA, which started more than a month ago. This may explain why they try and make the CVA look bad when they talk about them here.
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Crovan
Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.12.10 23:59:00 -
[68]
Wait, so does that make Seleene Jabba the Hutt? I better warn him to stay away from Carrie Fisher in a bronze bikini (Evil Thug?). Also, I get to be Boba Fett 
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Drykor
Minmatar Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.12.11 00:07:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Neutron I think that both NRDS entities and non teritorrial pirates in EVE are the rebels fighting for freedom. One of them are on the light side, others on the dark side. BOB, GOONS, and any other NBSI space claiming entities are imperiums each one of them.
I may not know much about CVA and the politics they commence, but it really puzzles me why SF takes on them since they're the only entity in EVE that tries to open 0.0 to all non pirating pilotes. There are really plenty of more suitable targets for you guys.
Easy. First of all, they shot us first. How's that for an NRDS alliance? On top of that, they like to make us look like pirates to justify this.
Second, they represent everything we fight against, they actually want to expand the Amarr empire.
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Ezoran DuBlaidd
Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.12.11 00:13:00 -
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Originally by: Mithfindel
Originally by: Galgarak anyone in bob have a father in goons?
Assuming that FIX stays with BoB to the end, I hear that Dark Shikari is actually a goon.
yeah, he claimed that one day when he posted parts over and over to prove it. it was quite unimpressive.
Originally by: Ricdic Ezoran is a dirty troll. Ezoran has been repoted to mods for trolling on this and many other threads As trolling continues Ezoran will continue to be reported If Ezoran persists then
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Tharrn
Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria
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Posted - 2007.12.11 00:21:00 -
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Originally by: Drykor
Easy. First of all, they shot us first. How's that for an NRDS alliance? On top of that, they like to make us look like pirates to justify this.
Second, they represent everything we fight against, they actually want to expand the Amarr empire.
Four years ago the Jericho Fraction delared war on the 1st Praetorian Guard, a founding corporation of the CVA (then not an alliance obviously). Now beat that - you started it :P
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dastommy79
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.11 00:24:00 -
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Edited by: dastommy79 on 11/12/2007 00:25:48 There really isnt any good guys or bad guys. Like i am a good guy for smashkill and friends but i am a bad guy to fergie ferge and IRC and other peoples. The real freedom fights are the underwear gnomes. Now these guys got it going on. what are we talkin bout agian?
edit: i want to be an ewok in starwars eve. tia
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Orebuster
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2007.12.11 00:27:00 -
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Edited by: Orebuster on 11/12/2007 00:27:43
Originally by: Angelus Damelon
Originally by: Martin VanBuren
Originally by: Galgarak I would say bob are the rebel alliance to be honest, and goons/RA are the guys who when the jedi's were vanquished and sent into hiding the first time, turns on their ally's and reform to form the galactic empire, like what happened through episode 1-3
We all know how that story ends;) Wonder how mittani will scream when his second in command throws him down a long tunnel ;) anyone in bob have a father in goons?
punch it chewie
Who are you calling "scruffy-looking"?
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Cipher7
VersaTech Interstellar Ltd. SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.11 00:29:00 -
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Game mechanic wise CVA are the freedom fighters.
Its the only area of space where the residents are NRDS.
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Ituralde
The Illuminati. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.12.11 01:19:00 -
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Let's be honest.
CVA and it's allies are NRDS insofar as they feel like calling you neutral. If you look at them the wrong way, or look too much to them like a pirate, or slander their empire, chances are they are going to shoot you. _____________________________ Fear is the mind-killer.
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.12.11 01:22:00 -
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True Ituralde. CVA are pretty much standard deep space tyrants just trying to "play nice" with the NRDS thing but unless you do exactly what they say and set standings exactly as they wish you are going to end up -10 and targeted anyhow. There is no "freedom" in Providence, just dictatorship.
No way can you consider that some "freedom fighting" agenda.
War Diary : Operation Terminus Est
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Erik Amirault
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.11 01:24:00 -
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Edited by: Erik Amirault on 11/12/2007 01:25:02 RSF are like Mu/Lamda Lamda Lamda and BoB are the Alpha Betas and the battle for Catch is like the homecoming rally.
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Deschenus Maximus
Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.12.11 01:28:00 -
[78]
I's me, I'm the rebel fighting for freedom in Eve in da op.
(Am I too late? Did someone make that joke already?)
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Orangir
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.11 01:41:00 -
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Originally by: Deschenus Maximus I's me, I'm the rebel fighting for freedom in Eve in da op.
(Am I too late? Did someone make that joke already?)
Yeah it's been done already sorry buddy 
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Nek Tuomatta
Advanced Combat Machines and Equipment
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Posted - 2007.12.11 01:53:00 -
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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
True Ituralde. CVA are pretty much standard deep space tyrants just trying to "play nice" with the NRDS thing but unless you do exactly what they say and set standings exactly as they wish you are going to end up -10 and targeted anyhow. There is no "freedom" in Providence, just dictatorship.
No way can you consider that some "freedom fighting" agenda.
There is only one providence principle: Don't pirate
Say what you like, but you lot are just fed up mosquitos - a bloodsucking nuisance :P
You are now reading my sig!
Originally by: Gaius Kador Nothing surprises me as to the lengths Star Fraction will go to push their propaganda on the public masses.
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Deschenus Maximus
Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.12.11 01:59:00 -
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Originally by: Orangir
Originally by: Deschenus Maximus I's me, I'm the rebel fighting for freedom in Eve in da op.
(Am I too late? Did someone make that joke already?)
Yeah it's been done already sorry buddy 
**** 
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Maggot
Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.12.11 02:22:00 -
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Ushra'khan are freedom fighters.
We fight against slavery. It is our one and only goal and drives every single decision we make as an alliance - wether that makes us the good guys or the bad guys. We fight against the Amarr, their paramilitaries, those who work for them, those who work with them, those who trade slaves, and also fight a war of words with the supporters of a republic we consider to be corrupt.
Maggot.
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Ernest Graefenberg
Minmatar Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.11 02:30:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Bein Glorious
most of the stuff i know about women is from the nintendo 64 games though just fyi
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Janu Hull
Caldari Terra Incognita Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.12.11 02:33:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
True Ituralde. CVA are pretty much standard deep space tyrants just trying to "play nice" with the NRDS thing but unless you do exactly what they say and set standings exactly as they wish you are going to end up -10 and targeted anyhow. There is no "freedom" in Providence, just dictatorship.
No way can you consider that some "freedom fighting" agenda.
Eh, speaking as one who spent many months flying under CVA's aegis, lemme say that what they ask you to do in comparison to what they offer for cooperation doesn't rate on the burden scale out to ten decimal places.
Its real simple.
Don't shoot first.
That's it.
Nothing else.
Feel oppressed yet? 
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.12.11 02:43:00 -
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Originally by: Nek Tuomatta There is only one providence principle: Don't pirate Say what you like, but you lot are just fed up mosquitos - a bloodsucking nuisance :P
Actually the Providence "principle" is don't pirate IN PROVIDENCE apparently. Providence CVA friendly corporations are allowed to pirate OUTSIDE providence and then can come home to providence and count on the rest there defending them against the rightfully-annoyed attempted victims of Providence-resident "piracy". This means that Providence residents happily "pirate" / (attack neutrals) on the Misaba to Mista route and then fly home to pretend they are wholesome NRDS people back in Providence.
All in all this doesn't paint a good picture of what goes on here.
War Diary : Operation Terminus Est
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Janu Hull
Caldari Terra Incognita Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.12.11 02:53:00 -
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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Originally by: Nek Tuomatta There is only one providence principle: Don't pirate Say what you like, but you lot are just fed up mosquitos - a bloodsucking nuisance :P
Actually the Providence "principle" is don't pirate IN PROVIDENCE apparently. Providence CVA friendly corporations are allowed to pirate OUTSIDE providence and then can come home to providence and count on the rest there defending them against the rightfully-annoyed attempted victims of Providence-resident "piracy". This means that Providence residents happily "pirate" / (attack neutrals) on the Misaba to Mista route and then fly home to pretend they are wholesome NRDS people back in Providence.
All in all this doesn't paint a good picture of what goes on here.
Attacking neutrals in the Mista-Misaba pipe is grounds for KOS status in Providence.
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Jasmine Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.12.11 03:06:00 -
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Edited by: Jasmine Constantine on 11/12/2007 03:08:31
Originally by: Janu Hull
Attacking neutrals in the Mista-Misaba pipe is grounds for KOS status in Providence.
If that was true I think Sev3rance and Cold Steel would have been excluded following their unprovoked aggression against Star Fraction. But what you actually mean is : attacking ANYONE apart from those neutrals the CVA tells you to attack is considered grounds for KOS status in Providence.
War Diary : Operation Terminus Est
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Chest McManbone
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.11 03:45:00 -
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Hey mang I don't really get the whole concept of NBSI being comparable to some psychotic dystopia death-nation.
I mean if I'm the rebels from Star Wars and a bunch of dudes we don't know show up in warships around the territories of us or our allies I'm pretty sure we'd take that badly...nevermind the fact they're at war and have to worry about infiltration, fifth columns and all that jazz.
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Montague Zooma
Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.11 06:42:00 -
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Originally by: Jasmine Constantine
Originally by: Janu Hull
Attacking neutrals in the Mista-Misaba pipe is grounds for KOS status in Providence.
If that was true I think Sev3rance and Cold Steel would have been excluded following their unprovoked aggression against Star Fraction. But what you actually mean is : attacking ANYONE apart from those neutrals the CVA tells you to attack is considered grounds for KOS status in Providence.
So you expect CVA to make someone KOS for shooting at CVA's enemies?
This new learning amazes me, Sir Bedevere. Explain again how sheep's bladders may be employed to prevent earthquakes.

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Norwood Franskly
Minmatar Fleet of the Damned United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.11 06:50:00 -
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Our alliance operated NRDS in 0.0 for a while, but too many cowardly alt spies in shuttles and isk farmers ruined it for us by taking advantage of our policies, I don't know how CVA operates and I'm always suprised Providence isn't crawling with farmers and macro ratters.
In my opinion its not feasible to hold sov in 0.0 and be NRDS, it's a shame because we try to position ourself as a free trade Anti-pirate alliance and being NBSI is pretty hypocritical in this regard. We do practice NRDS in low sec still...
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