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Wardeneo	Posted - 2007.12.13 15:58:00 - [1] obviously when it comes to speed minmitar will win and shield (i think) caldari wil win allthough a slep's shield boost bonus is nice, but whats best for armor? i was thinking damnation but some1 said to me an eos can match it i dont agree but i accnt fly command ships so if there is any command ship pilots reading this which is best damnation or eos? wardeneo ps, are the damnation and eos active or passive tanked or drake tanked and what i mean by drake tanked is mostly passive with a few active mods that arnt reppers.
Wardeneo	Posted - 2007.12.13 16:00:00 - [2] also something i forgot to ask is if command ships are used to give command bonus's why pve in them? or is it just caldari 1's rock for missioning?
Mastin Dragonfly Absolutely No Retreat	Posted - 2007.12.13 16:03:00 - [3] Edited by: Mastin Dragonfly on 13/12/2007 16:04:10 You can't truelly passive tank on armor since it doesn't regenerate like shield does, you can set it up with a huge buffer and count on outlasting your opponent(s) but you will still need an armor repairer at some point. As for Eos vs Damnation, I think the damnation will win: two tanking bonuses vs one and a more evenly spread armor resist. Eos has no bonus whatsoever on explosive while Damnation gets both the T2 resist bonus and a ship bonus.
Wardeneo	Posted - 2007.12.13 16:08:00 - [4] Edited by: Wardeneo on 13/12/2007 16:09:33 nice cheers m8, was thinking no 1 was gona post :( umm coz i am training to be a gang support persion (EW, logistics (soon :) and the command ships for bonus's :) so the damnation is a good ship to train for allthough i am gellente and i can fly all races up to BC (and caldari up to the raven) but ammar (at the mo) hmmmmm i mite go for the damnation :) and i like the guardian so 2 ships with 1 training path :p wardeneo
NoNah	Posted - 2007.12.13 16:10:00 - [5] Active tanking: Eos Passive: Damnation Postcount: 87465
Wardeneo	Posted - 2007.12.13 16:10:00 - [6] Originally by: NoNah Active tanking: Eos Passive: Damnation passive tanked damnation :S i though armor tank was active as passive armor tanking is a bit naff ??? wardeneo
Mastin Dragonfly Absolutely No Retreat	Posted - 2007.12.13 16:16:00 - [7] Many ppl call armor hitpoint buff tanking passive tanking.
NoNah	Posted - 2007.12.13 16:22:00 - [8] If you want to be strict, there are just about no passive tanks around in game, as invulnerability fields are active. If your idea of survival requires no active repairing or boosting, it's pretty much passive, in my book. Postcount: 623357
Wardeneo	Posted - 2007.12.13 16:40:00 - [9] Edited by: Wardeneo on 13/12/2007 16:40:33 but a damnation is gona have a armor repper... wud it run dual reps? and can some1 post a good post trinity damnation setup if possible please many thanks wardeneo
Meiyang Lee Gallente Azteca Transportation Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy	Posted - 2007.12.13 16:45:00 - [10] Edited by: Meiyang Lee on 13/12/2007 16:46:34 a Damnation can easily sustain a twin MARII setup, its missiles don't use cap, so every last shred of it can be dedicated to the tank, unless you're flying gang support, in which case your gang mods suck up some cap aswell. But overal a sustainable twin MAR tank is quite easy. As for good setups, i don't have any tried and tested ones, just a few i drew up for when i can fly it myself, so i'd be interested in seeing some experienced Damnation pilot setups too.
Wardeneo	Posted - 2007.12.13 16:51:00 - [11] Originally by: Meiyang Lee Edited by: Meiyang Lee on 13/12/2007 16:46:34 a Damnation can easily sustain a twin MARII setup, its missiles don't use cap, so every last shred of it can be dedicated to the tank, unless you're flying gang support, in which case your gang mods suck up some cap aswell. But overal a sustainable twin MAR tank is quite easy. As for good setups, i don't have any tried and tested ones, just a few i drew up for when i can fly it myself, so i'd be interested in seeing some experienced Damnation pilot setups too. yea i wud like to see an experinced damanation piots setup
PR0PAGANDA Gallente University of Caille	Posted - 2007.12.13 17:09:00 - [12] the absolution also has a very good tank. and can put out much more dps than the damnation and i am pretty after the eos nerf it cannot put out the damage the ab can.
Aeaus The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates	Posted - 2007.12.13 17:13:00 - [13] Damnation Passive Tank = 2 x 1600 EANMs + Work the Rest Out w/o active repairers. It has over 300K Effective HP with just T2 mods, each rep won't contribute enough to be worth putting up there, deal with it later :)
Telonia Reis	Posted - 2007.12.13 18:23:00 - [14] With the armor ammount bonus and loads of spare grid after fitting your high slots load the lows up with 1600mm tungsten plates. You get nearly an additional battleships worth of armor from each one. Getting 40k armor is not hard at all with this beast, and if fit correctly like mentioned above you will be sporting 300k+ effective armor with no need to use cap for anything but your MWD and gang mods. The passive defense is probably the first choice, but after that the other armor gang mods aren't always useful. You can throw in a skirmish link to increase scram range that is only 1 or 2 km less than a bonused claymore, so definitely worth it.
Rainbow Bear Care Bears	Posted - 2007.12.13 18:40:00 - [15] Probably not what you are looking for, but I swapped from an EOS to a Damnation after the patch due to losing heavy drones on the EOS and the Damnation having a far better tank: All of the tank is fully sustainable. True Sansha Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane True Sansha Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Armor Thermic Hardener II Capacitor Power Relay II True Sansha Medium Armor Repairer True Sansha Medium Armor Repairer Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II Cap Recharger II 100MN Afterburner II Caldari Navy Rocket Launcher Salvager I Salvager I Salvager I Small Tractor Beam I Small Tractor Beam I Small Tractor Beam I Auxiliary Nano Pump I Auxiliary Nano Pump I Armour Resists: EM: 83.2% Therm: 85.8% Kin: 84.3% Exp: 91.6% EFT gives it a defence factor of 756 with everything on default. As you can guess its a second account, now used purely for tanking, bit of frig killing with light T2 drones and loot/salvage. Only downside is it takes serious skill points to fit like this ------------------------------------- Where Care Bears Came From!

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