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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2007.12.16 15:11:00 -
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Background The Tempest Tribal Issue (aka The Storm), which is the main prize of this lottery, is one of eight unique battleships awarded in 3rd Alliance Tournament. The winners - BoB received 7 of them, each member of their team one, and they selected 4 Corvuses (Raven State Issue) and 3 Storms. The R0NIN alliance ended up second and got to choose just one ship ... The Corvus, with its 8 launcher points is certainly a beast. But we picked the Storm, as it seemed to be better suited for PvP and we intended to use it in the next tournament (which never happened mainly because of tourney format change - Storm + 3 logistic ships would be a boring team). One Corvus and one Storm got sold by BoB shortly after the tournament, and both were bought by Entity for his collection.
The Storm has most slots of all battleships ingame (8/6/7 layout), which gives it great variability in terms of fitting. It can be fitted for either armor or shield tank, active or passive tanks, long or close range, and do a LOT of damage in all of the variants. With decent skills, implants and fitting worth couple of billions, it can do almost 1500 DPS close range and tank over 800 DPS at the same moment. Simply a dream come true for any pvper or mission runner, if only the ship wouldn't be so damned rare.
The Lottery Because the ship seems to be too expensive for any single person in game at this moment, we (as the R0NIN tournament team) have decided to present you with this special Christmas Lottery, in which you can win the Storm. I have agreed to act as the neutral 3rd party who will keep the ship during this event, and will also collect the ticket payments via my alt.
The Draw 1. We will be using the UK national lottery of saturday 22nd december to pick the winner. The national lottery draw is broadcast live on BBC1 at approximately 19:55 EVE-Time, and the results can be viewed online http://www.national-lottery.co.uk/player/p/results/results.do. The live show broadcast should be available sometime later after draw here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/lottery/
2. The UK national lottery uses 49 lottery numbers, so we will be aiming to sell exactly 49 tickets, each with a unique number and each will cost 2 billion ISKs.
3. There is a reserve of 40 lottery tickets sold for the lottery to proceed on saturday 22nd and sale stop is at 19:00 EVE-Time. If too few tickets are sold the lottery will be postponed or possibly even cancelled. In the latter case tickets will be refunded by Chribba (me) immediately.
4. The winning number shall be the first number drawn in the first draw. If such ticket number was not sold (possible as the reserve is 40 tickets), the next drawn number will be a winning one. This will continue until the first number actually sold gets drawn. With any luck there won't be such situation that no winning number was drawn through the whole lottery, but in the off chance that this happens, the lottery will be postponed until saturday 29th of december.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2007.12.16 15:12:00 -
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The Tickets 5. Tickets will be sold on a first come first serve basis. Your ticket is valid from the moment 'Nhadala' (my alt used for this lottery specifically) receives your ISK, at which point he will update the original post of this thread with all currently sold tickets, the characters who bought them, and their lottery numbers.
6. The fastest way of obtaining a lottery ticket is to transfer the ISK immediately to 'Nhadala', with the comment "Storm lottery", optionally adding your preferred lottery number(s) between 1 and 49. If you do not choose a lottery number or if your chosen lottery number(s) is/are already taken, the lowest available number at that time will be assigned to you. Note that, as long as there are tickets available, the character who transferred the ISK will immediately own a valid lottery ticket.
7. Alternatively, you may request one or more specific lottery numbers in this thread. In this case: a) If the number is still available it will be reserved for the character who posted for 24hrs. You will be notified of this by Chribba (me) by eve mail and in this thread. b) You then have 24hrs to claim the reservation by transferring the ISK to Nhadala with the comment "Storm lottery", specifying (each of) the reserved lottery number(s). c) The ISK must be transferred by the same character who reserved the tickets to claim the reservation, otherwise the ISK transfer will be treated as a separate ticket reservation under point 5. d) Reservations that are not claimed within 24hrs will be cancelled.
8. All ISK received after the last ticket is sold will be immediately transferred back.
The Prize 9. The prize will be contracted within 24hrs of the draw in a non-hub empire system by Chribba (me), and ONLY to the exact character who transferred the ISK for the winning lottery ticket to Nhadala.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2007.12.16 15:12:00 -
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The Numbers
1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 11. 12. 13. 14. 15. 16. 17. 18. 19. 20. 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. 27. 28. 29. 30. 31. 32. 33. 34. 35. 36. 37. 38. 39. 40. 41. 42. 43. 44. 45. 46. 47. 48. 49.
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Nhadala
Otherworld Enterprises Financials Otherworld Empire Productions
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Posted - 2007.12.16 15:13:00 -
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Confirming that Nhadala is my character and is to receive ticket ISK.
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Entity
X-Factor Industries Synthetic Existence
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Posted - 2007.12.16 15:34:00 -
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13 and 37 please. isk sent -_-
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Narciss Sevar
Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.12.16 18:47:00 -
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Should of gone with 2k 50mil tickets. :( Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes |
Josh Causto
Gallente Fatalix Inc. THORN Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.16 19:21:00 -
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If you made 1,000 100 mil tickets they would be gone by now.
Originally by: Speed Devil
Originally by: ReePeR McAllem Everytime you fit anything other than a laser on our ships, babies die.
and when ya fit lasers on your ships nothing dies
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2007.12.16 19:41:00 -
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This lottery was designed after discussion with many pilots (note that this lottery is held on behalf of the owners of the ship) and made so that it could not be manipulated in terms of the winning number, hence it was chosen to use the UK Lottery and its 49 numbers.
I could do a random lottery with less price-per-ticket and a random number chosen by me, however there would always be speculations and scam comments doing it that way. Either way if this lottery does not get the ship sold and the current owners wish to do another in another form with my help I'll do my best to help. However for now, this is the format that will be used until the owners says otherwise or the lottery ends.
Good luck all!
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Vegeta
Minmatar Omniscient Order
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Posted - 2007.12.16 20:03:00 -
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There's no regular public lottery that has more than 49 numbers?
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ThisAlt IsUseless
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Posted - 2007.12.16 20:23:00 -
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that one got 70 numbers
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King Dave
Spartan Industries Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.12.16 20:35:00 -
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Originally by: ThisAlt IsUseless that one got 70 numbers
use that one so i can afford it!
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Calimor
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.16 22:26:00 -
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Originally by: Entity 13 and 37 please. isk sent -_-
I see what you did there
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MacDan
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Posted - 2007.12.16 22:54:00 -
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Quote: Because the ship seems to be too expensive for any single person in game at this moment,
and 2 billion per ticket is cheap?
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Entity
X-Factor Industries Synthetic Existence
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Posted - 2007.12.16 22:56:00 -
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Originally by: MacDan
Quote: Because the ship seems to be too expensive for any single person in game at this moment,
and 2 billion per ticket is cheap?
Do you really want an answer to that? _
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Josh Causto
Gallente Fatalix Inc. THORN Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.17 00:22:00 -
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Originally by: Entity
Originally by: MacDan
Quote: Because the ship seems to be too expensive for any single person in game at this moment,
and 2 billion per ticket is cheap?
Do you really want an answer to that?
Sorry entity, we cant all be like you.
Originally by: Speed Devil
Originally by: ReePeR McAllem Everytime you fit anything other than a laser on our ships, babies die.
and when ya fit lasers on your ships nothing dies
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Entity
X-Factor Industries Synthetic Existence
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Posted - 2007.12.17 01:24:00 -
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Originally by: Josh Causto
Originally by: Entity
Originally by: MacDan
and 2 billion per ticket is cheap?
Do you really want an answer to that?
Sorry entity, we cant all be like you.
My point was kind of the fact this is a priceless ship, and on top of that, think about how much the fitting will cost you when you win. The 2b isn't going to be that much in comparison _
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Cventas
Minmatar Intaglios Semblancies CryoGenesis Mining Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.12.17 01:31:00 -
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Calimor
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.17 02:06:00 -
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Originally by: Entity
Originally by: Josh Causto
Originally by: Entity
Originally by: MacDan
and 2 billion per ticket is cheap?
Do you really want an answer to that?
Sorry entity, we cant all be like you.
My point was kind of the fact this is a priceless ship, and on top of that, think about how much the fitting will cost you when you win. The 2b isn't going to be that much in comparison
Hey entity would you mind donating me 2b?
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Pilk
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.12.17 02:38:00 -
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Edited by: Pilk on 17/12/2007 02:43:13
Originally by: Chribba This lottery was designed after discussion with many pilots (note that this lottery is held on behalf of the owners of the ship) and made so that it could not be manipulated in terms of the winning number, hence it was chosen to use the UK Lottery and its 49 numbers.
I could do a random lottery with less price-per-ticket and a random number chosen by me, however there would always be speculations and scam comments doing it that way. Either way if this lottery does not get the ship sold and the current owners wish to do another in another form with my help I'll do my best to help. However for now, this is the format that will be used until the owners says otherwise or the lottery ends.
Good luck all!
Well, if the UK lotto uses 1-49, you can very easily generate 2,401 distinct tickets, just by concatenating the first two balls. So, 0101 would be the lowest draw, 4949 the highest, and 1258 and such would be invalid. (Alternately, you can do a little fancy place-value math: (ball1-1)*49+(ball2-1).) Similarly, you can generate more or fewer tickets by, for example, using the last digit of the first drawn ball, and both digits of the second (yields 10 * 49 -> 490 tickets). EDIT: Actually, that doesn't quite work. Blame the UK lottery for not including a zero. You can do the first ball divided by 7 to generate 7 * 49 -> 343 tickets, with the noticeable downside that each would be worth a strange amount (285,714,285.714...). Still, the potential to break up tickets is very much there.
I'd strongly suggest breaking apart these tickets a bit more. I'd happily buy in, but 2b on a lottery is a bit much, even for me. Note that current ticketholders wouldn't have to be refunded; their purchases would just magically expand into multiple tickets worth a total of 2b where they previously held a single, 2b isk ticket.
--P
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Sairait
Amarr 47R THE R0NIN
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Posted - 2007.12.17 06:03:00 -
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Or, we could have sold a billion tickets, 100 ISK each, so every two day char can have a shot and win the ship .
Not.
This is a unique ship, and unique chance to win it in this lottery. 1 in 49 chance to be exact, which is not bad IMO. We didn't want everyone betting, but only those people who can afford to fit and fly the ship. Of course someone still might win it and re-sell it immediately, but that is already not our concern. We also knew that we have to base it on a real world lottery, because otherwise - there would always be some doubt about the legitimity of the winner, and we didn't want such doubts. This is a very transparent event. And last, but not least, we wanted a manageable auction. Not 1000 or million tickets to take care of, but 49 or 100 maximum, so that we can keep a track of sold numbers easilly.
So there you go, this is elite ship for elite bidders in elite lottery. You do not feel elite enough ? Maybe you could ask your friends, corporation or alliance and buy a ticket as a group; the rules do not prohibit such purchase ...
Anyway, if the ship doesn't sell and we do not meet the reserve because we've set the tickets too high - shame, but sh*t happens, really. We will just keep the ship, it will still be for sale, and I'm sure that the right buyer will find us sooner or later.
Oh, by the way - the ship still comes with the original tournament fitting by LeMonde (TM). The fitting itself is not worth much these days, but we kept it on the ship for the historical value, and also for laughs : Highs: 8x RF 1400mm Howitzer Artillery Meds: RF Warp Disruptor, RF XL Shield Booster, RF passive(!) shield amplifiers (1 of each damage kind) Lows: 3x RF Gyrostab, 3x RF Tracking Enhancer and 1 odd PDU T2 Drones: none Rigs: none
/Sairait
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Shiwan Khan
Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.12.17 07:48:00 -
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Edited by: Shiwan Khan on 17/12/2007 07:48:18 great, give carebears another amazing ship...
Wish I had the isk ____________________________________________
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schmarty pants
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Posted - 2007.12.17 08:52:00 -
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why is this even news?!!?!
The only people that will be able to afford such things are people that exploit eve, buy thier isk or have a t2 monopoly. meh..
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Greig Tarkunderson
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Posted - 2007.12.17 10:05:00 -
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Actually there are quite a few individuals and even more corps that could afford it. 2B is a lot of cash but far from unobtainable! Not everyone with that much isk is exploiting the game.
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dodgy242
Corpus PCG The State
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Posted - 2007.12.17 11:50:00 -
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Edited by: dodgy242 on 17/12/2007 11:53:17 Indeed.
Just because you're not good at making ISK in Eve schmarty pants (suitable name btw) doesn't mean others can't join in this lottery.
Also, the lottery has been set, 49 numbers, 2 bil/ticket. No further discussion is needed really.
Put me down for number 22 btw. I'll transfer the money tonight.
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Neon Razor
Caldari Cross Roads
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Posted - 2007.12.17 12:16:00 -
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one thing that is putting me off is the low sec part
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EXEQTER
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.12.17 12:50:00 -
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Originally by: Neon Razor one thing that is putting me off is the low sec part
Ditto move it to empire and I will buy a ticket.
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Sairait
Amarr 47R THE R0NIN
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Posted - 2007.12.17 13:15:00 -
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Originally by: EXEQTER
Originally by: Neon Razor one thing that is putting me off is the low sec part
Ditto move it to empire and I will buy a ticket.
Consider it done.
The ship has been in 0.0 for past year, and we only moved it back to empire on this weekend, so we could contract it to Chriba. That's the only reason it's in low sec at the moment. Moving it to high sec is no big deal, and we actually planned to move it to a system of the winner's choice when the draw is done.
/Sairait
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skilzrulz
Gallente OneZeRO Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.12.17 13:44:00 -
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Great lottery, hope people invest in a once and lifetime chance :)
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xbox
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Posted - 2007.12.17 14:04:00 -
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Edited by: xbox on 17/12/2007 14:04:46
Originally by: skilzrulz Great lottery, hope people invest in a once and lifetime chance :)
once in a life time chance to buy a ship that will sit in station doing nothing..... be honest you are hardly going to pvp or even mission run in such a ship......
gl on sales but i cant see many wanting to loose 2bill to start with, even with 1 in 49 chance :-)
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NightmareX
Infinitus Odium The Church.
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Posted - 2007.12.17 17:29:00 -
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Edited by: NightmareX on 17/12/2007 17:30:31 OMG, i'm so tempted to just buy one ticket.
You know me + a Tempest = ♥♥♥
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