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Arcon Telf
Gallente Vendetta Underground Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.12.17 02:42:00 -
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Edited by: Arcon Telf on 17/12/2007 02:43:04 I'm looking for all opinions on this issue. Please feel free to explain (as in back up your opinion, post complete setups, etc.), link to videos, whatever.
So here we go:
Which is better in your opinion: a Thorax with small tech 2 neutron blasters and a 1600mm plate, or a Thorax with medium electrons and an 800mm plate?
As for me, I'm hopelessly torn.
Ready, set, go!
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Marcus Druallis
Quantum Industries Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.12.17 03:25:00 -
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A Thorax with a full rack of medium neutrons and a dmg control tank. --
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Jei'son Bladesmith
The Storm Knights
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Posted - 2007.12.17 03:28:00 -
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anyone who puts frigate class weapons on a cruiser class ship for serious PvP should just be tickled to death by a flock of small flightless birds holding those electrostatic feather dusters.
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Merin Ryskin
FinFleet Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.12.17 03:33:00 -
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Depends on what you want to do with the ship and what your skills are:
The light neutron/1600mm plate setup is the best if you don't have the skills for T2 medium guns. T2 light neutrons will actually do better damage than T1 electrons, and it's a lot easier to fit with less than perfect fitting skills. But once you have better skills, it's completely obsolete.
The heavy electron setups provide the best balance. But you still use the 1600mm plate... 1600mm + RCU is far better than 800mm + medium rep, giving you equivalent HP to a few cycles of the rep, but without the unsustainable cap drain. This is probably the best setup for solo work.
For gangs, don't bother with a tank, since a Thorax that gets called as a target will go down almost instantly no matter what. Fit heavy neutron IIs, magstabs, and a damage control II.
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Marcus Druallis
Quantum Industries Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.12.17 04:08:00 -
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Originally by: Merin Ryskin
For gangs, don't bother with a tank, since a Thorax that gets called as a target will go down almost instantly no matter what. Fit heavy neutron IIs, magstabs, and a damage control II.
Hells yeah. Much <3 --
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Cpt Branko
The Bloody Red
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Posted - 2007.12.17 04:12:00 -
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Originally by: Marcus Druallis A Thorax with a full rack of medium neutrons and a dmg control tank.
Magstab II tank is ftw ;)
Rifters!
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J'ghathii
Caldari 54th Knights Templar Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.12.17 05:31:00 -
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1600mm plate and 4x Medium Electron's. That way you salvage at least some of your DPS.
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UGLYUGLY
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Posted - 2007.12.17 06:37:00 -
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Edited by: UGLYUGLY on 17/12/2007 06:37:54 You don't have to tank a wreck, go with medium neutrons.
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me bored
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Posted - 2007.12.17 06:59:00 -
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I miss shield tanked laser thoraxs.
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Aeaus
The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2007.12.17 07:14:00 -
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The one with more DPS. Simply for the pure reason that a Thorax won't be any to fit any decent passive tank even with a 1600 RT Plate, it's a cruiser, with huge bonuses to DPS, go for that :)
Plus, if I recall correctly, the setup Star Fraction fielded against BoB was with an 800mm Plate and Medium guns :)
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The Djego
Minmatar FORTES FORTUNA ADIUVAT CORP. Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2007.12.17 09:34:00 -
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Depends on your Gunnery Skills. As soon you can use T2 Meds and have deacend Gunnerys the 1600mm becomes pointless. Tested it with a Buddy, T2 Med Electrons with a 400mm or DCU II beat a Small Neutron T2 Setup with a 1600mm. And yeah a T2 Magstab should be on it. Nerf Tank, boost Gank! XD
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Kunming
The Coalition Of Buccaneers Mercenary Services
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Posted - 2007.12.17 09:39:00 -
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Dual SAR with full rack of med neutron IIs 4tW
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Grimpak
Gallente Trinity Nova
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Posted - 2007.12.17 09:42:00 -
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Originally by: Merin Ryskin For gangs, don't bother with a tank, since a Thorax that gets called as a target will go down almost instantly no matter what. Fit heavy neutron IIs, magstabs, and a damage control II.
this.
don't bother with tank. just worry about wtfpwning the guy the fastest you can. ---
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corroded
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Posted - 2007.12.17 11:18:00 -
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ship gets a bonus to mediums, so use em.
if youre afraid of getting hit, use ecm drones.
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Spaced Skunk
9omH
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Posted - 2007.12.17 11:20:00 -
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Edited by: Spaced Skunk on 17/12/2007 11:20:39
Originally by: corroded ship gets a bonus to mediums, so use em.
if youre afraid of getting hit, use ecm drones.
if your a afraid of getting hit, you should really be looking for a new game to play
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VicturusTeSaluto
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2007.12.17 11:21:00 -
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Edited by: VicturusTeSaluto on 17/12/2007 11:23:44 oh FFS.
People need to stop perpetuating the bull**** that small guns on a thorax is EVER a good setup. You will die to the first properly fitted Thorax/Vexor/Rupture that you encounter.
The sole point of the Thorax is DAMAGE. You will not get that if you are neglecting the ship's sole damage bonus.
If you want to fit small guns, use a Vexor. It is heaps more effective and most of the vexor's damage comes from the drones. Plate vexor with small guns = good setup. Plate rupture with dual 180's = good setup.
Plate thorax with small guns = horrible setup.
The only thing you will kill with the small guns thorax = noobs so just use bonused guns to actually kill them faster.
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Acoco Osiris
Gallente Sublime.
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Posted - 2007.12.17 11:21:00 -
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Medium guns are necessary. Any setup using light blasters will be out-damaged by a Vexor with a similar setup.
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Raxlar Kalimar
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Posted - 2007.12.17 11:33:00 -
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Either as ill still kill you in my stabber!
It will just take longer with the 1600mm plate.
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Forando
Interstellar Cowards
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Posted - 2007.12.17 12:50:00 -
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Edited by: Forando on 17/12/2007 12:55:33 To my knowledge, the whole heavy-plated cruiser-setup roots back to before the HP-buff ships got earlier. With 1600mm plate you were required to fit lower sized guns due to PG/CPU limitations. Now ships have a few more HP and a Thorax fare just fine in skirmish/pirating/gang as a gank-fitted blaster monster, with a DCII to give just a few extra resists, mainly to the hull.
Still, I think you're able to put medium blasters (might need to resort to Electrons) on and a 800mm plate if that's your thing, but really, if you want a bit more survivability just fetch 5 Medium ECM drones (they might help you pull through the fight if you get 2 vs. 1 also)
But to sum it up: I don't really see any reason not utilizing the great Medium Hybrid turret bonus the Throax has. Put Medium gunnery on it!
Edit: Capitalized Thorax, because size matters!
Enjoy, and fly safe..
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Jacob Holland
Gallente 19th Star Logistics
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Posted - 2007.12.17 13:03:00 -
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Medium guns.
The old Platerax set-up worked When it gave you the HP of a Battlecruiser but it doesn't have the same potency these days.
Incidentally, the Platerax setup I used to use had T2 150mm rails rather than Blasters, while the damage will have been lower it did allow you to orbit the target and therefore reduce the weight of incoming fire. --
Originally by: cordy
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McTaggart
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.12.17 13:32:00 -
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Originally by: Merin Ryskin The heavy electron setups provide the best balance. But you still use the 1600mm plate... 1600mm + RCU is far better than 800mm + medium rep, giving you equivalent HP to a few cycles of the rep, but without the unsustainable cap drain. This is probably the best setup for solo work.
Would it fit with two 800's rather than the 1600+RCU? Same hp, same mass, 2x800's use 100 less grid than the 1600, but the RCU might push it over.
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