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Kyle Semones
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2007.12.18 03:51:00 -
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well, i recently have gotten into minny command ships. ive got pretty darn good skills and such. just cant find a good setup
im split between, dmg or speed, passive or active tanks, and the combination of them.
high slots are easy. currently i use MID :: 10mnMWDii, warp dissyii, XL C5L booster, and 2x invul ii. LOW : 2x gyro, dmg cntrl, 2x overdrive RIGS : i have polycarbons just not installed yet.
the tank is 'ok' at best, eats a lot of cap...
mayb a passive extender setup would work ? mock it like a vaga? ive tried a bit of what ive seen on forums, sadly the only test i have is letting geminate region rats wail on it. the speed setups just dont make sense to me, even w/ rigs and sht i dont think it would be agile enough to out maneuver much else except BC size ships and up. idk. mayb im too used to the vaga...
so far i cant find a good setup.. getting really disappointed quickly..
anyways i need some honest to god PROVEN setups plz. A/C only.
thanks
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Aeaus
The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2007.12.18 03:53:00 -
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I believe the "FOTM" for Slipnirs is Speed Tank + Active Shield Tank.
Check... This Thread for a more then exhaustive set of mostly good setups :)
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Kyle Semones
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2007.12.18 04:01:00 -
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ya ive read those...
just seems like a bunch of wack setups or people who dont really have much exp.
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Horza Otho
Minmatar Cosmic Fusion
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Posted - 2007.12.18 04:09:00 -
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7x 425 II 1x 10mn mwd II 1x DG XL Booster 1x DG SBA 1x Domination WD 1x medium electrochem 3x gyro II 1x dcu II 1x local hull inertia 1x kinetic shield rig 1x shield boost cap usage rig 4x ecm drones
I use it for both awesomeness and ease of fitting, you can fit this with a t2 WD if you like, but i like 30km points. :D
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Kyle Semones
The Really Awesome Players
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Posted - 2007.12.18 04:12:00 -
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nice nice.. ill drop the money for the booster but tbh factino dang near everything is unreasonable for me but ill try out that setup w/ what i can. thanks
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Willy Joe
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Posted - 2007.12.18 04:41:00 -
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Edited by: Willy Joe on 18/12/2007 04:41:36 I do belive the whole point is outmaneuvering bc-sized vessels , and above , since there prolly won't be anything the size of a cruiser or smaller that would be a menace with that active tank.
Though , i guess it's not your best bet for gang pvp.
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Gunner Cid
The Carebear Stare
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Posted - 2007.12.18 07:36:00 -
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I've had great success with
HI 220s
MED T2 MWD Med ElectroChem Booster - 800 Invuln 2 Cl5 XL T2 Disruptor
LOW 3 Gyro 2 DC2 Swap between Signal Amp and a Istab
RIGS Kin Amp Therm Amp
3 Hammers 2 Hobgoblins
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goodby4u
Logistic Technologies Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.12.18 09:43:00 -
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1x mwd 10mn 2x shield exts 1x 24km scram 1x med cap booster(200s-250s) speed mods polycarbons. or 1x mwd 10mn 3x shield exts 1x 24km scram speed mods polycarbons.
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Cpt Branko
The Bloody Red
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Posted - 2007.12.18 11:23:00 -
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Originally by: Kyle Semones well, i recently have gotten into minny command ships. ive got pretty darn good skills and such. just cant find a good setup
im split between, dmg or speed, passive or active tanks, and the combination of them.
high slots are easy. currently i use MID :: 10mnMWDii, warp dissyii, XL C5L booster, and 2x invul ii. LOW : 2x gyro, dmg cntrl, 2x overdrive RIGS : i have polycarbons just not installed yet.
the tank is 'ok' at best, eats a lot of cap...
mayb a passive extender setup would work ? mock it like a vaga? ive tried a bit of what ive seen on forums, sadly the only test i have is letting geminate region rats wail on it. the speed setups just dont make sense to me, even w/ rigs and sht i dont think it would be agile enough to out maneuver much else except BC size ships and up. idk. mayb im too used to the vaga...
so far i cant find a good setup.. getting really disappointed quickly..
anyways i need some honest to god PROVEN setups plz. A/C only.
thanks
Well, I don't know. I automatically don't like named shield booster on a command ship, though.
I've been relatively successful with a semi-nano / semi passive shield tank Cyclone (although it does waste a ship bonus unfortunately), and with a Sleipnir I'd probably go along the same route because five mids just aren't enough for a good cap boosted active shield tank plus PvP gear, and it is going to cap out using a SB for any decent period of time.
I guess you could try messing with a Cyclone first, fitting-wise it's essentially the same ship with much much less damage and one lowslot less.
I'm about two months away from a command ship anyway, so I can't really help you much.
Rifters!
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MattFighT
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Posted - 2007.12.18 12:03:00 -
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Hi, I fly the sleipnir for about 5 months now, and finally i think that the best setup is to have enough speed to be able to disengage in a fight against BS's or BC's. that means around 2km/s.
I have 7 X 425mm II (the Dps diference between 425mm and 220mm is really higher in game than in theory, you can't break a BS tank fitted with 220mm )
In mid slot I went for an active tank, in order to use the bonus : caldary navy x-large Shield Booster, invulnerability field II, electrochem med cap inj, 10mn mwd II, warp Dis II. I swap the warp disrupt for a shield boost amp II when i am in gang.
Low slots are 3 gyro's, 1 nano II and a damage control. Rigs are 1 kinetic, 1 polycarb. Drones are 4 medium ECM.
It goes 1,9km/s in gang, I got 8,8 dammage mod, and 2,4 rof. Fitted with hail, i can break nearly all BS's tank, and all command ships tank. ( but you have to go into web range, so it's only worth in a 1v1 fight )
I am at the top of most killmail, and i have only 1 advice, with this setup, you can't really tank sentry fire ...
Hope this can help you with your fitting.
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Gunner Cid
The Carebear Stare Blood Blind
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Posted - 2007.12.18 19:27:00 -
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Originally by: MattFighT Hi, I have 7 X 425mm II (the Dps diference between 425mm and 220mm is really higher in game than in theory, you can't break a BS tank fitted with 220mm )
hrm, I am pushing almost 900 dps with my Sleip with 220's, I assure you that it can break a BS tank.
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Little Wabbit
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Posted - 2007.12.18 19:55:00 -
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Originally by: Kyle Semones high slots are easy. currently i use MID :: 10mnMWDii, warp dissyii, XL C5L booster, and 2x invul ii. LOW : 2x gyro, dmg cntrl, 2x overdrive RIGS : i have polycarbons just not installed yet.
the tank is 'ok' at best, eats a lot of cap...
dunno if it fits, but a sba will get you a better tank than the 2nd invul
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nabort
Immoral Tendancies
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Posted - 2007.12.18 20:01:00 -
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Originally by: Gunner Cid hrm, I am pushing almost 900 dps with my Sleip with 220's, I assure you that it can break a BS tank.
Hmm, do you have maxed skills? I'm only getting 775 DPS or so with 7x 425mm IIs w/Hail, 3 Gyro IIs, 3x Hammerhead IIs and 2x Hobgob IIs.
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Last Wolf
Templars of Space
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Posted - 2007.12.18 20:13:00 -
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Edited by: Last Wolf on 18/12/2007 20:13:37 rapid fire, surgical strike both to V. some 5% all turret ROF and 5% medium projectile damage implants (assuming you don't have these).
making a lot of assumptions and approximations here. Cause i'm lazy.
~675dps from guns (100dps from drones sounds about right with good skills). 675 * 1.05 * 1.05 * 1.05 * 1.05 = 820.5
add the 100 dps back in. and you get 920 dps.
Yes yes, I know 5% ROF > 5% damage, but if anything your actual DPS would be higher than 920. So its still a reasonable approximation.
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nabort
Immoral Tendancies
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Posted - 2007.12.18 21:09:00 -
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Hmm, done some calcs: max skills and the all turret 5% ROF and med. proj turret 5% damage increase gets 905 DPS.
The all turret ROF implant is a little out of my budget, but at least i can get the 5% damage implant and aim towards CS 5 and surgical strike 5
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Gunner Cid
The Carebear Stare Blood Blind
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Posted - 2007.12.18 21:42:00 -
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Originally by: nabort Hmm, done some calcs: max skills and the all turret 5% ROF and med. proj turret 5% damage increase gets 905 DPS.
The all turret ROF implant is a little out of my budget, but at least i can get the 5% damage implant and aim towards CS 5 and surgical strike 5
I said pushing 900, exact is 869 with my skills. I do have 5% DMG and ROF implants with 5's in gunnery.
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