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Kingzolo
The Bastards
The Bastards.
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Posted - 2012.02.06 18:23:00 -
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Mutnin wrote:Kingzolo wrote:Also... This Tengu is actually engaging multiple targets 5+ in more occasions.. Try to imangine if there was a fleet of 4-5 tengus - Would be massacre.
Again, they should nerf that 100mn somehow, when put on cruisers/BC, becayse this is madness. 5k m/s and suerb accel/agility is just dumb. Only counter shuold be the Bhallgorn with min. complex webs, becuase all other web ships will just die secs after webbing.
100mn on cruiser class ships:
-100% agility penalty
-100% Acceleration penalty. (maybe even more)
With theese penaties rapiers and others with webs might have a chance of slowing it enough for others to catch up. You are being tarded.. at no point did he ever even get close to 5km/s Best was just slightly over 3.5km/s but when going that fast the ship turns like a flying Brick.
Actually sir, you are beeing retarted and shuold watch the vidio closer before u comment. - get to 18min and 35 sec. The Tengu reaches 4800 m/s OH and you can see that he isent even maxed out. And the thing about turning like a brick - well yes its shuold be like that but it sure aint. Keeping an orbit at sometime with over 2200 m/s on 20km isent brick like unfortunatly.
Some side info btw for u guys thiking about webs.
-at a point he is beeing webed by a rapier and still goin 2200 m/s
-Later on he has webs on him from rapier+drake still goin 800+ m/s. |
Princess Nexxala
The Rock Hard Roosters
Villore Accords
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Posted - 2012.02.06 18:30:00 -
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Buff the Tengu please!
Oh sorry wrong thread
Is sexy time? |
Outz Xacto
Echelon Munitions
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Posted - 2012.02.06 18:55:00 -
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ITT:
People complaining about months of skill training for specific purposes, billions of isk spent, and the use of two accounts. |
Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
275
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Posted - 2012.02.06 18:59:00 -
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100Mn AB Tengu has no equal, especially not when boosted by a T3 alt as done in that video .. anything fast enough to catch/stop it dies before its in any danger.
Only thing one has to be wary of is neuting so a wide berth around Curses when they come around, but then that's the story for pretty much all ships so 'meh' 
Also, "lol" at buffing all other T3s, aka. making all four as OP compared to all other ships as the Tengu is ..
Limit ability to oversize by increasing fitting requirement on likely/commonly used modules .. plates, drives, extenders, booster et al., or reduce fittings to allow anything and everything to be oversized by all ships and tweak penalties instead (ex. drives to increase mass by more than current). |
Fredfredbug4
Kings of Kill
EVE Animal Control
35
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Posted - 2012.02.06 20:40:00 -
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He's probably receiving bonuses while having good implants and a pimped out ship.
I've seen similar performances in other ships.
Tengu's are ships that give you more bang for your buck. The more bucks you put in, the more bang you get. Clearly this guy made a hefty investment and is now reaping the benefits. |
Hemmo Paskiainen
Silver Snake Enterprise
Against ALL Authorities
298
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Posted - 2012.02.06 21:53:00 -
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because of a 5b snaked tengu? (with rf point)
CCP FIX BLACK OPS FFS |
Dztrgovac
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Posted - 2012.02.06 22:07:00 -
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Fredfredbug4 wrote:He's probably receiving bonuses while having good implants and a pimped out ship.
I've seen similar performances in other ships.
Tengu's are ships that give you more bang for your buck. The more bucks you put in, the more bang you get. Clearly this guy made a hefty investment and is now reaping the benefits.
There is no if to any of those.
Said pilot can afford to lose couple of 1.5-3B Tengus each month so we see his fits. Achieving those web and point ranges even with faction gear (which he uses) requires pretty much perfectly skilled T3 link booster. He opens his inventory at one time and we see quafe zero and standard blue pill.
But. It has been official position of CCP that while isk and skill should of course give pilots the edge; they mustn't allow solopwnmobiles. That was why old nano died all those years ago.
Simple fact is that overzied AB Tengu is broken. Same as 7kms Vagas were broken. Any non nano setup trying to emulate this (faction and deadspace gear + max skilled T3 booster) would die miserably fighting that much people at same time.
Boosted oversized AB T3s are revival of old nano ships. Able to engage and disengage at will, and so having sufficient survivability to make muilti bilion isk pimp fits worth the money. |
Kingzolo
The Bastards
The Bastards.
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Posted - 2012.02.06 22:11:00 -
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I agree its expensive - but what other ship can u pimp to this kind of crasyness?
100% hit garanteed up to 100+km - no tracking.
Up to 450+ dps.
Cant get scrambled obviously, and takes at least 3 webs to get under 1k m/s.
3.5m/s AB - 5k+ m/s OH if u shuold get in trouble.
150 Signature radius which means most ships over cruiser size wont be able to track you or catch u for the record.
tanks 450+ omni dps. which almost never is nessesary becuase no one is ever close to you and if they are they cant track you.
cap stable.
all this is even without any kind of boosters. |
Stygian Knight
Blood Covenant
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2012.02.06 22:28:00 -
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tengu is ok, no need for nerf.
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chatgris
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Villore Accords
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Posted - 2012.02.06 22:34:00 -
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Dztrgovac wrote:
Simple fact is that overzied AB Tengu is broken. Same as 7kms Vagas were broken. Any non nano setup trying to emulate this (faction and deadspace gear + max skilled T3 booster) would die miserably fighting that much people at same time.
Boosted oversized AB T3s are revival of old nano ships. Able to engage and disengage at will, and so having sufficient survivability to make muilti bilion isk pimp fits worth the money.
They really aren't overpowered at all: Their terrible agility makes them easy to catch. Look at this for example
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=14829964
We lost a single rupture taking down that apparently OP uncatchable tengu you complain about. About half of the ships on the killmail (all 7 in total) are 3 t1 frigates. All I had to do was wait until I saw the tengu trying to turn around (which takes forever with a 100MN AB burner), overheat my MWD in a nano drake and put my two webs on him and he went nowhere.
The people that tengu was fighting in that video were mostly poorly skilled pilots flying armor tanked close range ships. People like that are food for any kind of long range nano ship.
If anything is over (or under) powered it's close range armor ships vs nano ships with range. But that's not a tengu specific issue. |
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
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Posted - 2012.02.07 00:13:00 -
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All "nerfTengoo!!111!!!" whingers are idiots, and should feel ashamed of themselves.
It's axiomatic, really.
I are kyute kitten!
I are in ur mishun!
Redoosin' teh lag by ninja'ing ur wrekz!
(CCP: Make wrecks probable, and after 30min., tractorable.) |
Derth Ramir
Xenuria.
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Posted - 2012.02.07 06:13:00 -
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Hi Mr. 100mn Tengu im a dual web loki. |
Pulgy
Spiritus Draconis
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Posted - 2012.02.07 07:55:00 -
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chatgris wrote:
If anything is over (or under) powered it's close range armor ships vs nano ships with range. But that's not a tengu specific issue.
now now chat let us not get rational in a thread like this.
Monkeys writing-á Shakespeare?
That's like putting CCP in charge of game balance and content updates. |
Kingzolo
The Bastards
The Bastards.
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Posted - 2012.02.07 08:57:00 -
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Derth Ramir wrote:Hi Mr. 100mn Tengu im a dual web loki.
Take a look in the video newb,lots of Dual Web ships! And WHO the **** has a Dual Web 100mn loki WHO Can catcher up? None |
Outz Xacto
Echelon Munitions
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Posted - 2012.02.07 09:14:00 -
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Kingzolo wrote:Derth Ramir wrote:Hi Mr. 100mn Tengu im a dual web loki. Take a look in the video newb,lots of Dual Web ships! And WHO the **** has a Dual Web 100mn loki WHO Can catcher up? None
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSoFCC26KGw&list=UUbKKhS4xtzzLFvQy7yRjU4g&index=1&feature=plcp
I'll just put this here. |
Hidden Snake
Inglorious-Basterds
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Posted - 2012.02.07 12:22:00 -
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it is possible to kill 100mn tengu with t1/t2 ships... however u have to dual web neut it blob it ....
we killed two in last month and in both cases had some losses..... and in both cases pilots made quite serious tactical misstake.
Question is if u really have to nerf it as it is really expensive and sp demanding (like cynabals or machs for example) to properly fit and fly. Noob tengus will burn in flames if deployed in combat (and sometimes they do). Experienced pilot will cause havoc in many situations (like station gaming carrier), but there is allways some way to counter the ****.
BTW if they will increase sig radius of tengu to 250 >>> more dead tengus (if u really want nerf).
I think that for solo work is surprisingly worst loki (the most notorious booster of the universe).
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Public ch.: Basterds on vacation-á |
Christine Peeveepeeski
Killing With Kindness
The Obsidian Front
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Posted - 2012.02.07 14:42:00 -
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Yeah, first time I met a 100mn tengu with booster was this guy. Props to him, he blew up my noctis because i was asleep at the wheel, I reshipped to a few combat ships (dual boxing) without understanding what the fit could do. I then lost the hurricane and got the drake out. Had him webbed twice, scrammed an neuted. Just couldn't get him slowed down... mental.
Not sure if its OP or of the ease of getting ISK to build it is.....
Now I know to avoid it when by myself :D
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K1RTH G3RS3N
New Eden Trading and Resources
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Posted - 2012.02.07 14:49:00 -
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lol ccp nerfed nano.
players will find a way |
Dztrgovac
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Posted - 2012.02.07 15:53:00 -
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Well just to say that in olden days with 90% webs you still had issues of nano ships gliding out of web range on inertia. |
Larofeticus
Sons Of 0din
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.02.07 19:36:00 -
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All three fuel catalyst subsystem bonuses should be limited to 10mn afterburners.
Problem solved.
Every other ship bonus limits to modules of the size appropriate for the hull; to do so uniformly except for this this single subsystem is asinine. |
lolcorpholder alt
ebil piwates inc.
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Posted - 2012.02.07 20:50:00 -
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Larofeticus wrote:All three fuel catalyst subsystem bonuses should be limited to 10mn afterburners.
Problem solved.
Every other ship bonus limits to modules of the size appropriate for the hull; to do so uniformly except for this this single subsystem is asinine.
Except that rate of fire bonuses actually apply to all weapon types in most cases |
Outz Xacto
Echelon Munitions
9
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Posted - 2012.02.07 21:07:00 -
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lolcorpholder alt wrote:Larofeticus wrote:All three fuel catalyst subsystem bonuses should be limited to 10mn afterburners.
Problem solved.
Every other ship bonus limits to modules of the size appropriate for the hull; to do so uniformly except for this this single subsystem is asinine. Except that rate of fire bonuses actually apply to all weapon types in most cases
Glad someone noticed this uninformed post. |
Robertson Nolen
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2012.02.08 05:56:00 -
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Kingzolo wrote:Derth Ramir wrote:Hi Mr. 100mn Tengu im a dual web loki. Take a look in the video newb,lots of Dual Web ships! And WHO the **** has a Dual Web 100mn loki WHO Can catcher up? None
Speed and shield tanking with cap boosters? NO WAY CALL THE POLICE! CCP should make sure the tengu cannot fly over 100m/s and has terrible cap. All pilots who are good at flying them should be banned now. |
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Pirate Nation.
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Posted - 2012.02.08 06:35:00 -
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I have engaged one of these which was solo and been in fleet battles agasint a load of them. And I do not think they should be nerfed, and I have to ask why is it when something interesting, a challenge is there you lot want to nerf it. Its like the Drake, its different, it has a tank and lower DPS and now its going to b echanged to a higher DPS and lower tank and that hurts noobs. In this case you are going after players who have set themselves up with training and implants and boosters like this to have an advantage in a very expensive ship.
Now it is not pleasent when your on the receiving end of these Tengu's but for gods sake man up and work out how to beat them instead of hitting the nerf button.
And I seriously disagree with the coming nerf to the Drake, great way to hurt newer players CCP. |
Calsys
Monks of War
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Posted - 2012.02.08 18:29:00 -
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why one ship is so overpowered?
CCP nerf 100mn ab@Tengu and other ships!
PROOF |
Calsys
Monks of War
41
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Posted - 2012.02.08 18:36:00 -
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Dracvlad wrote:
And I seriously disagree with the coming nerf to the Drake, great way to hurt newer players CCP.
why other players (not caldari\drakes pilots) must suffer? 
oh wai... |
Princess Nexxala
The Rock Hard Roosters
Villore Accords
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Posted - 2012.02.08 19:03:00 -
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Na, for the cost of that thing its a bit underpowered...should be able to give a bj as well
Calsys wrote:why one ship is so overpowered? CCP nerf 100mn ab@Tengu and other ships! PROOF
Is sexy time? |
Roosterton
Syndicalis Immortalis
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Posted - 2012.02.08 19:22:00 -
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90% web Daredevil.
That is all.
Alternatively, as I mentioned in another thread: Neut Dominix + tanky Huginn. |
Calsys
Monks of War
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Posted - 2012.02.08 19:30:00 -
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Roosterton wrote:90% web Daredevil.
That is all.
Alternatively, as I mentioned in another thread: Neut Dominix + tanky Huginn.
yea-yeah
just simple words
nothing more
dd - easy enemy for tengu
neutr domi?
lol?
orbit it at 30km = km domi you got padawan :D |
Mutnin
SQUIDS.
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Posted - 2012.02.08 19:42:00 -
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Calsys wrote:why one ship is so overpowered? CCP nerf 100mn ab@Tengu and other ships! PROOF
They are beatable, with out ridiculous gang sizes but you have to be prepared to fight them. I fought one today as well as his 2 Hurricane buddies. I had 2 Drakes but ended up having to bail, due to burning out MWD trying to keep range from the Hurricanes. I would have lost 1 Drake in the fight had I stayed, but had I been better prepared the fight could of turned back to my favor.
The deal is you really have to fit your ship to counter the 100MN Tengu but it can be beaten. While it might be a tad OP I wouldn't say it needs to be nerf'd just yet. People just whine because their cookie cutter fits can't counter it.
btw When did the Machieral whines change to Tengu whines?
also nerf Drakes... |
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