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Ethyn
Caldari Wings of Redemption Black Flag Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.19 18:50:00 -
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Why was the Oynx announced as using the Caracal hull and then upon release uses the Moa hull?
I was really looking forward to the new Oynx with the Caracal hull.
Anyone know why it was changed? (Dev's)
GO Fast or Die!
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Hans Angry
Caldari Pyrrhus Sicarii The Church.
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Posted - 2007.12.19 18:51:00 -
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because they wanted to make you sad Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content. And it was ten times too big :p If you would like further details please mail [email protected] - Cortes
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Waxau
The Fated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.12.19 18:59:00 -
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Was changed due to the fact that all other races had their tier 4 cruiser hulls, and caracal is tier 3
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Ethyn
Caldari Wings of Redemption Black Flag Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.19 19:02:00 -
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Originally by: Waxau Was changed due to the fact that all other races had their tier 4 cruiser hulls, and caracal is tier 3
That's what I've heard. Pretty lame. The Moa is a hideous.
GO Fast or Die!
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Alyth
Gallente Dichotomy Total Comfort
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Posted - 2007.12.19 19:10:00 -
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Originally by: Ethyn
Originally by: Waxau Was changed due to the fact that all other races had their tier 4 cruiser hulls, and caracal is tier 3
That's what I've heard. Pretty lame. The Moa is a hideous.
So is the Maller but you don't hear the amarr complaining do you? Oh wait....
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates Enuma Elish.
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Posted - 2007.12.19 19:15:00 -
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Official reason? Because basing it off the Caracal hull would actually have a significant skew on it's cost/difficulty to invent.
Unofficial reason? It's to make griefing easier, so you can orbit someone, permatackling and permatanking them, forcing them to look at your UGLY ship. -- Crane needs more grid 249km locking? GMP and TNP |
Corphus
The NewOrder
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Posted - 2007.12.19 19:34:00 -
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Originally by: Alyth
Originally by: Ethyn
Originally by: Waxau Was changed due to the fact that all other races had their tier 4 cruiser hulls, and caracal is tier 3
That's what I've heard. Pretty lame. The Moa is a hideous.
So is the Maller but you don't hear the amarr complaining do you? Oh wait....
taste is something which seems to differ a lot. imo the maller is looking awsome especially if u understand the amarrian designphilosophy and the ideas the concept artists had in mind creating the amarrian line.
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Ral Ulgur
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.12.19 21:51:00 -
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I appreciate the changes. Even though the moa is not the best looking ship, the onyx should not be out of line with the other Hictors.
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Caldorous
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.12.19 22:13:00 -
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moa is more expensive than a caracal right?
then, they wanted to make the hactor more expensive without increasing the number of datacores needed
what? it's a valid opinion -----------------------------
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Enkilil
Minmatar Carbon Moon Corporation
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Posted - 2007.12.19 22:51:00 -
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Awww I like the Moa compared to the looks of the Caracal... but that's just cause I liked the Gila so much.
How does the Onyx look with the classic content, btw? I haven't seen one yet.... or does it just look like the Moa?
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achoura
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Posted - 2007.12.19 23:00:00 -
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Actually it was changed because of the ship manufacturer, funny how ppl always forget about them. :P
Coincidently they also produce the flycatcher, another rail boat gone missile =D. The phoibos was supposed to follow the same vein (eris, Lachesis etc.) but only received one launcher hard point and a gun bonus it's a shame it didn't, capless weapons are only a plus for the tank. ***The EVE servers and their patches*** |
Ethyn
Caldari Wings of Redemption Black Flag Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.20 14:00:00 -
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Yeah I guess it doesn't really matter I would still be flying a cerb over a oynx regardless of what hull it used.
GO Fast or Die!
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HippoKing
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.20 14:57:00 -
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Originally by: Caldorous moa is more expensive than a caracal right?
then, they wanted to make the hactor more expensive without increasing the number of datacores needed
what? it's a valid opinion
It's the exact reason it was done. All the other HICs had tier 3 hulls, and thus were harder to invent and cost more than the caracal-based Onyx. CCP changed it to moa-based to bring it inline.
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates Enuma Elish.
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Posted - 2007.12.20 16:09:00 -
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Originally by: Ethyn Yeah I guess it doesn't really matter I would still be flying a cerb over a oynx regardless of what hull it used.
You don't think that: An extra mid 200 more powergrid A highslot warp disruptor (so freeing another mid) - that's 28km - and is infinite point And better resists layout for omnitanking
Doesn't make this an awesome ship? -- Crane needs more grid 249km locking? GMP and TNP |
Paulo Damarr
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Posted - 2007.12.20 16:34:00 -
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The updated Moa doesn't look so bad compared to to the old one, it looks like the designers said "Reactor? check, Engines? check, Turret mounts? check, crew thingy? check, Where do we put this stuff? anywhere just bolt it all together"
Typical of the Caldari mindset really. *moderated - removed to facilitate search query* |
Waxau
The Fated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.12.20 16:53:00 -
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Originally by: Ethyn Yeah I guess it doesn't really matter I would still be flying a cerb over a oynx regardless of what hull it used.
Yes, except the fact that theyre nothing alike, bar from race, and missile range...kinda makes what you typed all that more pointless really, no?
Its a Dictor, not a hac. If you were only going to fly it for its missile damage/range...lol.
We need a new forum section, like Character selling : "Clue Selling"
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Keijo
Hobbit Enterprises GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.20 16:58:00 -
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Originally by: Paulo Damarr The updated Moa doesn't look so bad compared to to the old one, it looks like the designers said "Reactor? check, Engines? check, Turret mounts? check, crew thingy? check, Where do we put this stuff? anywhere just bolt it all together"
Typical of the Matari mindset really.
Fixt.
Moa was "worst-in-game" hideous before, but I haven't seen it in Trinity so maybe that honor belongs to the Blackbird now.
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Paulo Damarr
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Posted - 2007.12.20 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: Keijo
Originally by: Paulo Damarr The updated Moa doesn't look so bad compared to to the old one, it looks like the designers said "Reactor? check, Engines? check, Turret mounts? check, crew thingy? check, Where do we put this stuff? anywhere just bolt it all together"
Typical of the Matari mindset really.
Fixt.
Moa was "worst-in-game" hideous before, but I haven't seen it in Trinity so maybe that honor belongs to the Blackbird now.
Minmatar havnt got around to using bolts yet though But the Blackbird looks great in Trinity the worst is probably the Cormerant now and it used to be one of the best. *moderated - removed to facilitate search query* |
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