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Callean Drevus
Icosahedron Crafts and Shipping Silent Infinity
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Posted - 2011.12.07 09:06:00 -
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Actually, the minimum for the market call is 3 seconds, which is why it's at that value by default :P you could make it slower, but you can't make it any faster (unless CCP has changed something without my notice).
The new uploader should follow an alltogether different format of entering that data. Developer/Creator of EVE Marketeer
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Maeste Madeveda
The Spawning Pool Team Liquid
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Posted - 2011.12.08 12:40:00 -
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Hello Callean,
I was starting to use your website because it the shiniest one and I love shiny stuff. However as I wished to register, the site denied me the entry without sending me back any error message. Am I not good enough for your upload club ? :(
Win 7 x64 Chrome 13.0.767.1 |
Turhan Bey
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.12.08 19:56:00 -
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I've just noticed that I'm receiving a lot of:
Debug: upload: uploading to http://www.evemarketeer.com/api/upload Debug: upload: uploader.send = 200, OK Debug: upload: response=0: The upload cannot come from the future Error: Upload unknown problem: 0: The upload cannot come from the future Debug: returned from upload function
I'm definitely not doing anything that allows me to see future market values, but I sure wish that I could. :)
EDIT: BTW, it doesn't happen for all items. There doesn't seem to be a pattern to exactly which items as far as I can tell. Some example item ID's that caused it in the Verge Vendor region, in case it helps:
20843 13239 30078 32108 28471 21238 22577 |
Zaepho
Phoenix Propulsion Labs RED Citizens
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Posted - 2011.12.08 20:08:00 -
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Turhan Bey wrote:I've just noticed that I'm receiving a lot of: Debug: upload: uploading to http://www.evemarketeer.com/api/uploadDebug: upload: uploader.send = 200, OK Debug: upload: response=0: The upload cannot come from the future Error: Upload unknown problem: 0: The upload cannot come from the future Debug: returned from upload function
Possibly clock skew by a few seconds or something along those lines? |
Callean Drevus
Icosahedron Crafts and Shipping Silent Infinity
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Posted - 2011.12.08 22:21:00 -
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Maeste, I've just send you an EVE Mail, registration should be working again. It was indeed broken for a few days, but people were very fast to point it out :)
The only reason for the values to come from the future is indeed if your system clock is by some reason ahead of the EVE clock. This has been built in mostly to prevent people from sending illegal data that will always be seen as the most recent. I might relax the requirement a bit so as not to fall over a few seconds difference :) Developer/Creator of EVE Marketeer
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Zaepho
Phoenix Propulsion Labs RED Citizens
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Posted - 2011.12.08 22:49:00 -
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Callean Drevus wrote: The only reason for the values to come from the future is indeed if your system clock is by some reason ahead of the EVE clock. This has been built in mostly to prevent people from sending illegal data that will always be seen as the most recent. I might relax the requirement a bit so as not to fall over a few seconds difference :)
I don't suppose you have a log of these skew values to make an intelligent decision of how far off is commonly acceptable? I would think about 5 or 10 seconds should be MORE than plenty but I'm confident my machines talk to a decent NTP server on a regular basis :) |
Turhan Bey
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.12.08 23:38:00 -
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Likewise, I use NTP so I shouldn't be much more than a second or two different. Unless of course the EVE servers don't and they are drifting. I agree that 10s or so should be sufficient to deter false data but still account for sync issues. |
Grimdahl
The Leather Knights Sev3rance
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Posted - 2011.12.09 15:41:00 -
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Is there any order filtering applied eg. drop order with highest price?
Reason for my question is: I compared market order data from Eve-Central and Eve-Marketeer and found 1 order missing (Minmatar shuttle : sell order 888.888.888 ISK in Jita).
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Callean Drevus
Icosahedron Crafts and Shipping Silent Infinity
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Posted - 2011.12.09 23:22:00 -
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A lot of order filtering is applied. It drops all outrageous orders. Developer/Creator of EVE Marketeer
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Turhan Bey
EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.12.10 20:35:00 -
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Minor request: Upon opening the EMK Uploader window, please don't make the "EVE Marketdata Upload ID" field selected by default. Any accidental typing wipes out the field.
I've gotten into the habit of clicking in the Log field after every launch. But it would be nice if that were unnecessary. |
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Callean Drevus
Icosahedron Crafts and Shipping Silent Infinity
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Posted - 2011.12.10 20:48:00 -
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Rest assured :P the new uploader won't do any such thing ;) Developer/Creator of EVE Marketeer
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Scrapyard Bob
EVE University Ivy League
452
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Posted - 2011.12.10 23:18:00 -
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Zaepho wrote: I don't suppose you have a log of these skew values to make an intelligent decision of how far off is commonly acceptable? I would think about 5 or 10 seconds should be MORE than plenty but I'm confident my machines talk to a decent NTP server on a regular basis :)
Well, the "windows time server" a.k.a. "time.windows.com" is commonly off by a bit. And older WinXP machines will only sync with the server about once a week unless you play with the registry or belong to a Windows domain. So 2-3 seconds is not uncommon on normal Windows boxes.
So I'd say 5 seconds should be fine, unless someone's machine is lagged in which case maybe you have to go with 10 seconds.
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Dragonaire
Corax. PURgE Alliance
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Posted - 2011.12.11 00:46:00 -
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I'd allow 10 lag and 5 ahead and it shouldn't be a problem after that. Finds camping stations from the inside much easier. Designer of Yapeal for Eve API. Check out the Yapeal forum thread |
Callean Drevus
Icosahedron Crafts and Shipping Silent Infinity
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Posted - 2011.12.11 09:24:00 -
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Well, atm I only check whether a message comes from the future. I do not really mind getting messages from anywhere in the past. That is mostly due to the fact that uploads might end up in a queue and be recieved a lot later than they were generated, and I do not wish to exclude those.
Oh, the new uploader will probably be using a bit more memory than the old one, a function of how I deal with threaded uploading and still clearing the cache quickly. As long as you upload decently fast (and do not have 200 endpoints) it shouldn't be problematic though ('m thinking a few MB's of ram). Developer/Creator of EVE Marketeer
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Scrapyard Bob
EVE University Ivy League
452
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Posted - 2011.12.11 15:04:00 -
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The existing EVEMarketeer uploader reports as about 47MB used (peak) in Win7 64bit. (The EMD uploader is very similar size.)
So unless you blow that up to more then 80-ish, you should be fine. |
Callean Drevus
Icosahedron Crafts and Shipping Silent Infinity
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Posted - 2011.12.11 17:45:00 -
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I present to you, the unified uploader: http://www.evemarketeer.com/downloads
You can now add any number of endpoints, have EVE Central lagging behind all other endpoints without any trouble and it be generally awesome and out of your way.
Currently only downloadable as a zip archive, but it'll change once I've worked out all the bugs. I invite you to try it out! Developer/Creator of EVE Marketeer
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Dragonaire
Corax. PURgE Alliance
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Posted - 2011.12.12 07:39:00 -
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Quick bug report here for you Warning: Invalid argument supplied for foreach() in /var/www/www.evemarketeer.com/mod/item.php on line 88 Market statistics and information for New Eden Catchable fatal error: Object of class yapeal could not be converted to string in /var/www/www.evemarketeer.com/var/dc9f76fa4c888904204769a29d0ad5f2.d15.php on line 15 Finds camping stations from the inside much easier. Designer of Yapeal for Eve API. Check out the Yapeal forum thread |
Controller Vrelk
New Eden Regimental Navy Rebel Alliance of New Eden
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Posted - 2011.12.12 07:40:00 -
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Callean Drevus wrote:I present to you, the unified uploader: http://www.evemarketeer.com/downloadsYou can now add any number of endpoints, have EVE Central lagging behind all other endpoints without any trouble and it be generally awesome and out of your way. Currently only downloadable as a zip archive, but it'll change once I've worked out all the bugs. I invite you to try it out!
Looks nice.
1) You did forget the 's' in universal under data types when adding a site.
2) [Edit] A restart of the program fixed this, but still not sure why it happened the first time.[/edit] Also, you might want to fix the cache folder. It starts out with the windows username of Bart, and autodetect isn't changing it on my desktop, though it does fix it on my laptop. Maybe have it autodetect on first startup.
Quote:Traceback (most recent call last): File "UploaderFrame.pyo", line 303, in installationAutodetectButtonClick AttributeError: Installation instance has no attribute 'folder_base'
3) Maybe add a upload log like before so we can tell if its working. if it does have one, then it isnt working for me. |
Dragonaire
Corax. PURgE Alliance
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Posted - 2011.12.12 08:06:00 -
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On another note Not sure if the new uploader is doing anything it doesn't seem to be uploading anything Finds camping stations from the inside much easier. Designer of Yapeal for Eve API. Check out the Yapeal forum thread |
Controller Vrelk
New Eden Regimental Navy Rebel Alliance of New Eden
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Posted - 2011.12.12 08:21:00 -
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Dragonaire wrote:On another note Not sure if the new uploader is doing anything it doesn't seem to be uploading anything Odd, my upload history on the site is completely empty. |
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Dragonaire
Corax. PURgE Alliance
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Posted - 2011.12.12 16:07:00 -
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Mine seems to have done some uploads now but only after disabling the other sites and a couple restarts Finds camping stations from the inside much easier. Designer of Yapeal for Eve API. Check out the Yapeal forum thread |
Callean Drevus
Icosahedron Crafts and Shipping Silent Infinity
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Posted - 2011.12.12 17:57:00 -
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Hmm, the only problem I am aware of is having to restart after autodetecting for the shizzle to work. I'll see wha I can do about these current troubles. The upload log should be working :P if it isn't showing anything, it isn't uploading. Developer/Creator of EVE Marketeer
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Controller Vrelk
New Eden Regimental Navy Rebel Alliance of New Eden
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Posted - 2011.12.12 20:11:00 -
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Callean Drevus wrote:Hmm, the only problem I am aware of is having to restart after autodetecting for the shizzle to work. I'll see wha I can do about these current troubles. The upload log should be working :P if it isn't showing anything, it isn't uploading. The new uploader isn't uploading anything on either of my computers. |
Scrapyard Bob
EVE University Ivy League
452
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Posted - 2011.12.13 04:12:00 -
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Will try this when you release the new version (I promise). |
Controller Vrelk
New Eden Regimental Navy Rebel Alliance of New Eden
2
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Posted - 2011.12.13 06:09:00 -
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Counting is either off again or still off for ratting. In the past 24 hours I have made between 50-70 mill, not 292,519,637.50 as the site says.
Edit: The correct count is 105 mill, though it was actually in the range I said above due to having another person there. |
Callean Drevus
Icosahedron Crafts and Shipping Silent Infinity
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Posted - 2011.12.13 17:12:00 -
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Counting is still off Developer/Creator of EVE Marketeer
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Dragonaire
Corax. PURgE Alliance
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Posted - 2011.12.13 17:56:00 -
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I've just been thinking about something and thought I'd ask here. How do you come up with the list of stuff in the general list for the scans? Do you just do it randomly or by market group or are you trying to get the best coverage for things you don't have data on yet? Or have you not really thought about how to optimize things? Finds camping stations from the inside much easier. Designer of Yapeal for Eve API. Check out the Yapeal forum thread |
Callean Drevus
Icosahedron Crafts and Shipping Silent Infinity
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Posted - 2011.12.13 18:41:00 -
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The list is sorted based on what was last uploaded (in the region you reside in). That means the most outdated items are uploaded first. I'm not entirely sure whether it also does this for subsets.
I've also uploaded a new version of the unified uploader. It hasn't really changed much, but it should autodetect when you have no EVE installations defined and automatically search for them.
I'm also sorry to say that your totals have been fixed Vrelk I was counting the total wallet journal amount for every rat you killed Developer/Creator of EVE Marketeer
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Scrapyard Bob
EVE University Ivy League
452
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Posted - 2011.12.13 19:22:00 -
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v0.2 of the unified uploader, it starts on Win7 64bit, creates an icon in the systray, but then never does anything. The log file contains:
Traceback (most recent call last): File "emkUploader.py", line 19, in module File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7981, in __init__ File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7555, in _BootstrapApp File "emkUploader.py", line 11, in OnInit File "UploaderFrame.pyo", line 70, in __init__ File "UploaderFrame.pyo", line 107, in initialize File "UploaderFrame.pyo", line 305, in installationAutodetectButtonClick AttributeError: Installation instance has no attribute 'folder_base' |
Callean Drevus
Icosahedron Crafts and Shipping Silent Infinity
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Posted - 2011.12.13 21:15:00 -
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Hmm, will take a look.
EDIT: Fixed version uploaded Developer/Creator of EVE Marketeer
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