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Devore Sekk
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.02.16 23:03:00 -
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Deen Wispa wrote:In an ideal world, lowsec should be a place for 'long term' residents but no one to my knowledge has really presented a viable long term fix that can work within CCP's development framework. Have you found someone who has presented an alternative framework for lowsec that you'd like to bring to our awareness? I have some issues with Han's platform on lowsec but it's still the most REALISTIC solution I've seen so far.
Agreed, and lets be realistic here about the role of the CSM. CSM are not game designers. I am skeptical of the candidates proposing grand and sweeping changes to gameplay and mechanics, such as Kelduum's war-deck scheme, which will never see the light of day, and hopefully will not be left to linger and burn up scarce CSM and CCP time. The advantage of Hans' proposals, even if you don't like them, is that they are small and iterative, aren't heavy-handed, ham-fisted attempts to bully players into a given playstyle, and many can probably be implemented in a few hours and thrown up on the CCP internal test servers.
Small changes that give players more options = good. Massive changes that dictate and restrict gameplay = bad. |
Mortromain
Lazy Settlers
0
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Posted - 2012.02.16 23:38:00 -
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Ok, i understand more why i was troubled by this SS threshold thing.
I fear that allowing piracy without highsec interdiction might transform low-sec into a huge amamake. I mean, what you call drawbacks, i don't : - The isk loss is nothing, a high sec player will have chosen to dedicate it to "sport" as you say. A pirate need to kill me to make isk, i need to survive if i want to make profit at the end of the day, it would kind of unbalance the game to put people messing around without any care for profitability. - being shootable by anyone in low sec is not a drawback, it's what they want. I understand that a lot of people want to do casual and consensual PvP, but that is basically what FW offers (without the FFA part, can't you do without it?).
Besides, pvping for "sport" seems more like putting a pvp tag on you to me, like in some other games. Eve is not this kind of game, it is a game where your actions affects the way you play. Besides, there are not many things you can't do in low sec (if any), it's just harder.
To Deen Wispa :
Deen Wispa wrote:Quite frankly, I hate trying to balance it and Hans solution could make my life a heck of alot easier. That's precisely my point.
Deen Wispa wrote:It can be argued that nullsec is safer than lowsec I agree, the word easier is what i should have used, there are more stations and less jumps to do in low sec.
I have the feeling that you think i am trying to criticize Hans work, this is not the case, i really think many things in his platform pdf are great (bounty and kill right change, GCC reduction and others), I just have the feeling that this sport thing and the SS threshold might destroy all lowsec potential to become a place for long term residence. |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
1719
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Posted - 2012.02.17 00:39:00 -
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Timmy Tebow wrote:I hope I didn't miss these elsewhere in the thread, but I have three questions for you:
1) How do you feel about time dilation and the potential impact it has on CCP in regards to demotivating them in upgrading server hardware?
2) PLEX/GTC prices are too damn high. How will you leverage your influence on the CSM to bring down the price of game time paid with isk?
3) How should CCP reward veterans for their longevity in playing this game instead of punishing them via "end-game" nerfs?
Thanks for answering and good luck in your campaign!
Time dilation is a difficult issue for me to chime in on at this point in time, mainly because I've avoided the kind of fights where lag is bad enough that it would kick in. They're not my cup of tea. I can't in good conscience argue that CCP needs to be upgrading their server hardware, because I haven't seen enough evidence of this in my day-to-day game play. If the rest of the CSM7 agreed it was a major issue, I'd trust their judgement and support them in seeing it resolved.
Regarding PLEX prices, I can understand that you feel they are too high, but I also believe that EvE's player driven market should remain precisely that - player driven. We have to remember that EvE is fundamentally a $15.00 a month subscription model, not play-for-free. It is a convenience that CCP allows two players to exchange RL time for in-game time, but I'm dubious giving CCP the authority to place a value on what a player's own time means to them. It's a personal decision.
For your third question, I'd to have ask you which specific "end-game" nerfs you're referring too. Supercaps? Anomolies? Incursions? "End-game" is a highly controversial term to use in a game like EvE, where players set their own goals. If you could let me know what exactly you're talking about, I'll happily share my opinion. |
Galatica789
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
15
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Posted - 2012.02.17 00:53:00 -
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Tell CCP to make it if you have PVP agression you CANNOT activate self-destruction of your ship |
Seleene
Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion
1061
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Posted - 2012.02.17 01:38:00 -
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Everyone here realizes that Hans is going to be on the CSM, right? Just checking. Carry on. Seleene's Sandbox - My Blog, where I say stuff. Follow Seleene on Twitter |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
1719
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Posted - 2012.02.17 01:39:00 -
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Mortromain wrote: I fear that allowing piracy without highsec interdiction might transform low-sec into a huge amamake. I mean, what you call drawbacks, i don't : - The isk loss is nothing, a high sec player will have chosen to dedicate it to "sport" as you say. A pirate need to kill me to make isk, i need to survive if i want to make profit at the end of the day, it would kind of unbalance the game to put people messing around without any care for profitability. - being shootable by anyone in low sec is not a drawback, it's what they want. I understand that a lot of people want to do casual and consensual PvP, but that is basically what FW offers (without the FFA part, can't you do without it?).
Besides, pvping for "sport" seems more like putting a pvp tag on you to me, like in some other games. Eve is not this kind of game, it is a game where your actions affects the way you play. Besides, there are not many things you can't do in low sec (if any), it's just harder.
Discussions like this can get tricky, so I think we're going to have to be real specific here to make sure we're on the same page.
With the current rules, low sec criminals like myself that don't break the law in highsec are still shut out of high sec. This is what actually contribues to low sec being more like Amamake, the fact that there are lots of us who are stuck here. If I could be in high sec more often, I would be. Allowing more free transit between low and high sec space for folks like me that behave themselves while in high sec actually may actually lower the resident low sec population, making it safer, not more dangerous.
The other problem with the current situation is that it took me a lot of attacks on neutrals to get to -4.8. Despite my clear willingness to engage in PvP, under current rules YOU would be considered the criminal if you attacked me on a gate. Does it makes sense to you that I can attack so many neutral "suspected Amarr sympathizers" yet you would be the one to have your SS lowered for attacking me?
Part of my vision for high sec space is more player-driven justice, where crimes leave the criminal open to retribution by other players. This is the core of the bounty system I outlined. The Jack Dant proposal is a great extension of this, because it removes protections that players like me currently enjoy despite the number of crimes I've committed in low sec.
I understand it may sound like flagging, but the difference is that I only "flag" myself for PvP by committing crimes. If I don't commit crimes, I'm not able to just "flag" myself for PvP. It's a choice I make with my actions, not by selecting an item on a menu. I hope readers here are following and understand that there's a difference between the two.
Once again to clarify: If you were living in low sec, and had a positive security status (most non-PvPers would), I would still get GCC and sentry fire for attacking you. Nothing I've discussed changes that fact. I'm advocating changes that allow law-abiding citizens free aggression upon law-breaking citizens, not the other way around.
The only way these changes increase the danger level for pilots living in low sec is if they make the decision to engage in non-consensual PvP. If you just wanted to come out here and run some deadspace plexes, it wouldn't affect your safety level at all, does that make sense? |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
1719
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Posted - 2012.02.17 01:58:00 -
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Seleene wrote:Everyone here realizes that Hans is going to be on the CSM, right? Just checking. Carry on.
ONLY if you guys all get your corpmates to vote for me, and your friends, and their corpmates too. Including all your other accounts!
We've only just begun folks, there's still a lot of hard work to do to spread the message further in the weeks ahead. This is no time for complacency!
Seleene I appreciate the love but no more making this sound like I've got it in the bag, alright! |
Grumpy Owly
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.02.17 02:20:00 -
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ty for mail Hans, commentary placed in BH thread. Griefers are lazy cowards with the current climate of broken player policing systems.
Stop EvE Apathy |
Mortromain
Lazy Settlers
0
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Posted - 2012.02.17 09:51:00 -
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After discussing with Hans, i realize i had misunderstood the fact that the shootability of people with negative SS proposed by him extends to high sec. This is indeed huge drawback to piracy, and so i'm good with the overall idea.
it was just to clear up my position on the matter.
Hans seems a great candidate to me now. |
Hirana Yoshida
Behavioral Affront
288
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Posted - 2012.02.17 14:45:00 -
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Re: Piracy. I think the whole thing boils down to the rewrite of the standings/aggression system that CCP seem loathe to tackle due to fear of whatever problems they may cause if they miss a line of code. If they do manage to pull a revamp off we could/should be able to have proper piracy complete with pirate hunting, transferable killrights and the 'LS = underbelly of Eve' concept .. my take on it at any rate.
Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:Seleene I appreciate the love but no more making this sound like I've got it in the bag, alright! Why not? God wills it!
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Mjolnir Gost
Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse
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Posted - 2012.02.17 15:13:00 -
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Absolutely has my vote and those of as many of my friends and associates that I can muster.
We will be pulling for you.
Go Hans! |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
1760
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Posted - 2012.02.17 17:23:00 -
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I just wanted to let you all know I'll be on EvE Radio Sat 2/18 at 00:00 EvE time.
Tune in as Seleene, Two Step, and myself chat it up with DJ Funkybacon regarding the election. Should last about an hour.
Hope you all catch the show!
http://eve-radio.com |
Vordak Kallager
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
111
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Posted - 2012.02.17 23:18:00 -
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Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:I just wanted to let you all know I'll be on EvE Radio Sat 2/18 at 00:00 EvE time.Tune in as Seleene, Two Step, and myself chat it up with DJ Funkybacon regarding the election. Should last about an hour. Hope you all catch the show! http://eve-radio.com
He's also going to be on the Voices from the Void podcast. \o/ Hans Jagerblitzen for CSM7 |
Shalee Lianne
Imperial Outlaws
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Posted - 2012.02.17 23:22:00 -
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I'll be listening!! http://amarrian.blogspot.com/ -á~ Roleplay blog.http://sovereigntywars.wordpress.com/ ~ Faction War blog. |
Seismic Stan
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Posted - 2012.02.18 02:34:00 -
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Further to questions that I submitted to EVE Radio but were unanswered due to time constraints, I'm reposting them here.
My original email to EVE Radio:
Quote:Is it in the interests of EVE as a whole for the min-maxer/power-gamer lobby to be the priority focus for development plans? Should players accept that EVE is destined to be World of Fleet Fights?
Do any of the candidates value the backstory and lore of EVE? How do they feel about some of the softer (exploration/PvE) activities?
I was a little disappointed that the context of my questions was missed. By "min-maxer/powergamer" I meant those who simply play the game for the numerical victories and bragging rights without concern for any other aspect of EVE Online. I wasn't very satisfied with the "alternative fleet doctrines means you're not a powergamer" response which I feel misses the point entirely.
Essentially, should those players who seek a more immersive storyline-driven experience look elsewhere and leave EVE to be the dominion of the e-sports PvPers?
Should player-driven content be the only content? Blogger on Freebooted. Co-Creator of Tech4 podcast and website. Author of Incarna: The Text Adventure. |
Mekhana
Black Knight Legion
417
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Posted - 2012.02.18 02:57:00 -
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In all these years I never voted for the CSM. Because it all felt so futile of it all and none of the people seemed to represent who I am and what I do in EVE. It felt like tuning in to a foreign election. Didn't even feel like we are playing the same game.
You have just earned my first vote. |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
1784
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Posted - 2012.02.18 05:00:00 -
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Seismic Stan wrote: Essentially, should those players who seek a more immersive storyline-driven experience look elsewhere and leave EVE to be the dominion of the e-sports PvPers?
Should player-driven content be the only content?
Absolutely not. I think it is a tremendous waste of all the creativity that went into EvE's lore to not develop the story lines of the various empires and pirate factions in parallel to the stories the players create themselves. Yes, even the prepackaged content (Chronicles, novels, etc) delivered by CCP enriches the universe in a way that's meaningful to many players.
Even though role play may not dominate Faction Warfare, we certainly wouldn't be the same without it, and I'd love to see more ways that we can use the wars between the militias to further the story line of the four empires.
With or without a CSM7 seat, there's no way I'm going to let a "complete overhaul" of Faction Warfare arrive without begging, blackmailing, manipulating, or bribing CCP Dropbear into authoring some Live Events to coincide with the major changes. There was a specific set of events that led to the creation of the feature (Read EvE Online: Empyrean Age for the full narrative), and I can't imagine a major iteration on the feature that isn't backed up by some new developments in the corresponding lore. Live Events would be a fantastic way to get players back into the spirit of Factional Warfare and inspire imaginations once again, especially for those that have migrated away due to boredom.
I've gotten a lot of positive feedback recently for writing in my platform that we should eventually expand Factional Warfare to include groups like the Angel Cartel or the Guristas, and to move more pirate missions and story content back into lowsec where its accessible by those of us not wrapped up in the meta-game.
The bottom line is players do get attached to their race, their ships, their homelands, their culture. Players want to involve themselves more in some of the storylines that are unique the EvE universe. I think its completely possible to have sandbox gameplay where players can respond to the lore CCP initiates, and leave their own mark on the storylines, without having to be part of a massive alliance or live in null sec to do so. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
2988
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Posted - 2012.02.18 08:04:00 -
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Mekhana wrote:In all these years I never voted for the CSM. Because it all felt so futile of it all and none of the people seemed to represent who I am and what I do in EVE. It felt like tuning in to a foreign election. Didn't even feel like we are playing the same game.
For your consideration: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=65070
Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
1790
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Posted - 2012.02.18 08:33:00 -
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Mekhana wrote:In all these years I never voted for the CSM. Because it all felt so futile of it all and none of the people seemed to represent who I am and what I do in EVE. It felt like tuning in to a foreign election. Didn't even feel like we are playing the same game.
You have just earned my first vote.
This has probably been one of the most inspiring moments in the campaign so far, thank you so much for sharing! That's my goal here, to help add to the balance of the council and broaden its expertise and experience.
Even more exciting than the support of a stranger is knowing that you're voting for the first time. That is AWESOME news. I wouldn't put all these hours in if it didn't think it would make a difference, and despite all the cynicism its great to hear that more people are realizing that voting now is more important than ever before.
Now that the company has been redirected, and the dev teams are working with the community once again, all the more reason to step up and get involved so that the interests of everyone who plays the game are protected.
Don't be a stranger, stick around and ask some questions if there's anything you'd like to know! |
Courthouse
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
80
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Posted - 2012.02.18 09:04:00 -
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See? You step into a groove by sticking with your strengths and developing a platform from which you are an expert and you get the constituency base to make things happen. Well done and I'm hopeful that a term that includes you will net a positive expansion for Lowsec/FW and Crimewatch/GCC mechanics. |
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Poetic Stanziel
Major Kong Freight
745
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Posted - 2012.02.18 19:33:00 -
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The most anticipated CSM7 interview is now underway. Marc Scaurus interviewing Kelduum Revaan and Hans Jagerblitzen. Cross-debating with the two participants as well.
You can catch it on the VandV podcast tomorrow. Episode 36. The STAIN Travel Bookmark Collection - 451 Bookmarks |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10115
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Posted - 2012.02.18 19:35:00 -
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I just heard some one making fun of someone else for being a pubbie. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar; Space Friend to All Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM7. |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10115
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Posted - 2012.02.18 19:35:00 -
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"Are you stoned?" Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar; Space Friend to All Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM7. |
Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
10115
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Posted - 2012.02.18 19:39:00 -
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I am sure Episode 36 will be all civil. Sky Captain of Your Heart; Lyris Chronicles of Narnia in the World of Tomorrow's Goonfleet dot Com; Good Poster Extraordinaire and Spacebook Superstar; Space Friend to All Vote Lyris Nairn for CSM7. |
rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
398
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Posted - 2012.02.18 19:45:00 -
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I am hearing voices come from the void. Is that safe? or normal? disorientating |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
1799
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Posted - 2012.02.18 21:42:00 -
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rodyas wrote:I am hearing voices come from the void. Is that safe? or normal?
Absolutely! It's a common side effect of the medication. Nothing to be alarmed about, its working as intended. |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
1799
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Posted - 2012.02.18 21:45:00 -
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Lyris Nairn wrote:I just heard some one making fun of someone else for being a pubbie.
Links or it didn't happen! |
Nius Kincaid
Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse
0
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Posted - 2012.02.19 05:27:00 -
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Gallactica wrote:You have my sword + 1
You carry the fate of us all, Jagerblitzen +1. If this is indeed the will of the Council, then Fwar will see it done. |
Rei Seiji
Production N Destruction INC. The Last Chancers.
4
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Posted - 2012.02.19 11:33:00 -
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Herr Jagerblitzen! For too long CCP has enacted a harsh policy on not just hisecers, but all Eve Online players, a policy that makes a mockery of the sandbox theory, a policy that expects us to conform, without even raising our voices in protest.
I ask you, what will you do to ensure that we can all run around pantless? We are capsuleers! Living gods in this universe! Living gods with nice thighs! Won't you please do what you must to allow us to show off our smooth silky legs? |
SigmaPi
Valkyr Industries Late Night Alliance
3
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Posted - 2012.02.19 21:10:00 -
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Hans for president! I mean... wait, what?
I've read a lot of your reasoning behind lowsec (and fw in particular) being a testbed for new nullsec mechanics. I agree almost entirely, but I do want to hear what (if any in particular) plans you have to really give strong value to fw plexing and things of this nature. I'm sure I've read a few fairly specific ideas you've had and also plenty of others speaking for you, but I'd really like some detail about how you see it being fixed. In that vein, do you think FW should have a "sov-style" system where the capture and holding of a system actually holds a significant value to the militias? or are the ideas more cosmetic and 'meaningless' (not meant as insulting)?
It's obviously a big balancing game of making FW meaningful to those playing, but not so glorious as to invite all those blobby nullsec pubbie alliances to stick their noses where they are not needed. I don't in particular have a great idea in mind, but I'd really love to hear any more details you have in mind for the system. I've been in FW to one extent or another for the past 3 years (and was a nullsec resident for the previous 2), and the last thing I want to see is the overwhelming odds of nullsec being thrust on the fairly low-key and independent groups in lowsec.
Anyways, a hundred words to say very little... I want you to spill more details! Get with it!! |
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