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Skjorta
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Posted - 2007.12.29 18:20:00 -
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Originally by: Shagarina
so come on and stop sucking on your mother teet still and grow up
-shagarina
This is where i stopped reading your whine and started smiling that you died.
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SPAgent Scully
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Posted - 2007.12.29 18:21:00 -
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This thread makes me really happy that I'm only a couple of days away from HIC Lvl4.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.12.29 18:36:00 -
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when you die make sure you have something selected and then in the selected item window SPAM THE HELL out of the warp button you'll start warping even before your ship is dead and your pod will be safe.
I have never been podded and I live in 0.0
also yes gun might need a boost in low sec, but not when one ship is tanking them. makes it easier to kill them.
if it was my corp I would of asked for backup and had 2 mates there in 10 minuates maybe 20 to get my stu8ff and own him in the face :)
pink supporter! Future art director at CCP! or texture guy, either or :P http://www.digipen.edu/main/Gallery_Games_2004#Narbacular_Drop Was in class with these folks :P |
MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.12.29 18:39:00 -
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Originally by: Shagarina some of us sleep you know...
-shagarina
self centered much?
some of us don't live in the same time zone.
the world isn't your own little personal place where the world stops when you sleep.
pink supporter! Future art director at CCP! or texture guy, either or :P http://www.digipen.edu/main/Gallery_Games_2004#Narbacular_Drop Was in class with these folks :P |
Ja'kar
MAFIA
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Posted - 2007.12.29 18:57:00 -
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Edited by: Ja''kar on 29/12/2007 18:57:24 as for my skill, fu. I have 500+ kills with my alt
dude npc's don't count
post with ur main so we can all bow down
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JADE DRAG0NESS
Dark Scorpions Fate Weavers
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Posted - 2007.12.29 19:09:00 -
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This was a very interesting topic i thought.
Now i did notice a few things that the OP has gotten wrong and missed.
1. That ship was NOT permatanked.In orderfor aship totank sentry turrets in Lowsec for any respectable ammount of time it needs to sacrifice quite a few slots just for the tank. And as she killed you it tells me she did not do this fully [fitted a basicGateturret tankimguessing].
2. Bubbles cant be deployed in lowsec.
3. There is a bug where a bubbles appears where it shouldnt.
4. You should have used the map functions to scout ahead.
5. You shouldn't have transported everything [200 million] in one trip in a cheap ship.
6. He could lock you so quickly because he was set up to.
7. Before you say it was unfare i point out you could do the same yourself if you wanted.
8. Take your lessons from this mistake of yours and do things right next time. [i.e.Dont do it all in one trip, Get a decent hauler, Scout out your route on the map and look out for hot spots.
"Kill one man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill them all, and you are a god." -- Jean Rostand |
Torlin Valric
Minmatar Soliders Of Eve The Church.
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Posted - 2007.12.29 19:26:00 -
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Originally by: Shagarina lowsec is not possible to fly through
I lol'ed
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britishfish
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2007.12.29 20:05:00 -
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i knew buying a broadsword was a winner its about time the pirate`s had a chance to catch T2 stabbed up hauler`s er i mean mom`s oh wait a destroyer and remember risk vs reward
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v707/donbillodafish/bestthread.jpg
A Dream is a goal without a plan. "No guts , no glory." |
Cat Casidy
Wise Guys Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.12.29 21:54:00 -
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Originally by: Shagarina
If I stop playing, and go play another MMO they in all likelyhood will end up getting my time -shagarina
Your powers of intuition astound me
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Waxau
The Fated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.12.29 22:16:00 -
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Originally by: Shagarina some of us sleep you know...
anyway, so looks like I just got insta-locked and scrammed which ignored the stabs,
still if you all think this is the way the game should be played who am I to argue... your ships are next no doubt, but you wont be unhappy or anything, you'll suck it up...
what I dont like is in lowsec basically having a PIRATE PERMATANK SENTRIES.. wth you guys dont get it i dont know... you some how justify it with.. its all in the game mechanics.. I thought gate guns were to PREVENT camping of lowsec gates.
why the **** should they be able to sit and tank sentry guns all day and pull people from warping without ramification.. soon as we go and try smack them they just buggar off and dont fight... no ramifications to it.. how about webfier sentries,, jammer sentries.. that will make em think twice about camping all day long on a gate.
anyway petitioned, might be a lag issue, 3rd time I've not been able to get damn pod to warpout in 2 months.. starting to **** me off..
-shagarina
1. We wont enjoy being podded/losing our ships. But then again, the majority of us are pvpers with over 500 kills, and could kick your alts ass. So we dont whine about it on the forums. So yeah - We suck it up.
2. Sentry guns make gate camping HARDER. Not impossible. Same as concord doesnt STOP you dying in high sec. Its what makes eve as dynamic as it is. You want to avoid gate camps in low sec? Use a scout, ask a friend, check the map, or use a frig. 200 mil in a destroyer doesnt constitute as any of those.
3. there are pleanty of ways to catch them. A hactor lowsec gate camping solo is a deathwish in all honesty. All it takes is a second hactor, and its a stalemate. Add a bit of preparation, bring some dps ships - And hes a gonner.
As for ramifications...lol. Hes in a 250 mil isk ship, camping a gate on his own, and you think hes got no ramifications? Now i know you arent a pvper.
As for the petition...Good luck, but you dont even deserve a response. You were killed. simple as that. No hacks, no exploits, no 'omgomgomgdevccpinterventiongaaah'.
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Araxmas
An Eye For An Eye Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.12.29 22:39:00 -
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Since the OP can't grasp that fact that someone killed them by warp scrambling them faster than they can warp off I am assuming it is a blatant trolling and peevs me off. Oh he was perma-tanking sentries? How do you know, he could of just shot you the moment you were there (oh or the good chance he actually can actually fly a ship well and spent money on his ships thus allowing him to do so, which is good and not broken since time was taken to get the skills to do that) Lastly killing someones pod is griefing? Seriously just go away. --------
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Atama Cardel
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.12.29 23:15:00 -
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Originally by: Zombie Network [ 2007.12.29 01:20:40 ] (notify) Woodbine [BL3H](Devoter) has started trying to warp scramble you! [ 2007.12.29 01:20:41 ] (notify) Warping to Stargate (Olettiers) [ 2007.12.29 01:20:41 ] (notify) Unable to perform because you are warp scrambled.
If I were a GM, this is the point where I would tell you our logs don't show anything wrong. Your client logs say you were scrammed before you could warp out, the server logs say you were scrammed before you could warp out, do you think perhaps you may have been scammed before you could warp out?
If I were a GM, this is the point where I would tell him that he's ******** and should probably quit eve
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Dr Slice
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.12.29 23:39:00 -
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Good job Woody
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Woodbine
Minmatar the united
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Posted - 2007.12.30 01:55:00 -
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Originally by: JADE DRAG0NESS This was a very interesting topic i thought.
Now i did notice a few things that the OP has gotten wrong and missed.
1. That ship was NOT permatanked.In orderfor aship totank sentry turrets in Lowsec for any respectable ammount of time it needs to sacrifice quite a few slots just for the tank. And as she killed you it tells me she did not do this fully [fitted a basicGateturret tankimguessing].
Just to set the records straight
I can perma tank the sentrys on my own and catch you with good DPS... check our KB you will see me killing ships solo. If you know and have the skills you can fit a HDIC easily to do the job it was intended for. You just need remote boosting to get pretty instant lock and thats it.
Once you have the lock you are not boosted anymore as you can not have any external effects on you due to the lock you have on the ship.
Please people if you are going to reply to an OP who was ****ed at getting ganked by a ship that is just doing what it is suppose to do.... KNOW what your saying.
HDIC are very very very good at there job. They can do it solo if you have the skills and mods but they are much more effective in small gangs that are setup to get a job done.
All I will say is that the OP should have learnt and anyone else that check the map and use an alt to scout. There be ebil pirates out there you know.
CCP thank for a great game that gets better and better.
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Mikkel Lybecker
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Posted - 2007.12.30 02:54:00 -
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I will never go to lowsec again, it's just too risky now.
Not complaining, just saying.
I refuse to use an alt to scout, as far as I'm concerned that's metagaming, which I don't do. I do check maps before I depart but experience has shown me that a small mobile gatecamp can easily overcome that kind of intelligence gathering.
Low-sec was fun while it lasted, but those days are over for me now. I have absolutely no chance against the new type of gatecamps, even with cloaking, MWD and a high warp strength blockade runner. Combat pilots will still enjoy lowsec and good luck to them but it's all over for haulers.
Flame if you must.
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Omniscient Order
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Posted - 2007.12.30 03:00:00 -
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Originally by: Mikkel Lybecker I will never go to lowsec again, it's just too risky now.
Not complaining, just saying.
I refuse to use an alt to scout, as far as I'm concerned that's metagaming, which I don't do. I do check maps before I depart but experience has shown me that a small mobile gatecamp can easily overcome that kind of intelligence gathering.
Low-sec was fun while it lasted, but those days are over for me now. I have absolutely no chance against the new type of gatecamps, even with cloaking, MWD and a high warp strength blockade runner. Combat pilots will still enjoy lowsec and good luck to them but it's all over for haulers.
Flame if you must.
I must flame
A frigate can escape any low sec camp tbh...yes a T1 frig. An interceptor laughs at low sec. And as for coverts or the covert recons, it is IMPOSSIBLE to die in low sec.
Learn to play the game, and hello kitty island adventure is that way --->
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Mikkel Lybecker
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Posted - 2007.12.30 03:09:00 -
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Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Originally by: Mikkel Lybecker I will never go to lowsec again, it's just too risky now.
Not complaining, just saying.
I refuse to use an alt to scout, as far as I'm concerned that's metagaming, which I don't do. I do check maps before I depart but experience has shown me that a small mobile gatecamp can easily overcome that kind of intelligence gathering.
Low-sec was fun while it lasted, but those days are over for me now. I have absolutely no chance against the new type of gatecamps, even with cloaking, MWD and a high warp strength blockade runner. Combat pilots will still enjoy lowsec and good luck to them but it's all over for haulers.
Flame if you must.
I must flame
A frigate can escape any low sec camp tbh...yes a T1 frig. An interceptor laughs at low sec. And as for coverts or the covert recons, it is IMPOSSIBLE to die in low sec.
Learn to play the game, and hello kitty island adventure is that way --->
Well I knew someone would.
I'm not a combat pilot. I don't fly fighters, covert ops etc. I am a hauler, I fly haulers and specifically blockade runners. Like I said, combat pilots will still survive and find lowsec fun so I don't disagree with you about those ships.
Don't give me retreaded jokes about hello kitty online. I didn't say I was leaving the game. I didn't even say I was UNHAPPY. I just said I was staying out of lowsec for good, which I will. It's not a complaint, just a statement of a fact. My blockade runner just doesn't cut it anymore and there's no way I will risk millions of dollars of cargo when I can just get pulled out of warp instantly by one of these new interdictors. Low sec is essentially 0.0 now. I have no problem with this. But I won't be going there again.
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Armoured C
Gallente Globaltech Industries Hedonistic Imperative
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Posted - 2007.12.30 03:15:00 -
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some people disagree with hictors in game but i agree the game has mostly been swaying away from pirates or a while and now with this ship the pirates can kill more to make up for the trouble :) and take your loot ...just means you have to work extra hard to get away @.@
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Wet Ferret
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Posted - 2007.12.30 03:16:00 -
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Entering lowsec with a Destroyer was a big mistake. I'm sure you've been told that plenty of times by now, though Destroyers do not qualify as "a fast ship".
Might I suggest an executioner with a nano and an istab? I have yet to be caught in one of those.
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techzer0
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2007.12.30 03:19:00 -
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Originally by: SPAgent Scully This thread makes me really happy that I'm only a couple of days away from HIC Lvl4.
Me too
And I still haven't even used it yet... I gotta use it soon, just to see the stabbed haulers screaming in local before they die ____________________ Hi. I'm not an alt :) |
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Omniscient Order
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Posted - 2007.12.30 03:23:00 -
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Edited by: Flinx Evenstar on 30/12/2007 03:25:51
Originally by: Mikkel Lybecker
Don't give me retreaded jokes about hello kitty online.
It's not a joke, click that link...it will make you laugh
And of course haulers are vulnerable to camps...that why you need a scout. Not an ALT scout, but a real guy you can trust. I'd freaking scout for you myself if I wasn't on some merc contract atm.
Bottom line...un-escorted hauler = easy meat.
Fly smart
Edit, I should say that the new HIC do NOT pull you out of warp in low sec. You were never IN warp.
It does have an infinite point of scramble with the focused script. I hope that scares you stab monkeys a little
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Yohanes Flame
Point-Zero SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.12.30 03:27:00 -
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Can a HIC pilot confirm that bubbles wont drop in lowsec? Pretty sure i hit one yesturday as i landed 17 off gate when heading to 0. I could have clicked wrong though. There was a bubble graphic and no other targets on the gate with the HIC. ____________________________ One Thead to rule them all - Boot.ini pre-patch thread
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Mikkel Lybecker
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Posted - 2007.12.30 03:28:00 -
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Edited by: Mikkel Lybecker on 30/12/2007 03:29:15 Well yeah if I had a trusted person to check out the route for me first, then I would go.
Finding someone that 1. I trust and 2. could be bothered... that's almost impossible. Still, that is a viable option for some people and you're right.
Like I said before, I don't think this change is BAD, it's just going to stop ME from going to lowsec. On the one had pirates have it easier now. On the other hand there are a lot of haulers like me who will just not go, so I think it all evens out. Net effect on the game = not much.
And yeah I think the OP is being a bit emotional.
Link didn't work for me btw.
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Es'karik
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Posted - 2007.12.30 03:28:00 -
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I can only hope that CCP can see the light of day that allowing this focus script (which negates every penalty of the launcher) to completely negate any number of warp core stabs is flawed. Warp core stabs were already nerfed to the point the only use they have is travel. Now they are completely useless?
The problem was motherships camping 0.4 gates all but invincible. We needed a counter for that and that is the heavy interdictor. But to make it's weapon a guaranteed scram against any ship it sees?
Me hopes this was an oversight that will get FIXED soon (It should have a defined scram strength). Otherwise, me thinks CCP devs need to play a little rock paper scissors --- it's called BALANCE.
Flame away now.
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techzer0
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2007.12.30 03:36:00 -
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Originally by: Yohanes Flame Can a HIC pilot confirm that bubbles wont drop in lowsec? Pretty sure i hit one yesturday as i landed 17 off gate when heading to 0. I could have clicked wrong though. There was a bubble graphic and no other targets on the gate with the HIC.
You can not turn the bubble on in lowsec. There is a graphics bug where the bubble shows up, but you can still warp away...
As for landing 17k from the gate, I dunno... maybe you mis-clicked, or there is a glitch in there somewhere, but I'm very sure that you can not turn the Warp Disruption Field Gen on without the Infini point script loaded up in lowsec. ____________________ Hi. I'm not an alt :) |
Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Omniscient Order
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Posted - 2007.12.30 03:36:00 -
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Originally by: Mikkel Lybecker
Like I said before, I don't think this change is BAD, it's just going to stop ME from going to lowsec. On the one had pirates have it easier now. On the other hand there are a lot of haulers like me who will just not go, so I think it all evens out. Net effect on the game = not much.
And yeah I think the OP is being a bit emotional.
Link didn't work for me btw.
Yeah I agree, the blockade runner has taken a big hit from the Broadsword, Phobos etc
The built in warp core strength means nothing now if you meet a HIC, but if you had a scout, you would choose not to jump in. Blockade runners still get into warp really fast, and they are one of the hardest ships to catch tbh...lots have escaped me
With a simple shuttle scout, you are still immune to all except HIC's
Oh and the link requires DivX..it's the southpark world of warcraft episode...damm funny
And good luck, with your hauling, just please get a scout
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Mikkel Lybecker
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Posted - 2007.12.30 03:53:00 -
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It's a damn shame that scouting for a hauler is a job that no-one wants to do. I've never been successfully able to talk someone into doing that for me. Even if I dangle a hefty ISK carrot, all the corpmates I've ever had just want to go missioning. I think I need a new corp...
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Gamesguy
Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.12.30 04:51:00 -
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Originally by: Mikkel Lybecker
Well I knew someone would.
I'm not a combat pilot. I don't fly fighters, covert ops etc. I am a hauler, I fly haulers and specifically blockade runners. Like I said, combat pilots will still survive and find lowsec fun so I don't disagree with you about those ships.
Don't give me retreaded jokes about hello kitty online. I didn't say I was leaving the game. I didn't even say I was UNHAPPY. I just said I was staying out of lowsec for good, which I will. It's not a complaint, just a statement of a fact. My blockade runner just doesn't cut it anymore and there's no way I will risk millions of dollars of cargo when I can just get pulled out of warp instantly by one of these new interdictors. Low sec is essentially 0.0 now. I have no problem with this. But I won't be going there again.
Bull****. My blockade runner would never die in lowsec, it doesn't even die in 0.0 bubble camps with a huginn.
Its called nanos and a mwd.
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Wrayeth
Shiva Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.12.30 05:40:00 -
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Originally by: Mikkel Lybecker It's a damn shame that scouting for a hauler is a job that no-one wants to do. I've never been successfully able to talk someone into doing that for me. Even if I dangle a hefty ISK carrot, all the corpmates I've ever had just want to go missioning. I think I need a new corp...
Yeah, you definitely need a new corp. I don't even get along with some of my corpmates and they'll still scout for me and me for them. -Wrayeth n00b Extraordinaire "Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!" |
Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2007.12.30 08:01:00 -
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all i can say is why the **** are people so afraid of stuff getting blown up? and then when stuff blows up (often for an obvious reason) they get very angry?
blow up all my ships, blow up all my pods, and i can always get more
and yea people can permatank sentries, its been like that for a while now...
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