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ian papabear
The 0bvious Mining Corp
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Posted - 2012.02.08 10:33:00 -
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so two nights i was sitting outside jita buying items for my nightmare, and low and behold out comes a thanotos undocking from jita 4 4.... it warped off to the cluster gates then came back and sat in front of the station and released all its fighters... i know that carriers were once built in high sec but from what im hearing they werent build in jita... so how did this player manage to have his carrier in jita? |
eddie valvetino
Snuff Box
0
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Posted - 2012.02.08 10:35:00 -
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not sure
but i'm fairly sure using caps in combat in high sec is an exploit
Edd |
baltec1
569
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Posted - 2012.02.08 10:37:00 -
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That is a very old ship and has not been seen for quite some time. |
Cebraio
Starfire Oasis
4
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Posted - 2012.02.08 10:39:00 -
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Pretty sure they also have been built in Jita and they can stay there, if they stick to the rules. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
2403
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Posted - 2012.02.08 11:48:00 -
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That ship should be moved as it has never been "legal", that is a GM screwup.
Carriers have only been able to be produced in systems up to 0.7 (while the arrays were anchored) - and since Jita is 0.9 the only way for it to get there is it being reimbursed by a GM that didn't check the system.
Petition it.
/c
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Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1989
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Posted - 2012.02.08 11:54:00 -
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stranger things have happened
i.e. a nulli secunda titan in Rens (cripes)
yeah no i'm not actually running for csm7
got you lol!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Cebraio
Starfire Oasis
4
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Posted - 2012.02.08 12:12:00 -
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Chribba wrote:That ship should be moved as it has never been "legal", that is a GM screwup.
Carriers have only been able to be produced in systems up to 0.7 (while the arrays were anchored) - and since Jita is 0.9 the only way for it to get there is it being reimbursed by a GM that didn't check the system.
Petition it.
/c
Ok, I didn't know it wasn't built there. Still, I don't think its mere existence is a reason to petition and remove it. (Unless he used the fighters for combat.) Don't be so jealous about it Chribba. 
I think it's nice to have some capitals in high sec to show them to the new players. |
Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
62
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Posted - 2012.02.08 12:29:00 -
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Cebraio wrote:
I think it's nice to have some capitals in high sec to show them to the new players.
As long as it was not used in combat, I'm sure quite a few of the newer players got a thrill seeing it there.
I also dont see a problem with it, gives the game some 'history'.
Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum
In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
2404
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Posted - 2012.02.08 13:03:00 -
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No jealousy here, since i have my fleet of capitals in high-sec already. And while yes it's nice for new people to see them, imo it's all about the history and the rarity of said items and their history of days past.
GMs reimbursing them left and right (yeah I know that's not really the case) makes them less "historic" imo and it they don't really have any history, just a GM not paying attention when reimbursing a ship.
True ships are imo far more historic since they are the from the old days. New pilots can get the whole history of it as well, how at a point in time things could be built there, and even put a RP on it saying like concord changed the restrictions etc.
/c
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Dard Reguloni
Double-Down
Narwhals Ate My Duck
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Posted - 2012.02.08 13:05:00 -
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I too saw it yesterday, not entirely sure how it got to Jita, as i don't think you were ever able to build cap ships in a .9 system. According to the article linked above,
"Please note that it was never possible to create Carriers in systems with security status higher than 0.7. Carriers that somehow find their way into 0.8 and higher will be moved into lowsec by Gamemasters"
It did not however aggress anyone. Simply showing off is not against the rules. |
Cebraio
Starfire Oasis
4
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Posted - 2012.02.08 13:12:00 -
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@Chribba: Good point, that the appearance of capitals in 0.8 and above actually contradicts the history of the whole carriers in Hi-Sec history.
But then what about the Veldnaught in Amarr? It would have to go as well?
Edit: I see, it was possible to build dreadnoughts in 1.0 back in 2005, but it's never been possible to build carriers in 0.8 and above. |
Sverige Pahis
Thunderwaffe
Goonswarm Federation
644
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Posted - 2012.02.08 13:46:00 -
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Chribba wrote:No jealousy here, since i have my fleet of capitals in high-sec already. And while yes it's nice for new people to see them, imo it's all about the history and the rarity of said items and their history of days past.
GMs reimbursing them left and right (yeah I know that's not really the case) makes them less "historic" imo and it they don't really have any history, just a GM not paying attention when reimbursing a ship.
True ships are imo far more historic since they are the from the old days. New pilots can get the whole history of it as well, how at a point in time things could be built there, and even put a RP on it saying like concord changed the restrictions etc.
/c
There's absolutely no reason why you should have a monopoly on capitals in highsec. You come off as jealous. |
Ifly Uwalk
Concentrated Evil
Mining For Profit Alliance
159
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Posted - 2012.02.08 14:16:00 -
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Sverige Pahis wrote:Chribba wrote:No jealousy here, since i have my fleet of capitals in high-sec already. And while yes it's nice for new people to see them, imo it's all about the history and the rarity of said items and their history of days past.
GMs reimbursing them left and right (yeah I know that's not really the case) makes them less "historic" imo and it they don't really have any history, just a GM not paying attention when reimbursing a ship.
True ships are imo far more historic since they are the from the old days. New pilots can get the whole history of it as well, how at a point in time things could be built there, and even put a RP on it saying like concord changed the restrictions etc.
/c There's absolutely no reason why you should have a monopoly on capitals in highsec. You come off as jealous.
No he doesn't. He comes off as someone who's concerned about the history of high-sec capitals. I bet he has no problem with the Sobaseki Phoenix. |
eddie valvetino
Snuff Box
0
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Posted - 2012.02.08 14:52:00 -
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Jint Hikaru wrote:Cebraio wrote:
I think it's nice to have some capitals in high sec to show them to the new players.
As long as it was not used in combat, I'm sure quite a few of the newer players got a thrill seeing it there. I also dont see a problem with it, gives the game some 'history'.
I have to say, I fully agree with this, if the ship is not being used in combat or to assist combat ships, via reps, gang bonuses or any projected mods, does it really matter?
I also agree, that there is something pretty cool for a newer player to "see" their first capital ship, even better for them if they don't then die
Edd |
Aiwha
101st Space Marine Force
Nulli Secunda
127
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Posted - 2012.02.08 16:10:00 -
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Andski wrote:stranger things have happened
i.e. a nulli secunda titan in Rens (cripes)
Party don't start till our titans jump in.
Regards,
LCpl. Aiwha-á
Senior Recruiter |
Serene Repose
Perkone
Caldari State
222
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Posted - 2012.02.08 17:20:00 -
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Chribba wrote:No jealousy here, since i have my fleet of capitals in high-sec already. And while yes it's nice for new people to see them, imo it's all about the history and the rarity of said items and their history of days past.
GMs reimbursing them left and right (yeah I know that's not really the case) makes them less "historic" imo and it they don't really have any history, just a GM not paying attention when reimbursing a ship.
True ships are imo far more historic since they are the from the old days. New pilots can get the whole history of it as well, how at a point in time things could be built there, and even put a RP on it saying like concord changed the restrictions etc.
/c
Hear! Hear! Nice to learn someone gave folks a blast from the past...pardon the pun. It was merely a flyby.
Smokestack lightnin' shinin' just like gold. |
supersexysucker
Uber Awesome Fantastico Awesomeness Group
58
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Posted - 2012.02.08 18:06:00 -
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Thread needs more tears bout a cap in jita. Who cares...
Worried about caps in HS, then move them *ALL* to lowsec. |
Bloodpetal
Mimidae Risk Solutions
428
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Posted - 2012.02.08 20:21:00 -
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Ifly Uwalk wrote:
No he doesn't. He comes off as someone who's concerned about the history of high-sec capitals. I bet he has no problem with the Sobaseki Phoenix.
Chribba jealousy is best jealousy.
Mimidae Risk Solutions Recruiting |
Xercodo
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam
Dark Matter Coalition
873
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Posted - 2012.02.08 20:42:00 -
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Like this?
The Drake is a Lie |
R0Y4L
Scifried
Strategic Military Industries
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Posted - 2012.02.08 20:51:00 -
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its fine .. anyone that had a capital in highsec before they made the changes/restrictions got to keep it there ...
there are 2 revs in amarr system that ive seen and a carrier aswell
IF-á YOU-á-á DONT-á WANNA-á DIE-á DONT-á FLY-á-á |
leich
Sad Panda'z
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
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Posted - 2012.02.10 19:02:00 -
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There was also an explioit a few patches back
it allowed people to put caps into the cargo hold of ships.
i know quiet a few were moved into high sec in this way.
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Sloppy Podfarts
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.02.10 19:04:00 -
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leich wrote:There was also an explioit a few patches back
it allowed people to put caps into the cargo hold of ships.
i know quiet a few were moved into high sec in this way.
Shady.
I like it. |
Mashie Saldana
Veto.
Veto Corp
404
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Posted - 2012.02.10 19:15:00 -
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You want a cap ship in highsec? All it takes is a bit of patience.
Step 1, set medical clone to high sec station of interest.
Step 2, undock in the ship you want moving and log out at a safe.
Step 3, unsub for 6 months.
Step 4, resub and enjoy your ship now docked in your clone station.
There are a LOT of super carriers docked in highsec due to this "feature".
Dominique Vasilkovsky
Mashie Saldana
Monica Foulkes |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration
Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
337
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Posted - 2012.02.10 23:55:00 -
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Cebraio wrote:Chribba wrote:That ship should be moved as it has never been "legal", that is a GM screwup.
Carriers have only been able to be produced in systems up to 0.7 (while the arrays were anchored) - and since Jita is 0.9 the only way for it to get there is it being reimbursed by a GM that didn't check the system.
Petition it.
/c Ok, I didn't know it wasn't built there. Still, I don't think its mere existence is a reason to petition and remove it. (Unless he used the fighters for combat.) Don't be so jealous about it Chribba. I think it's nice to have some capitals in high sec to show them to the new players.
Yah... I agree with these guys. There are a lot of ways to scam and be tricky in this game. I wish I had been smart enough to buy a high sec cap before selling them was disallowed. Sadly I was not. GM screwup or not, I like seeing unusual ships in places they shouldn't be. Leave the high sec caps alone I say... they have enough rules to deal with...
...and now that I think about it... isn't there a ship in some system called the "Veldnought" or something?
...and isn't that a cap? ...in high sec?
EDIT:
Didn't read responces in thread after quote... but it still holds. Hate the game not the playa' C
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K33dra
0ne Percent.
Transmission Lost
1
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Posted - 2012.02.22 15:26:00 -
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Mashie Saldana wrote:You want a cap ship in highsec? All it takes is a bit of patience.
Step 1, set medical clone to high sec station of interest.
Step 2, undock in the ship you want moving and log out at a safe.
Step 3, unsub for 6 months.
Step 4, resub and enjoy your ship now docked in your clone station.
There are a LOT of super carriers docked in highsec due to this "feature".
that is the best explanation for how i ended up in jita with the thanny
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/190/keedra2.gif/
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Schmacos tryne
Norsk Testosteron
15
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Posted - 2012.02.22 15:41:00 -
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Who gives crap about history, This is about the future not the past.
Elements which doesen't belong in the game according to current rules should be (re)moved/reimbursed. But as usual CCP is to god dam CHICKEN to do something proper for once.
As mentioned in this thread a lot of these "caps" are there due to errors and shady methods. So the BIG question is, why does CCP allow these things???
Oh yeah I forgot... Some players are more worth then others <--- CCP POKE |
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GM Homonoia
Game Masters
C C P Alliance
289
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Posted - 2012.02.22 16:40:00 -
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Mashie Saldana wrote:You want a cap ship in highsec? All it takes is a bit of patience.
Step 1, set medical clone to high sec station of interest.
Step 2, undock in the ship you want moving and log out at a safe.
Step 3, unsub for 6 months.
Step 4, resub and enjoy your ship now docked in your clone station.
There are a LOT of super carriers docked in highsec due to this "feature".
This is pretty much the cause for almost all cases where a capital ship ends up in high sec space. This is a very old mechanic, predating capital ships, that had some unintended consequences. This hole will be closed at some point in time. Up until then, please file a petition if your capital ship (or someone else's) ends up in high sec that way and a GM will correct the issue.
Senior GM Homonoia | Info Group | Senior Game Master |
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Tanya Powers
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
815
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Posted - 2012.02.22 16:46:00 -
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Aiwha wrote:Andski wrote:stranger things have happened
i.e. a nulli secunda titan in Rens (cripes) Party don't start till our titans jump in.
Too late PL is already there with 300 giant dildos, 200 plate pussies and their hundreds of cockroaches
They're followed by Raiden with about same fleet in back up just in case. |
Jen'isand Rul
State War Academy
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.02.22 16:52:00 -
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K33dra wrote:Mashie Saldana wrote:You want a cap ship in highsec? All it takes is a bit of patience.
Step 1, set medical clone to high sec station of interest.
Step 2, undock in the ship you want moving and log out at a safe.
Step 3, unsub for 6 months.
Step 4, resub and enjoy your ship now docked in your clone station.
There are a LOT of super carriers docked in highsec due to this "feature". that is the best explanation for how i ended up in jita with the thanny http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/190/keedra2.gif/
Ah i see. Well i gotta say as a new player (had another character, but disliked the name) the one goal that's on my horizon, that I want to accomplish the most, is getting a highsec capital and mining with it. I see that you aren't allowed to buy or sell highsec capitals, does this mean there's no way for me to ever attain one of eve's iconic ships with the guarantee it won't be placed in lowsec?
I understand that since I wasn't around in the days of the highsec capital I may not be able to achieve my goal, but it's nice to dream right? (don't answer)
(please note I'd want to get an original capital which was made in highsec, and the transfer would have to basically be ccp approved) |
Schmacos tryne
Norsk Testosteron
15
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Posted - 2012.02.22 16:56:00 -
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GM Homonoia wrote:Mashie Saldana wrote:You want a cap ship in highsec? All it takes is a bit of patience.
Step 1, set medical clone to high sec station of interest.
Step 2, undock in the ship you want moving and log out at a safe.
Step 3, unsub for 6 months.
Step 4, resub and enjoy your ship now docked in your clone station.
There are a LOT of super carriers docked in highsec due to this "feature". This is pretty much the cause for almost all cases where a capital ship ends up in high sec space. This is a very old mechanic, predating capital ships, that had some unintended consequences. This hole will be closed at some point in time. Up until then, please file a petition if your capital ship (or someone else's) ends up in high sec that way and a GM will correct the issue.
Seems to me it would be a whole lot easier for you to move ALL unintended ships out of Hi-sec then waitiung for the players to do it for you. You do know that this opens up a loophole where say... popular player can keep their ships while the average player may not.
This is a job for YOU not for the playerbase. |
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