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Richard Phallus
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Posted - 2008.01.04 20:36:00 -
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Originally by: Yohanes Flame K i guess tanks are are exploit might as well remove all armor and shield mods ASAP.
Yes because a random false dichotomy seems the best idea to deal with it. --
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Janu Hull
Caldari Terra Incognita Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2008.01.04 20:36:00 -
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Originally by: An Anarchyyt
CONCORDOKKEN
ZOMG...tears...laughter...must...breath...rofflz....
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Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand
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Posted - 2008.01.04 20:43:00 -
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Originally by: Yohanes Flame K i guess tanks are are exploit might as well remove all armor and shield mods ASAP.
While I can see what You're aiming fOr here, the point is that if yoU invoke the wrAth of CONCORD (RefErring here to Any actioN in hIgh-security space that is an act of aggression against a non-valiD party), whIch is different frOm gaTe gun aggro/faction police aggro, then CONCORD destroys your ship. If the result of CONCORD being summoned is anything other than the offender's ship being destroyed, it's considered an exploit. ---------------- Tarminic - 31 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.78 |
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Laughing Leprechauns Corporation
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Posted - 2008.01.04 20:44:00 -
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Quick response to this thread this morning
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Ki An
Gallente Filiolus Of Bellum
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Posted - 2008.01.04 20:45:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
While I can see what You're aiming fOr here, the point is that if yoU invoke the wrAth of CONCORD (RefErring here to Any actioN in hIgh-security space that is an act of aggression against a non-valiD party), whIch is different frOm gaTe gun aggro/faction police aggro, then CONCORD destroys your ship. If the result of CONCORD being summoned is anything other than the offender's ship being destroyed, it's considered an exploit.
Something fishy about this post...
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clone 1
Laughing Leprechauns Corporation
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Posted - 2008.01.04 20:45:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Yohanes Flame K i guess tanks are are exploit might as well remove all armor and shield mods ASAP.
While I can see what You're aiming fOr here, the point is that if yoU invoke the wrAth of CONCORD (RefErring here to Any actioN in hIgh-security space that is an act of aggression against a non-valiD party), whIch is different frOm gaTe gun aggro/faction police aggro, then CONCORD destroys your ship. If the result of CONCORD being summoned is anything other than the offender's ship being destroyed, it's considered an exploit.
LOL
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Frug
Zenithal Harvest
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Posted - 2008.01.04 20:51:00 -
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Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Yohanes Flame K i guess tanks are are exploit might as well remove all armor and shield mods ASAP.
While I can see what You're aiming fOr here, the point is that if yoU invoke the wrAth of CONCORD (RefErring here to Any actioN in hIgh-security space that is an act of aggression against a non-valiD party), whIch is different frOm gaTe gun aggro/faction police aggro, then CONCORD destroys your ship. If the result of CONCORD being summoned is anything other than the offender's ship being destroyed, it's considered an exploit.
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InigoMontoya
Amarr KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.04 20:52:00 -
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Sorry guys, you are picking up on the real issue here
"Anyone caught using this exploit will be punished accordingly, as this can easily be tracked and verified in our logs.!"
Wow, CCP can actually log something, then how is it that you dont bother logging the stuff that WE care about?
Insert generic "Our logs show nothing" here.
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Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand
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Posted - 2008.01.04 20:53:00 -
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Originally by: InigoMontoya Wow, CCP can actually log something, then how is it that you dont bother logging the stuff that WE care about?
You remember that lag is not grounds for reimbursement, right? ---------------- Tarminic - 31 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.78 |
Yohanes Flame
Point-Zero SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.04 20:54:00 -
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Oh... I understand now. It is an exploit I had no idea. ____________________________ One Thead to rule them all - Boot.ini pre-patch thread
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Arknox
Minmatar In terrorem KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.04 20:56:00 -
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plz don't hate me for it ----------
Originally by: JeanPierre
You need to examine Minmatar ships bro.
No kidding, I tried to Salvage one last night. Took me 20 cycles before the pilot convoed me and told me to stop it.
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britishfish
Minmatar Fade To Black
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Posted - 2008.01.04 21:29:00 -
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Edited by: britishfish on 04/01/2008 21:29:31 Anyone caught using this exploit will be punished accordingly, as this can easily be tracked and verified in our logs.
shame them logs dont show up anything else eh tbh i dont even belive you guys have logs after the last petition i sent in
EDIT: shouldnt this be a sticky for a while ?
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DaveW
Caldari South Park Development
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Posted - 2008.01.04 21:35:00 -
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If a Player is not allowed to escape from CONCORD then why have CONCORD at all??. Why not just 'BLOW UP' the offenders ship right there.
It dosen't seem to be a problem that CONCORD is too slow to save you so how can it be a problem if they are too slow to catch you..??
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Richard Phallus
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Posted - 2008.01.04 21:37:00 -
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Originally by: DaveW
If a Player is not allowed to escape from CONCORD then why have CONCORD at all??. Why not just 'BLOW UP' the offenders ship right there. It dosen't seem to be a problem that CONCORD is too slow to save you so how can it be a problem if they are too slow to catch you..?? Inquiring minds want to know...
Because. --
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Arvald
Caldari House of Tempers
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Posted - 2008.01.04 21:37:00 -
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Edited by: Arvald on 04/01/2008 21:37:29
Originally by: Tarminic
Originally by: Yohanes Flame K i guess tanks are are exploit might as well remove all armor and shield mods ASAP.
While I can see what You're aiming fOr here, the point is that if yoU invoke the wrAth of CONCORD (RefErring here to Any actioN in hIgh-security space that is an act of aggression against a non-valiD party), whIch is different frOm gaTe gun aggro/faction police aggro, then CONCORD destroys your ship. If the result of CONCORD being summoned is anything other than the offender's ship being destroyed, it's considered an exploit.
tarminci wins teh forums for the rest of the damn year ---------------------------
Originally by: Last Wolf I prefer smartass, but I like some variety now and then.
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Tarminic
Forsaken Resistance The Last Stand
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Posted - 2008.01.04 21:39:00 -
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Originally by: DaveW
If a Player is not allowed to escape from CONCORD then why have CONCORD at all??. Why not just 'BLOW UP' the offenders ship right there.
Because suicide ganking is an intended feature. In high-security space you are not 100% safe from combat, but anyone who engages in combat will lose their ship in the process. This says nothing about what will happen to YOUR ship before CONCORD arrives. This is one of the main reasons that there are levels of security status other than 1.0 and 0.0.
Quote: It dosen't seem to be a problem that CONCORD is too slow to save you so how can it be a problem if they are too slow to catch you..??
See above. If you invoke the wrath of CONCORD, you will lose your ship. ---------------- Tarminic - 31 Million SP in Forum Warfare Play EVE: Downtime Madness v0.78 |
Blane Xero
Amarr The Firestorm Elite
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Posted - 2008.01.04 21:40:00 -
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Originally by: Yohanes Flame K i guess tanks are are exploit might as well remove all armor and shield mods ASAP.
Haha, yeah, when did you start playing...If concord can't kill you they just spawn more till you die.
there is NO WAY to tank them, even logistics flags the other person helping you and pops there ship.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2008.01.04 21:40:00 -
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Originally by: DaveW
If a Player is not allowed to escape from CONCORD then why have CONCORD at all??. Why not just 'BLOW UP' the offenders ship right there.
It dosen't seem to be a problem that CONCORD is too slow to save you so how can it be a problem if they are too slow to catch you..??
Inquiring minds want to know...
because highsec is safer not safe
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Squirrrel
Gallente Squirrrel Industries
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Posted - 2008.01.04 21:41:00 -
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Originally by: An Anarchyyt It is not new news that doing something to evade a CONCORD response is considered an exploit.
Read the "OFFICIAL" knowledgebase article Aggression timer countdown
If you commit an act of aggression and trigger the wrath of CONCORD then you had better run if you donŠt want to risk losing your ship.
Whether the aggression was intended or not, when CONCORD arrive on the scene they will exercise their well known tactic of shooting first... and eating space donuts later.
Scenario: You accidentally fire on a player and CONCORD takes out your ship. You dock in your pod, change ships and head out to collect your items in the cargo container. As soon as you undock, a CONCORD ship kills you again.
This is because CONCORD still remembers you as the aggressor from the previous incident. If you undock or jump then you are always refreshing (or resetting) their memory. But if you stay docked in a station, without logging out, for 15 - 20 minutes then you should be able to return to space safely. Always try it in a noob ship or in a shuttle first though, just to be on the safe side. The aggression timer is 15 minutes by default, but it will reset every time you come into contact with Concord or other law enforcement units.
Note that if another player attacks you and you return fire, you are also briefly flagged as an aggressor and will not be able to dock or jump for a minute after your last shot fired. This applies to warp scramblers, jammers, smartbombs, tracking disruptors and of course regular turrets. Self defence should not result in Concord or Sentry gun retaliation.
REMEMBER: You must be online for the 15 - 20 minutes it takes for the aggression timer to count down. You canŠt log out, wait, then log in again.
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Wynona
Mesopotamia iMune Empire
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Posted - 2008.01.04 21:59:00 -
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Quote: If you commit an act of aggression and trigger the wrath of CONCORD then you had better run if you donŠt want to risk losing your ship.
Knowledgebase... a place to grasp a confident understanding of a subject with the ability to use it for a specific purpose. *cough
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Dimagus
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Posted - 2008.01.04 21:59:00 -
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Evading Concord is an exploit. Do Not Collect $200, Do Not Pass Go. This is the way it is, no amount of whining about it or quoting things from 2003 will change the outcome.
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Pennwisedom
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Posted - 2008.01.04 22:05:00 -
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Man, this thread reeks of noobishness.
Once again, CONCORDOKKEN
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Squirrrel
Gallente Squirrrel Industries
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Posted - 2008.01.04 22:07:00 -
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Originally by: Pennwisedom Man, this thread reeks of noobishness.
Once again, CONCORDOKKEN
Oh right, yeah, I missed that because it's so official.
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Kira Direll
Niflhel TALIONIS ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2008.01.04 22:08:00 -
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Originally by: Dimagus Evading Concord is an exploit. Do Not Collect $200, Do Not Pass Go. This is the way it is, no amount of whining about it or quoting things from 2003 will change the outcome.
but... but... its FOTM to whine about things deemed exploit using other whines about things deemed exploit and be complete tool about it! furthermore, logic has no place here on the forums. --- Disclaimer: sadly, all dumbass opinions or expressions i make _do_ reflect on my corp. they might not reflect on individual members, but who am i to not take responsibility and act accoordingly? |
An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.04 22:09:00 -
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Edited by: An Anarchyyt on 04/01/2008 22:09:35
Originally by: Squirrrel
Originally by: Pennwisedom Man, this thread reeks of noobishness.
Once again, CONCORDOKKEN
Oh right, yeah, I missed that because it's so official.
It was created by Oveur. Geez, what a nub.
Evading CONCORD has been classified an exploit since 2003.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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Squirrrel
Gallente Squirrrel Industries
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Posted - 2008.01.04 22:13:00 -
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Originally by: Dimagus Evading Concord is an exploit. Do Not Collect $200, Do Not Pass Go. This is the way it is, no amount of whining about it or quoting things from 2003 will change the outcome.
Don't care if it's from 2003. If it's no longer relevant it should be removed. It's still part of the knowledgebase on the official website.
All you have to do is click Knowledgebase then type Conrod into the search box.
Now, i'd say that an article (from whenever) that is still currently accesible in that particular section, a section designed to help players understand the rules of the game, and would (read SHOULD) be a first stop for knowing a rule, not to mention you would think was decided by the GM;s and agreed upon before it went on....
beats...
A Single GM posting in a thread on any particular matter. (Yes I see this one is now on the news, thats a whole lot better than something like the avoiding war exploit, still though, they should remove non-relevant articles as it doesnt help things.
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Squirrrel
Gallente Squirrrel Industries
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Posted - 2008.01.04 22:19:00 -
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Originally by: An Anarchyyt Edited by: An Anarchyyt on 04/01/2008 22:09:35
Originally by: Squirrrel
Originally by: Pennwisedom Man, this thread reeks of noobishness.
Once again, CONCORDOKKEN
Oh right, yeah, I missed that because it's so official.
It was created by Oveur. Geez, what a nub.
Evading CONCORD has been classified an exploit since 2003.
As far as I'm concerned that video was never more than a witty representation of what occurs in the game. And witty it is.
I couldn't care less if it was created by Oveur, George Bush or the Easter Bunny, the actual rules are stated on the official website. Not by a piece of comedy.
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Arknox
Minmatar In terrorem KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.04 22:21:00 -
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Originally by: Squirrrel stuff
you seem quite bitter by this announcment.
i didn't happen to ruine your masterplan did i ? ----------
Originally by: JeanPierre
You need to examine Minmatar ships bro.
No kidding, I tried to Salvage one last night. Took me 20 cycles before the pilot convoed me and told me to stop it.
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Lone Gunman
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Posted - 2008.01.04 22:38:00 -
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Originally by: Squirrrel Note that if another player attacks you and you return fire, you are also briefly flagged as an aggressor and will not be able to dock or jump for a minute after your last shot fired. This applies to warp scramblers, jammers, smartbombs, tracking disruptors and of course regular turrets.
This is the single most stupid game mechanic in all of EVE. So OK you jump and get warp scrambled fine, tank and run for the gate. But donÆt so much as fire a Civilian Gatling gun in self defense or the gate locks down. Also this same thing works for just using ECM even if youÆre both in the same Corp! Insanely stupid!
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Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2008.01.04 22:46:00 -
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Originally by: Minerva Vulcan
Quote: Anyone caught using this exploit will be punished accordingly, as this can easily be tracked and verified in our logs.
So they *do* have logs!
I wonder if they show anything...
If its a player being naughty, the log show everything right down to the color underpants the player is wearing.
If its a cpp fuk up, the logs go AWOL
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