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Jonny JoJo
Amarr The Imperial Guards Darkness Rising Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.05 17:48:00 -
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Edited by: Jonny JoJo on 05/01/2008 17:49:03
Originally by: Karentaki Edited by: Karentaki on 05/01/2008 17:45:05 Well, apparently he is just an alt of a well know pirate
A quote from local, after he finally logged on... in a shuttle: "I said I was going to tell you my main. However, you are such a pvper, then you know who my main is, since you will be familer with killboards"
I believe a "post with your main" is in order here
Also, I was only going to smartbomb you if you were in something worth smartbombing
EDIT: Originally by: 3nkil I don't get jonny. All he does is try to provoke people on the forums. This is just his latest attempt.
QFT
Eh?
Guys, listen up - This guy above thinks that Amarr should pvp from 20km from belts after I proved to him that Sniper and gate uncloak range are not competitive for amarr. Honestly - thats how Amarr pvp should be - Sit cloaked in a belt 20km hoping some noob ratting or miner comes by.
He even wondered why PvPers use MWD's?
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wierchas noobhunter
Cosmic Fusion When Fat Kids Attack
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Posted - 2008.01.05 17:51:00 -
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Originally by: Jonny JoJo Edited by: Jonny JoJo on 05/01/2008 17:49:03
Originally by: Karentaki Edited by: Karentaki on 05/01/2008 17:45:05 Well, apparently he is just an alt of a well know pirate
A quote from local, after he finally logged on... in a shuttle: "I said I was going to tell you my main. However, you are such a pvper, then you know who my main is, since you will be familer with killboards"
I believe a "post with your main" is in order here
Also, I was only going to smartbomb you if you were in something worth smartbombing
EDIT: Originally by: 3nkil I don't get jonny. All he does is try to provoke people on the forums. This is just his latest attempt.
QFT
Eh?
Guys, listen up - This guy above thinks that Amarr should pvp from 20km from belts after I proved to him that Sniper and gate uncloak range are not competitive for amarr. Honestly - thats how Amarr pvp should be - Sit cloaked in a belt 20km hoping some noob ratting or miner comes by.
He even wondered why PvPers use MWD's?
i tho wonder did u pvp ever
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Jonny JoJo
Amarr The Imperial Guards Darkness Rising Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.05 17:56:00 -
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Originally by: wierchas noobhunter Originally by: Jonny JoJo He even wondered why PvPers use MWD's?
i tho wonder did u pvp ever
I sure do. But I asked him how Amarr should setup for close range and long range. Turns out his setups for both long range and close range are IMPOSSIBLE to fit, as Amarr do not have 12 lowslots which is why, when we relised he lost the argument, started saying Pvpers dont need MWD ever, and that Amarr should pvp by sitting cloaked at a belt in lowsec ganking miners.
He thinks some horribly setup apocs are pimp amarr, and could not understand why WiglMorph deathmail apoc was a horrible amarr setup.
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madaluap
Gallente Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2008.01.05 18:37:00 -
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Edited by: madaluap on 05/01/2008 18:40:43 Thats low cheapskate. Why cant the moros tank like a revelation? Why does the moros need to **** around with ammo? Why cant the moros 1 volley bs? Why cant my moros do great alphastrike? Why cant my moros shieldtank properly? Why cant my moros deal (a lot) of other damagetypes.
Why is the dronedamage destroyed once you use normal drones and engage a carrier? Why do you need to use ******* LVL 5 ALL skills to show what the POTENTIAL damage is of a MAXED OUT DREADPILOT. Geez, there arent many people with dread 5 thats for sure....
You even call it a bug. You know that its not a bug and just try to provoke people. Well you did a fine job. Congratulations. _________________________________________________ Breetime
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wierchas noobhunter
Cosmic Fusion When Fat Kids Attack
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Posted - 2008.01.05 18:38:00 -
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Originally by: madaluap Thats low cheapskate. Why cant the moros tank like a revelation? Why does the moros need to **** around with ammo?
its strange for me tho even if we take that moros is worst dread for its job
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Daelin Blackleaf
Aliastra
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Posted - 2008.01.05 18:59:00 -
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Edited by: Daelin Blackleaf on 05/01/2008 19:00:05 Dreads are reasonably well balanced. The Moros is better able to defend itself using drones, it's one of it's few redeeming features, however if those drones are a major factor in it's defense it's already dead.
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Wishy
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.01.05 19:44:00 -
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Still using 2x smarty'ies , i think you'll be dead before you can finnish off the first wave Not only the bonus gives damage give's them 50% hp , I would still go for the rev beacause of no ammmo usage and badass tank and just let the support kill the small thingys ,as for moros might be harder to gank when solo
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Cambarus
The Baros Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.01.05 20:07:00 -
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Originally by: Jonny JoJo Sorry - but look on the role of a dread and what the moros does.
Originally by: The description of the Moros Of all the dreadnoughts currently in existence, the versatile Moros possesses perhaps the greatest capacity to fend off smaller hostiles by itself while concentrating on its primary capital target.
This may come as a surprise to you, but not all dreads are supposed to be equal/even at any given role. The Moros has many weaknesses (which have already been pointed out) to compensate for it's drone buff. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] ~Saint |
Vathar
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.06 18:04:00 -
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How many targets can a dread in siege target? ... not many
How long does it take to target a Battlehsip in siege mode ? ... Too long
Which mean a Moros that gets himself ganked will never actually kill anything having half a brainwith its drones.
If it's in a reasonably sized capitals fight ... the difference becomes minimal.
So, who cares?
Originally by: Radeberger If you plan to make your alliance combat based, recruit pvpers with mining alts rather than miners with pvp alts[/qu |
Aeron Wymond
Gallente Baptism oF Fire VENOM Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.06 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: Jonny JoJo Edited by: Jonny JoJo on 05/01/2008 12:07:14
CCP should fix this as unseige moros - damage is fine, but in seige, moros can outclass any other dread for defending itself. This is a broken if a dread can kill off battleships easaly in seige, as its attack has no seige penelty. Killing moros drons wont work as moros has 500m3 drone bay, meaning 4 waves per moros.
Oh, jonny jojo i'm not sure your either a comedian or just love to complain about nothing. I mean have you even bothered to read the moros description?
Originally by: moros desciption Of all the dreadnoughts currently in existence, the versatile Moros possesses perhaps the greatest capacity to fend off smaller hostiles by itself while concentrating on its primary capital target.
the fact that your whinging about the 'moros can outclass any other dread for defending itself'
THATS IT'S STRENGTH GENIUS!!!!! the revelation has the greatest armor tanking ability and ability to maintain a seige, the pheonix has the greatest shield tanking ability and the ability to ley down insane amount of firepower and the Naglfar is the most versitile (i think).
so basically your complaining that CCP have done something right as the Moros can defend it's self effectivly against battleships as it fills the role of being part dreadnaught and part carrier, hence ogre II's have the equivilent firepower for either a frigate or a dessie. Where carriers and Motherships have fighters that have the equivilent firepower of a crusier (or i read that somewhere).
You also state the Moros - the gallente dreadnaught, the gallente that speicalise in drone boats (the vexor and the Domi) should have a dreadnaught that doesn't have a drone bonus when it has a largest drone bay of any ship (well apart from carriers and mothers but there technically fighter bays) I'll let you realise how stupid that sounds.
so when you realise how stupid this rant of yours is and you go up against a Moros again just take some anti drone precausions - a smartbomb or two maybe some drones of your own and remember if they are a decent moros pilot they've put some serious hours into the game.
And for the sake of the forum either come up with a proper or intellegent complaint or just shut up
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DeadRow
Naqam
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Posted - 2008.01.06 19:22:00 -
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Edited by: DeadRow on 06/01/2008 19:25:16 Nvm actually the bonus you get a HP bonus too ^_^
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Kuzya Morozov
Gallente Organized Combat Consortium
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Posted - 2008.01.06 20:20:00 -
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Cool, anyone who tries the troll to shut-up gets moderated, way to go CCP.
Originally by: zeeZ Exus
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Captain FletcherMiles
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Posted - 2008.01.06 20:29:00 -
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Edited by: Captain FletcherMiles on 06/01/2008 20:29:11 YES LETS MAKE EVERYSHP IN THE GAME EXACTLY THE SAME. BECAUSE THATS GONNA BE FUN AND ECXITING! PLEASE THINK
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Andre Ricard
Gallente Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.06 20:44:00 -
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The best part is, he's wrong.
Originally by: Jonny JoJo For example, a seiged Amarr dread is vurnerable to neutraliser Battleships. A Moros, on the other hand, can still do 1109 DPS via Ogre II, as the Ogre II gets no seige penelty.
To note, this is with all relevant skills at level 5, including Gallente Drone Spec, and who the **** trains that to 5. Getting GalDread 5 still turns your drones into rapevans, but most Moros pilots will probably not be directly outdamaging gank blaster boats with their drones as they won't have GalDread 5.
Never mind that Ogres are slow as molasses even with Drone Nav 5 - you're far more likely to see Berzerkers, which cuts the DPS down even further, into the 750-800 range. More than enough time for a Damage Controlled BS to warp to safety.
Quote: CCP should fix this as unseige moros - damage is fine, but in seige, moros can outclass any other dread for defending itself. This is a broken if a dread can kill off battleships easaly in seige, as its attack has no seige penelty.
You may have forgotten about the fact that the Moros has a lock time penalty while sieged, champ. And it can only lock two targets at once.
And the fact that a Moros doesn't get the range bonus a carrier does so you can just kite a Moros out past 60km with long-range guns and pound it down that way.
But then, I'm one of those DAMN GAME BREAKING MOROS PILOTS so I guess I'm part of the problem. -----
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