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Troezar
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Posted - 2008.01.06 11:32:00 -
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Havign been a battleship pilot for most of my time in EVE I've decided to bite the capital ship bullet and go for a dread. I thought about a Revelation but I'm now thinking a Moros would have more utility. Any opinions?
I will go for carrier later but for now dread opinions only please
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DarthJosh
DEATHFUNK Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2008.01.06 11:36:00 -
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moros\pheonix.
they're both awesome for obvious reasons. being, 250% bonused heavy/sentry drones and constant damage of fthe phoenix, plus phoenix + rapier make an awesome duo @ stations or at gates too, just don't let it get to your head, capitals attract capitals. remember that man.
as for carriers, thani <3 -
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Troezar
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Posted - 2008.01.06 12:08:00 -
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Thanks, I thought the drone bonuses looked good and I do already have half decent Gallente skills.
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Susa Ou
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Posted - 2008.01.06 12:45:00 -
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The 'correct' dread is the the Amarr one - basically, you can sustain a duel tank and the guns which makes it hardy and easy.
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UGLYUGLY
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Posted - 2008.01.06 13:35:00 -
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Revelation is the best dread for dread work. The moros, drones are mean, had one set hammerhead T2 on me, I had to book out fast.
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LeCiel
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Posted - 2008.01.06 15:56:00 -
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how about the minmatar one?
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Riho
Northen Breeze
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Posted - 2008.01.06 15:59:00 -
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for tower killing only the nag is best (4 weapons = sick dmgs)
capital fights whit support and stuff.. pheonix and moros are bit better than nag and revelation.
revelation is best at capital only fights(hapen hardly never :P).. and very nice allso on towers as you dont need ammo and can run stuff better than most. ---------------------------------- Seems that there's a new game that seems to be very popular whit whiners these days. Its called EFT Online.
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major lulz11
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Posted - 2008.01.06 16:09:00 -
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Moro's does have a nice ablity to ward off the little guys.. but pretty painful to execute in siege..
The Nag has 5 high's and 4 weapon slots unlike the other 3 dreads, but its a split weapon system... using 6 dmg mods 3 per each system (gyros and BCU's) is very questionable when you've only got a 5 slot shield tank. so not using a few good pdu's/capflux/faction CPR makes the whole thing moot.
Maybe you can speed tank it while in siege, wink wink nudge nudge..
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J'ghathii
Caldari 54th Knights Templar Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2008.01.06 16:38:00 -
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Originally by: major lulz11 Maybe you can speed tank it while in siege, wink wink nudge nudge..
-100% to velocity while in siege mode. You sir, Fail.
I agree though, if all you're going to be doing is popping towers, Revelation is the way to go; if you want flexibility go Moros/Phoenix. I have no opinion of the Nagg.
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Ariel Dawn
Beets and Gravy Syndicate
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Posted - 2008.01.06 16:43:00 -
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Originally by: Riho for tower killing only the nag is best (4 weapons = sick dmgs)
Unfortunately it has the 2nd lowest DPS when fitted for armor tanking or a sustained shield tank; and is always primary due to it's relatively poor tanking capabilities.
Looks damn cool though.
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Leandro Salazar
Aeon Industries
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Posted - 2008.01.06 16:44:00 -
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Originally by: Riho for tower killing only the nag is best (4 weapons = sick dmgs)
capital fights whit support and stuff.. pheonix and moros are bit better than nag and revelation.
revelation is best at capital only fights(hapen hardly never :P).. and very nice allso on towers as you dont need ammo and can run stuff better than most.
IIRC, on any remotely sensible setup, the Nag does LESS damage than the others, despite having an additional weapon slot. The only thing it really has going for it is that it is one of the if not the best looking ship in EVE.
The Rev is the best for real dread work. Moros and Phoenix are best for battleship work in an oversized ship.
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Fortuk Monmouth
Priory Of The Lemon R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.01.06 17:32:00 -
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TBH I would go for the dread in the race you fly most, if you are mostly amarr, go rev. if you are amarr/gallente go either one, etc etc etc.....
If you are in an alliance any dread=a good dread(the more the merrier)
If you want to go carrier as well, then i would look at the carriers and which you would like. Archon has a mean tank, Thanatos has some more dps, but not as good a tank, chimera has a good tank, but iirc has fitting issues and cap issues(dont fly one), and the nid is an awesome remote rep carrier, but is primary lots of times.
Originally by: hango Our corp chat is generally full of people e-hugging and e-snuggling. ISD is cool like that.
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Troezar
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Posted - 2008.01.06 17:58:00 -
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Thanks for all the input guys most useful
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Tyr Zewa
Caldari MASS Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service
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Posted - 2008.01.06 18:33:00 -
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I was idd very disappointed when i saw the nagl .... a dread with split weapon setup.... who the **** tought that out?
All in all minnie caps seem very lacking compared to other races, dunno why there's so few thread about them, guess people just don't use ehm :P
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Troezar
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Posted - 2008.01.06 18:54:00 -
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Yes I agree I am mainly Minmatar and love the look of the Naglfar but it just seems to have too many disadvantages and no real plus to make me want one
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Tashiell Gao
Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.01.06 21:27:00 -
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Originally by: Fortuk Monmouth TBH I would go for the dread in the race you fly most, if you are mostly amarr, go rev. if you are amarr/gallente go either one, etc etc etc.....
If you are in an alliance any dread=a good dread(the more the merrier)
If you want to go carrier as well, then i would look at the carriers and which you would like. Archon has a mean tank, Thanatos has some more dps, but not as good a tank, chimera has a good tank, but iirc has fitting issues and cap issues(dont fly one), and the nid is an awesome remote rep carrier, but is primary lots of times.
heh you just ignored the minmatar one. now i have an idea how bad it is.
Tashiell Gao,
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CaperPuts
Minmatar Life. Universe. Everything.
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Posted - 2008.01.06 21:51:00 -
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I had a naggle fraggle before. It's terrible.
You're always first to die since it has the worst tank. It DOES NOT do more damage than other dreads when using Artillery. And if you wanted to fit damage mods, you need to fit twice as many to receive the same effect as other dreads.
Basically, worst tank, mediocre damage.
looks cool though.
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Gamesguy
Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.06 23:28:00 -
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Originally by: Susa Ou The 'correct' dread is the the Amarr one - basically, you can sustain a duel tank and the guns which makes it hardy and easy.
No you cant, not in siege anyways.
To the OP, phoenix and revelation are both excellent for anti-pos/anti-capital work, moros has a somewhat worse tank but obviously the drone bonus helps.
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Susa Ou
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Posted - 2008.01.07 01:29:00 -
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but we basically agree that the Revelation is the best for doing POS seiges which is what dreads are used for most. No ammo, best tank (unless you have some serious dead space gear for the Pheonix) and decent damage - it does not have much combat versitility. . .but then again, its a dread.
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Gamesguy
Amarr D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.07 01:37:00 -
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Originally by: Susa Ou but we basically agree that the Revelation is the best for doing POS seiges which is what dreads are used for most. No ammo, best tank (unless you have some serious dead space gear for the Pheonix) and decent damage - it does not have much combat versitility. . .but then again, its a dread.
Phoenix has the same tank as a revelation(might even be better actually since the shield booster buff), plus it can change damage types. Its a superior dread.
chimera sucks compared to archon, which is why amarr is better.
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Andre Ricard
Gallente Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.07 05:46:00 -
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Due to the fact that it gets two damage bonuses, the Phoenix will out-damage a Naglfar. For anti-capital work the Phoenix is probably better than the Revelation due to the huge range and the fact that the weapons don't need to track, so your siege will not be thrown off if your target moves. Although if you can arrange it, a Moros with blasters does truly absurd DPS, even without any damage mods, and the drones are icing on a very tasty cake.
The Moros is great for ******* around with fighters and support fleets, while the Rev is another good "tank forever, shoot forever" ship.
The Naglfar is the odd man out, I'm afraid. It's poor all around and needs to be looked at. -----
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