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zalant SUPER AWESOME COOL	Posted - 2008.01.07 06:45:00 - [1] The IPO basics : 3 Billion to start \| 5 Billion cap 1 Share = 50 million \| 100 shares max \| 60 shares minimum sold to start Time frame : 4 Months (120 days) for full buyback of all shares Payout : Month 1 5% ~ 2.5mil per share \| 2.5m gain Month 2 6% ~ 3mil per share \| 5.5m gain Month 3 7% ~ 3.5mil per share \| 9m gain Month 4 8% ~ 4mil per share + buyback \| 13m gain \| 26% total earned over 4 months (6.5%) The Plan : Using the old tried and true method of buy low & sell high I plan to move low to mid range items for profit. I do not like risk taking so I will be avoiding high ticket items. Now, to go with the low/mid range items requires a bit more work but it is solid money that will always give me a return. Also if for some reason I lost a shipment it would not hurt quite as much moving these items as opposed to losing high ticket items. Why an IPO for this? Simple. You need big money to be able to make big money, and I do not trust "eve banks". Once I have run through the entire 4 months I should be able to continue on without assistance in this enterprise. Will my aspirations be bigger after this is done? Perhaps. And if they do I may move into other areas that require more ISK. But until then I will stick with something that I know works.
zalant SUPER AWESOME COOL	Posted - 2008.01.07 07:07:00 - [2] Originally by: Treelox So I have to ask... Do you have any experience in what you plan to do with the raised venture capital? Why dont you trust any of the "eve banks"? For me the "eve banks" would be BMBE, Fury Bank and EBank. I am really currious to your answer, since most of us residents here in MD put so much trust in these idividuals, who you apparently dont trust, its almost a trust conflict. What circumstances whould cause you to sell off the difference between your starting 3bil and the 5bil cap in shares? Are we to assume from your statement, "if for some reason I lost a shipment.." that you will be hauling aswell as trading? As a side note, I got to say there will be people put off by your corp name. I do have experience in what I plan to do with the capitol. I've been doing it on a small scale ever since I started to play EVE. I don't trust the eve banks due to some scams in the past that involved them. It is nothing personal with you or any of the other current banks. The 3 bil min starting is simply the minimum amount I would need to set things in motion. 5 bil would enable me to do it faster obviously. I would be doing some hauling yes, as well as having trusted friends assist me who have carriers & other jump capable ships. I am very careful however you can't stop all suicidal maniacs. :)
zalant SUPER AWESOME COOL	Posted - 2008.01.07 07:15:00 - [3] Originally by: Dr Slurm Originally by: zalant You need big money to be able to make big money... This is untrue, you are just unwilling to spend the time it takes to get from 100m to 1bil and then to 5bil. I'll be honest, you are correct with that. But I see an opportunity right now and a void that I can fill in a market and I would like to be able to take advantage of it.
zalant SUPER AWESOME COOL	Posted - 2008.01.07 07:26:00 - [4] Originally by: Treelox Originally by: zalant I don't trust the eve banks due to some scams in the past that involved them. It is nothing personal with you or any of the other current banks. You do realise that none of the current banks are not the scam bank of the past? Originally by: zalant The 3 bil min starting is simply the minimum amount I would need to set things in motion. 5 bil would enable me to do it faster obviously. Can I assume that if you dont raise 3bil that you will consider this IPO failed and close shop, refunding all investors? 3bil is your min, but 5bil is your real goal for this IPO, correct? Originally by: zalant I would be doing some hauling yes, as well as having trusted friends assist me who have carriers & other jump capable ships. I am very careful however you can't stop all suicidal maniacs. :) So we have to trust your friends too? Jump capable ships.....does this mean low sec and/or 0.0 will be involved? If low sec and 0.0 are involved what protection do you plan to employ against such "suicidal maniacs"? Is there a pvp main, that you are the alt of? Too many quotes Yes I do know that none of the current ones are not the bank of the past. As I said before it is nothing personal. Correct. If I am not able to raise 3 bil I would refund the money. I will not use any of the money until I hit the 3 bil minimum. Yes 5 bil is the real goal, but I am realistic and understand that I may not reach that high. Low sec and 0.0 would be involved yes. I am a pvp character. Protection would be simple. If there are any potental hostiles around the items wouldn't go there. If/when things are jumped it would be direct from a station in low sec to an npc station in 0.0. I am not new to low security and know quite well how to keep things safe. The suicidal maniacs I was referring to would be the high sec gate campers.
zalant SUPER AWESOME COOL	Posted - 2008.01.07 07:33:00 - [5] Originally by: Treelox Edited by: Treelox on 07/01/2008 07:18:34 If low sec and 0.0 is invovled, you are raising the risk of our potential investments, in doing so you make the reward, your intrest paybacks to investors, seem rather paltry ---edit added last line about risk VS reward What amount of payback would you think to be fair then?
zalant SUPER AWESOME COOL	Posted - 2008.01.07 07:42:00 - [6] Scouting I can do myself with alts. Paying for the fuel of course. I am fortunate to have friends that would not charge me for more than that, since I would be also helping them by getting the goods to the areas and they would like to see me stop saying "Geez I hate not being able to afford X".
zalant SUPER AWESOME COOL	Posted - 2008.01.07 07:51:00 - [7] Edited by: zalant on 07/01/2008 07:51:58 Originally by: Treelox Originally by: zalant Originally by: Treelox If low sec and 0.0 is invovled, you are raising the risk of our potential investments, in doing so you make the reward, your intrest paybacks to investors, seem rather paltry What amount of payback would you think to be fair then? Well thats a bit of a loaded question, of course as a potential investor I want as much iskies as i can get for doing nothing but "loaning" you some money for a few months. How much can you afford? How much do you think is fair? What have past offerings of similar nature offered and been succesful in their operations and garnering enough intial intrest? What are you competing against, return wise? For example are their currently ventures being offered that are high sec in nature and offer a higher cumultive return than yours of 6.5% I can not answer these questions, only you can answer the intial question of "what ammount of payback would you think is fair then?". You know the numbers, you know what your margin is, you know the plan. I have not looked through all of the older IPO's , but from what I've read of recient threads around 7% seems to be average and higher than that tends to scare investors off. I would be willing to go higher, the profit is good enough to support it but not everything I plan on selling will be a huge margin. Would 36% over the 4 months be more attractive? Month 1 7% \| 3.5mil Month 2 8% \| 4mil Month 3 10% \| 5mil Month 4 11% \| 5.5mil : total 18mil
zalant SUPER AWESOME COOL	Posted - 2008.01.08 01:05:00 - [8] Amazing. I come back to 40 or so crap posts. I thought the trolls lived in COAD but I guess I was wrong. At the state of this thread it is obvious that I will not be able to get this to work. Who is going to read through all the garbage to get to the real information? I am disappointed. But such is EVE. If anyone has actually sent me any money for shares when I log in I will return it with a thank you mail. See you in space, hopefully in 0.0.

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