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Ursula LeGuinn
Versus Gloria Omnis
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Posted - 2008.01.07 10:08:00 -
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Edited by: Ursula LeGuinn on 07/01/2008 10:10:24
I did a bit of research recently, because I wanted to know approximately how many skill points I'd have after I'd been playing EVE for a year. Currently, I have a full set of +4 attribute implants, and I still need to work on getting all my Learning skills to 4 (and Learning to V, probably). It would be nice to get some +5s at some point in the remote future as well.
I consulted the Quarterly Economic Newsletter (2007), and noticed the following text:
"There are 191 characters that have more than 70 million skill points, and of those only four have 80 million skill points or more. The character with the highest number of skill points is just shy of 91 million; a loyal pilot that has been with EVE since the game began in May 2003."
Since the Newsletter was published in November 2007, I did some quick math and determined that the player with 91 million skill points had been playing EVE for 54 months. I did some more math (converting months into hours, and dividing 91 million SP by that figure), and determined that this highly skilled character has averaged approximately 2300 SP/hour for every single hour of every single day, from the date EVE Online was released until November 2007.
That seems pretty extreme. The guy must, at the very least, have trained every single Learning skill to V ASAP, and gotten +4-+5 implants early on. He must have hardly lost any training time at all (i.e., when you go away for a weekend and forget to set a long skill to train). He must not have jumped into an implant-less clone to go into PvP very often.
Maybe I'm missing something, but even with max learning skills, all +5 implants, and training a skill that uses my best attributes, I can't see myself averaging 2300 SP/hour.
What gives?
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2008.01.07 10:18:00 -
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He's min-maxed his character, and has focused almost exclusively on Int-Mem skills.
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RaTTuS
BIG Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2008.01.07 11:03:00 -
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Edited by: RaTTuS on 07/01/2008 11:05:56 also , Dr Caymus has not missed any significant time training and plugged in better implants as soon as he was able, -- BIG Lottery, BIG Deal, InEve [Now Verified] & Recruiting
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Kazuma Saruwatari
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Posted - 2008.01.07 13:20:00 -
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Rumormill points to that the most Dr. Caymus has missed was 12 hours.
Of course, rumor, and my source was less-than-reliable when I asked (read: shat-face drunk ), so... -
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Durzel
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Posted - 2008.01.07 13:35:00 -
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A bit depressing really, don't these people ever go on holiday? :)
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RaTTuS
BIG Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2008.01.07 13:48:00 -
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you can set long skills for holiday periods
-- BIG Lottery, BIG Deal, InEve [Now Verified] & Recruiting
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Dr Caymus
Gallente Applied Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2008.01.07 13:55:00 -
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... or take the laptop as will be the case later this month
I've missed a cumulative total of approximately seven days of training since the game's inception. My longest lapse was 14 hours if I remember correctly, and I had a 12-or-so hour lapse as recently as a couple of months ago (2007 was a very busy year).
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Valrandir
Gallente Slacker Industries Cult of War
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Posted - 2008.01.07 14:44:00 -
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The maximum sp/hour is 2739, 2300 is not hard.
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Shaemell Buttleson
Darwin With Attitude oooh Shiny
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Posted - 2008.01.07 15:48:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Caymus ... or take the laptop as will be the case later this month
I've missed a cumulative total of approximately seven days of training since the game's inception. My longest lapse was 14 hours if I remember correctly, and I had a 12-or-so hour lapse as recently as a couple of months ago (2007 was a very busy year).
Can't say your not dedicated.
If i took a laptop on holiday I think my wife would brain me with it while I slept.
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Malcanis
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.01.08 01:34:00 -
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Originally by: Ursula LeGuinn Edited by: Ursula LeGuinn on 07/01/2008 10:10:24
I did a bit of research recently, because I wanted to know approximately how many skill points I'd have after I'd been playing EVE for a year. Currently, I have a full set of +4 attribute implants, and I still need to work on getting all my Learning skills to 4 (and Learning to V, probably). It would be nice to get some +5s at some point in the remote future as well.
I consulted the Quarterly Economic Newsletter (2007), and noticed the following text:
"There are 191 characters that have more than 70 million skill points, and of those only four have 80 million skill points or more. The character with the highest number of skill points is just shy of 91 million; a loyal pilot that has been with EVE since the game began in May 2003."
Since the Newsletter was published in November 2007, I did some quick math and determined that the player with 91 million skill points had been playing EVE for 54 months. I did some more math (converting months into hours, and dividing 91 million SP by that figure), and determined that this highly skilled character has averaged approximately 2300 SP/hour for every single hour of every single day, from the date EVE Online was released until November 2007.
That seems pretty extreme. The guy must, at the very least, have trained every single Learning skill to V ASAP, and gotten +4-+5 implants early on. He must have hardly lost any training time at all (i.e., when you go away for a weekend and forget to set a long skill to train). He must not have jumped into an implant-less clone to go into PvP very often.
Maybe I'm missing something, but even with max learning skills, all +5 implants, and training a skill that uses my best attributes, I can't see myself averaging 2300 SP/hour.
What gives?
By way of contrast I know someone who start playing in the first week. He has just over 65M SP.
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Teragosa
Caldari coracao ardente Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.15 02:35:00 -
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Didn't they used to have higher than +5 implants?
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Kailiani
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2008.01.15 04:15:00 -
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Originally by: Teragosa Didn't they used to have higher than +5 implants?
I believe theres +7's in the database, not sure if they have ever been put in the game before. Try typeing '- elite' in chat box and item link it.
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Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
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Posted - 2008.01.15 06:52:00 -
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Originally by: Shaemell Buttleson
Originally by: Dr Caymus ... or take the laptop as will be the case later this month
I've missed a cumulative total of approximately seven days of training since the game's inception. My longest lapse was 14 hours if I remember correctly, and I had a 12-or-so hour lapse as recently as a couple of months ago (2007 was a very busy year).
Can't say your not dedicated.
If i took a laptop on holiday I think my wife would brain me with it while I slept.
not that hard to find 5 mins to log on and change from one long skill to another.
oh and my alt gets 2607 sp/hr in int/mem, could get 2706sp/hr with a bit of training
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RaTTuS
BIG Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2008.01.15 09:36:00 -
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+6 and +7 implants have been in the database forever but have never been available at all ever - no one has any plugged in -- BIG Lottery, BIG Deal, InEve [Now Verified] & Recruiting
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Ryuga VonRhaiden
Caldari Insurgent New Eden Tribe Deus Ex.
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Posted - 2008.01.15 17:14:00 -
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my calculations show dr. caymus has 2704 sp/h in mem-int skills (industry) and 2640 in anything int-mem related (science, electronics)...
so it is entirely possible that over years he averaged 2300 sp/h :)
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Talidorn
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.15 18:28:00 -
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If anything they trained slower previously.
Start of EvE, addition of Adv Learning, Addition of +5s = skills now train faster.
So to the OP... the answer is no.
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Zorai Miraden
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Posted - 2008.01.16 06:38:00 -
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With the number of skills now available I would like it if a third tier of learning skills was added.
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Lochmar Fiendhiem
Caldari International Multi-Player Consortium Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.01.16 07:39:00 -
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my alt is getting 2374sp/h at the moment, maxed the learning skills right away and got a +5 mem and +4 for the rest. I was getting 2652ish sp/h with memory as primary attribute, but it is lessened with intelligence as primary.
Originally by: Halkin bob is dead, goons are great, cheese is cheesy, there we go no need for any more threads
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Ryuga VonRhaiden
Caldari Insurgent New Eden Tribe Deus Ex.
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Posted - 2008.01.16 15:53:00 -
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Originally by: Zorai Miraden With the number of skills now available I would like it if a third tier of learning skills was added.
well, they'll more probably first add a tier2 "Learning" skill (another 2-3% per level bonus, rank3 probably, in line with adv.learning)...
a third tier would be hard to balance :P
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Panch0Villa
Caldari
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Posted - 2008.01.16 16:26:00 -
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I say when they get tired of switching skills, they go on skill-switching vacation and just set some skill like BS V, Adv Spaceship Cmd V, Carrier V, etc etc. Don't switch skills for a month. Surely they must have most or all of the Rank 1/2/3 skills maxed already...
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ponieus
the united
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Posted - 2008.01.16 21:59:00 -
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also keep in ming guys you used to gain skill points for doing actions also.
long time ago ccp removed this but it did give a head up for folks that had nothing more to do than click a button..
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BlackMatrix
Gallente L-O-S-T
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Posted - 2008.01.17 17:49:00 -
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Originally by: Ursula LeGuinn Edited by: Ursula LeGuinn on 07/01/2008 10:10:24
Maybe I'm missing something, but even with max learning skills, all +5 implants, and training a skill that uses my best attributes, I can't see myself averaging 2300 SP/hour.
What gives?
In answer to your question in the title "Did Skills Used to Train Faster?" The answer is no ... they used to train a lot slower. When I started playing "Tier 2" advanced learning skills weren't seeded and the biggest implant was +3. Sorry now you're probably really confused
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RaTTuS
BIG Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2008.01.17 18:00:00 -
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yeah one lot of learning skills then the +3 implants where released - you had to mission ***** to get them - different corps gave different types +1 and +2 implants came later [as well as advanced learnings] -- BIG Lottery, BIG Deal, InEve [Now Verified] & Recruiting
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Ethion
mUfFiN fAcToRy Sex Panthers
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Posted - 2008.01.17 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: ponieus also keep in ming guys you used to gain skill points for doing actions also.
long time ago ccp removed this but it did give a head up for folks that had nothing more to do than click a button..
I thought that was only during beta. Cause if that was in when the game went live then I feel a little Fukered
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Janus Ovellian
Minmatar Encina Technologies Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2008.01.18 02:25:00 -
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Originally by: Ethion
Originally by: ponieus also keep in ming guys you used to gain skill points for doing actions also.
long time ago ccp removed this but it did give a head up for folks that had nothing more to do than click a button..
I thought that was only during beta. Cause if that was in when the game went live then I feel a little Fukered
Don't.
It didn't last that long.
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Bahzell McIntyre
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Posted - 2008.01.18 08:13:00 -
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I'm pretty new to EVE myself.
I made some mistakes setting up my character, but pimped it out pretty thoroughly implant wise. I simply don't have much time to play right now, basically just log in to change skills, but I'm planning for the future. Thus, it's pretty easy for me to focus on learning skills. I spent some time getting to BC and training missile skills for level 3 missioning in a drake. Then I went nuts on training those learning skills. I also don't have any problem purchasing GTC when I need isk for implants/skill books, since the time it takes me to make 15 dollars to buy a GTC can be measured in minutes, compared to the many hours to farm 200 million isk. I started my character August 26, 2007.
I have 5 +5 implants. By February 5th, I will have level 5 on all 11 learning skills. This gives me, with my rather unbalanced stats due to extreme ignorance when going through character creation progress, the following values according to Evemon on February 5th. This is from memory, but should be accurate except the partials. 26.4 Int, 26.4 Mem, 27.5 Will, 23.1 Per, 24.2 Chr.
My Mem and Int based skills are calculated at over 2300 sp/hr, although I don't recall the exact number. I'm currently at 7.3 million SP after approx 4 months and 3 weeks. I have no idea what the average is.
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ponieus
the united
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Posted - 2008.01.18 21:49:00 -
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Originally by: Janus Ovellian
Originally by: Ethion
Originally by: ponieus also keep in ming guys you used to gain skill points for doing actions also.
long time ago ccp removed this but it did give a head up for folks that had nothing more to do than click a button..
I thought that was only during beta. Cause if that was in when the game went live then I feel a little Fukered
Don't.
It didn't last that long.
the problem was it lasted long enough for peeps to macro certain things and get free sp for it.. but yeah didnt last long enough to make alot of differnce but lasted long enough for a difference.
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Emirii Roozu
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Posted - 2008.01.19 22:05:00 -
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I seem to remember downtime/crashes and skills completing training every once in a while. I could be mistaken, but I think more than a couple people hit lvl 5 in a couple skills that way, right around/after release.
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