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Wayson
Minmatar Trans Nebula Inc. The Threshold
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Posted - 2008.02.20 06:17:00 -
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My personal theory? It's artificially induced.
Consider. Most of our archaeological evidence suggests that Humanity is not native to this area of our galaxy. Accordingly we must have migrated or otherwise transited here at some point in the past, prior to what appears to be a general loss of technology for unknown reasons.
It logically follows that unless Humanity came here fleeing some cataclysm in its original home system(s), the Human race exists in some form elsewhere in the cosmos. Human nature being static (rumors of Jovian tampering aside), we can safely posit that either for reasons of curiosity, exploration, or exploitation, these other humans will attempt at some point to make contact with us.
Thus the star is either the remnant of a former failed attempt, or a warning heralding the beginning of one. ___ Victory smiles upon those who anticipate the changes in the character of war, not upon those who wait to adapt themselves after they occur. ~Guilio Douhet |
Stork DK
Synthetic Frontiers
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Posted - 2008.02.20 10:47:00 -
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A strange Bright Star - Astronomy conference by The University of Caille.
I'm all for it to be the EvE gate, iirc the chronicle say that once in a decade or so the pulsing energy it emits erupts greatly and then fade out so scientists can get close enough to examin it. Maybe we can finally get to use it and visit our ancestors.
Further speculation may require extensive use of this :)
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Symon Kauliford
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.02.20 12:22:00 -
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I wonder if its a naked singularity? Not quite sure what properties one of those would have but it would be pretty damn weird to say the least. If an already existing black hole somehow managed to lose mass or gain spin would account for its sudden appearance as before then we wouldn't have seen anything cause it was black.
Just my random musings. Whatever it is it's gravimetric properties must be something odd as only gravity can cause light to travel at what appears to be different speeds in a vacuum.
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TriXirT
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Posted - 2008.02.20 12:45:00 -
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The earth is a lie!!!
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Babel
Utopian Research I.E.L. Hedonistic Imperative
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Posted - 2008.02.21 12:07:00 -
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Originally by: Feng Schui What do we know about this mysterious light in the sky?
- It showed up in every known solar system at the same time
- It has very abnormal readings, it is not a star at all
- We don't know where it is coming from
- We really don't know anything at all about it
So it/they would appear to be artificial, perhaps a beacon? Maybe a beacon fulfilling the same function our own cynosural fields .... ?
A very worrying thought indeed ... .
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Kyoko Sakoda
Caldari Ghost Festival
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Posted - 2008.02.21 14:17:00 -
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Originally by: Babel So it/they would appear to be artificial, perhaps a beacon? Maybe a beacon fulfilling the same function our own cynosural fields .... ?
A very worrying thought indeed ...
If it is artificial I don't think we have much to worry about. It is, after all. 3.64 million light-years away. I believe the distance is of note, because it tells us that the source is within the range of neighborhood galaxies. So whatever it is, this thing is not from around here, but it ain't far, either.
Also, it's pretty sad to hear people are being so quick to jump and make assumptions. Science is all about the repetitive cycle of observation and theory, after all, meaning sometimes known laws of physics break down. I'm sure the more religious among us will use this as clout for whatever agenda they perpetuate.
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Redpants
Gallente Dark Star LTD Atrocitas
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Posted - 2008.02.22 01:33:00 -
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Naturally I don't know what the hell that star is in the sky. It's not a star so thats out of the question. Whatever it is is way the hell off and must be enormous, at least the size of several stars. An explosion maybe, who knows.
What I do know is this. I am already becoming greatly annoyed by it. Not the star itself per se, but the fanfair being drummed up about it. Now I agree it's odd, sure it's odd and new and unusual, but that's it. I'm not afraid of it, I don't think it's god and I certainly don't think it's the other side of the EVE gate (something some people think is one in the same.)
I'm already getting flashed over ****ed off the more stations I go to lately that have these religious zealots playing instruments and singing and wailing away about it. You seen these people yet? There the same kind of people who suck their life away on Drop all day and flake out to bad music and poetry about how bad warp drives are for the environments planetside. If I've seen them across several systems I know some of you people have to have too.
I'm getting real close to doing something about it. I'm looking forward to a beer bottle to the face or being detained from killing one of them with thier own drums or those annoying rattles. And I've already observed you cannot argue with these lunatics either. To me the argument that if god exists, he is not a bright light in the distance is a clear one. But watching this one Amarrian try and point that out to a group the other day was an exercise in futility if not hilarity. I was laughing at least.
The irony was delicious, you've got the argument that god is a giant invisible man in the sky on one hand and that he's a giant bright light in the sky on the other, and they're both yelling about how the other one is wrong! How rich! It's too much!
"My once immaculate white pants are now stained from the weak and innocent. I don't wear red." |
Eleana Tomelac
Gallente Through the Looking Glass
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Posted - 2008.02.22 15:08:00 -
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This conference only showed that no human scientist has an explanation for this thing!
I heard tales of a jovian that has been working with CONCORD in the past years while all others left our part of the galaxy and closed the gates. I'm not saying it's impossible that he left and has gone home, but he may still be coming into our part of the galaxy sometimes, I guess jovians have no issue with travelling without gates.
So, I think we need some help from higher understanding beings. The jove could help us, but we still need a way to reach them. -- Pocket drone carriers (tm) enthousiast !
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Beletre
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.02.22 15:57:00 -
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Well, if we're looking for second opinions, why not send a transmission to the rogue drones asking what they think aobut it.
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Per Bastet
Amarr B.O.O.M Socius Tutaminis Velox
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Posted - 2008.02.22 16:03:00 -
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Originally by: Eleana Tomelac This conference only showed that no human scientist has an explanation for this thing!
I heard tales of a jovian that has been working with CONCORD in the past years while all others left our part of the galaxy and closed the gates. I'm not saying it's impossible that he left and has gone home, but he may still be coming into our part of the galaxy sometimes, I guess jovians have no issue with travelling without gates.
So, I think we need some help from higher understanding beings. The jove could help us, but we still need a way to reach them.
I agree we should contact the Jove, they are more advanced in the sciences and may be able to help us. Because if it is something that is a threat it could be a threat to them as well.
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Beletre
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.02.22 16:48:00 -
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In honesty, I'd recomend a multi-teir ILA. Incredibally Large Array. A number of regular sensors spread out in a simple patten a known distance from each other. Useing the combined data from each sensor in the array, the result is an image of quality as if from a single huge sensor. The technology has been around for ages, but with faster then light travel, has fallen by the wayside, as it's easier to just fly a scout ship to whatever it is you're looking at. Plus, whatever data you collect is as old as the light you collect. aka, something 20 light years away, you see what happened 20 years ago. But, in this case, might be useful.
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Dikaios
Ordo Drakonis
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Posted - 2008.02.23 02:28:00 -
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Perhaps the Jove have come up with a sort of Super Star Gate with the ability to jump from any system too any system. This could explain its sudden appearance everywhere
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Hon Kovell
Gallente Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2008.02.23 03:56:00 -
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There's only one technology I know of that involves simultaneous events in multiple star systems - or at least near to. Stargates. Do systems without stargates have their own new star? It's not something any pod pilots I know can test but the empires all have their own probes sweeping the galaxy for new systems to incorporate.
The report recently released from CONCORD (mentioned here) talks of remotely activating multiple gates. If gate security is so easily circumvented by the knowledgeable it's not unreasonable to consider a link between the new 'star' and the gate network. On the other hand, it may just be a wormhole phenomenon related to the wormholes used by the stargates.
If this is a deliberate action rather than a 'natural' phenomenon I can not think of what the intent behind it might be (although I wouldn't rule out a new Quafe advertising campaign).
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Adarr
Caldari g guild Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2008.02.23 06:58:00 -
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It could be the result of a massive weapon that was fired elsewhere in the universe, meaning it would be artificially generated as others have suggested.
The cyno-field theory presented earlier is also interesting. A cyno field far away for some sort of inter-galactic starship, perhaps?
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Ikasu
Gallente Scrutari The Cyrene Initiative
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Posted - 2008.02.23 07:12:00 -
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Maybe it's the most hardcore, kickass, Gallentean rock concert ever. I don't care what the Amarr say, the Gallente know how to ROCK!
On a serious note, it's definitely artificially produced and until we have proper coordinates to investigate it we can only speculate. I liked the Eve Gate theory, about the other side closing, but honestly I wouldn't be surprised if it was the Jove. We haven't heard anything from them in so long and our space seems so cut off from them, they might be up to. Too many possibilities right now, but unless it's a weapon there's no rush.
If it is a weapon? I'd sacrifice my very livelihood to stop it, and I'm sure many others would too. Even pirates know that home is home, and we could count on the capsuleers to stop it. So, to the theories of it being a weapon, maybe, but there would be no worry if it was one. -------------------------------------------------- My post does not represent views of my Alliance.
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Rramar Claime
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Posted - 2008.02.23 12:10:00 -
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Originally by: Adarr It could be the result of a massive weapon that was fired elsewhere in the universe, meaning it would be artificially generated as others have suggested.
The cyno-field theory presented earlier is also interesting. A cyno field far away for some sort of inter-galactic starship, perhaps?
This is interesting. Does any of you believe that this observation could gather all the races, also pirates and non pirates together? If not to fight against a new enemy (maybe we went too far with that idea), then to find out what it is? I'm just asking, would like to know what you people think.
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Sans Intelect
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Posted - 2008.02.25 03:35:00 -
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After financing a MTVLA ( Multi-Tiered Very Large Array) at great personal expense that spanned 38 star systems, our investigation has revealed that the unusual star that is seen in every star system is none other than Elvis Presley being brought to the EVE gate by little grey, big eyed aliens who intend to send him home because he is eating them out of house and home.
Oh, and there is a fleet of 38 trillion Titan sized warships following behind and a few billion support ships trailing along in a cometary tail behind them.
But ELVIS is ALIVE!!! YAY!
Sans Intelect.
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Rainrix Deathwish
Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.02.25 05:41:00 -
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I know one thing for sure... That thing gives me the creeps.
I'm sure the Jove are already researching into it, Unless it was them that caused it in the first place. But personally even though i'm trying to stay on the good side with them, I don't really trust them.
Ah well I reckon they'll tell their favoured Gallente and Caldari soon enough!
In the meantime lets all keep an eye out. This could be the start of something big...
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Aineko Stryer
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.02.25 16:44:00 -
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Just a side note to the "other side of the EVE gate collapsing"-theory:
If the triangulation is correct and it is really 3.6 mio light years a way, isnŠt the time frame wrong?
Also it doesnŠt explain, why it showed up simultaniously everywhere in the cluster.
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Theory666
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Posted - 2008.03.01 01:48:00 -
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People, people, we could spend days,months,or years guessing what it is (yes I said guessing, even a hypothesis or a theory is still only a guess as to what this light is). The only way we may ever know is to visit this light and determine for ourselves what it is. We have the technology. Command ships that can jump anywhere they want (pretty much). One of my frigates can move at over 2000 s/m with a micro warp drive. If we really want to see whats inside we should travel there, and take a look. But if it is, say, the light from sol's end of the Eve-gate then it would take years to get there.
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Nelenath
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Posted - 2008.03.01 02:47:00 -
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Originally by: TriXirT The earth is a lie!!!
If you'll excuse me butting in here, I know I've not properly introduced myself, but I felt moved to comment on this. I don't think I'd go so far as to assume Earth is a lie - that's pretty strong phrasing. The truth is that we don't have any real evidence one way or the other - although as someone's already pointed out, our archaeological records do indicate that we didn't evolve in this part of the Galaxy. Some suggest we might not originate in this galaxy at all, but I've never understood quite what they base that on.
But is it really that unreasonable to suppose that we might have travelled some distance to get here? After all, we have stargates, so it's not as if the technology is completely outlandish. And why should we rule out the possibility of some sort of natural stargate? If we accept that, then it's not such a leap to the idea that there might have been another planet - maybe even a number of planets - on the far side. For myself, I see no harm in referring to that hypothetical planet as 'Earth'. I'm not sure whether the stories we get told as kids are necessarily true - they're all pretty vague, when you think about it - but it's one thing to say that Earth's a mysterious possibility; something else entirely to claim it's a lie.
As for the Star, well, obviously I don't know any more than the rest of you. But a couple of you have said it makes you uncomfortable. My feelings are rather different. For some reason, and I know this'll seem odd, I find it sort of comforting. I suppose it might be down to the possibility that it's artificial - in which case it means we're not alone out here, and if that's so, there's just as much chance that whoever has found a way to attract our attention might help us rather than exterminate us. That might be the reason I feel the way I do - but I don't think it's quite that simple. There's just... something.
Meh. I don't know. I'm just a traveller. But to me it just feels as though it's watching over us somehow. |
FarScape III
Journey On Squad
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Posted - 2008.03.01 17:05:00 -
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It seems to be not so far away but then it seems you can never get any closer. ??? Strange.
But I thought it was huge compounds causing interferance in our ships computers looking like a star.
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Magnum III
Journey On Squad
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Posted - 2008.03.03 16:48:00 -
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I think I know what it is know from reading the history of the EVE gate.
Huge bright storms come out of the EVE gate.
And So what we are seeing is the ACTUAL brightness of the ACTUAL Storms/catastrophe far away in the system where Earth is.
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Nelenath
Minmatar Wild Road
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Posted - 2008.03.03 19:44:00 -
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Originally by: Magnum III And So what we are seeing is the ACTUAL brightness of the ACTUAL Storms/catastrophe far away in the system where Earth is.
It's possible - but then we still have to account for the fact that, as far as we can see, the Star became visible in every system in Eve at the same time. |
Kesper North
Caldari Epiphyte Mining and Exploration Combined Planetary Union
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Posted - 2008.03.03 19:52:00 -
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I recently travelled from Suroken out to the Great Wildlands region, and -- perhaps this is just an illusion, but it seems brighter in lowsec than in Empire space.
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Kytanos Termek
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Posted - 2008.03.03 20:23:00 -
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Originally by: Symon Kauliford I wonder if its a naked singularity? Not quite sure what properties one of those would have but it would be pretty damn weird to say the least. If an already existing black hole somehow managed to lose mass or gain spin would account for its sudden appearance as before then we wouldn't have seen anything cause it was black.
Just my random musings. Whatever it is it's gravimetric properties must be something odd as only gravity can cause light to travel at what appears to be different speeds in a vacuum.
A naked singularity. one without an event horizon....that is certainly odd indeed.
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FarScape III
Journey On Squad
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Posted - 2008.03.04 07:31:00 -
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Edited by: FarScape III on 04/03/2008 07:32:49
Originally by: Kesper North I recently travelled from Suroken out to the Great Wildlands region, and -- perhaps this is just an illusion, but it seems brighter in lowsec than in Empire space.
That's just because it is darker in low sec :), You know like when you go out of the city and the stars are brighter?
Oh yeah and that IS strange it was seen in all systems at once but some how I could imagine it being the destroid earth system.
OR maybe it is a srange type of energy that travels faster then light so it just SEEMS like it apeared in every system at once. *** |
Drachtul Tun'Dull
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Posted - 2008.03.04 14:23:00 -
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Edited by: Drachtul Tun''Dull on 04/03/2008 14:23:41 This points to the problem with the whole "Earth hypothesis." Although there probably was at some point an Earth that existed and might still exist, its myth holds such power over us that it, or the related Eve Gate, is trotted out to explain every mystery.
I personally think that the whole thing will be explained with a proper reading of the correct sacred texts by the Theology Council. It probably was foretold in some prophecy a thousand years ago and simply unrecognized since then.
You belong to the Earth Cult, I belong to the Amarrian faith. We will both look silly when we realize that it is nothing more than a graphic bug introduced by the CONCORD software used to track pods across the Cluster interacting with the drivers for our camera drones.
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Ilor Prophet
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Posted - 2008.03.04 18:19:00 -
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Except that people on planets and pilots who are not capsuleers have seen it. No, it's not a software glitch.
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Mordred Ottomo
Terran Resurrection
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Posted - 2008.03.04 19:11:00 -
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Edited by: Mordred Ottomo on 04/03/2008 19:12:56 I have heard alot of rumors but I think we can all agree that this phenomena can be filed under Requires More Study. Whether it is 'Elvis?' returning, a supernova, singularity, an Amarr prediction or some giant space Fedos flatulence, I think we need to approach this scientifically without the speculation and sensationalism. Perhaps the 4 empires and Concord should contact the Jove and send out expeditions.
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