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faxtarious
Kai-Zen inc.
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Posted - 2008.01.09 17:18:00 -
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someone posted earlier that the "event" section should be replaced by he "lotto room" and he's right !!
I mean...isn't this a fighting game...
I always knew alot of older people play this game,but christ !!! Back in 2004 i used to come here alot because there was always a mini gladiator style tournament, of a frig fight, or a get together for peopel from the same city. i remember some dude making an even wheere people would gather up to go camping or pirate hunting.
^^^That is more fun than LOTO...
those lazy geeks are soo fucused on making a quick cash by lottery (and I pitty the fools who participate) that they made this section as lame and unvisited as the "CCG Tournaments & Events"
this is sad guys... peace out
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Chani Fedaykin
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Posted - 2008.01.09 17:48:00 -
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i asked for some input on this idea ... which is no lotto, but still not a 'real' ingame tournament/event
feel free to comment on it :)
[Concept] EOn Psycho Challenge
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Jk Collector
Caldari Shadows of Valor Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.09 17:52:00 -
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Edited by: Jk Collector on 09/01/2008 17:54:46 Thank you for another opinion but quite honestly it shoudn't be changed to lotto room. People run the lotteries as like you said they can make isk out of it. People would join in other events and all but there are too many scams. People wont set up events as people only insult them and do not give them a decent chance so therefore they dont bother. Instead of insulting the people that play the lotteries perhaps you should create an event that people would join and make the most of the events forum. If you dont see much fighting going on look at an alliance and join in the up coming alliance tournaments. 2004 was a long time ago and now things have changed if your not happy well look for something else. Please do not complain here it is not an event so it should be in the general discussion at least.
Please look at Chani Fedaykin idea it would great if it went ahead and would add another feature here.
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faxtarious
Kai-Zen inc.
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Posted - 2008.01.09 18:08:00 -
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Originally by: Jk Collector Edited by: Jk Collector on 09/01/2008 17:54:46 Thank you for another opinion but quite honestly it shoudn't be changed to lotto room. People run the lotteries as like you said they can make isk out of it. People would join in other events and all but there are too many scams. People wont set up events as people only insult them and do not give them a decent chance so therefore they dont bother. Instead of insulting the people that play the lotteries perhaps you should create an event that people would join and make the most of the events forum. If you dont see much fighting going on look at an alliance and join in the up coming alliance tournaments. 2004 was a long time ago and now things have changed if your not happy well look for something else. Please do not complain here it is not an event so it should be in the general discussion at least.
Please look at Chani Fedaykin idea it would great if it went ahead and would add another feature here.
please try to understand...i wasn't "trying" to insult anyone. I was actually "trying" to give thema slap in the face for screwing up such a great section of the forum. I don,t have the men power, ressources nor time to set up an event, But i,m pretty sure the guy that has 200 mill to give away and makle just 30 mill out of it in "lotto game" can. This loto stuff been going on for 2 years now..and it's the same people that are in it...the same !!
This a combat game people always complain about CCP nerfing this and that...but talk about nerf batting a forum section
sorry if I don't see this lotto thing with the same enthusiasm as the other welfare toons that do it ...in "RL" hopping to catch a big break (with all due regards)
it might be lucrative for some (the ones making a profit out of it) but what does it have to do with EVE and what it is about..."war ; combat ; things going Boom"
bah..nvm...I'm juts ranting school started, and I'm bored in class right now
I'll have a number 5 please
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Alowishus
Pastry Coalition
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Posted - 2008.01.09 18:21:00 -
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Edited by: Alowishus on 09/01/2008 18:22:01 The Eve community is largely a group of judgmental, cynical, paranoid, intolerant salty internet nerds (myself included). It's hard to get anything off the ground. I'm not surprised an event forum has been relegated to something where the only people bold enough to post are the ones who think they can make ISK (once again, myself included).
I can think of a thousand different events people could have that I'd think were stupid. Personally I have a policy of not commenting much on what others do, because if I started to that'd be all I ever did. But apparently these forums are full of people with that sort of time. Who wants a hundred people jumping down their throats for posting a fun event?
Yesterday was the first day I came into this forum and I noticed the lottery threads and thought it sounded fun for the participants and an easy way to make ISK for the organizer. Though the appeal of it, at least in my case, makes me wonder if there are more people organizing the lottery events than participating in them. I have thick skin. I knew people would think my lottery was a scam. I don't know how to prove it isn't, really, other than to post more lotteries and hope that eventually I have enough winners that people realize they can't all be my alts.
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Jk Collector
Caldari Shadows of Valor Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.09 18:32:00 -
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Well eve is a hobby to me. Lotteries are just a way for people to get something going and as Alowishus said to get some isk. The man power doesnt need to be anything big I set up a nice event for about 2 hours and it was a success. The isk comes from my own wallet but hey thats what I'm doing and I try to make a small profit from it.
Eve is not a combat game it is a virtual life. There is not only combat but there are other aspects such as mining and exploration and trade. As it happens the events forum is another place for people to make isk. CCP nerfing stuff is them trying to make the game fairer but not working and people complaining just makes it worse.
Again the only way someone can "slap someone about doing lottos" is if they have tried to host and event themeselves and failed. Even if they have no or very little man power or isk. But isk is easy to earn.
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Miniturret
Amarr Rum Runners Inc
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Posted - 2008.01.10 05:08:00 -
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I tend not to post in these threads but I'll put my 2 isk in.
In reading a post in the GTC and Character Sale forum. They want to split the two because GTC are high turnover, low lifespan (most don't even last an hour or two) where as character sales are low turnover, high lifespan. (Meaning they last more than a day).
I see the same thing here. Actual in game events are low turnover, high lifespan. People plan them weeks even months in advance, where as a lotto is something which might last a few days tops while the tickets sell and then it's done and over with, time for a new thread.
Now how to fix the problem. Since most people post in the events and also in the sell forums, make em stay in one or the other. otherwise I have no real solution in mind.
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Vex Radkir
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Posted - 2008.01.10 05:56:00 -
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i think the lottos are cool and if you make a buck doing it, what the hell. one of the things that i love about this game is that if tonight i want to mission, i mission. tomorrow i want to sell crap on the market, that's what i do. maybe on saturday i get crazy and go to level .3 sec! i know, i'm a newbie :)
but that's what makes this game fun. and lottos are just something else to throw in this wonderful mix. the free ones are also awesome for us newbies (rock on CLOTO!). maybe sometime in the future i'll give a tournament a try.
be open and encourage others to get creative with this game. if they make money at it, well what the hell. everyone has different tastes. if you like to tournament, well then, tournament till you get blisters. i won't stop ya
Long Live the Lottos! ~ Vek
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Creepin
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Posted - 2008.01.13 16:21:00 -
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Edited by: Creepin on 13/01/2008 16:21:28
Originally by: Vex Radkir i think the lottos are cool ...
...be open and encourage others to get creative with this game. if they make money at it, well what the hell. everyone has different tastes. if you like to tournament, well then, tournament till you get blisters. i won't stop ya
You are welcome to do as much money as you could for all I care. But until you or anyone could tell just how in the world lottos are connected with eve game world events it's nothing but a vile pollution of a good sub-forum dedicated to what's interesting happening in eve world, not to anyone's attempts of rising some funds. Just what the hell - I want to see what's good, roleplayish or setting-important is going on in the (presumably) living eve world and all I could do is to hunt down scarce bits of information in a swamp of those stupid lottos...
If there's so much lotto supporters indeed, why not move it to a some other dedicated place instead of letting it further degenerate once-interesting "Events" part of forum, like it was done with moving char/GTC sells from WTS sub-forum?
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Troye
Gallente Strix Armaments and Defence
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Posted - 2008.01.14 04:56:00 -
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As I've said before I have nothing against lotterys but they don't belong in this section of the forums. It would be better for the lottery participants and their organisers if a seperate section was created soley for lotterys and in-game player events recieved more support by CCP and encouraged dialogue between CCP and RP event organisers via this forum.
Originally by: GM Nova What the hell???
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Ulcha Ghanis
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Posted - 2008.01.14 13:03:00 -
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id like to add... this is NOT a combat game.... it is a game which includes combat, it also includes trading industrial works, research and development a free market and lotteries, i run lotteries because i include 'n00b' players allowing newcommmers to perhaps gain some instant isk, a great boost to a new player. people that play my lotteries enjoy them, likewise, people that pvp enjoy that, people that roam eve simply exploring enjoy that. this is a game for just about any possibility.
Please stop stating its a combat game. look at the bigger picture.
And as was said, If a mod see's this, its in the wrong place i think, after all this is the events forum, and this is hardly a post about an upcomming event.
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Sheik Yirboudi
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Posted - 2008.01.14 14:25:00 -
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I would have to agree. My opinion on the matter is that since a lotto is basically a pool of chances, for which ISK usually trades hands, in order to acquire an item (whether it be a ship, a mod, an implant, or that dillweed "lotto'ing" off his Improved Cloaking Device).
As such, from the seller's perspective it is merely a way to get more ISK in aggregate for an item than he could on the market. And from the buyer's perspective, it's a chance to get an expensive item for a low(er) cost.
Having said all that, why does this not belong in the "Trades" section? Or the place where people conduct auctions? You have to admit lotto's are structured pretty much like auctions.
Please return this forum to actual, in-game events.
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Ulcha Ghanis
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Posted - 2008.01.14 16:48:00 -
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Originally by: Sheik Yirboudi
Having said all that, why does this not belong in the "Trades" section? Or the place where people conduct auctions? You have to admit lotto's are structured pretty much like auctions.
An interesting point, being that i essentiall hold my lotteries for fun and wanted to get things moving as best i could i simply followed the crowd, I saw that this was where lotteries were posted and thought that i'd follow trend. But yes, your point stands, it is essentially a trade of sorts.
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