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EliteSlave Minmatar Tau Ceti Global Production SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.10 15:27:00 - [1] Lets say im mining in a belt, and you come flip my can, and i aggro you and pop your ship and then i point / web your pod, and keep you their, would you consider this to be griefing? or just a use of gameplay mechanics?

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2008.01.10 15:28:00 - [2] Assuming we're talking about high-sec here since flipping cans in low-sec well seems pretty unneeded (minded the sec hit) you cannot web/scramble the pod or mighty forces starting on C will arrive and ensure your web/scramble is broken. Secure 3rd party service ■ the Love project

Jovoich Towers Inc.	Posted - 2008.01.10 15:31:00 - [3] Yes you can scram and web the pod, and no concord wont kill you. But it isnt allowed. P.s. This is why i sent my petition about podding in empire.
Fortune Mitford Endure Eternal DeStInY.	Posted - 2008.01.10 15:35:00 - [4] Originally by: EliteSlave Lets say im mining in a belt, and you come flip my can, and i aggro you and pop your ship and then i point / web your pod, and keep you their, would you consider this to be griefing? or just a use of gameplay mechanics? "Yes you can scram and web the pod, and no concord wont kill you. But it isnt allowed." Note the you... course you can they stole from you no reason why they shouldn't pay Inch by inch play by play till we're finished. We are in hell right now, gentlemen
Muscaat Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2008.01.10 15:35:00 - [5] My personal opinion: if I flip your can, I would consider it right and proper that you retaliate with the maximum amount of force you can be bothered with, including pinning my pod there. Criminals deserve punishment Don't know what CONCORD think, though...
nether void Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.01.10 15:46:00 - [6] This is like the people that rob your house, but sue you cause they tripped over a toy in the hallway and broke their ankle. I wouldn't call it griefing; I'd call it justice and your moral obligation. This game should be harsh for innocents, and brutal for aggressors. Unfortunately in most cases those roles are reversed. --------------------------- nethervoid - since '97 [UO\|EQ\|SB\|SWG\|PS\|EVE\|HZ\|NWN\|VG\|WoW]
Kirjava Lothian Quay Industries Zzz	Posted - 2008.01.10 15:49:00 - [7] Would I be allowed to hold the pod, log an alt in then suicide the pod with my alt? Is this an exploit or a variation of the Lofty manouver? ~Nyron Originally by: Minerva Vulcan But poor victimized Ulf...I weep lavender scented tears for you.
nether void Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.01.10 15:56:00 - [8] Originally by: Kirjava Would I be allowed to hold the pod, log an alt in then suicide the pod with my alt? Is this an exploit or a variation of the Lofty manouver? If you have two accounts, I don't see how that would be wrong. Just like a pirate tackling a victim until their friends arrive. I have no idea though if it is officially wrong. --------------------------- nethervoid - since '97 [UO\|EQ\|SB\|SWG\|PS\|EVE\|HZ\|NWN\|VG\|WoW]
EliteSlave Minmatar Tau Ceti Global Production SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.10 15:57:00 - [9] I do this all the time with my alt, but im jus wondering if one day i do it to the ***hat that puts a petition under griefing him.
PhantomVyper Darkness Inc. Blood Blind	Posted - 2008.01.10 15:57:00 - [10] Edited by: PhantomVyper on 10/01/2008 15:57:05 Originally by: Jovoich Yes you can scram and web the pod, and no concord wont kill you. But it isnt allowed. P.s. This is why i sent my petition about podding in empire. Are you sure about this? I was always under the impression that any aggro against a non-outlaw pod in safe-sec = death by Concordokken!

EliteSlave Minmatar Tau Ceti Global Production SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.10 16:00:00 - [11] Originally by: PhantomVyper Edited by: PhantomVyper on 10/01/2008 15:57:05 Originally by: Jovoich Yes you can scram and web the pod, and no concord wont kill you. But it isnt allowed. P.s. This is why i sent my petition about podding in empire. Are you sure about this? I was always under the impression that any aggro against a non-outlaw pod in safe-sec = death by Concordokken! Technically speaking yes, but once u flip the can and are aggressed, u become an "outlaw" in a pod
Adonis 4174	Posted - 2008.01.10 16:02:00 - [12] Originally by: EliteSlave Originally by: PhantomVyper Edited by: PhantomVyper on 10/01/2008 15:57:05 Originally by: Jovoich Yes you can scram and web the pod, and no concord wont kill you. But it isnt allowed. P.s. This is why i sent my petition about podding in empire. Are you sure about this? I was always under the impression that any aggro against a non-outlaw pod in safe-sec = death by Concordokken! Technically speaking yes, but once u flip the can and are aggressed, u become an "outlaw" in a pod What happens when the kill rights expire? ---- Anything less is wasted effort
Amateratsu Caldari Terra Incognita Dark Matter Coalition	Posted - 2008.01.10 16:04:00 - [13] You are not allowed to attack a pod in high sec unless you are in a war with the target... or if the target is an outlaw (flashy red) Originally by: CCP Navigator Just a little clarification: You can pod someone in high security if you have a CONCORD sanctioned war, however, you cannot pod a player for can flipping. CONCORD will retaliate in this instance
Kalazar Amarr Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.01.10 16:06:00 - [14] Originally by: Adonis 4174 Originally by: EliteSlave Originally by: PhantomVyper Edited by: PhantomVyper on 10/01/2008 15:57:05 Originally by: Jovoich Yes you can scram and web the pod, and no concord wont kill you. But it isnt allowed. P.s. This is why i sent my petition about podding in empire. Are you sure about this? I was always under the impression that any aggro against a non-outlaw pod in safe-sec = death by Concordokken! Technically speaking yes, but once u flip the can and are aggressed, u become an "outlaw" in a pod What happens when the kill rights expire? They won't if you take advantage of the fact you now have a flashy red person in a pod sitting 2k from you webbed and pointed. The aggression timer keeps resetting, and you can go away for hours if you want, leaving them to sit there and ponder life, the universe and everything. ----------------------------------------------
nether void Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.01.10 16:08:00 - [15] Originally by: Kalazar Originally by: Adonis 4174 Originally by: EliteSlave Originally by: PhantomVyper Edited by: PhantomVyper on 10/01/2008 15:57:05 Originally by: Jovoich Yes you can scram and web the pod, and no concord wont kill you. But it isnt allowed. P.s. This is why i sent my petition about podding in empire. Are you sure about this? I was always under the impression that any aggro against a non-outlaw pod in safe-sec = death by Concordokken! Technically speaking yes, but once u flip the can and are aggressed, u become an "outlaw" in a pod What happens when the kill rights expire? They won't if you take advantage of the fact you now have a flashy red person in a pod sitting 2k from you webbed and pointed. The aggression timer keeps resetting, and you can go away for hours if you want, leaving them to sit there and ponder life, the universe and everything. Can't they just log out? Wait 10. Log back in? I think the point of 'tackling' them is to hold them for the pod kill, or did I misread the original question? --------------------------- nethervoid - since '97 [UO\|EQ\|SB\|SWG\|PS\|EVE\|HZ\|NWN\|VG\|WoW]
Frug Zenithal Harvest	Posted - 2008.01.10 16:50:00 - [16] Right click > self destruct problem solved. - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Hey, my marbles
Hannobaal Gallente Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2008.01.10 17:04:00 - [17] Originally by: nether void Originally by: Kalazar Originally by: Adonis 4174 Originally by: EliteSlave Originally by: PhantomVyper Edited by: PhantomVyper on 10/01/2008 15:57:05 Originally by: Jovoich Yes you can scram and web the pod, and no concord wont kill you. But it isnt allowed. P.s. This is why i sent my petition about podding in empire. Are you sure about this? I was always under the impression that any aggro against a non-outlaw pod in safe-sec = death by Concordokken! Technically speaking yes, but once u flip the can and are aggressed, u become an "outlaw" in a pod What happens when the kill rights expire? They won't if you take advantage of the fact you now have a flashy red person in a pod sitting 2k from you webbed and pointed. The aggression timer keeps resetting, and you can go away for hours if you want, leaving them to sit there and ponder life, the universe and everything. Can't they just log out? Wait 10. Log back in? I think the point of 'tackling' them is to hold them for the pod kill, or did I misread the original question? They won't go anywhere for 15 minutes if they log out while scrambled. But after 15 minutes, they just disappear.
Xaen Caldari Black Podding	Posted - 2008.01.10 17:08:00 - [18] I love how most of the posters missed the point completely. I dunno if it's considered griefing under the EULA/ToS or not, but holding a pod in place without popping it indefinitely is hilarious, and I approve. -- Support fixing the EVE UI \| Suggest Jita fixes
Kuar Z'thain Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.10 17:10:00 - [19] Originally by: Xaen I love how most of the posters missed the point completely. I dunno if it's considered griefing under the EULA/ToS or not, but holding a pod in place without popping it indefinitely is hilarious, and I approve. What does the EULA/ToS have to do with griefing?
Kilabi Minmatar Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.01.10 17:19:00 - [20] Edited by: Kilabi on 10/01/2008 17:19:55 You may not do it when it is considered griefing. Originally by: "EULA A grief player, or "griefer," is a player who devotes much of his time to making othersÆ lives miserable, in a large part deriving his enjoyment of the game from these activities while he does not profit from it in any way. Grief tactics are the mechanics a griefer will utilize to antagonize other players. This should not be confused with standard conflict that might arise between two players. At our discretion, players who are found to be consistently maliciously interfering with the game experience for others may receive a warning, temporary suspension or permanent banning of his account. An example of grief play would be the so called "Can baiting" in starter systems. An experienced player drops a cargo container with some items in front of a station in a starter system and waits for a new player to take from it. The new player is flagged and promptly attacked and killed by the owner of the container. Doing the same in starter tutorial complexes is also considered grief play and will not be tolerated. If you do it to a ore thief you can say you do it for your own security because he can come back in a better ship to kill you = no griefing only selfdefence in my eyes. But if you just do it to **** with him = griefing. Subjectiv decision by a GM probablly Edit Linkage VETO. RADIO now online. Join IG-Channel "VETO. RADIO" now for more info and a bit of fun with DJ Cown

Cpt Fina Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2008.01.10 17:22:00 - [21] Originally by: nether void This is like the people that rob your house, but sue you cause they tripped over a toy in the hallway and broke their ankle. I wouldn't call it griefing; I'd call it justice and your moral obligation. This game should be harsh for innocents, and brutal for aggressors. Unfortunately in most cases those roles are reversed. So some people should have the right to use currently unsactioned gamemechanics against players who have chosen to play an allowed and by CCP advertised careerpath because you don't condone their way of playing? By that logic I should be allowed to, lets say make deaththreats to people who play in a way that I dont like, right?
Kuar Z'thain Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.10 17:23:00 - [22] Can you link the EULA section for me, this is all news to me...
EliteSlave Minmatar Tau Ceti Global Production SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.10 17:25:00 - [23] hopefully we can get an official response to this ;)
Kilabi Minmatar Veto Corp	Posted - 2008.01.10 17:25:00 - [24] EULA and Stuff VETO. RADIO now online. Join IG-Channel "VETO. RADIO" now for more info and a bit of fun with DJ Cown
Crumplecorn Gallente Eve Cluster Explorations	Posted - 2008.01.10 17:27:00 - [25] Nothing this lulzy can be wrong. - DesuSigs
EliteSlave Minmatar Tau Ceti Global Production SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.10 17:30:00 - [26] Originally by: Crumplecorn Nothing this lulzy can be wrong. I feel honored that Crump posted in my thread.... tear
Melor Rend	Posted - 2008.01.10 17:31:00 - [27] I don't think it's griefing (though I don't think anything in EVE is griefing... anything possible without circumventing game mechanics should be allowed or the game mechanics changed).
Xaen Caldari Black Podding	Posted - 2008.01.10 17:31:00 - [28] Originally by: Kuar Z'thain Originally by: Xaen I love how most of the posters missed the point completely. I dunno if it's considered griefing under the EULA/ToS or not, but holding a pod in place without popping it indefinitely is hilarious, and I approve. What does the EULA/ToS have to do with griefing? Stop trolling. -- Support fixing the EVE UI \| Suggest Jita fixes
Kuar Z'thain Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2008.01.10 17:35:00 - [29] Originally by: Xaen Originally by: Kuar Z'thain Originally by: Xaen I love how most of the posters missed the point completely. I dunno if it's considered griefing under the EULA/ToS or not, but holding a pod in place without popping it indefinitely is hilarious, and I approve. What does the EULA/ToS have to do with griefing? Stop trolling. Hey buddy, just looking for some enlightenment. Thanks for posting the EULA/ToS in the other thread.
benzss The Highwayman Union	Posted - 2008.01.10 17:39:00 - [30] While it may be griefing, it's tit-for-tat. And very funny. Gogogogo.



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