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Mashie Saldana
Hooligans Of War
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Posted - 2010.01.14 16:32:00 -
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I have a feeling it didn't work out as intended.
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Silver Tongues
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Posted - 2010.01.14 16:54:00 -
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Originally by: Sazumaan Johnza CCP you do realise that we will continue to necro this thread until we have an update on HPC, yeah? ;)
Since you necro'd this thread in response to my thread, I'll ask my question here. Is the HPC and/or Infiniband a cloud computing type of cluster? Where precious CPU cycles/memory can be used from several blades or stacks to dynamically reinforce nodes in real-time for massive influx of ships (big fleet fights, or Jita population)?
Also, CCP we would really like to hear from you about this. Whether it's an ongoing project, it's been paused for other things, or canceled outright. I believe the playerbase deserves to know because it was hyped so much at the end of 2008 and you've just left us hanging.
If it's financial reasons then I guess I understand. If you upgraded TQ then you'd have to upgrade Serenity too which wouldn't exactly be that cheap. Plus you have two other known games in development (World of Darkness, Dust 514) and you're working on Dominion 1.1, probably also have development on your next two expansions.
But at least let us know what your plans are for HPC/Infiniband. It would be nice to know if we should keep holding onto our dreams of seamless fleet battles and an even larger Jita, or if we should just let it go and try to live with what we have now.
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Hawk TT
Caldari Bulgarian Experienced Crackers Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.02.13 04:30:00 -
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Hey CCP, your last update regarding the HPC project is quite old.
Why don't you disclose some info, no matter if it is positive or negative...
I hope you are not wating for M$ to release HPC 2008 R2...or HPC 2012 ;-) ___________________________________ Science & Diplomacy Manager @ BECKS Circle-of-Two |
Callista Sincera
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.02.13 05:24:00 -
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Interesting. Let's play collective curious campers in here.... - In simplistic terms it has been said that there is enough Zero Point Energy in the volume the size of a coffee cup to boil away EarthÆs oceans. |
Hawk TT
Caldari Bulgarian Experienced Crackers Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.02.13 18:53:00 -
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Edited by: Hawk TT on 13/02/2010 18:54:40 I would love to, but I guess CCP will remain tight-lipped...
I've also checked CCP's presentations planned for GDC 2010 in San Francisco - apart from some Incarna / DUST 514 related stuff, nothing really tech-oriented...Some Agile development, some virtual economics stuff, some meta-gaming espionage stories...
What about the long-term war against LAG? HPC / Infiniband is only a small part of the story. The Stackless Python and it's Global Interpeter Lock is the real problem. Back in the 2001/2002 it surely seemed like a great idea, but those days Intel has been promisning 10GHz+ CPUs...Now the reality is different - more cores, more threads, even GPGPUs with thousands of cores...same core speeds. A massively multiplayer universe requires massively parallel processing, not just fast, low-latency interconnects, but the code base is on Python...
CCP, c'mon!
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Doc Fury
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Posted - 2010.02.13 20:23:00 -
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It's been a couple years since I said it, so I'll say it again.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=866660&page=2#41
Originally by: Doc Fury I believe all this "infiniband upgrade" stuff is still up on a whiteboard because CCP is far too distracted by other things. You would think CCP would be eager to boast about improvements or at least be able to claim they have reached some milestones in regard to the project unless of course, there aren't any.
If CCP is still looking to Microsoft for leadership and assistance for their supercomputing and DB engine tech, We'll have cheap Quantum computing available before they get Infiniband going in any meaningful fashion.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'no.' |
Le Skunk
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2010.02.13 21:17:00 -
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Give it up people. Stop hassling CCP.
Its "Their" game and you dont mean nothing. Play what they have given you - or quit
SKUNK (o)
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Hawk TT
Caldari Bulgarian Experienced Crackers Circle-Of-Two
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Posted - 2010.02.14 10:37:00 -
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Believe me, CCP really wants to make the EVE universe more scalable! With the current architecture and technology behind EVE, they really can't grow the customer base as fast as they want. And that's hurting their bottom line...
I don't blame CCP for not fixing the lag, because I understand how difficult this is (having an idea about the architecture of EVE and the technological challnages etc.).
I blame them for not sharing updates about the long-term plans for fixing the lag.
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Boomershoot
Caldari Suddenly Ninjas
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Posted - 2010.02.14 11:41:00 -
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Updates CCP, We require them!
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Callista Sincera
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.02.14 13:14:00 -
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Originally by: Hawk TT I blame them for not sharing updates about the long-term plans for fixing the lag.
Well, I wouldn't really put it like that, but I'm curious nonetheless. - In simplistic terms it has been said that there is enough Zero Point Energy in the volume the size of a coffee cup to boil away EarthÆs oceans. |
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Tipz NexAstrum
Celestial Horizon Corp. United Corporate Ventures
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Posted - 2010.02.21 22:57:00 -
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Originally by: Sazumaan Johnza CCP you do realise that we will continue to necro this thread until we have an update on HPC, yeah? ;)
The Dev posting in this thread quit CCP, I wouldn't hold your breath. I recommend getting CCP Valar drunk at fanfest, I hear he's a cheap date...
Originally by: CCP Navigator People who think I am joking or talking big are going to understand very quickly that there will be order in these forums.
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Mashie Saldana
Red Federation
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Posted - 2010.02.22 01:28:00 -
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Originally by: Tipz NexAstrum
Originally by: Sazumaan Johnza CCP you do realise that we will continue to necro this thread until we have an update on HPC, yeah? ;)
The Dev posting in this thread quit CCP, I wouldn't hold your breath. I recommend getting CCP Valar drunk at fanfest, I hear he's a cheap date...
It's two devs who has posted in this thread, Lingorm and Mindstar. I guess you are referring to Lingorm.
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Harrent
Caldari Libertas Fidelitas
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Posted - 2010.03.05 12:18:00 -
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Due to a recent pwn primarily by solarsystem lag and NOT player forces, id like to also petition CCP for an update on this.
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The Ratfink
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Posted - 2010.03.05 13:01:00 -
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yay 4 elastic bands!
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Chrondar TheGreat
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Posted - 2010.03.05 16:38:00 -
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every advert on youtube, every publication, every news report only adds more sand to the gearbox.
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.03.06 06:07:00 -
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Prediction: CCP wants infiniband. Players want infiniband. Fleet fights reallly want infiniband. CCP refuses to comment further on this thread. CCP is filthy rich even if iceland overall is not getting on that well. We get infiniband with incarna. Prove me wrong.
Originally by: CCP Shadow Troll thread detected and locked.
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Callista Sincera
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.03.06 10:37:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba We get infiniband with incarna. Prove me wrong.
Now what do we have here, an optimist! Now that's a rare find... - In simplistic terms it has been said that there is enough Zero Point Energy in the volume the size of a coffee cup to boil away EarthÆs oceans. |
Alex V0X2
Minmatar
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Posted - 2010.03.06 16:07:00 -
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Guys, really, we don't even have a SoonÖ now, so expect it to come by 2030.
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Taedrin
Gallente The Green Cross DEFI4NT
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Posted - 2010.03.06 20:12:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba Prove me wrong.
Sadly, this is a rhetorical fallacy ----------
Originally by: Dr Fighter "how do you know when youve had a repro accident"
Theres modules missing and morphite in your mineral pile.
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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2010.03.23 04:02:00 -
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/giddyup horsy
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Zeba
Minmatar Honourable East India Trading Company
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Posted - 2010.03.23 04:08:00 -
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moar like /deadhorsy
Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Get off the forums and go kill someone!
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No La
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2010.03.24 09:33:00 -
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HeliosGal
Caldari
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Posted - 2010.03.24 10:41:00 -
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small update would be nice with regardsd to new cloud technology ccp is using are there any further plans on the technology front Signature - CCP what this game needs is more variance in PVE aspects and a little bit less PVP focus, more content more varied level 1-4 missions more than just 10 per faction high sec low sec and 00 |
Samantha IX
Amarr
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Posted - 2010.03.27 15:41:00 -
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Originally by: Doc Fury If CCP is still looking to Microsoft for leadership and assistance for their supercomputing and DB engine tech, We'll have cheap Quantum computing available before they get Infiniband going in any meaningful fashion.
QFT
There are several solution out there - but not one of them has the name Microsoft attached to it.
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Nareg Maxence
Gallente JotunHeim Hird
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Posted - 2010.03.27 19:08:00 -
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Maybe it is time to reiterate that Infiniband wouldn't help with current fleet lag, as it isn't node to node communication that is a bottleneck.
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Aera Aiana
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Posted - 2010.03.27 19:13:00 -
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Originally by: Nareg Maxence Maybe it is time to reiterate that Infiniband wouldn't help with current fleet lag, as it isn't node to node communication that is a bottleneck.
If I'm not mistaken, the whole point is to spread the load of one node to multiple ones or at least dynamically assign a stronger node to a large fleet battle, so yes, it should help but of course it won't fix the cause of the lag, just mitigate it.
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Nareg Maxence
Gallente JotunHeim Hird
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Posted - 2010.03.27 19:28:00 -
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Originally by: Aera Aiana
Originally by: Nareg Maxence Maybe it is time to reiterate that Infiniband wouldn't help with current fleet lag, as it isn't node to node communication that is a bottleneck.
If I'm not mistaken, the whole point is to spread the load of one node to multiple ones or at least dynamically assign a stronger node to a large fleet battle, so yes, it should help but of course it won't fix the cause of the lag, just mitigate it.
Not really. Even reinforced nodes have problems handling fleet fight lag, and I am not just talking post-Dominion here. The core issue is that the simulation is single threaded and when there is a lot going on, it quickly becomes too much for a single core to compute. A reinforced node might be able to take 25-50% more ships fighting, but that doesn't help a lot if twice as many ships try to enter.
In order to scale more linearly, you would need to multithread the space simulation. Unfortunately this mindboglingly difficult.
For example since the simulation runs concurrently on the client and server, you probably want to ensure that no desync issues occur, so you must guarantee that the simulation provides the same result no matter how many cores you run it on. Then there is the whole issue with how to distribute the simulation across multiple cores, a rather large can of worms in itself. And so on, and so on.
It is just not a matter of yanking out a networking card and putting in a bigger one.
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Berenices Herculina
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2010.03.27 19:30:00 -
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The amount of internet wisdom in this thread is amazing.
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Nareg Maxence
Gallente JotunHeim Hird
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Posted - 2010.03.27 20:03:00 -
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Originally by: Berenices Herculina The amount of internet wisdom in this thread is amazing.
Desync devblog: http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=694
The stuck on jump bug. Nice story about issues when syncing between to clients. http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=668
CCP Mindstar explains the clusterlayout. http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=589
StacklessIO blog. http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=584
64bit EVE. http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=588
Also, if you go back and watch some of the old old fanfest videos there is excellent stuff about the subject as well.
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Sazumaan Johnza
Minmatar ANZAC ALLIANCE IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.05.26 20:23:00 -
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I am the necro master, this thread shall not die until Infiniband lives!
Does anyone have any updates? ;) |
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