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Gaia Thorn
Villains
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Posted - 2008.01.17 12:54:00 -
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Edited by: Gaia Thorn on 17/01/2008 12:58:00
Hi well been browsing this forum for awhile now and cant seem to find any specific thread about suicide gank setups. So was thinking it might be time to collect a diffrent kind of setups and see what damage one can inflict to badgers, transports, shuttles and freighters.
What im looking for is what ship size and fittings aswell as what sec the system you are in to have enough time
Im gonna define it through 2 diffrent catagories.
-----[ Solo ] ------- Iteron Mk1 / BC T1 fitted / 0.5 - 0.9 systems
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NateX
THE LEGION OF STEEL WARRIORS.... R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.01.17 12:58:00 -
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/Jedi mind trick There is no suicide ganking |
Gaia Thorn
Villains
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Posted - 2008.01.17 12:59:00 -
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Originally by: NateX /Jedi mind trick There is no suicide ganking
What was i talking about ??
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arbalesttom
Caldari Glauxian Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.17 13:01:00 -
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Dont expect *too much* replies on this kind of stuff since people hate suicidegankers... Nice hamster! - Mindstar Thanks! We wont touch this sig! - Cortes I lied - Cortes LIAR! |
Gaia Thorn
Villains
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Posted - 2008.01.17 13:03:00 -
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Hehehe that part i understand, but hey it is still a valid tactic though.
Well the more i get done the more im gonna be fillin this post with.
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Gartel Reiman
Project F3
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Posted - 2008.01.17 13:16:00 -
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You might want to ask in Crime and Punishment, the folks there would probably be more... understanding, and to my mind it's still a valid forum to ask this question in.
For my money... well, a stealth bomber has an amazing alpha for the size, and if it was a very high sec system you wouldn't have to worry about getting off a second volley so could just fit the cheapest cruiser launchers available. Also, use faction ammo as you're firing so few rounds that it barely makes any difference. A Purifier and a Hound working together can fairly easily reach 2000 EM damage followed by 2000 Explosive damage, and if you have time to get off a second volley, you can double that.
The bad thing about stealth bombers is that you can't insure them for any reasonable amount, so while pretty spectacular, they're probably not that practical. Best bet would be a T1 cruiser if you're looking to pop indys. Just choose your race's gank cruiser, and fill the highs with weapons and the lows with damage mods. Again, faction ammo will probably be worthwhile as the percentage cost it will add should be very low.
If you're looking to suicide gank a freighter... you'll need battleships, lots of battleships. Somewhere around 20-30 maybe? There was a good thread in C&P on this a few months back...
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Sismar
Minmatar Vagabundos
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Posted - 2008.01.17 19:04:00 -
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Stealth Bombers for frigs and shuttles :)
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Honeyz
Minmatar
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Posted - 2008.01.17 19:05:00 -
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Yep C&P is your best bet. I know some people that use destroyers of mining ops they get a paxk of destroyers and fill the lows with damage mods, they dont last long but there cheap and depending on what your going after successfull.
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Helen
Eve Innovative Technologies
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Posted - 2008.01.17 19:42:00 -
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Stealth Bomber for those shuttle/untanked frigs carrying silly amounts of valuable gear. Brutix/Hurricane for taking down 99% of haulers. 2 BC can take transports out. 12 BS can easily kill a Freighter in high sec.
Brutix (my fav for suicide ganks) cheap to fit and buy good dmg too.
7 x Neutron blasters. Web/Sensor booster/Ship scanner/Cargo scanner 5 x mag stabs. Don't forget drones!
Basically wait for afking haulers on autopilot to arrive at gate scan determine value, then web and apply blaster death.
Requires knowledge of market so you can work out fast if the hit is worth it or not. Solid ship thats cheap to fit out and does whats required, in a pack of two Brutix working together you can take down nearly all T2 transports that are afk.
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Sorted
Low Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2008.01.17 19:48:00 -
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Stealth bombers for frigs and shuttles.
for T2 Frigs (Covops etc) and Haulers 0.5 System & Brutix Neutrons Scram, Double Webber and SB (Or single web and Scanner) DCU Mag Stab and Bulkheads
OR Brutix ions Scram Web TP SB (Or no TP and Scanner) 800m plate, DCU, EANM, Mag stabs
Drones on either use Valks/Valk2s
The above is providing your hitting AFK targets and hopefully you have a passive scanner a jump ahead.
If you plan on hitting active (non AFK pilots) its more complicated.
The above are cheap setups - could use a BS for hitting Transports or multi BC. Or sit the Stealth bomber on the same gate as the BC as if the bomber gets a target and fires it doesnt generate a concord responce (as the sentry guns kill it b4 concord arrive). So its handy for extra DPS if something goes wrong.
Dont forget the nano transport to scoop your loot before someone else does.
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Rawr Cristina
Caldari Cult of Rawr
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Posted - 2008.01.20 11:22:00 -
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What Helen said
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Lorz0r
You're Doing It Wrong
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Posted - 2008.01.20 11:27:00 -
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yeah helen pretty much summed it up...
i nornally ran with a brutix but i've tried alsorts (hurricanes, caracals, thorax's) and brutix is definately the best for low skills but if you're gonna invest a little bit of time in the char then a hurricane is also quite good but more expensive as well
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FuzzBuzz
Caldari North Face Force
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Posted - 2008.01.20 14:05:00 -
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This worked quite well. Tried it against transporters, failed :) but at 3-4m cost and 0.5% sec loss for the try it isnt much of a deal.
linkage
----- In this game, what becomes popular becomes overpowered, what becomes overpowered gets nerfed. NEXT! endless cycle. |
Stakhanov
Metafarmers
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Posted - 2008.01.20 14:19:00 -
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Stealth bomber is terribly expensive , a neutron catalyst probably has more dps - better choice unless you can get 2 cruise volleys. Which won't be too easy if you're using T1 launchers. Much easier to train for , but you may need several of them to kill stronger haulers - several friends willing to sacrifice a bit of sec status.
Originally by: ivan draco we didnt want your post anyway
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