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Lord Zim
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
614
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Posted - 2012.02.28 14:26:00 -
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The concept of WiS was good. The current implementation and direction was ****, and I seem to remember something being said about how there was a huge difference from what CCP said to the CSM, and what CCP delivered, which would account for the 180 degree change in attitude. |
The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5488
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Posted - 2012.02.28 21:07:00 -
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Ka P'lah wrote: Well, The (...Can I call you The? It's a bit informal, I know, but I'm afraid I'm not entirely comfortable using something like "Grand Space Leader of Leaders"...good thing yer such an accommodating kind of guy, thanks... ), you're smart, effective, good at organizing, and good at the social / networking aspects. Credit where credit is due. (but ya don't suffer from low self esteem, do ya? ;D ) I think you're well aware that many players in EVE might be a little wary of you, hoping you use your powers for good, as it were.
I'd like to think you are smart enough to see that a healthy future eve means more fun for all, however we play, as we are all - sorry if it causes trauma for anyone, just kinda those pesky fact things - dependent on each other overall in making this the big sandbox we all enjoy.
So, allow me to quote myself from another thread: "'I'm pretty amazed at how so many EVE players - very much including most of the CSM candidates - freak out at the mention of WiS / ambulation. Folks...it's coming...can't you see the future direction of EVE? Dust 514 will be a success, I think (whatever might happen with it's initial success, I doubt the concept of the Eve tie-in is going away [but I kind of think dust might do ok...]), and more and more tie-ins moving in the direction of avatars walking / driving / skimming / shooting around are going to be part of EVE. The incarna thing was messed up...do you really want that kind of disaster again? Ignoring ambulation and treating the idea with utter contempt risks CCP not developing the game with player input in this critical area. The spaceships-first positive focus CCP has realized is their good core game is always going to remain the way it is as CCP has more success and starts making more money with avatar-enhancing game additions? Dismissing WiS / ambulation with a sneer as whiny ridiculous spacepantsbarbiefluff rather than recognizing that it's gonna happen and needs to be done right with the proper focus on spaceship game-first is shortsighted and dangerous to a healthy future EVE."
Seems that far from going away if we ignore it, the issue with the WiS / ambulation thing is something the CSM will face ongoing. I just hope the CSM doesn't let the disgust generated for all by the incarna disaster blind them to trying to get CCP to do it right (meaning don't sacrifice FiS to do it, don't make it an either-or thing CCP, do both), since it's coming in some form, bad or good eventually... So I'm trusting you're smart enough to see what's coming, The, and what it could mean to our game (including, of course the hunting for your associates and every other activity of those you consider your constituents...and the rest of course :) ). So, if you're gonna be the CSM guy - you got this?
Just call me Mittens, it's a lot easier.
I actually supported Incarna as it was initially presented in the design stages. It seemed like a necessary evolution. I didn't expect it to be so utterly botched, that botch timed with the disastrous planning failure of the NeX store, set video cards on fire, and have no follow-up establishment gameplay after literally years of work.
Most of us see Incarna as a symbol of the worst sort of Icelandic Kool-Aid, and while we suspect it will eventually be developed, it should only be developed after badly-needed resources which were wasted on Incarna's failures go to patching the holes in the actual game we play. You know, the one about spaceships.
If you really need an ~ambulation fix~, you can always go make yourself a space-themed zone in Second Life and do whatever it is people over there do. The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |
Reaver Glitterstim
Dromedaworks inc
35
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Posted - 2012.02.29 06:14:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:holy crap you guys spent the last three pages arguing about 'if i sling mud' and having non-lawyers trying to parse legal phrases
i sling mud, i scam supercaps, and i'm a sadist, this isn't new or particularly interesting
I'll agree it isn't new, but I do think it is particularly interesting. I support The Mittani for CSM 7 for the whole of EVE, including mining. |
Whiskey Juvenile
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
26
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Posted - 2012.02.29 07:11:00 -
[844] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:Ka P'lah wrote: Well, The (...Can I call you The? It's a bit informal, I know, but I'm afraid I'm not entirely comfortable using something like "Grand Space Leader of Leaders"...good thing yer such an accommodating kind of guy, thanks... ), you're smart, effective, good at organizing, and good at the social / networking aspects. Credit where credit is due. (but ya don't suffer from low self esteem, do ya? ;D ) I think you're well aware that many players in EVE might be a little wary of you, hoping you use your powers for good, as it were.
I'd like to think you are smart enough to see that a healthy future eve means more fun for all, however we play, as we are all - sorry if it causes trauma for anyone, just kinda those pesky fact things - dependent on each other overall in making this the big sandbox we all enjoy.
So, allow me to quote myself from another thread: "'I'm pretty amazed at how so many EVE players - very much including most of the CSM candidates - freak out at the mention of WiS / ambulation. Folks...it's coming...can't you see the future direction of EVE? Dust 514 will be a success, I think (whatever might happen with it's initial success, I doubt the concept of the Eve tie-in is going away [but I kind of think dust might do ok...]), and more and more tie-ins moving in the direction of avatars walking / driving / skimming / shooting around are going to be part of EVE. The incarna thing was messed up...do you really want that kind of disaster again? Ignoring ambulation and treating the idea with utter contempt risks CCP not developing the game with player input in this critical area. The spaceships-first positive focus CCP has realized is their good core game is always going to remain the way it is as CCP has more success and starts making more money with avatar-enhancing game additions? Dismissing WiS / ambulation with a sneer as whiny ridiculous spacepantsbarbiefluff rather than recognizing that it's gonna happen and needs to be done right with the proper focus on spaceship game-first is shortsighted and dangerous to a healthy future EVE."
Seems that far from going away if we ignore it, the issue with the WiS / ambulation thing is something the CSM will face ongoing. I just hope the CSM doesn't let the disgust generated for all by the incarna disaster blind them to trying to get CCP to do it right (meaning don't sacrifice FiS to do it, don't make it an either-or thing CCP, do both), since it's coming in some form, bad or good eventually... So I'm trusting you're smart enough to see what's coming, The, and what it could mean to our game (including, of course the hunting for your associates and every other activity of those you consider your constituents...and the rest of course :) ). So, if you're gonna be the CSM guy - you got this?
Just call me Mittens, it's a lot easier. I actually supported Incarna as it was initially presented in the design stages. It seemed like a necessary evolution. I didn't expect it to be so utterly botched, that botch timed with the disastrous planning failure of the NeX store, set video cards on fire, and have no follow-up establishment gameplay after literally years of work. Most of us see Incarna as a symbol of the worst sort of Icelandic Kool-Aid, and while we suspect it will eventually be developed, it should only be developed after badly-needed resources which were wasted on Incarna's failures go to patching the holes in the actual game we play. You know, the one about spaceships. If you really need an ~ambulation fix~, you can always go make yourself a space-themed zone in Second Life and do whatever it is people over there do.
When you get into the mindset of calling what we were presented for WiS "Incarna", and call what was actually promised "Ambulation", Mittani's stance is pretty good. Dude liked what WiS was supposed to be, thinks that CCP botched it hard, and pretty much now needs to be humbled and put in the "time out corner" for a bit to learn their lesson before they are allowed to make realdolls in space again. |
Ka P'lah
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
6
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Posted - 2012.02.29 07:30:00 -
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The Mittani wrote: I actually supported Incarna as it was initially presented in the design stages. It seemed like a necessary evolution. ...
and then right after:
The Mittani wrote: If you really need an ~ambulation fix~, you can always go make yourself a space-themed zone in Second Life and do whatever it is people over there do.
Mmkk....So let me get this straight - you know that it's a good idea if it were to be done right and is coming, but anyone who might think that should just go away?...got it...makes total sense... So it's gonna be the blinded to the direction the game will eventually take by the disgusting failure CCP bungled with incarna then is it? Alright...
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Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1699
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Posted - 2012.02.29 07:49:00 -
[846] - Quote
Ka P'lah wrote:The Mittani wrote: I actually supported Incarna as it was initially presented in the design stages. It seemed like a necessary evolution. ...
and then right after: The Mittani wrote: If you really need an ~ambulation fix~, you can always go make yourself a space-themed zone in Second Life and do whatever it is people over there do.
Mmkk....So let me get this straight - you know that it's a good idea if it were to be done right and is coming, but anyone who might think that should just go away?...got it...makes total sense... So it's gonna be the blinded to the direction the game will eventually take by the disgusting failure CCP bungled with incarna then is it? Alright...
Issler Dainze alt spotted.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Ka P'lah
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
6
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Posted - 2012.02.29 07:56:00 -
[847] - Quote
Ladie Harlot wrote:
Issler Dainze alt spotted.
Nope, sorry bud.
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Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
783
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Posted - 2012.02.29 15:00:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:Skippermonkey cant even make it as a Director in his corporation, but i can tell he has what it takes to lead the CSM. If i wasnt running for CSM myself i'd vote for him!
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The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5506
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Posted - 2012.02.29 15:19:00 -
[849] - Quote
Ka P'lah wrote:The Mittani wrote: I actually supported Incarna as it was initially presented in the design stages. It seemed like a necessary evolution. ...
and then right after: The Mittani wrote: If you really need an ~ambulation fix~, you can always go make yourself a space-themed zone in Second Life and do whatever it is people over there do.
Mmkk....So let me get this straight - you know that it's a good idea if it were to be done right and is coming, but anyone who might think that should just go away?...got it...makes total sense... So it's gonna be the blinded to the direction the game will eventually take by the disgusting failure CCP bungled with incarna then is it? Alright...
If you don't understand why the practical effect of the Incarna botch has everyone with any kind of business sense leery of expending more work on WiS, I don't know what to tell you. All the mmmkays and ...s in the world won't change the playerbase's kneejerk reaction to last June. The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |
Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
783
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Posted - 2012.02.29 15:22:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:All the mmmkays and ...s in the world won't change the playerbase's kneejerk reaction to last June. I let my knee make all my serious life decisions
true story
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Nirnaeth Ornoediad
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
52
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Posted - 2012.02.29 16:27:00 -
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The Mittani wrote: If you really need an ~ambulation fix~, you can always go make yourself a space-themed zone in Second Life and do whatever it is people over there do.
We really don't want to bring up what people do In Second Life in this forum. This is a respectful sort of place, after all, and one shudders at the wanton hedonism of such venues.
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
206
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Posted - 2012.02.29 16:39:00 -
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Skippermonkey wrote:The Mittani wrote:All the mmmkays and ...s in the world won't change the playerbase's kneejerk reaction to last June. I let my knee make all my serious life decisions true story I think you take EVE a bit too seriously if it's a life decision. Are you also running for CSM? Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
784
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Posted - 2012.02.29 17:11:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Skippermonkey wrote:The Mittani wrote:All the mmmkays and ...s in the world won't change the playerbase's kneejerk reaction to last June. I let my knee make all my serious life decisions true story I think you take EVE a bit too seriously if it's a life decision. Are you also running for CSM? Indeed, CSM is srs bizness, and i intend to use BOTH my knees if elected
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knobber Jobbler
Seniors Clan Get Off My Lawn
40
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Posted - 2012.02.29 17:14:00 -
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Nirnaeth Ornoediad wrote:The Mittani wrote: If you really need an ~ambulation fix~, you can always go make yourself a space-themed zone in Second Life and do whatever it is people over there do.
We really don't want to bring up what people do In Second Life in this forum. This is a respectful sort of place, after all, and one shudders at the wanton hedonism of such venues.
There are EVE channels for Second lifers...I once made the mistake I'll pass on now to everyone who reads this, of going to the EVE furries channel. I understand there are many more channels Xenuira occupies where they talk about deviant practices. |
Falin Whalen
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
132
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Posted - 2012.02.29 21:13:00 -
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Skippermonkey wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Skippermonkey wrote:The Mittani wrote:All the mmmkays and ...s in the world won't change the playerbase's kneejerk reaction to last June. I let my knee make all my serious life decisions true story I think you take EVE a bit too seriously if it's a life decision. Are you also running for CSM? Indeed, CSM is srs bizness, and i intend to use BOTH my knees if elected Just as long as those knees find CCPs groin if they try something stupid, again. You've got to remember that these are just simple miners. These are people of the land. The common clay of New Eden. You know... morons. |
Triskian
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5
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Posted - 2012.02.29 21:25:00 -
[856] - Quote
Skippermonkey wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Skippermonkey wrote:The Mittani wrote:All the mmmkays and ...s in the world won't change the playerbase's kneejerk reaction to last June. I let my knee make all my serious life decisions true story I think you take EVE a bit too seriously if it's a life decision. Are you also running for CSM? Indeed, CSM is srs bizness, and i intend to use BOTH my knees if elected
Why wait until you are(n't) elected? You can get started right now! *zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzip* |
Revolution Rising
Gentlemen of Better Ilk
79
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Posted - 2012.02.29 21:33:00 -
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Triskian wrote:Skippermonkey wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Skippermonkey wrote:The Mittani wrote:All the mmmkays and ...s in the world won't change the playerbase's kneejerk reaction to last June. I let my knee make all my serious life decisions true story I think you take EVE a bit too seriously if it's a life decision. Are you also running for CSM? Indeed, CSM is srs bizness, and i intend to use BOTH my knees if elected Why wait until you are(n't) elected? You can get started right now! *zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzip*
Best use of goonswarm knees in 6 CSM's.
Manufacturing Papercuts ***CSM Interstellar Debate - Mining Profession**
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Ka P'lah
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
6
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Posted - 2012.02.29 22:08:00 -
[858] - Quote
Quote:If you don't understand why the practical effect of the Incarna botch has everyone with any kind of business sense leery of expending more work on WiS, I don't know what to tell you. All the mmmkays and ...s in the world won't change the playerbase's kneejerk reaction to last June.
mmmkay. I'll consider myself put in my place. Sorry for being uppity. |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
581
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Posted - 2012.02.29 22:49:00 -
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Ka P'lah wrote:Quote:If you don't understand why the practical effect of the Incarna botch has everyone with any kind of business sense leery of expending more work on WiS, I don't know what to tell you. All the mmmkays and ...s in the world won't change the playerbase's kneejerk reaction to last June. mmmkay. I'll consider myself put in my place. Sorry for being uppity. Being reasonable is not allowed in this thread. GTFO. Rifterlings - Small gang lowsec combat corp specializing in frigates and cruisers. US Timezone veterans and newbies alike are welcome to join us. Come chat in the "we fly rifters" in-game channel. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
206
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Posted - 2012.03.01 01:17:00 -
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Revolution Rising wrote:Triskian wrote:Skippermonkey wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote: I think you take EVE a bit too seriously if it's a life decision. Are you also running for CSM?
Indeed, CSM is srs bizness, and i intend to use BOTH my knees if elected Why wait until you are(n't) elected? You can get started right now! *zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzip* Best use of goonswarm knees in 6 CSM's. Goonswarm, staying classy on an internet spaceships game forum. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
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Iris Bravemount
Aliastra Gallente Federation
60
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Posted - 2012.03.01 01:22:00 -
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Hi,
I came to this thread, determined to read more about this candidate so often described as the demon overlord of the evil goons. I really wanted to make my own opinion on the famous Mittani.
But seriously guys, pages and pages of you drooling in front of your idol from the very first page on only made me skip to the last page.
So, please Mittani, could you detail your program in a spam free place? And I mean really detailled, not just vague slogans, however promising they are. I am definately enclined to read dozens of pages of what you have to say, but please keep your fans at bay.
Regards,
Iris Improve weapon sound effects |
Largo Coronet
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
141
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Posted - 2012.03.01 01:51:00 -
[862] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:If you really need an ~ambulation fix~, you can always go make yourself a space-themed zone in Second Life and do whatever it is people over there do. Stick penises on everything and waste hours playing video poker. At least, that's all I can remember about the place. Except for W^, which stuck poker on everything and played video penises. Those scamps. This is my signature. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.
Someday, this signature may save my life. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
206
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Posted - 2012.03.01 02:53:00 -
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Iris Bravemount wrote:But seriously guys, pages and pages of you drooling in front of your idol from the very first page on only made me skip to the last page. Oh well. This reminds me of that time someone wanted to talk to Mittani on TS/Mumble too. He tried very hard... Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
Iris Bravemount
Aliastra Gallente Federation
60
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Posted - 2012.03.01 03:03:00 -
[864] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Iris Bravemount wrote:But seriously guys, pages and pages of you drooling in front of your idol from the very first page on only made me skip to the last page. Oh well. This reminds me of that time someone wanted to talk to Mittani on TS/Mumble too. He tried very hard...
A link to a nice (and related) pdf and/or blog is all I'm asking for. Improve weapon sound effects |
The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5511
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Posted - 2012.03.01 03:17:00 -
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Iris Bravemount wrote:Hi,
I came to this thread, determined to read more about this candidate so often described as the demon overlord of the evil goons. I really wanted to make my own opinion on the famous Mittani.
But seriously guys, pages and pages of you drooling in front of your idol from the very first page on only made me skip to the last page.
So, please Mittani, could you detail your program in a spam free place? And I mean really detailled, not just vague slogans, however promising they are. I am definately enclined to read dozens of pages of what you have to say, but please keep your fans at bay.
Regards,
Iris
My views on a whole pile of issues can be found in my Chairman's thread, linked in my sig, as well as almost 3 years worth of Tentonhammer columns. I don't have a consolidated 'platform document' as those are rubbish, neither did I have one last year. If you're so eager to read pages and pages, you'll appreciate the nuance. The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
206
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Posted - 2012.03.01 03:32:00 -
[866] - Quote
I wonder if they'll read that thread if they didn't read this one... Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
esc shk
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
61
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Posted - 2012.03.01 09:08:00 -
[867] - Quote
ALL WOMEN ARE MANIPULATIVE WHORES TEACH ME THEIR WAYS SO I MAY TRICK ONE INTO SHOWING ME THE MAGICAL VAGINA |
Snowflake Tem
The Order of Symbolic Measures
37
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Posted - 2012.03.01 13:01:00 -
[868] - Quote
YouGÇÖre on the short-list! what would be your Dream Team? |
DoraTheExplora Taft
The Management.
7
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Posted - 2012.03.01 17:51:00 -
[869] - Quote
art imitates life! I am in shock this dogmatic wordsmith has captured my heartstrings and played them like musical instruments! I approve! No really I mean... wtf this is video game I want the most insane bombastic csm possible to increase the "these internet are serious bidness" quotient of csm. I want these people to scare ccp and remind them they're horrible people for allowing this abomination of a game to exist. |
Killstealing
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
448
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Posted - 2012.03.01 21:52:00 -
[870] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:Iris Bravemount wrote:But seriously guys, pages and pages of you drooling in front of your idol from the very first page on only made me skip to the last page. Oh well. This reminds me of that time someone wanted to talk to Mittani on TS/Mumble too. He tried very hard... grothsmore actually sent me a pm to join broski (to be blue to The Goonies) but I wasnt allowed to accept him |
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