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Cpt Advile
Caldari
Grettistak
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Posted - 2008.01.20 22:27:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Advile on 20/01/2008 22:28:40
Sooo it's 00:19 here in Estonia and my main char is stuck in Jita...
As I had nothing to do I started browsing google for EVE, as I can't live with out it (it seems).
Then I found this:
BS concept
This is a Asgeir Jon Asgeirsson's work of an Minmatar battleship (Maelstrom, If I'm not mistaking [I fly Amarr myself :p]). I found it to be spectacular!, I only wish it would look like that in the game, but that would surely kill there poly limit for a model in the game, so as an 3D artist myself I wanted to construct a 3D model based on that concept that wouldn't be limited by polygons nor texture memory etc...
So here's my "Minmatar BShip Project": I will try to model it, as detailedly as I can and I will post my progress here, for ppl to see/judge it.
enjoy:
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Cpt Advile
Caldari
Grettistak
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Posted - 2008.01.20 22:38:00 -
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Current progress:
wing
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jam6549
Malicious Intentions
The Church.
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Posted - 2008.01.20 22:39:00 -
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nice  GL mate, that is gonna take you a long time 
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Anhammerad
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Posted - 2008.01.20 22:40:00 -
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The first time I saw that pic it reminded me of the really old style of Klingon ships in StarTrek. His work is awesome though.
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Cpt Advile
Caldari
Grettistak
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Posted - 2008.01.21 15:19:00 -
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todays progress:
untextured wing is ready
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Valan
The Fated
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2008.01.21 15:27:00 -
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Out of interest wouldn't it be easier to export the actual CCP model and then add the detail rather than start from scratch.
The proportions will be bang on for a start.
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I love old characters that post 'I've beeen playing the game four years' when I know their account has been sold on.
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Asestorian
Domination.
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Posted - 2008.01.21 15:34:00 -
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I only tried 3d modelling a bit before I got distracted, but from what I can see it can be a huge pain to take a very basic model and add detail to it. It's probably easier to do it from scratch so that the model is clean and easy to work with as the details aren't just stuck on top.
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Cpt Advile
Caldari
Grettistak
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Posted - 2008.01.21 15:39:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Advile on 21/01/2008 15:39:01
Yap... starting from start is better, as imported models can be bugged etc...
I only hope the proportions will go right (or I will make em right) when the ship starts to form.
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Cpt Advile
Caldari
Grettistak
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Posted - 2008.01.21 18:32:00 -
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Tonights progress:
first texture and reflection check
environment test
details_wing connection
details_backside of the wing
Going to work on the upper wings tomorrow, if I have time.
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Artem Plovix
Dynamic Industrial Group
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Posted - 2008.01.21 18:55:00 -
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That's neat :)
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Dragon Sworn
Caldari
North Star Networks
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.21 21:12:00 -
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looks good Cpt Advile, looking forward to more updates.
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Cybarite
Gallente
Aristotle Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.01.21 21:25:00 -
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dude that looks awsome, I've long considered adding minmatar ships to my skills list, the maelstrom is one of those ones that make me lean in that direction.
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Mavrix Able
Black Avatar
Hexad
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Posted - 2008.01.21 22:21:00 -
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Now I know what Tom Jones meant when he sang "sex me slow". Awesome project.
-NWS/Mav
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Orb Lati
Minmatar
Cold-Fury
Southern Cross Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.21 22:36:00 -
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What you have started looks impressive so far but if i might constructive suggestion.
There is no sense of scale yet evident in the wing. No sense of how it would have been constructed or maintained (this is also evident within the original concept, but hints are there in other areas.)
Some things you may wish to consider.
- Transparency (or alpha maps) to the main solar panels showing the supporting structure underneath.
- The main support strut. Is it a series of modules stacked together, or is it a steel matrix with a armor plate skin? this may go towards how you wish to texture that area to give it scale and show how it was assembled.
The upper panels above the main hull show large sections that can be removed to access the inner areas of the panels. are their any access points to the lower struts.
- If something needs repair at the base how does the crew get there? is there an internal lift or perhaps running its length should be hydraulic runs?
- your running lights are huge and "simplistic", If your going for detail glowing domes for lights is not the best approach.
Final point.
The CCP models love to show glowing windows everywhere on there ship. The problem is window placement and scaling is arbitrary and i think distorts the true sense of scale on a ship (especially comparing a frigate side by side to a battleship)
When you get to that point i would suggest stepping back from CCP and thinking on how your ship is inhabited.
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Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar
Aeden
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.01.21 22:39:00 -
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Three wings like this in a triangle, a little*****pit, a big reactor and here you go, you've got a nice new ship \o/
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Jei'son Bladesmith
The Storm Knights
The Cool Kids Club
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Posted - 2008.01.21 23:18:00 -
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I'm jealous, my skills top out with stick figures and basic cut & pasting, I tip my hat to you sir!
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Plutonian
Plutonian Shore
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Posted - 2008.01.21 23:24:00 -
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Looks like a great start.
Some 3D modeling advice learned through great suffering:
Adding detail to a low-poly real-time model is more troublesome than simply starting fresh. However, it is a great help to place the original game model into a background layer so that you may use it as a guide.
And, never ever texture anything until the model is complete. It sucks... I know... but time and time again this has come back to bite me in the ass when something has to be changed later on.
Good luck with your project!
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Cpt Advile
Caldari
Grettistak
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Posted - 2008.01.22 10:37:00 -
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Orb Lati wrote:
There is no sense of scale yet evident in the wing. No sense of how it would have been constructed or maintained (this is also evident within the original concept, but hints are there in other areas.)
-I want to build the ship exactly as it is on the concept... afther that is complete I will move on to adding things like ladders, hatches, ports, etc...
Some things you may wish to consider.
- Transparency (or alpha maps) to the main solar panels showing the supporting structure underneath.
-That is actually a pretty good idea, as it would make a large area of the ship look more real and complex... I'll work on it tonight when I'm back from work/school
- The main support strut. Is it a series of modules stacked together, or is it a steel matrix with a armor plate skin? this may go towards how you wish to texture that area to give it scale and show how it was assembled.
The upper panels above the main hull show large sections that can be removed to access the inner areas of the panels. are their any access points to the lower struts.
- If something needs repair at the base how does the crew get there? is there an internal lift or perhaps running its length should be hydraulic runs?
- your running lights are huge and "simplistic", If your going for detail glowing domes for lights is not the best approach.
-Don't worry about them. At the moment they are just painted red. They will get there textures when the time comes.
Final point.
The CCP models love to show glowing windows everywhere on there ship. The problem is window placement and scaling is arbitrary and i think distorts the true sense of scale on a ship (especially comparing a frigate side by side to a battleship)
When you get to that point i would suggest stepping back from CCP and thinking on how your ship is inhabited.
-Wilco
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Dristra
Amarr
Shadows of the Dead
The Dawn of Darkness
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Posted - 2008.01.22 11:40:00 -
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Moar pics!
It's great being Amarr isn't it.
Support the introduction of Blaze M crystals for Amarr!
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Cpt Advile
Caldari
Grettistak
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Posted - 2008.01.22 11:51:00 -
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yeah they are grate if u appreciate irony.
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Oniko Sengir
The Illuminati.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.22 14:30:00 -
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Awesome, looking forward to seeing more!
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Cpt Advile
Caldari
Grettistak
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Posted - 2008.01.22 15:45:00 -
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I have a problem. I need to see the build-up of the ship.
Can someone near around Jita who drives Maelstorm convo me in game. I'm online atm
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Lady Evangelian
Gallente
LEAP Corp
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Posted - 2008.01.22 15:53:00 -
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I love Gallente BS rathe rthan Minnie BS....but OMG the Mael makes me cream...
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Cpt Advile
Caldari
Grettistak
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Posted - 2008.01.22 19:56:00 -
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Todays progress:
Uper wing progress and new structures
I know the thing on the upper wing (the thing where the red light comes out) is out of proportion, I will work on that in the future.
I also added frames where the solar panels are built on. (not on the concept)
C U tomorrow :p
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Mattikus
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Posted - 2008.01.22 20:16:00 -
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Very cool!
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Jacob Castillo
Caldari
Copperhead Inc.
Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2008.01.22 20:33:00 -
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 Originally by: Cpt Advile
Todays progress:
Uper wing progress and new structures
I know the thing on the upper wing (the thing where the red light comes out) is out of proportion, I will work on that in the future.
I also added frames where the solar panels are built on. (not on the concept)
C U tomorrow :p
Very nice so far :D
On a side note, you might want to add the links to pictures to your first post.
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong
FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.01.22 20:34:00 -
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don't forget those wings are like solar panels :)
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zoltar
Caldari
Perdu Opus
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Posted - 2008.01.22 20:42:00 -
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Wow, nice job. Can't wait to see more.
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sakana
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2008.01.22 21:27:00 -
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A big project, but its looking good already. Keep it up.
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Cpt Advile
Caldari
Grettistak
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Posted - 2008.01.23 17:47:00 -
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Tonights progress:
main hull
Today I spent most of my time on re-scaling and because I couldn't successfully rescale the ship, so it would look normal like on the concept, I had to force the upper wing few inches back. That made the whole ship look better.
Some of you, who still have there eye sight more or less ok (from all the playing), may see some strange "welding shadows" on the second armor plate. I can assure you, that is perfectly normal, don't ask about it.
More coming tomorrow
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