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Dark Motoko
Caldari Stormlord Battleforce
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Posted - 2008.01.21 15:09:00 -
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I served as the lead fleet commander of the DMC alliance for a period of six months, before my corporations departure last december. I've watched the conflicts set upon the alliance recently, and I think it is high time someone gave DMC back a little piece of the dignity that has been ripped away by the pathetic parasites that thrive within these forums.
To those that have criticised and laughed at them for the two week period it has taken them to fall, I point out that they are under assault from Red Alliance, Ka Tet, Te-Ka, Intrepid Crossing, Ethereal Dawn and the Legion of Death. Against six alliances with titan support, with no allies coming to their aid, what in hell's name do you expect? They could hang on for longer if they wished, (only one outpost of four has actually fallen) but it is obvious their situation will not change, and why should they choose to further waste time on a situation that can't be turned for the better? They have chosen to accept the situation, surrender, and move on.
That the russians' allies have not even granted them that dignity without hinderance galls me. I remember leading a DMC contingent to the aid of Ethereal Dawn when they were under attack from The Church, another such point that makes ED's part in this after RA's blatent betrayal, frankly disgusting. But enough of that.
Having served within a total of five different alliances, DMC was the first alliance I ever felt that I could truly feel content within. The leaders; Fletcher Vardy, Guderick and Cruel Fox, were three of the most level headed leaders I have met during my eve career. It is thanks to their leadership and dedication that DMC achieved all it did in the drone regions, and they should be acknowledged for that. I am proud to call each of them friend.
The coalition, in its time constructed 4 outposts, gained a member base of around 1500 and later built no less than two titans. These things are not simple or easy to do, and took their own share of courage and perseverance to achieve.
As people here have delighted in exxagerating, (which I suggest is the greatest talent inside this forum besides misinformation) it is true DMC possessed a portion of members without experience in combat, however they had their share of skilled combatents and I was proud to lead them in battle during my time in the alliance. We had our victories, we had our losses. I'm glad to say it was the former that occured in greater number.
So finally, for something a little more pleasant than the usual content of this forum, I ask you to perhaps drop the trolling, and raise a glass of your favourite poison and toast a group of individuals who had the courage to take a leap that many still shy away from.
To Fletcher. To Guderick. To Cruel.
To DMC.
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WowZilla
The Leeroy Jenkins Project
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Posted - 2008.01.21 15:11:00 -
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1st in an unepic thread ______________________ I am the worst poaster |
Berrik Radhok
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.21 15:13:00 -
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I can't hear you over the roaring of your failure
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Aeleva
Caldari Hegemonic Core
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Posted - 2008.01.21 15:16:00 -
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Well said imo, Not much can really stand against RA + friends. Scary russians tbh :O
In before TrollSwarm arrives in force.
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Gloomy Gus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.21 15:17:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Motoko hinderance
hindrance
Sorry for the interruption go on
Quote: In Tribute to Goonfleet's Favorite Troll
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Faekurias
Federation Fleet Chaos Incarnate.
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Posted - 2008.01.21 15:18:00 -
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A good post? In my CAOD ? What in the ...?
o7 Rest in Peace sweet prince/princess/toad etc etc o/ Sig locked, abuse of use - for more information mail [email protected] |
Raeff
Eternity INC. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2008.01.21 15:20:00 -
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/raises a glass
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Jarvin Kell
Kingdom of Kador Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2008.01.21 15:20:00 -
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o/ Dark
Hope you and yours have fared well since leaving DMC.
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128th ABC123
Eve Liberation Force Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.21 15:23:00 -
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Edited by: 128th ABC123 on 21/01/2008 15:23:50 /emote puts on flameproof suit...
Not involved in any way or form, but I for one compliment the OP, that he has the balls to support old friends even though his thread will be flamed to death by the Goons.
Willingness to endure public humiliation by doing the right thing is noteworthy in my books.
In many cases I can understand the Goons trolling forums, but in this case I can't. From what I've read, the guys put up a fight and lost. They where outnumbered and outskilled. The honourable thing to do would be to leave it at that and say gf.
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Lou Cypher
Omega Enterprises Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2008.01.21 15:29:00 -
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÷7 Cruel / Guderick
Shrike > Good Morning Northen Monekys, this is God speaking. |
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The Medusa
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.21 15:33:00 -
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Originally by: Aeleva Well said imo, Not much can really stand against RA + friends. Scary russians tbh :O
In before TrollSwarm arrives in force.
Aeleva, I am so glad to see you. I do not understand this 'TrollSwarm' you talk about, but I am sure that you know what you talk about with them scary Russians.
Good to see Hegemonic Core still have some members left..
I see some goon killed you once some time ago, and the russians seems to have killed you in 2004 and 2006. Since you have lost 2 rifters and an interceptor, I think you fears of the russians are valid. And by all means, let me know what this TrollSwarm is, because they sound like bad people.
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Shinori
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2008.01.21 15:53:00 -
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None blames you for losing, but it is the way you acted during the entire situation.
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TroNaaR
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.21 15:57:00 -
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o7 DMC
Good luck, may you vengance be swift and deadly.
TroNaaR Wherever you go... There you are...
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Kal'Kalagan
Aggressive Tendencies Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2008.01.21 16:02:00 -
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Fine post by the op.
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Dog Solitude
Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.01.21 16:14:00 -
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I don't know too much about DMC, but seeing the numbers, there was no way to fight that. Good post by the op and I wish you guys luck in the future.
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MAXSuicide
Cosmic Fusion When Fat Kids Attack
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Posted - 2008.01.21 16:32:00 -
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Originally by: Berrik Radhok I can't hear you over the roaring of your failure
damn.. thats a burn.
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Omeega
UA Industry Red Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.21 17:05:00 -
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Anyone thinking that dmc's leadership wasn't arrogant, incompetent, racist and unexperimented in every aspect of the game, let it be for the POS fittings or the usage of stront, is just plain wrong.
To RA, to Goonswarm, to TCF, to AAA, to RZR/MM, to Tortugans, to BOB (hell yeah) and many others.
To alliances that diserved their 0.0 stay. Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3...
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Baxalusx
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.21 17:13:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Motoko blah blah blah
Noone is mocking them for losing when facing insurmountable odds, we are mocking them for being stupid and stubborn enough to get attacked by six titan-supported alliances in the first place. ---------
~THE ARTIST FORMERLY KNOWN AS ICORION~ |
Reacz
Caldari Empirius Enigmus Navy Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.01.21 17:19:00 -
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/salute
/waves goodbye
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Meriones
The Singularity Project Rare Faction
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Posted - 2008.01.21 17:28:00 -
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o7 DMC, Cruel (smo na vezi), Fletcher, Guedric and Dark. Good luck.
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Cybarite
Gallente Aristotle Enterprises
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Posted - 2008.01.21 17:46:00 -
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I remember DMC's support during the war with the church, my corp left ED in early december, so I've had nothing to do with the war. I've heard a lot of allegations on both sides.
All I can say is that ED and IRC not honoring the ceasefire is somewhat dishonorable, but they weren't included in the treaty so you really can't say they should go one way or the other. I don't know about DMC's dealings with RSF but they never really tried to order anyone around when I was in ED, I doubt they'd start trying to tell them what to do now. ... Why do I PvP? Because I love the feeling I get when I see the pretty lights and know that someone somewhere is screaming incoherently at their computer screen. |
Graalum
Foundation R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.01.21 17:48:00 -
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Good post. GL to all the refugees in the future. Props for making a stand.
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Vyktor Abyss
The Abyss Corporation Abyss Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.21 18:08:00 -
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Originally by: Omeega Anyone thinking that dmc's leadership wasn't arrogant, incompetent, racist and unexperimented in every aspect of the game, let it be for the POS fittings or the usage of stront, is just plain wrong.
To RA, to Goonswarm, to TCF, to AAA, to RZR/MM, to Tortugans, to BOB (hell yeah) and many others.
To alliances that diserved their 0.0 stay.
I'm pretty neutral and uninformed as far as it all goes, but even I can see that DMC staked a fairly solid claim in the drone regions, they then used their time there building stations and a large player base alliance.
As a former friend of theirs you really do no credit to yourselves by suggesting they didn't deserve to be there in the first place.
Good post Dark. Nice to see some respect and loyalty in CAOD for a change. o7
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IamBen
Caldari Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.01.21 18:17:00 -
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it takes alot of hardwork to build up 0.0 space and its easy to lose all you worked for. Props for building stations and good luck in the future.
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Prez21
coracao ardente Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.21 18:28:00 -
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Originally by: Vyktor Abyss
Originally by: Omeega To RA, to Goonswarm, to TCF, to AAA, to RZR/MM, to Tortugans, to BOB (hell yeah) and many others.
To alliances that diserved their 0.0 stay.
I'm pretty neutral and uninformed as far as it all goes, but even I can see that DMC staked a fairly solid claim in the drone regions, they then used their time there building stations and a large player base alliance.
As a former friend of theirs you really do no credit to yourselves by suggesting they didn't deserve to be there in the first place.
Good post Dark. Nice to see some respect and loyalty in CAOD for a change. o7
I respect what DMC did with there space, but they didnt deserve it, any alliance that relied on another alliance to fight every battle for them doesnt deserve space.
To many alliances have an easy ride into 0.0 then dont understand why they are swept away, look at bob and RA, RA were in a similar position to BOB is know but both them alliances never gave up, and i dont think BOB will, thats why they deserve space. This might be abit biased but Tri fought against 4 alliances for our space, maybe they werent the best pvp alliances but we was largely outnumbered and we claimed our space, so we deserved it, CVA deserve there space because they will do anything to defend it and the list goes on, but to many people rely on others to do the work for them or only fight in blobs and those are the alliances that dont deserve there own space.
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Batutai
Empirius Enigmus Navy Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.01.21 18:31:00 -
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Edited by: Batutai on 21/01/2008 18:31:58
Originally by: Omeega Anyone thinking that dmc's leadership wasn't arrogant, incompetent, racist and unexperimented in every aspect of the game, let it be for the POS fittings or the usage of stront, is just plain wrong.
To RA, to Goonswarm, to TCF, to AAA, to RZR/MM, to Tortugans, to BOB (hell yeah) and many others.
To alliances that diserved their 0.0 stay.
Racist might be a bit of an overstatement. I don't think they did anything in particular BECAUSE of someone's race, though they may have indulged in a running joke around these forums that is rather racist in regard to RA.
As for what the OP said about the leaders. They made alot of mistakes in the end, and yeah, they came off pretty "meh" at the end there, but it wasn't always like that.
DMC had alot of good people in it. It had a good run and accomplished alot.
Better decisions could have been made and maybe they wouldn't be in their current situation, but hindsight is always 20/20 and that's just the way it goes.
Good luck DMC guys. Nice post DM.
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Wesley Baird
Murder-Death-Kill
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Posted - 2008.01.21 18:53:00 -
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There are some good people in DMC of that there is no doubt, and to lose their space is a real shame.
Sadly, DMC members did themselves no favours by posting some of the things they posted on these boards. You can't paint an alliance with one brush because of a few posters, be it DMC or RA...
Personally its a bit sad that DMC didn't fight hard until the end...while defeating RA would be next to impossible, you did rob yourself of some extremely tough fights! How often do you get a chance to stand toe-toe with a cap fleet like RA's? Or small gang battles with Legion!? Sure you would have lost ships, etc...but its a game, and it could have been a super fun one, too bad you robbed yourselves of an opportunity to really have some intense pvp for a few weeks.
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Dirtee Girl
Omega Enterprises Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2008.01.21 19:02:00 -
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to RA - 07
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.21 19:05:00 -
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Sorry to see you guys go o7 ------
Originally by: CCP Prism X There's no such thing as playing too much EvE! You all obviously need more accounts! |
Alice Beeblebrox
Caldari Elemental Stigma Te-Ka
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Posted - 2008.01.21 19:17:00 -
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Originally by: Dark Motoko I served as the lead fleet commander of the DMC alliance for a period of six months, before my corporations departure last december. I've watched the conflicts set upon the alliance recently, and I think it is high time someone gave DMC back a little piece of the dignity that has been ripped away by the pathetic parasites that thrive within these forums.
To those that have criticised and laughed at them for the two week period it has taken them to fall, I point out that they are under assault from Red Alliance, Ka Tet, Te-Ka, Intrepid Crossing, Ethereal Dawn and the Legion of Death. Against six alliances with titan support, with no allies coming to their aid, what in hell's name do you expect? They could hang on for longer if they wished, (only one outpost of four has actually fallen) but it is obvious their situation will not change, and why should they choose to further waste time on a situation that can't be turned for the better? They have chosen to accept the situation, surrender, and move on.
That the russians' allies have not even granted them that dignity without hinderance galls me. I remember leading a DMC contingent to the aid of Ethereal Dawn when they were under attack from The Church, another such point that makes ED's part in this after RA's blatent betrayal, frankly disgusting. But enough of that.
Having served within a total of five different alliances, DMC was the first alliance I ever felt that I could truly feel content within. The leaders; Fletcher Vardy, Guderick and Cruel Fox, were three of the most level headed leaders I have met during my eve career. It is thanks to their leadership and dedication that DMC achieved all it did in the drone regions, and they should be acknowledged for that. I am proud to call each of them friend.
The coalition, in its time constructed 4 outposts, gained a member base of around 1500 and later built no less than two titans. These things are not simple or easy to do, and took their own share of courage and perseverance to achieve.
As people here have delighted in exxagerating, (which I suggest is the greatest talent inside this forum besides misinformation) it is true DMC possessed a portion of members without experience in combat, however they had their share of skilled combatents and I was proud to lead them in battle during my time in the alliance. We had our victories, we had our losses. I'm glad to say it was the former that occured in greater number.
So finally, for something a little more pleasant than the usual content of this forum, I ask you to perhaps drop the trolling, and raise a glass of your favourite poison and toast a group of individuals who had the courage to take a leap that many still shy away from.
To Fletcher. To Guderick. To Cruel.
To DMC.
Just one question. You don't consider CHAOS Incarnate and Atlas as allies? Then there was also Oooh Shiny who helped you destroy a Ka-Tet mothership, but I guess they don't count either. --- "Only wimps use tape backup: _real_ men just upload their important stuff on ftp, and let the rest of the world mirror it ;)" -Linus |
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