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Muro Deez
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.22 12:49:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Kcel Chim However i dont see any other alliance in eve history yet having stood against such odds for this long and still coming back for more.
alright own up who's been giving bob alts fakeposting lectures
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DaiTengu
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.22 12:54:00 -
[122]
Originally by: Kcel Chim However i dont see any other alliance in eve history yet having stood against such odds for this long and still coming back for more.
Damnit, we're not killing BoB fast enough.
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Kcel Chim
Caldari Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2008.01.22 12:55:00 -
[123]
Edited by: Kcel Chim on 22/01/2008 12:54:57 more oneliners my GS pubbies.
Cmon we can get another page.
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Muro Deez
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.22 12:57:00 -
[124]
Originally by: Kcel Chim Edited by: Kcel Chim on 22/01/2008 12:54:57 more oneliners my GS pubbies.
Cmon we can get another page.
more oneliners my pets my plan is working to perfection *posts a oneliner*
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Goberth Ludwig
eXceed Inc. eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.01.22 13:06:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Kcel Chim Edited by: Kcel Chim on 22/01/2008 12:25:30
Originally by: Malachon Draco
Hey, Sgt Spot. Don't tell anyone, but I'll let you in on a little secret.
Its 2008, not 2006. You need to go back 2 years at least to find the last time people actually believed you.
That would be around the same time you had any significance, right?
While generally not giving a toss about the current war your constant posting actually made me want to reply. As personal as it can get i really wonder how you dare to step up to bloat and toot your own horn ever since the fail of Ascn like you actually achieved anything.
Malachon doesnt speak for the corp. Btw for someone who doesnt give a toss you post an awfull lot :V
- Gob
IXC Recruitment |

Dafuzz
Gallente Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.22 13:09:00 -
[126]
Originally by: Sergeant Spot Every asset in Delve that I and my fellow "BoB carebears" (yes, we do exist), have busted our asses to build and develope are on the line, and we and BoB as a whole will lay them on the line AGAIN for some epic pew pew. Its what BoB does, always has done, and always will do.
BoB seeks a good fight.
Once you understand that, you understand BoB.
It's me, I am a fellow carebear!
Originally by: Mr Mozzie It should be noted that RSF is not the same as BoB, they are a much more sinister version.
BoB was driven to conquest buy the challenge - we took on the majority of 0.0 against the odds. For us, tenants were a necessity, but never sought to exploit them. We always treated them with respect and dignity because exploiting people, especially allies, presents no challenge.
The goons and especially RA are driven to conquest by greed - they go to great lengths to avoid any challenge. They will treat their pets and allies with respect if it is in their interest to do so. However, they have no moral objection to treating friends with contempt if should it be to their advantage. ThatĘs why RSF will not incite the masses to rise against them, but to take them out with overwhelming force. At least until RA turns on goons.
Mozzie, you donut "get" RSF.
RA does what it does to build infrastructure.
Goons do what they do, because they are goons.
You could input "BoB" in place of "RA" and/or "RSF" in there and see many similarities.
Where the real difference I see lies is this:
BoB does what it does for pew pew as a whole.
Goons do what they do to leave their mark on the internet, and to urinate in most everyone's cheerios. Because they can is a good enough reason.
RA does what they do, to build more shiny stuff, and create a strong empire. If it appears RA is avoiding a challenge, it means they are working on their infrastructure for the next engagement, such as building another Titan or a slew of MoM's and carriers, and gathering resources for a long cold winter. Tis what they do, and have done. Let's just say, this is the calm before the storm, and their warm up (keeping pvp'rs happy) is smaller clashes closer to home.
So yes, it appears as though they are a more sinister version, but at the end of the day, everyone gets what they want, player driven content and epic battles. Each side has their methodology, just don't throw the baby out with the bathwater by assuming that just because your enemy is quiet and not throwing itself at you 100% of the time, that they are sitting idle.
Tis a win win at this point.
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-If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets.. |

Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc. eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.01.22 13:13:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Kcel Chim Edited by: Kcel Chim on 22/01/2008 12:25:30
Originally by: Malachon Draco
Hey, Sgt Spot. Don't tell anyone, but I'll let you in on a little secret.
Its 2008, not 2006. You need to go back 2 years at least to find the last time people actually believed you.
That would be around the same time you had any significance, right?
While generally not giving a toss about the current war your constant posting actually made me want to reply. As personal as it can get i really wonder how you dare to step up to bloat and toot your own horn ever since the fail of Ascn like you actually achieved anything.
You predicted BoB to die miserably to ASCN back in the days. You saw your own tpar invasion as a sign of the end of BoB. You claimed after the t20 incident that BoB would be steamrolled. When Rise and others fell you were there with geikedoku (? or did that failure end before?) and here to point fingers towards delve like you actually mattered and now we have you once again parading around and telling ppl how they are supposed to see the game in the same way you prefer. Your exaggerated statements of "80% or 50% of eve against you" leave alot of questions to be asked. Your constant nagging of how BoB's moral is going to fall doesnt support the facts of them killing left right and center and their memberbase actually enjoying it (and staying stable). Your predictions of how a titan loss actually is a final nail to the coffin of an alliance doesnt hold true for BoB at all and there are atleast a dozend other company lines you keep tooting on about which are as untrue.
In short all bbq yada yada and regions yada yada aside. BoB fights since 2 years against "the coalition". Losses on both sides happened and BoB is currently on the backfoot. However i dont see any other alliance in eve history yet having stood against such odds for this long and still coming back for more.
Just reading your own corp and alliancehistory im quiet sure you can agree on that malachon since ASCN and XETIC both failed against below even odds.
Had any significance? Are we playing the same game here? Are we talking about the same Malachon Draco? Let's see, I was of any significance in Eve around.......hmmm.......actually, never.
Aside from that mistake, you also place me during the time of Xetic. When Xetic existed I was actually playing another MMO. So I'm sorry, while I may be getting old, I'm not a really old fart like you.
I don't recall ever considering TPAR to be the end of BoB. I might have posted it, don't remember that either, but hey, it was a war and a war needs propaganda. And I was more than happy to participate both on the battlefield and on the forums 
But I've never actually made the mistake of considering myself to be of any significance, unlike perhaps one of the last members of a dead alliance like 'The Five' that has been dead since before I even joined the game I think.
I just like to comment on stuff that interest me, and nothing is more funny than ****ing of a few self-righteous internet spacegame warriors who go as far as to cheat and metagame their way to victory every damn time, and then even toot their own horns about it as if they are anything special. So thanks for the response, quoting Sgt Spot here, its what I was after all along (insert maniacal laughter).
Anyway, I was not around for the Gekidoku thing. I was there with Exceed to push RISE out of KOS-space, but in terms of accomplishments in the war thats about it for me personally. Since then I've resigned as CEO so I am in semi-retirement, but I do like to push a few buttons now and again.
But you know what the funniest thing is? The real reason for your post. The reason it irked you so much that you just had to hit that reply button?
Because my comment was true. It was back in 2006 that BoB was believed for the last time, and that galls you, doesn't it?    ------------------------------------------------
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Frederick Skinner
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.22 13:34:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Kcel Chim
GS pubbies.
This makes my brain hurt.
Filter us out all you want, it still won't change the truth. |

Kcel Chim
Caldari Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2008.01.22 13:35:00 -
[129]
Originally by: Malachon Draco
I don't recall ever considering TPAR to be the end of BoB. I might have posted it, don't remember that either, but hey, it was a war and a war needs propaganda. And I was more than happy to participate both on the battlefield and on the forums 
Okay so your posts are generally PR and should be ignored.
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But I've never actually made the mistake of considering myself to be of any significance, unlike perhaps one of the last members of a dead alliance like 'The Five' that has been dead since before I even joined the game I think.
Quiet funny you claim the honor of retirment from eve for yourself while not granting others the same option.
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I just like to comment on stuff that interest me, and nothing is more funny than ****ing of a few self-righteous internet spacegame warriors who go as far as to cheat and metagame their way to victory every damn time, and then even toot their own horns about it as if they are anything special. So thanks for the response, quoting Sgt Spot here, its what I was after all along (insert maniacal laughter).
Considering you just described the majority of all alliances in eve i wonder how you find time to be retired. Afterall by your own standards every thread in this forum would need a reply. As for the "i just wanted a reply" attitude, here is a protip, mention Goonswarm in your next post and write "quote me if youre down" and im sure you will get a weekend worth of pleasure.
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But you know what the funniest thing is? The real reason for your post. The reason it irked you so much that you just had to hit that reply button?
Because my comment was true. It was back in 2006 that BoB was believed for the last time, and that galls you, doesn't it?   
You mean the reason you THINK was behind my post, right? As for believing BoB, believe any alliance in this game and you are out to get a surprise. The only alliance i would trust would be CVA and Chribba as they are the only ones not just out for themself. As you put it yourself, COAD is about PR and ppl come here to push a few buttons once in awhile. Regardless of their ingame activities. The playerbase grew to the point where a forum reputation actually isnt worth the water anymore. Your harping on about BoB not beeing believed might be true or it might be just PR. Time will tell once RA or GS is the focus of attention in the galaxy. Ive seen in my own time in eve friends turn to bitter enemies and bitter enemies to give "kudos and respect" to the point where they became partners. Eve will change one day again.
As for Gob, posting 3-4 times a month is alot these days ? Seems GS washed down the standards abit, huh ?
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Wreckus
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Posted - 2008.01.22 13:44:00 -
[130]
Originally by: Sergeant Spot
BoB seeks a good fight.
Quote: *locks down a system with entire cap fleet and 5 titans*
They did come out and pewpew.... our station services... TWICE!
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Tholarim
Amarr Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.22 13:53:00 -
[131]
Originally by: DaiTengu
Originally by: Sergeant Spot
BoB seeks a good fight.
*locks down a system with entire cap fleet and 5 titans*
*hides in stations while bob shoots my station services in 49-u*
*still hides in station when tcf and unl engage bob 1 jump out of 49-u*
*Goes off to smack CAOD about bob looking for fights*
i love goons.  *snip* Signature unsuitable for forums. Please refrain from refering to ongoing investigations in your signature - Valorem |

Virgil Aquilis
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.22 13:54:00 -
[132]
Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: DaiTengu
Originally by: Sergeant Spot
BoB seeks a good fight.
*locks down a system with entire cap fleet and 5 titans*
*hides in stations while bob shoots my station services in 49-u*
*still hides in station when tcf and unl engage bob 1 jump out of 49-u*
*Goes off to smack CAOD about bob looking for fights*
i love goons. 
how will we research our rifter bpos now :((((((((((((((

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Popperr
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.01.22 13:56:00 -
[133]
Edited by: Popperr on 22/01/2008 13:56:15
Originally by: Tholarim
Originally by: DaiTengu
Originally by: Sergeant Spot
BoB seeks a good fight.
*locks down a system with entire cap fleet and 5 titans*
*hides in stations while bob shoots my station services in 49-u*
*still hides in station when tcf and unl engage bob 1 jump out of 49-u*
*Goes off to smack CAOD about bob looking for fights*
i love goons. 
*posts*
*really*
*akwardly*
*about*
*it*
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Homo Erectus
Amarr Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.22 14:01:00 -
[134]
the only reason we have titans at all is because they have lots of hanger space and stuff. cus we need lots of space to move things out of 0.0 into empire.
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc. eXceed.
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Posted - 2008.01.22 14:07:00 -
[135]
Originally by: Kcel Chim
Okay so your posts are generally PR and should be ignored.
Yep. I think any semi-intelligent forum poster realizes when I am writing crap just to get a response and when I am serious. Fortunately that leaves about 75% of the people here who don't (And don't give me crap about using percentages like that without any base, you should know better than to assume the actual number is relevant.
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But I've never actually made the mistake of considering myself to be of any significance, unlike perhaps one of the last members of a dead alliance like 'The Five' that has been dead since before I even joined the game I think.
Quiet funny you claim the honor of retirment from eve for yourself while not granting others the same option.
I would never call out another semi-retired person for not being relevant. But if a semi-retired nobody calls me out for being a nobody, that's when I react. Call me crazy, but I like to react to blatant hypocrisy.
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As for the "i just wanted a reply" attitude, here is a protip, mention Goonswarm in your next post and write "quote me if youre down" and im sure you will get a weekend worth of pleasure.
I do still have SOME standards, TYVM! Getting a reply from Goons is about as difficult as stealing candy from a baby.
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As for believing BoB, believe any alliance in this game and you are out to get a surprise. The only alliance i would trust would be CVA and Chribba as they are the only ones not just out for themself. As you put it yourself, COAD is about PR and ppl come here to push a few buttons once in awhile. Regardless of their ingame activities. The playerbase grew to the point where a forum reputation actually isnt worth the water anymore. Your harping on about BoB not beeing believed might be true or it might be just PR. Time will tell once RA or GS is the focus of attention in the galaxy. Ive seen in my own time in eve friends turn to bitter enemies and bitter enemies to give "kudos and respect" to the point where they became partners. Eve will change one day again.
I doubt anybody trusts RA or Goons. IMO the Coalition is not built on 'like', 'trust' or on 'mutual respect' or any other crap that doesn't exist in Eve on the Alliance level. But aside from all their flaws, RA and Goons at least have the common decency not to be hypocritical, tooting their own greatness all the time. Yes they are bastards, but like Kissinger once said, they are OUR bastards. ------------------------------------------------
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Princess Jodi
Vendetta Underground Rule of Three
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Posted - 2008.01.22 15:20:00 -
[136]
Wait... what was this thread about again? Oh, yeah, cynojammed systems.
Simple: If Bob defends one cynojammed system, attack a different one.
After all, the goal is Extermination, right? So we kill everything that is not defended, limiting the systems where Bob has control, until they only have one Cynojammed system left. Then you camp that system and don't let them out. Eventually their viligance will fall, and you can get in to the Cynojammer.
I mean, we're not really in a HURRY, are we?
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TWD
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.22 15:36:00 -
[137]
Originally by: Princess Jodi Wait... what was this thread about again? Oh, yeah, cynojammed systems.
Simple: If Bob defends one cynojammed system, attack a different one.
After all, the goal is Extermination, right? So we kill everything that is not defended, limiting the systems where Bob has control, until they only have one Cynojammed system left. Then you camp that system and don't let them out. Eventually their viligance will fall, and you can get in to the Cynojammer.
I mean, we're not really in a HURRY, are we?
Good idea.
I suggest 3 fronts. The people in the Fountain area attack Y-2, Tortuga attacks TPAR and RSF and friends attack RKK's constellation. |

Tumadra
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.22 15:38:00 -
[138]
All this ranting about cyno-jammers and titans is kinda amusing. Fact is most of the fighting with Goon/PL and the crew is happening in Delve core and as Astasia said in earlier topics maybe this one they are not cyno-jammed and can never be.
Hot dropping. |

Lemptie
Gallente Glass House
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Posted - 2008.01.22 15:41:00 -
[139]
When BOB is dead ,CCP GM`s gona play pirats of the burning see.
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Trishan
Green Men Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.01.22 15:56:00 -
[140]
Originally by: Lemptie
When BOB is dead ,CCP GM`s gona play pirats of the burning see.
What a horribly boring game. But at least the UI is better than eves. Unfortunately for us. Cause its even more horrible than horribly boring that game is.
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titanstory
Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2008.01.22 16:00:00 -
[141]
bob can't play whithout jump bridge or lagfest for win. that all.
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Jade Constantine
Gallente Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2008.01.22 16:01:00 -
[142]
For what its worth I personally believe that cynojammers are complete game-breakers at the moment in combination with deathstar POS and are absolutely not what CCP intended them to be when the idea reached the live server. I'm hoping that cyno-jammers get a severe nerfing this year and 0.0 conquest becomes a significant prospect again and the battle lines can get moving.
That said, even if the cyno-jammers get altered I don't see Goons making much progress against BoB ever really. I think the Southern Coalition is fragile and self-interested and extremely risk-adverse and the lynch mob is losing interest in the pure scale of fighting required to compete with (let alone) best Band of Brothers at this point.
This was a war driven by hatred and vendetta and whipped up by murky accusations and general bad-behaviour all round. But the reality is Eve is a game and most people eventually "get over" these feuds and crazy self-defeating crusades and look back to their own enjoyment and gameplay experience. How much fun is it really to move across the map and sit in huge blobs waiting to relog into game? Not much, and aside from those commanders and generals and plotters and schemers to whom this stuff is a holy cause its just an imperative that is clearly on the wane and the frenzied climate of posts and analysis to the contrary highlights nothing so much as a the conflict moving from space to forum and factual to froth.
If the Goons and their friends cared enough they'd have won. But "caring enough" in this context means a far greater degree of discipline, planning, innovation and raw stubborn focus that I'm just not convinced they possess to any appropriate degree.
BOB is getting the fight they wanted and slaughtering their foes in the thousands. RA is getting the benefit of all spotlights turned away from them. Various hangers-on are enjoying the big blob stuff until it turns sour. Goonswarm are seeing the ultimate goal slipping away from them and beginning to grapple with the ticklish issue of "expectation management" at the tail end of a campaign they lack the ability, drive and raw stamina to conclude.
"I might not have meant anything by it" |

Riddlock
Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.22 16:18:00 -
[143]
Originally by: titanstory bob can't play whithout jump bridge or lagfest for win. that all.
TCF comedy !
   http://www.killboard.net/sigs/riddlock/random/sig.gif |

thebold
MASS
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Posted - 2008.01.22 16:24:00 -
[144]
Originally by: Jade Constantine
I'm hoping that cyno-jammers get a severe nerfing this year and 0.0 conquest becomes a significant prospect again and the battle lines can get moving.
What are you planning Jade? :)
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Khorian
Gallente Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.01.22 16:27:00 -
[145]
Zomg CCP pwease nurf Tinats and Cyon Jamemrs because we cnat beat BoB with outr nberbolb! No fair! Buhhuhuhuu.
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xRazoRx
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2008.01.22 16:29:00 -
[146]
Originally by: Khorian Zomg CCP pwease nurf Tinats and Cyon Jamemrs because we cnat beat BoB with outr nberbolb! No fair! Buhhuhuhuu.
But can BoB take a station system from RSF with titans and cynojammers in place? No.
Dead end, eh?
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Khorian
Gallente Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2008.01.22 16:33:00 -
[147]
Originally by: xRazoRx
Originally by: Khorian Zomg CCP pwease nurf Tinats and Cyon Jamemrs because we cnat beat BoB with outr nberbolb! No fair! Buhhuhuhuu.
But can BoB take a station system from RSF with titans and cynojammers in place? No.
Dead end, eh?
Easy, all you need is spies.
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Dirge
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2008.01.22 16:35:00 -
[148]
Originally by: Jade Constantine
For what its worth I personally believe that cynojammers are complete game-breakers at the moment in combination with deathstar POS and are absolutely not what CCP intended them to be when the idea reached the live server. I'm hoping that cyno-jammers get a severe nerfing this year and 0.0 conquest becomes a significant prospect again and the battle lines can get moving.
That said, even if the cyno-jammers get altered I don't see Goons making much progress against BoB ever really. I think the Southern Coalition is fragile and self-interested and extremely risk-adverse and the lynch mob is losing interest in the pure scale of fighting required to compete with (let alone) best Band of Brothers at this point.
This was a war driven by hatred and vendetta and whipped up by murky accusations and general bad-behaviour all round. But the reality is Eve is a game and most people eventually "get over" these feuds and crazy self-defeating crusades and look back to their own enjoyment and gameplay experience. How much fun is it really to move across the map and sit in huge blobs waiting to relog into game? Not much, and aside from those commanders and generals and plotters and schemers to whom this stuff is a holy cause its just an imperative that is clearly on the wane and the frenzied climate of posts and analysis to the contrary highlights nothing so much as a the conflict moving from space to forum and factual to froth.
If the Goons and their friends cared enough they'd have won. But "caring enough" in this context means a far greater degree of discipline, planning, innovation and raw stubborn focus that I'm just not convinced they possess to any appropriate degree.
BOB is getting the fight they wanted and slaughtering their foes in the thousands. RA is getting the benefit of all spotlights turned away from them. Various hangers-on are enjoying the big blob stuff until it turns sour. Goonswarm are seeing the ultimate goal slipping away from them and beginning to grapple with the ticklish issue of "expectation management" at the tail end of a campaign they lack the ability, drive and raw stamina to conclude.
Jade, I'm really glad you are back. This place is a gutter, but it is nice to see a well composed post in this sea of p*ss. Thanks to you. |

Ur235
Deadly Addiction
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Posted - 2008.01.22 16:56:00 -
[149]
gm's stop this sensless smack :(
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xRazoRx
The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2008.01.22 16:58:00 -
[150]
Edited by: xRazoRx on 22/01/2008 16:58:14
Originally by: Ur235 gm's stop this sensless smack :(
Stop whining *****, noone is smacking you.
O****, now i am ;\
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