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Steeel Rod
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Posted - 2008.01.23 15:57:00 -
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Howdy Mission Runners I am searching for mission runners who are willing to share LP with my corp members. I pay 10.000 ISK for each LP you give us for one of the following corporations:
Ishukone Corporation (Caldari) and Lai Dai Corporation (Caldari)
How this works? 1) You chat to me ("Steeel Rod") to check if I am online and if I want to trade LPs with you... 2) You make a level 3 or level 4 mission for one of the above named corps . 3) On the way back to your agent you invite me into a fleet (you must be solo, otherwise I wont accept!)
(and after I accepted) 4) You tell me which Corp and how many LP this mission gives 5) You share the mission with me (tell your agent that your team finished the mission, so you share 50% of the LP and Reward with me) 6) I check how much LP I got and give you 10.000 ISK for each LP (10.000 ISk does not sound much, but for a normal level 4 mission with 2000 LP that already 10mio!) 7) I will leave the fleet again, because I don't want to be in a fleet with you while you do a mission
I stole this idea from another forum posting, thanks for this idea
If you are interested in earning some million this way just chat to me! If you don't trust me you can also start sharing a small mision in the beginning...
Regards, Persnickety Pilots (PERSN)
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Jackie Fisher
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Posted - 2008.01.23 16:07:00 -
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Originally by: Steeel Rod Howdy Mission Runners I pay 10.000 ISK for each LP you give us ....
Presumably that is 10000 rather than 10?
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Kingslayer2
Gallente Zandahr Corp
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Posted - 2008.01.23 17:17:00 -
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your not the only 1 who knows about this,ive been doing this since they put the system in the game...sharing lp and isk and standings
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Steeel Rod
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Posted - 2008.01.23 22:33:00 -
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Yes you are correct. It is 10,000 and not 10.000 I have edited it to reflect the correct typo.
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Cameron Vayle
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Posted - 2008.01.24 02:14:00 -
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While this might sound good on the surface there is a small thing that you are not telling people. Not only you profit by getting half the LP from the mission, you get half the reward AND standing with not only the agent that the mission is done for but the corp that the agent belongs to.
You speak of 10 million ISK for a level 4. Ok..but you fail, as I stated above, to mention that you get more than the LP's
So you do a level 4, sell you the LP's for 10 million isk...lose 2 million in rewards from the agent and lose part of your standing gain that you will be using, from the corps I see that you have selected, to run R&D missions.
How cheesy.....
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Kailiani
Blue Home
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Posted - 2008.01.24 04:22:00 -
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Edited by: Kailiani on 24/01/2008 04:24:22 Edited by: Kailiani on 24/01/2008 04:22:40
Originally by: Cameron Vayle While this might sound good on the surface there is a small thing that you are not telling people. Not only you profit by getting half the LP from the mission, you get half the reward AND standing with not only the agent that the mission is done for but the corp that the agent belongs to.
You speak of 10 million ISK for a level 4. Ok..but you fail, as I stated above, to mention that you get more than the LP's
So you do a level 4, sell you the LP's for 10 million isk...lose 2 million in rewards from the agent and lose part of your standing gain that you will be using, from the corps I see that you have selected, to run R&D missions.
How cheesy.....
He did say the LP and reward is split. True he didn't mention the standing split(which technically is a reward). This is still a very good LP to isk ratio that you will have a very hard time finding elsewhere. I'd do it if I wasn't lazy.
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the thorn
Tres Viri
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Posted - 2008.01.24 08:55:00 -
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i have done the same deal with another character, and its definitely worth it.
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Sharida
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Posted - 2008.01.24 09:10:00 -
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I have done this with another player as well. A very good tradeoff.
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Zooooooom
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Posted - 2008.01.24 09:12:00 -
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If your standings are already good, then it shouldn't be a problem.
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Vinya Orcrist
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Posted - 2008.01.24 09:18:00 -
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Edited by: Vinya Orcrist on 24/01/2008 09:17:48 10,000 = 10 in many european countries 10.000 = 10 in the us
if you dont want to get misunderstood: 10000 = 10k = 10^4
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Iron Wraith
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Posted - 2008.01.24 13:01:00 -
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why restrict it to only solo runners?
i'm assuming your safe in station so war decs arnt an issue
i'm also assuming that you get the same cut of the LP as you do of the standings. so would 25% of a mission reward not give you 25% of the standing reward if you joined a 3 man fleet to make it a 4 man fleet?
i'm just wondering if you'd get your standing faster by opening the doors a bit wider, maybe even to lvl1 and 2 mission runners.
if the isk to lp to standing ratio is constant then any lp you buy will have a matching amount of standing.
of course standings are based on a % difference from perfect 10.0 standing to what you have now, a bit like resistances. i'm guessing this is why you need a large enough chunk of lp to make the standings worth it.
it is a good idea for mission runners who would prefer to have the iskies over the standings and lp. just interested in why its not worth you taking on lvl1 and 2 missions and larger fleets. Because sometimes you just have to go back to your roots: [2005.02.20 01:08:03] (combat) Your Civilian Light Electron Blaster perfectly strikes Serpentis Smuggler, wrecking for 20.3 damage. |
Steeel Rod
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Posted - 2008.01.24 14:41:00 -
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Originally by: Cameron Vayle While this might sound good on the surface there is a small thing that you are not telling people. Not only you profit by getting half the LP from the mission, you get half the reward AND standing with not only the agent that the mission is done for but the corp that the agent belongs to.
You speak of 10 million ISK for a level 4. Ok..but you fail, as I stated above, to mention that you get more than the LP's
So you do a level 4, sell you the LP's for 10 million isk...lose 2 million in rewards from the agent and lose part of your standing gain that you will be using, from the corps I see that you have selected, to run R&D missions.
How cheesy.....
I never intended to hide or mislead anything. I don't really want the LPs for anything. I want to do this for the standings increase to increase my R&D agents. The LPs are the only REAL asset of value that a mission runner has for doing the missions. I was also assuming anyone doing level 4 missions already have high standings and so sharing that is no big deal. The higher they go the less of an increase they actually see and once you are doing the top agent, more standing is useless.
I used the 10k per LP as a price considering I get 2K back meaning the cost is 8k per LP which used to be in line with their value in buying stuff from the LP store. However this has all changed recently with the falling prices as most mission runners have already seen. So my price is actually over-valued.
I don't have any problem doing this with level 1 or 2 agents but i was assuming at that level, the gain the runners make in standings is more important to them and would not want to sell it. I am also fine with joining up in a 3 or 4 man gang and splitting the LP proportiantely with them as well. so if I am joined with 3 others then I would only be getting 25% and therefore pay will be adjusted accordingly.
We, as acorp, want to all increase so we can also anchor a POS in high sec so this is not just a 1 man 1 time deal. Anyone wanting to do this for us can expect up to 10 pilots wanting this. So if more than one of us is on and you want to sell more than 50%, then we can do it proportianetly as well.
I just didn't think I would need to go this deep in explaining all of this. When it comes down to do you want to run missions for these corps and sell your LPs. Time is money as the saying goes. |
Cergorach
Amarr The Helix Foundation
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Posted - 2008.01.24 14:59:00 -
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I have two pilots that might be interested in flying Lvl.3 Ishukone Corporation missions for you (each could run between 5-10 per hour). I would like to know when you are online (time and days of the week) so we can decide wether this is interesting for us to do or not. I also would like to know what kind of limit we are looking at before the money dries up. Forming gangs across regions isn't a problem I hope?
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Steeel Rod
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Posted - 2008.01.24 15:28:00 -
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Originally by: Cergorach I have two pilots that might be interested in flying Lvl.3 Ishukone Corporation missions for you (each could run between 5-10 per hour). I would like to know when you are online (time and days of the week) so we can decide wether this is interesting for us to do or not. I also would like to know what kind of limit we are looking at before the money dries up. Forming gangs across regions isn't a problem I hope?
Some of us are online now. I am off work the next 2 days so I will be on most of the time i am awake. As far as the limits, it all depends on how long it takes for each pilot to get to the top R&D agent. I don't know how long that will take and how many piloys will do it. After all the guy I stole this idea from got 11k LPs in the first night. But I am guessing with 8-10 of us that need this done, it could keep you busy for awhile. And no it is not a problem forming gangs across the universe.
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Sonicwall1
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Posted - 2008.01.24 18:08:00 -
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Works as he promises, 10k isk for 1 LP.
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Agif
Templar Republic R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.01.24 18:19:00 -
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Edited by: Agif on 24/01/2008 18:19:29
Originally by: Cameron Vayle While this might sound good on the surface there is a small thing that you are not telling people. Not only you profit by getting half the LP from the mission, you get half the reward AND standing with not only the agent that the mission is done for but the corp that the agent belongs to.
You speak of 10 million ISK for a level 4. Ok..but you fail, as I stated above, to mention that you get more than the LP's
So you do a level 4, sell you the LP's for 10 million isk...lose 2 million in rewards from the agent and lose part of your standing gain that you will be using, from the corps I see that you have selected, to run R&D missions.
How cheesy.....
STFU ?
I think its a great idea but i wud be sharing say 7,500 LP's from a possible 15,000
Now thats 7,500 x 10,000 = 75 Mil
for the sake of say 1.2% standings increase, and a split of the LP's oh and about 2 mil in Reward.
So i do 10 missions a day average of sharing 5,000 Lp's per mission = around 500 mil ...
How bigs ur wallet and if its enuff count me in :)
Edit : lai Dai's Best agent is Q17 lvl 4 and thus wud prob give 7,000 at most so 35 mil wud be the payment. Still good earnings thou. ---------------
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Steeel Rod
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Posted - 2008.01.24 18:24:00 -
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Originally by: Agif Edited by: Agif on 24/01/2008 18:19:29
Originally by: Cameron Vayle While this might sound good on the surface there is a small thing that you are not telling people. Not only you profit by getting half the LP from the mission, you get half the reward AND standing with not only the agent that the mission is done for but the corp that the agent belongs to.
You speak of 10 million ISK for a level 4. Ok..but you fail, as I stated above, to mention that you get more than the LP's
So you do a level 4, sell you the LP's for 10 million isk...lose 2 million in rewards from the agent and lose part of your standing gain that you will be using, from the corps I see that you have selected, to run R&D missions.
How cheesy.....
STFU ?
I think its a great idea but i wud be sharing say 7,500 LP's from a possible 15,000
Now thats 7,500 x 10,000 = 75 Mil
for the sake of say 1.2% standings increase, and a split of the LP's oh and about 2 mil in Reward.
So i do 10 missions a day average of sharing 5,000 Lp's per mission = around 500 mil ...
How bigs ur wallet and if its enuff count me in :)
Edit : lai Dai's Best agent is Q17 lvl 4 and thus wud prob give 7,000 at most so 35 mil wud be the payment. Still good earnings thou.
Let's try one and see, because i just completed a deal for 1100 LP and I got 2.2831 increase.
My pocket is deep enough to get me to the top R&D agent...
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Steeel Rod
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Posted - 2008.01.24 19:34:00 -
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Ok, peeps. Sorry that i missed a convo, I was getting lunch. So try and convo me but if i don't answer then evemail me plz. I didnt write down who convoed me and it disappeared when i accepted the convo.
This is working better than expected.
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Steeel Rod
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Posted - 2008.01.24 19:40:00 -
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Ok, peeps. To make this easier I have created a public channel called "LP Sales"
bop on in.
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Angel DeMorphis
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.01.24 19:58:00 -
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Originally by: Steeel Rod I never intended to hide or mislead anything. I don't really want the LPs for anything. I want to do this for the standings increase to increase my R&D agents.
No offense, but why didn't you just say so? People suspect foul play when something seems fishy. Many people pay to split missions for standing increase. Standing increase is their goal, that is what they are after. The rest of the rewards that come with it obviously come with it.
But when you formulate a post saying you only want to buy the LP specifically, it makes people very suspect. Because now you say your goal is the LP and the LP only, and your offering something that is much greater than the accepted value of LP. So people think several things: (1) What item in the LP store is he wanting the LP for? It must be something that sells very good if he's willing to pay so much for it. If so, I should do the research and sell it myself. (2) Is he planning some kind of high sec gank attempt? He asks for solo high-level mission runners that are likely to be flying T2 or even faction stuff. Perhaps he will come and just pawn me. (3) Well, use your imagination. I'm sure there are more things that might seem fishy to you here.
Also, let's add to the fact that there are skills that increase only an agent's LP payment, and not standing increase, etc. For example, Bureaucratic Connections is one such skill. Therefore, you are paying players with these skills trained up more per standing increase than players without these skills. In essence, if standings increase were what you were after, you are screwing yourself over, I would suspect, paying some more for the same standing increase than others.
Anyways, this whole thread would have come off much better if you were up front about paying mission runners for your goal of standing increase, and compensating them for the mission reward/LP you get. Just letting you know.
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