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Janna Cyris
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Posted - 2008.01.25 03:54:00 -
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At the moment I'm playing two accounts. I've heard form corpmates that they have as many as eight. So I'm looking at that 42,000 concurrent user mark and suspecting that we're still at 10k-20k players it's just that most people have upgraded to multiple accounts. That being said:
How many of you run multiple concurrent accounts or have multiple subscriptions?
I found the need for a second account to scout for myself in lowsec/0.0 the driving factor. Also I hear it's common to have a second account for salvaging/looting for mission runners. And finally I understand many users mine with one character and haul with an alt. On the one hand I'm happy that EVE is getting more money from all this, but on the other hand I can see how this also generates a heavier server load and decreases the quality of gameplay.
Then again, I sometimes find myself wondering if there is something wrong with EVE because it encourages people to have multiple accounts?
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Karyuudo Tydraad
Caldari
Whiskey Pete's Drycleaning Services
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Posted - 2008.01.25 03:56:00 -
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Only one account here. I get by fine.
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Ephemeron
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.25 03:58:00 -
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I'd imagine that only 15% of EVE has 2 accounts
then maybe 2% with 3 accounts and 1% with more than 3
But then there are also 1000s of chinese isk farmers, that aren't really individuals
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Dragos Mrs
Royal Hiigaran Navy
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Posted - 2008.01.25 03:59:00 -
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Edited by: Dragos Mrs on 25/01/2008 03:59:57
all mmo's reward you for having multiple accounts. anything you can do by yourself, but are more efficent using 2 people is going to attract people who use multiple accounts.
pvp or pve, even 5 min a day industrial alts, reward you for having multiple accounts. the only way a mmo could not be rewarding to have multiple accounts is if everything was a solo instance and you just had a chat window. but then it really wouldn't be an mmo :P
i have two accounts, i have an industrial alt that i use to make me money for more yarr! 
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Amarria Black
Clan Anthraxx
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Posted - 2008.01.25 04:03:00 -
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 Originally by: Dragos Mrs
Edited by: Dragos Mrs on 25/01/2008 03:59:57
all mmo's reward you for having multiple accounts. anything you can do by yourself, but are more efficent using 2 people is going to attract people who use multiple accounts.
pvp or pve, even 5 min a day industrial alts, reward you for having multiple accounts. the only way a mmo could not be rewarding to have multiple accounts is if everything was a solo instance and you just had a chat window. but then it really wouldn't be an mmo :P
i have two accounts, i have an industrial alt that i use to make me money for more yarr!
... or if gameplay was immersive and involved enough to require all of your attention on one account. Healbots / buffbots / hauler alts / cyno alts / etc. FTL.
Originally by: Frug
Your reputation has been entirely redeemed in my eyes. I now want your babies.
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Synical Light
Amarr
Star Frontiers
Blue Sun Trust
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Posted - 2008.01.25 04:03:00 -
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Originally by: Janna Cyris
At the moment I'm playing two accounts. I've heard form corpmates that they have as many as eight. So I'm looking at that 42,000 concurrent user mark and suspecting that we're still at 10k-20k players it's just that most people have upgraded to multiple accounts. That being said:
How many of you run multiple concurrent accounts or have multiple subscriptions?
I found the need for a second account to scout for myself in lowsec/0.0 the driving factor. Also I hear it's common to have a second account for salvaging/looting for mission runners. And finally I understand many users mine with one character and haul with an alt. On the one hand I'm happy that EVE is getting more money from all this, but on the other hand I can see how this also generates a heavier server load and decreases the quality of gameplay.
Then again, I sometimes find myself wondering if there is something wrong with EVE because it encourages people to have multiple accounts?
./end rant
I don't think this is a rant, and I don't think there is anything wrong with EVE because people can have more than one account.
I mean, you can have 2 WoW accounts if you want, but people don't because it's possible to "train" (*cough* grind *cough*) as many characters as you want.
I do however (as the above may have indicated) beleive that EVE has somewhat tripped up in that you can only train 1 skill at a time per account. This could be taken 2 ways.
The first: Skills in EVE train in "real-tim", so people could have 1-2 chars all training their abilities to "uber" levels while they fart around on their main.
And the second: CCP are greedy buggers who won't let you have more than one character (effectively anyway, no point in having someone sitting there not skilling) at a time so you have to pay more each month to enjoy mining, trading and PvP all at the same time.
Personally it doesn't worry me, because I couldn't be bothered with 2 characters.
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Prontifex
THE INTERNET.
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Posted - 2008.01.25 05:17:00 -
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Just the juan
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N.
Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.01.25 05:20:00 -
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Originally by: Synical Light
Originally by: Janna Cyris
At the moment I'm playing two accounts. I've heard form corpmates that they have as many as eight. So I'm looking at that 42,000 concurrent user mark and suspecting that we're still at 10k-20k players it's just that most people have upgraded to multiple accounts. That being said:
How many of you run multiple concurrent accounts or have multiple subscriptions?
I found the need for a second account to scout for myself in lowsec/0.0 the driving factor. Also I hear it's common to have a second account for salvaging/looting for mission runners. And finally I understand many users mine with one character and haul with an alt. On the one hand I'm happy that EVE is getting more money from all this, but on the other hand I can see how this also generates a heavier server load and decreases the quality of gameplay.
Then again, I sometimes find myself wondering if there is something wrong with EVE because it encourages people to have multiple accounts?
./end rant
I don't think this is a rant, and I don't think there is anything wrong with EVE because people can have more than one account.
I mean, you can have 2 WoW accounts if you want, but people don't because it's possible to "train" (*cough* grind *cough*) as many characters as you want.
I do however (as the above may have indicated) beleive that EVE has somewhat tripped up in that you can only train 1 skill at a time per account. This could be taken 2 ways.
The first: Skills in EVE train in "real-tim", so people could have 1-2 chars all training their abilities to "uber" levels while they fart around on their main.
And the second: CCP are greedy buggers who won't let you have more than one character (effectively anyway, no point in having someone sitting there not skilling) at a time so you have to pay more each month to enjoy mining, trading and PvP all at the same time.
Personally it doesn't worry me, because I couldn't be bothered with 2 characters.
Coorect me if I'm wrong, but is it not the case that you can't play more than one character on a WoW account at once? That being the case, only one character per account can skill at any given time, since you have to grind for XP?
So in fact WoW is less flexible than EvE, since EvE alts can be used will another character on the same account is actually skilling.
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ZerKar
Caldari
Zen'Tar
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Posted - 2008.01.25 05:23:00 -
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One for me. I abuse my Sla***...Uh...Corp Mates for all my other account needs  .
I also support Amarria Black's assertions 100%.
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Richard Phallus
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Posted - 2008.01.25 05:27:00 -
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Originally by: Amarria Black
... or if gameplay was immersive and involved enough to require all of your attention on one account.
So what do you suggest they do beside wait until everyone has holodecks. More clicking?!
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Spurty
Caldari
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.25 05:32:00 -
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2 accounts here and pretty much everyone one I know and have ever known in EVE has at least 1 alt and possibly a 3rd for the purposes of selling later on.
With a 2nd account, command skills are cheaper than faction mods and often better.
I have 2 monitors on my machine, so I can PVP on one and rat with the other or have them both PVP'ing / ratting.
Seeing as you are splitting the wealth between yourself, you lose nothing.
You also distribute liability of loss with two accounts.
With a second account, I ALWAYS have a scout if I cba to use one (Lately, I haven't and its showing up as lost isk rather than lost ibis's .. opps, but no more  )
The 'Power of 2' promotion must have upped the numbers as well.
Not that any of this speculation matters in the least.
40k of accounts logging in is 40k of resources being used.
Just think if all the players logged in at the same time. Cor, 40k is nothing. Good thing the World is Round and at least 25% of it is sleeping at any given moment.
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Richard Phallus
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Posted - 2008.01.25 05:35:00 -
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Run two accounts, fairly sure I'm going to use the 21day trial that steam gets and start a third 
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Maraude Fury
Minmatar
Shadow Of The Light
Scorched Earth Directive
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Posted - 2008.01.25 06:08:00 -
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Have 4, rarely use more then 2 at a time other then when useing cap ships and cyno alts.
Dictator: Scorched Earth Directive Alliance
Dictator: Shadow Of The Light Corp
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Sleazy P
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Posted - 2008.01.25 06:21:00 -
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Who says people in WoW don't have multiple accounts ?
5 Shamen, 1 Person
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Lord Evangelian
Gallente
LEAP Corp
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Posted - 2008.01.25 07:33:00 -
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I have 2. Lord 'n' Lady :) I get some wierd questions at times...like
*Lord and Lady in a mining op*
ME "Hey dude, wanna join my corporation"
New recruit "Ok, Btw are yous to boning"
ME "Good bye fine sir"
New Recruit "What i say..."
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Ch Tang
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Posted - 2008.01.25 09:22:00 -
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One account, but then my alts are buffed.
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Marcus Aurelius
Colossus Security Services
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Posted - 2008.01.25 09:22:00 -
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I've got two, (well, three, but one inactive), but rarely play them as multitasking operation.
The main reason for me to have more then one is the ability to be in more then one place at the same time.
It's nice to be able to log on second combat character is the other is stuck/too damn far away or doesn't fly the ship you need.
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Shameless Avenger
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Posted - 2008.01.25 09:33:00 -
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Two accounts here. The main character and an industrial alt. I didn't wanted to hold my main char's training to push industrial skills on it. But I rarely play with both at the same time. |
Marsman37X
Amarr
Alder Space Pioneers
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Posted - 2008.01.25 09:41:00 -
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Originally by: Karyuudo Tydraad
Only one account here. I get by fine.
Me too
Originally by: Tarminic
OH MY GOD WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?!
Crumplecorn's Sig's I <3's them
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Larg Kellein
Caldari
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2008.01.25 10:28:00 -
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I have 3 accounts, two for shooting one for invention and such.
You won't get a representative sample of the userbase by asking here, though. The kind of players who are likely to visit a game's official forums is the same kind more likely to have multiple accounts. It's a bit like going to a stadium asking if there are any football fans.
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Kwint Sommer
Incoherent Inc
Otaku Invasion
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Posted - 2008.01.25 10:49:00 -
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I have two accounts, both paid for using ISK -> game time cards.
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Cyclops43
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Posted - 2008.01.25 10:55:00 -
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4 accounts....
2 for 0.0 fighting (1 capital/bs pilot, 1 small-ship pilot)
1 empire industrial (build and haul stuff for the others)
1 empire mission runner (making all my money)
The mission runner would be in 0.0 too if CCP hadn't made high-sec mission running more profitable than any 0.0 activities..... 
For 0.0, running with only one account is pretty horrible. Apart from needing a scout once in a while to move, sometimes you get camped in for days, meaning you're completely unable to play.
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Xtreem
Gallente
Knockaround Guys Inc.
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.25 11:14:00 -
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2 accounts for me, cant be bothered with any more tbh
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Cpt Branko
The Bloody Red
Night's Dawn
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Posted - 2008.01.25 11:21:00 -
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One account and doing fine.
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TheJay
Amarr
Celestial Apocalypse
Insurgency
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Posted - 2008.01.25 11:34:00 -
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2 accounts.. one's a pvp *****, the other likes to mine
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Stork DK
Synthetic Frontiers
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Posted - 2008.01.25 11:35:00 -
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I have 4 accounts.
1 Gallente/Minmatar char
1 Caldari char
Those are the ones i only really use.
I love skiling up new chars for some reason so im breeding a specced gallente alt for pure combat and a freighter alt for selling when i cba to fly that silly slow freighter anymore.
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Kuolematon
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2008.01.25 11:36:00 -
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Classified .. don't wanna spoil the intel
It's great being Amarr isn't it.
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Grimm Myn
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2008.01.25 11:38:00 -
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Right now, only 1 account. Might look into having multiple accounts if i can pay for both with ISK but right now i have more than enough to do with only 1 account.
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Commander Jamieson
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Posted - 2008.01.25 11:57:00 -
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Edited by: Commander Jamieson on 25/01/2008 11:57:31
Only one account here, with two characters on. one is my main and the other is a looser...., I mean alt 
Edit: -HMMM - seems the alt has took over and posted on his own - sorry about that
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2008.01.25 12:11:00 -
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Edited by: Akita T on 25/01/2008 12:12:44
I finally gave in to the dark side and created a second (combat-centric) account a bit less than 10 months ago, to complement my "jack of all trades" main (this one).
To be honest, I haven't been using the alt much, and I was even pondering selling it a few months ago.
But then again, selling/buying characters is not my style, so I rather let it slide into suspension with a long skill.
Right now, my second account is in a hiatus, training (of all things) Marauders to L5
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Andrue
Amarr
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Posted - 2008.01.25 13:21:00 -
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Two is fairly common in my experience. At least amongst those in player corps. This is because a second account lets you have one char in 0.0 for fun and another in Empire for money.
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Ewina Acoma
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Posted - 2008.01.25 15:42:00 -
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I used two accounts, just because everything is easier in gang.
One haul and the second mine,
one use guns and the second use drones,
one refine and the second produce.
Just too many thing to try for one account.
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Janna Cyris
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Posted - 2008.01.25 15:46:00 -
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So far by my count that's 8 people running single accounts out of about 30 responders. Seems it's true then EVE is a 30$ a month and up game 
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Concordokken Plox
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Posted - 2008.01.25 15:50:00 -
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Edited by: Concordokken Plox on 25/01/2008 15:50:13
6 accounts
1 industrial / mission runner
1 pvper
4 characters being trained up to sell for isk
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Riho
Mercenary Forces
Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2008.01.25 15:50:00 -
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3 accounts
1 pvp main
2x industrials (invention takes alot of effort to make the really big isk)
tho my other 2 alts can defend themselves just fine if i take them to pvp (one has a carrier and other is high spec amarr pilot whit all the good stuff)
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Merakys
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2008.01.25 15:58:00 -
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In the past I've run 2 accounts. At the moment just one, but I will be reactivating the second account in the near future for an industrial/salvage/hauling alt.
IMO EVE encourages this far more than most other MMOs... because it's simply so difficult to experience more than 1 aspect of the game from a single character, unless maybe you're someone who's been around non-stop since day 1.
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James Swindle
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.01.25 16:03:00 -
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Personally i think alts suck...any kind of meta gaming FTL. In my perfect world CCP would only allowed 1 account per computer/ISP or whatever they can think of to stop people.
But thats just me.
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Janu Hull
Caldari
Terra Incognita
Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2008.01.25 16:25:00 -
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Two accounts.
One combat toon training towards capital ships. The second started as a mining/industrial alt now capable of flying Stealth Bombers. I'm scrambling a bit on him to bring his weapon skills up to speed so he can use the Manticore properly.
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Concordokken Plox
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Posted - 2008.01.25 16:26:00 -
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Originally by: James Swindle
Personally i think alts suck...any kind of meta gaming FTL. In my perfect world CCP would only allowed 1 account per computer/ISP or whatever they can think of to stop people.
But thats just me.
They'd be losing money 
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Mistress Evita
Caldari
Booze and Hookers
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Posted - 2008.01.25 16:37:00 -
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I have three accounts. Two are for PvP and one is the scout/mission runner. I have two computers setup on desk and always have two accounts running when playing the game.
Every MMO I have played (SWG, WoW, Eve, etc) encourages people to have multiple accounts.
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Angel DeMorphis
Gallente
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Posted - 2008.01.25 16:48:00 -
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Proud to say I only have one account. I like to play this game like a real person, rather than like a god controlling multiple pawns, tbh. Do I suffer much? Not really. When I need a hauler, I mine with someone in my alliance. When I need a scout, a friend in my alliance is always willing to jump a couple gates for me (we're tight like that). When I need a mission running alt in high sec to make some fast ISK... I clone jump.
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N.
Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.01.25 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: Concordokken Plox
Edited by: Concordokken Plox on 25/01/2008 15:50:13
6 accounts
1 industrial / mission runner
1 pvper
4 characters being trained up to sell for isk
Out of interest, how well do you expect this to pay off for you compared to just selling GTCs?
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N1fty
Amarr
Galactic Shipyards Inc
HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2008.01.25 17:31:00 -
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Edited by: N1fty on 25/01/2008 17:32:47
Originally by: Ephemeron
I'd imagine that only 15% of EVE has 2 accounts
then maybe 2% with 3 accounts and 1% with more than 3
But then there are also 1000s of chinese isk farmers, that aren't really individuals
Thats a subtle ***** at communism isnt it?
EDIT: Why can't I say cr/\ck?! Thats a perfectly legitimate word to be using and on its own is completely inoffensive!
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Tammarr
Trident RMBK
Rough Necks
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Posted - 2008.01.25 18:02:00 -
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You'll probably have bias here on eve-o towards many accounts also. Simply due to the fact that people who are active and like the game enough to have multiples are more likely to visit the forums and post =)
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Billy Sastard
Amarr
Life. Universe. Everything.
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Posted - 2008.01.25 18:14:00 -
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I had 4 at one time, but have cut back to just 1 for now, as all i seem to do anymore is log in to check my market activitys and chat with corpmates, and I can accomplish all this with the 1 trader account.
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Ulstan
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Posted - 2008.01.25 18:53:00 -
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Quote:
In my perfect world CCP would only allowed 1 account per computer/ISP
That would obviously never work. CCP has no way to distinguish between one guy playing two accounts and a husband/wife or two brother or two roommates playing two accounts.
I have two accounts. Some things are just far too damn boring to devote ones entire attention to. And of course, there's scouting in low sec/0.0, which is basically mandatory.
It's not so much that I need two accounts to get by, as I need two accounts to feel sufficiently 'busy'. There is so much waiting in EVE with just one account.
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Ryan Scouse'UK
omen.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.25 19:16:00 -
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3 accounts
1 = main fully gallente / spec / all race tech 1 spec / co ops / recons / commandships/ pretty much everything 9m guns
second is a carrier alt / drone *****.
3. is a isk making alt which is fully cal spec & has not even been used still in training.
lols
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Major Stallion
Dragons Of Redemption
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.01.25 19:28:00 -
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Originally by: Ephemeron
I'd imagine that only 15% of EVE has 2 accounts
then maybe 2% with 3 accounts and 1% with more than 3
But then there are also 1000s of chinese isk farmers, that aren't really individuals
60% of all statistics like this are made up...
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Janna Cyris
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Posted - 2008.01.25 20:37:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Major Stallion
Originally by: Ephemeron
I'd imagine that only 15% of EVE has 2 accounts
then maybe 2% with 3 accounts and 1% with more than 3
But then there are also 1000s of chinese isk farmers, that aren't really individuals
60% of all statistics like this are made up...
^___^ If I had a sig, this would be it.
But it does feel that 1 account = 1 character in eve. Which, for me, is a major drawback.
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Cpt Branko
The Bloody Red
Night's Dawn
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Posted - 2008.01.25 21:10:00 -
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Originally by: Angel DeMorphis
Proud to say I only have one account. I like to play this game like a real person, rather than like a god controlling multiple pawns, tbh. Do I suffer much? Not really. When I need a hauler, I mine with someone in my alliance. When I need a scout, a friend in my alliance is always willing to jump a couple gates for me (we're tight like that). When I need a mission running alt in high sec to make some fast ISK... I clone jump.
This.
I think people who fund themselves by mission-running high-sec alts kindof suck at what they do.
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Concordokken Plox
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Posted - 2008.01.27 19:45:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Malcanis
Originally by: Concordokken Plox
Edited by: Concordokken Plox on 25/01/2008 15:50:13
6 accounts
1 industrial / mission runner
1 pvper
4 characters being trained up to sell for isk
Out of interest, how well do you expect this to pay off for you compared to just selling GTCs?
I have no idea to be honest. Since the market seems to fluctuate all the time. I expect to get around 3-4b per character (selling at around 20m sp). Since I can't really afford GTCs, there's not alternative (I pay with isk from missions ). Oh, and 90 day GTCs have best isk -> time ratio
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