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Ral Ulgur
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.02.03 14:27:00 -
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I quite excited about the upcoming patch boosting some of the underpowered ships and thank CCP for releasing a dev blog on that matter. (Can't comment on the deimos issue though...
However, to me Amarr feels incomplete without it's missing t1 astrometrics frigate. I really hope it is in the works!
Should it be released it would finally be possible to base all the cover ops ships on their proper astrometrics t1 counterpart (except the buzzards, it's already based on the astrometrics heron)...
The day that comes I'll open my e-bottle of champagne!
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Nova Fox
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Posted - 2008.02.03 14:45:00 -
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Would love to see the not as fancy maganate ( a non-silver and non-golden one) to perform the astrometrics duties.
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Lothros Andastar
Gallente The Beer Barons
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Posted - 2008.02.03 15:15:00 -
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Originally by: Nova Fox Would love to see the not as fancy maganate ( a non-silver and non-golden one) to perform the astrometrics duties.
/signed
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Hannobaal
Gallente Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.03 15:19:00 -
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Edited by: Hannobaal on 03/02/2008 15:19:17 I never understood why they neglected to give Amarr that 5th frigate. In everything else, everyone has the exact same number of ships.
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.02.03 15:23:00 -
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Originally by: Hannobaal Edited by: Hannobaal on 03/02/2008 15:19:17 I never understood why they neglected to give Amarr that 5th frigate. In everything else, everyone has the exact same number of ships.
By now, I think it's some kind of dev in-joke.
Amarr didn't want that 5th frigate anyway.
CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that. |

Verone
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.02.03 15:27:00 -
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Edited by: Verone on 03/02/2008 15:27:36
Originally by: Nova Fox Would love to see the not as fancy maganate ( a non-silver and non-golden one) to perform the astrometrics duties.
This would actually be a sweet idea... a standard magnate without the Silver or Gold prefix and crappier stats so it's inline with rest of the T1 frigs.
Nice thinking 
>>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW - EVE FICTION <<<
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Nova Fox
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Posted - 2008.02.03 15:59:00 -
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make it comparable to the other astrometrics frigs, and replace covert op frigate model with it reskinned.
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Alyth
Gallente Dichotomy
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Posted - 2008.02.03 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: Nova Fox make it comparable to the other astrometrics frigs, and replace covert op frigate model with it reskinned.
So you mean you don't want the beta era rocking horse frigate they used to have? Magnate would look sexier though.... -------------------------------------------
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Ricardo Phallus
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Posted - 2008.02.03 17:06:00 -
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In a recent dev blog CCP devs have decided to address the concerns over the fact that the Amarr have one fewer frigate class ships available in game. In an upcoming patch the other three races will each have one frigate removed. |

Joe Starbreaker
Starbreaker Spaceways
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Posted - 2008.02.03 17:09:00 -
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magnate?
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ghosttr
Amarr ARK-CORP RONA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.03 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Nova Fox Would love to see the not as fancy maganate ( a non-silver and non-golden one) to perform the astrometrics duties.
I think the magnate would be more suited to being the ecm frigate, and have the t2 version be the eas frigate.
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adriaans
Amarr Advanced Capital Ship Designs Hephaestus Rising
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Posted - 2008.02.03 18:36:00 -
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nah...we want 1 Battleship or commandship more than other races
on a more serious note: /signed -sig-
Support the introduction of Blaze M crystals for Amarr! (Or make Amarr the only race able to deal EM damage from turrets).
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Verx Interis
Amarr Aurora Security The Cyrene Initiative
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Posted - 2008.02.03 18:48:00 -
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Originally by: Ricardo Phallus In a recent dev blog CCP devs have decided to address the concerns over the fact that the Amarr have one fewer frigate class ships available in game. In an upcoming patch the other three races will each have one frigate removed.
That better not happen. I don't believe you. -----sig-starts-here------
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Ricardo Phallus
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Posted - 2008.02.03 18:52:00 -
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Originally by: Verx Interis That better not happen. I don't believe you.
Decided at random no less.
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Ral Ulgur
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.02.03 20:02:00 -
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I like the idea of using the Magnate model for the missing Amarr astrometrics frigate. My only concern is that it looks "too gank" for an astrometrics vessel. A golden rod with antennas and a token laser would do just fine (seriously!)
At Ricardo: I loled :P
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.03 20:59:00 -
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I can support the magnate being the Astrometrics Frigate....but only if it gets re-named to something with Tyrrax in it.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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ghosttr
Amarr ARK-CORP RONA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.03 21:09:00 -
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Originally by: Ral Ulgur I like the idea of using the Magnate model for the missing Amarr astrometrics frigate. My only concern is that it looks "too gank" for an astrometrics vessel. A golden rod with antennas and a token laser would do just fine (seriously!)
At Ricardo: I loled :P
It should be the ecm frigate, and the crucifier should be changed to the astro frig.
I think a eas magnate would look mean
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2008.02.03 21:19:00 -
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Edited by: Imperator Jora''h on 03/02/2008 21:21:08
Originally by: Joe Starbreaker magnate?
There was only one Gold Magnate in the game given as a prize and it got blown up long ago. Not sure what the scoop is on the Silver Magnate.
Here are some screenshots. Was a good looking ship (and here is the Silver Magnate).
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.03 21:23:00 -
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Edited by: An Anarchyyt on 03/02/2008 21:23:43 I can't remember how many Silver Magnates there were, four or five? But I'm pretty sure most of them still exist.
They were given out the same time as the Gold one.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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Ursula LeGuinn
Versus Gloria Omnis
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Posted - 2008.02.03 21:45:00 -
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Here are two Trinity pics of a Silver Magnate.
I also would like it if the Magnate hull made it into common usage, because I think it looks a right treat, but that probably won't happen. It would cheapen the value of those special prizes somewhat.
Still, I think it's a shame that a perfectly good ship model almost never sees the outside of a hangar, let alone actual USE. It's almost as though it doesn't exist... I could tape a transparent sheet of plastic with the Magnate printed on it to my computer monitor and get basically the same effect as the people who actually own one.  ________________
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Nova Fox
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Posted - 2008.02.03 22:36:00 -
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Im sure the 1000s of megathrons do not cheapen the value of the one and only fedrathron.
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Zeba
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.02.03 22:38:00 -
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/signed
Originally by: Nice Guy This means that the writer epicaly fails at english.
Irony. So delicious. |

Jones Maloy
Minmatar Unified Naval Command
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Posted - 2008.02.05 05:26:00 -
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i don't care what you guys say, it has to be named the "Shark". why?
Sharks with frikin laser beams
--- Originally by: Kagura Nikon .......That is why I started an alt to be completely specced in ammar. Because eventually CCP will buff it......
rofl p.s. I fly Amarr and they blow. |

Triath Lon
Keepers of Balance Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2008.02.05 05:36:00 -
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Edited by: Triath Lon on 05/02/2008 05:38:30 I would like to request 3 more industrials, please. Damn gallente have 5.
Edit: yep, those 3 more industrials per race are just as pointless, but if people demand that all factions have everything else the same, i'd like to see my industrials first, please. ________
Arazu - when you, eventually, lock me - you'll shoot me. Pilgrim - you can lock me, just can't hit me. Falcon - if i'm lucky... |

Ursula LeGuinn
Versus Gloria Omnis
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Posted - 2008.02.05 07:07:00 -
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Edited by: Ursula LeGuinn on 05/02/2008 07:09:11
Oh, I thought there were only two T1 industrials, the Mammoth and the Bestower (for hauler alts or Amarr purists).
Only ones that are worth using, anyway... unless you want a green space pencil with slightly more cargo, 5x the training time initially, and worse stats everywhere else.  ________________
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Ral Ulgur
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.02.05 07:24:00 -
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Originally by: Triath Lon Edited by: Triath Lon on 05/02/2008 05:38:30 I would like to request 3 more industrials, please. Damn gallente have 5.
Edit: yep, those 3 more industrials per race are just as pointless, but if people demand that all factions have everything else the same, i'd like to see my industrials first, please.
Sir, if I read you right you mean to impy that adding the missing astrometrics frigate would be pointless. To this I would have to object: t1 astrometrics frigates are essential to starting players who want to do exploration. In view of all the fancy stuff you can train, the time it takes to train for a covert ops may seem quite staggering to the new player. Also, later on, a t1 astrometrics frig provides a cheap covert ops alternative (for scanning purposes).
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.02.05 07:55:00 -
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with the missing frigate you can say goodbye to a tech 2 frigate for all of the races 6th frig.
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Lori Carlyle
Vengeance 8 Interceptors
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Posted - 2008.02.05 08:14:00 -
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Originally by: Ral Ulgur
Originally by: Triath Lon Edited by: Triath Lon on 05/02/2008 05:38:30 I would like to request 3 more industrials, please. Damn gallente have 5.
Edit: yep, those 3 more industrials per race are just as pointless, but if people demand that all factions have everything else the same, i'd like to see my industrials first, please.
Sir, if I read you right you mean to impy that adding the missing astrometrics frigate would be pointless. To this I would have to object: t1 astrometrics frigates are essential to starting players who want to do exploration. In view of all the fancy stuff you can train, the time it takes to train for a covert ops may seem quite staggering to the new player. Also, later on, a t1 astrometrics frig provides a cheap covert ops alternative (for scanning purposes).
While I agree with both of you, Caldari are 3 indys short and amarr are 1 friggy short, I'm sure there are other races that have X more ship type then X race.
If there going to add the amarr frig, then whats the logic of not giving caldari another 3 indys to bring them into line, or adding more ships just to give all races the same ammount of ships in each subclass.
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Triath Lon
Keepers of Balance Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2008.02.05 08:20:00 -
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Edited by: Triath Lon on 05/02/2008 08:21:31
Originally by: Ursula LeGuinn Edited by: Ursula LeGuinn on 05/02/2008 07:09:11
Oh, I thought there were only two T1 industrials, the Mammoth and the Bestower (for hauler alts or Amarr purists).
Only ones that are worth using, anyway... unless you want a green space pencil with slightly more cargo, 5x the training time initially, and worse stats everywhere else. 
It's really not a matter of "want", it's that if every race should have everything the very same way, i'd prefer to see industrials added in first. Not that i care much for em, but if we are going to paint everything blue, why not really paint it blue.
Let us not be racist, let us all fly the very same damn ships!
Edit: can't turn sarcasm off... there's got to be a way!
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Nicholas Barker
MASS Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service
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Posted - 2008.02.05 09:03:00 -
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nm found it in the archieve.
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