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Ral Ulgur
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.02.03 14:27:00 -
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I quite excited about the upcoming patch boosting some of the underpowered ships and thank CCP for releasing a dev blog on that matter. (Can't comment on the deimos issue though...
However, to me Amarr feels incomplete without it's missing t1 astrometrics frigate. I really hope it is in the works!
Should it be released it would finally be possible to base all the cover ops ships on their proper astrometrics t1 counterpart (except the buzzards, it's already based on the astrometrics heron)...
The day that comes I'll open my e-bottle of champagne!
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Nova Fox
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Posted - 2008.02.03 14:45:00 -
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Would love to see the not as fancy maganate ( a non-silver and non-golden one) to perform the astrometrics duties.
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Lothros Andastar
Gallente The Beer Barons
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Posted - 2008.02.03 15:15:00 -
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Originally by: Nova Fox Would love to see the not as fancy maganate ( a non-silver and non-golden one) to perform the astrometrics duties.
/signed
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Hannobaal
Gallente Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.03 15:19:00 -
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Edited by: Hannobaal on 03/02/2008 15:19:17 I never understood why they neglected to give Amarr that 5th frigate. In everything else, everyone has the exact same number of ships.
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Malcanis
R.E.C.O.N. Black-Out
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Posted - 2008.02.03 15:23:00 -
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Originally by: Hannobaal Edited by: Hannobaal on 03/02/2008 15:19:17 I never understood why they neglected to give Amarr that 5th frigate. In everything else, everyone has the exact same number of ships.
By now, I think it's some kind of dev in-joke.
Amarr didn't want that 5th frigate anyway.
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Verone
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2008.02.03 15:27:00 -
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Edited by: Verone on 03/02/2008 15:27:36
Originally by: Nova Fox Would love to see the not as fancy maganate ( a non-silver and non-golden one) to perform the astrometrics duties.
This would actually be a sweet idea... a standard magnate without the Silver or Gold prefix and crappier stats so it's inline with rest of the T1 frigs.
Nice thinking
>>> THE LIFE OF AN OUTLAW - EVE FICTION <<<
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Nova Fox
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Posted - 2008.02.03 15:59:00 -
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make it comparable to the other astrometrics frigs, and replace covert op frigate model with it reskinned.
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Alyth
Gallente Dichotomy
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Posted - 2008.02.03 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: Nova Fox make it comparable to the other astrometrics frigs, and replace covert op frigate model with it reskinned.
So you mean you don't want the beta era rocking horse frigate they used to have? Magnate would look sexier though.... -------------------------------------------
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Ricardo Phallus
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Posted - 2008.02.03 17:06:00 -
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In a recent dev blog CCP devs have decided to address the concerns over the fact that the Amarr have one fewer frigate class ships available in game. In an upcoming patch the other three races will each have one frigate removed. |
Joe Starbreaker
Starbreaker Spaceways
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Posted - 2008.02.03 17:09:00 -
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magnate?
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ghosttr
Amarr ARK-CORP RONA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.03 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Nova Fox Would love to see the not as fancy maganate ( a non-silver and non-golden one) to perform the astrometrics duties.
I think the magnate would be more suited to being the ecm frigate, and have the t2 version be the eas frigate.
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adriaans
Amarr Advanced Capital Ship Designs Hephaestus Rising
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Posted - 2008.02.03 18:36:00 -
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nah...we want 1 Battleship or commandship more than other races
on a more serious note: /signed -sig-
Support the introduction of Blaze M crystals for Amarr! (Or make Amarr the only race able to deal EM damage from turrets).
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Verx Interis
Amarr Aurora Security The Cyrene Initiative
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Posted - 2008.02.03 18:48:00 -
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Originally by: Ricardo Phallus In a recent dev blog CCP devs have decided to address the concerns over the fact that the Amarr have one fewer frigate class ships available in game. In an upcoming patch the other three races will each have one frigate removed.
That better not happen. I don't believe you. -----sig-starts-here------
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Ricardo Phallus
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Posted - 2008.02.03 18:52:00 -
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Originally by: Verx Interis That better not happen. I don't believe you.
Decided at random no less.
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Ral Ulgur
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.02.03 20:02:00 -
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I like the idea of using the Magnate model for the missing Amarr astrometrics frigate. My only concern is that it looks "too gank" for an astrometrics vessel. A golden rod with antennas and a token laser would do just fine (seriously!)
At Ricardo: I loled :P
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.03 20:59:00 -
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I can support the magnate being the Astrometrics Frigate....but only if it gets re-named to something with Tyrrax in it.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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ghosttr
Amarr ARK-CORP RONA Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.03 21:09:00 -
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Originally by: Ral Ulgur I like the idea of using the Magnate model for the missing Amarr astrometrics frigate. My only concern is that it looks "too gank" for an astrometrics vessel. A golden rod with antennas and a token laser would do just fine (seriously!)
At Ricardo: I loled :P
It should be the ecm frigate, and the crucifier should be changed to the astro frig.
I think a eas magnate would look mean
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2008.02.03 21:19:00 -
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Edited by: Imperator Jora''h on 03/02/2008 21:21:08
Originally by: Joe Starbreaker magnate?
There was only one Gold Magnate in the game given as a prize and it got blown up long ago. Not sure what the scoop is on the Silver Magnate.
Here are some screenshots. Was a good looking ship (and here is the Silver Magnate).
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2008.02.03 21:23:00 -
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Edited by: An Anarchyyt on 03/02/2008 21:23:43 I can't remember how many Silver Magnates there were, four or five? But I'm pretty sure most of them still exist.
They were given out the same time as the Gold one.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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Ursula LeGuinn
Versus Gloria Omnis
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Posted - 2008.02.03 21:45:00 -
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Here are two Trinity pics of a Silver Magnate.
I also would like it if the Magnate hull made it into common usage, because I think it looks a right treat, but that probably won't happen. It would cheapen the value of those special prizes somewhat.
Still, I think it's a shame that a perfectly good ship model almost never sees the outside of a hangar, let alone actual USE. It's almost as though it doesn't exist... I could tape a transparent sheet of plastic with the Magnate printed on it to my computer monitor and get basically the same effect as the people who actually own one. ________________
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Nova Fox
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Posted - 2008.02.03 22:36:00 -
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Im sure the 1000s of megathrons do not cheapen the value of the one and only fedrathron.
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Zeba
Minmatar Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2008.02.03 22:38:00 -
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/signed
Originally by: Nice Guy This means that the writer epicaly fails at english.
Irony. So delicious. |
Jones Maloy
Minmatar Unified Naval Command
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Posted - 2008.02.05 05:26:00 -
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i don't care what you guys say, it has to be named the "Shark". why?
Sharks with frikin laser beams
--- Originally by: Kagura Nikon .......That is why I started an alt to be completely specced in ammar. Because eventually CCP will buff it......
rofl p.s. I fly Amarr and they blow. |
Triath Lon
Keepers of Balance Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2008.02.05 05:36:00 -
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Edited by: Triath Lon on 05/02/2008 05:38:30 I would like to request 3 more industrials, please. Damn gallente have 5.
Edit: yep, those 3 more industrials per race are just as pointless, but if people demand that all factions have everything else the same, i'd like to see my industrials first, please. ________
Arazu - when you, eventually, lock me - you'll shoot me. Pilgrim - you can lock me, just can't hit me. Falcon - if i'm lucky... |
Ursula LeGuinn
Versus Gloria Omnis
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Posted - 2008.02.05 07:07:00 -
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Edited by: Ursula LeGuinn on 05/02/2008 07:09:11
Oh, I thought there were only two T1 industrials, the Mammoth and the Bestower (for hauler alts or Amarr purists).
Only ones that are worth using, anyway... unless you want a green space pencil with slightly more cargo, 5x the training time initially, and worse stats everywhere else. ________________
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Ral Ulgur
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.02.05 07:24:00 -
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Originally by: Triath Lon Edited by: Triath Lon on 05/02/2008 05:38:30 I would like to request 3 more industrials, please. Damn gallente have 5.
Edit: yep, those 3 more industrials per race are just as pointless, but if people demand that all factions have everything else the same, i'd like to see my industrials first, please.
Sir, if I read you right you mean to impy that adding the missing astrometrics frigate would be pointless. To this I would have to object: t1 astrometrics frigates are essential to starting players who want to do exploration. In view of all the fancy stuff you can train, the time it takes to train for a covert ops may seem quite staggering to the new player. Also, later on, a t1 astrometrics frig provides a cheap covert ops alternative (for scanning purposes).
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.02.05 07:55:00 -
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with the missing frigate you can say goodbye to a tech 2 frigate for all of the races 6th frig.
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Lori Carlyle
Vengeance 8 Interceptors
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Posted - 2008.02.05 08:14:00 -
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Originally by: Ral Ulgur
Originally by: Triath Lon Edited by: Triath Lon on 05/02/2008 05:38:30 I would like to request 3 more industrials, please. Damn gallente have 5.
Edit: yep, those 3 more industrials per race are just as pointless, but if people demand that all factions have everything else the same, i'd like to see my industrials first, please.
Sir, if I read you right you mean to impy that adding the missing astrometrics frigate would be pointless. To this I would have to object: t1 astrometrics frigates are essential to starting players who want to do exploration. In view of all the fancy stuff you can train, the time it takes to train for a covert ops may seem quite staggering to the new player. Also, later on, a t1 astrometrics frig provides a cheap covert ops alternative (for scanning purposes).
While I agree with both of you, Caldari are 3 indys short and amarr are 1 friggy short, I'm sure there are other races that have X more ship type then X race.
If there going to add the amarr frig, then whats the logic of not giving caldari another 3 indys to bring them into line, or adding more ships just to give all races the same ammount of ships in each subclass.
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Triath Lon
Keepers of Balance Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2008.02.05 08:20:00 -
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Edited by: Triath Lon on 05/02/2008 08:21:31
Originally by: Ursula LeGuinn Edited by: Ursula LeGuinn on 05/02/2008 07:09:11
Oh, I thought there were only two T1 industrials, the Mammoth and the Bestower (for hauler alts or Amarr purists).
Only ones that are worth using, anyway... unless you want a green space pencil with slightly more cargo, 5x the training time initially, and worse stats everywhere else.
It's really not a matter of "want", it's that if every race should have everything the very same way, i'd prefer to see industrials added in first. Not that i care much for em, but if we are going to paint everything blue, why not really paint it blue.
Let us not be racist, let us all fly the very same damn ships!
Edit: can't turn sarcasm off... there's got to be a way!
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Nicholas Barker
MASS Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service
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Posted - 2008.02.05 09:03:00 -
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nm found it in the archieve.
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ghost st
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Posted - 2008.02.05 09:52:00 -
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Originally by: Lori Carlyle
Originally by: Ral Ulgur
Originally by: Triath Lon Edited by: Triath Lon on 05/02/2008 05:38:30 I would like to request 3 more industrials, please. Damn gallente have 5.
Edit: yep, those 3 more industrials per race are just as pointless, but if people demand that all factions have everything else the same, i'd like to see my industrials first, please.
Sir, if I read you right you mean to impy that adding the missing astrometrics frigate would be pointless. To this I would have to object: t1 astrometrics frigates are essential to starting players who want to do exploration. In view of all the fancy stuff you can train, the time it takes to train for a covert ops may seem quite staggering to the new player. Also, later on, a t1 astrometrics frig provides a cheap covert ops alternative (for scanning purposes).
While I agree with both of you, Caldari are 3 indys short and amarr are 1 friggy short, I'm sure there are other races that have X more ship type then X race.
If there going to add the amarr frig, then whats the logic of not giving caldari another 3 indys to bring them into line, or adding more ships just to give all races the same ammount of ships in each subclass.
The point is that anybody that is just starting out and wanting to try exploration will have to choose another race if they want a ship with any bonuses to exploration. There are few enough amarr pilots as it is, we dont need to give new players any more incentive to just train another race
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Nova Fox
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Posted - 2008.02.05 13:13:00 -
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Industrials is the only real odd balled class of ships out there, ever other class of ships and race have the same exact number cept for the missing amarr astrometrics frigate, it almost seems as if they forgot to add the ship to the game.
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Raneru
Darwin With Attitude oooh Shiny
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Posted - 2008.02.05 13:18:00 -
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/signed.
After all, whats the point of retexturing the gold/silver magnate for trinity if only ~10 people get to use one?
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Nova Fox
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Posted - 2008.02.05 13:27:00 -
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let alone ever see one in the first place.
to bad yacts arent available yet either.
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Seeing EyeDog
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Posted - 2008.02.05 13:33:00 -
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Missing Amarr Frigate Found!!! _____________________
Originally by: Locus Bey Intelligence isn't a prequisite for being a Goon, in fact its a deficit.
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Delichon
Caldari The First Foundation Stella Polar
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Posted - 2008.02.05 13:36:00 -
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Originally by: Seeing EyeDog Missing Amarr Frigate Found!!!
I find the lack of rick-roll in this post disturbing :( ------------------------------------------ All nerfs are meant to hurt you personally. Next time they are going to nerf you directly. Eve Forums. |
Ral Ulgur
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2008.02.05 18:32:00 -
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Originally by: Lori Carlyle
Originally by: Ral Ulgur
Originally by: Triath Lon Edited by: Triath Lon on 05/02/2008 05:38:30 *Not every race has the same number of industrials
*True, but Amarr frig has some importance
While I agree with both of you, Caldari are 3 indys short and amarr are 1 friggy short, I'm sure there are other races that have X more ship type then X race.
If there going to add the amarr frig, then whats the logic of not giving caldari another 3 indys to bring them into line, or adding more ships just to give all races the same ammount of ships in each subclass.
I wouldn't mind having all races have 5 industrials. I would like it even and endorse CCP to dedign cool new models for them.
At the same time I still think that the missing Amarr frig is much more important, gameplay wise and also designwise.
I stated the gameplay reasons for adding the Amarr frigate above, I don't think any race can complain about not having a hauler to get the job done (itty V is the best, but the others serve their purpose as well).
As for the design reasons, there is a clear line visible in the frigates design and you can quite easily classify them by the bonuses they recieve and by production cost. Amarr are lacking the one with astrometrics bonuses. For haulers there is no such distinction, they pretty much all get the same bonuses. Races other than Gallente lack 2 or 3 haulers that do the same as the 2 or 3 they already have.
But yes... give us haulers too... sexy ones :) (after adding the frig)
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F'nog
Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce
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Posted - 2008.02.05 20:40:00 -
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Originally by: Nicholas Barker nm found it in the archieve.
http://www.eve-online.com/screenshots/00072000/02n.jpg
Wow, I had forgotten how ugly that thing is.
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
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Nova Fox
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Posted - 2008.02.05 20:43:00 -
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ugly? that thing is beautiful, its almost an amarr sin to keep it hidden from everyone else.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2008.02.05 20:47:00 -
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Definitely /signed up for that. I love the idea of the Magnate being used as the base, although an entirely new model would be even better. ------
Originally by: Dark Shikari The problem with killing Jesus is he always just respawns 3 days later anyways. |
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Kyra Felann
Gallente Noir.
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Posted - 2008.02.05 21:34:00 -
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Admittedly I don't play Amarr and never plan to, but I kind of like the idea of differences in the races instead of necessarily having their own version of each ship. To be fair, though, the Amarr should get another ship to make up for it, I just don't know enough about the Amarr ship lineup to make any real comment.
In short, the more different the different races are, the better, IMO, as long as they're balanced.
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Nova Fox
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Posted - 2008.02.05 22:54:00 -
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First off the missing role ships doesnt fit the role play lore too well at all if anything it should be another race missing the explorer frigate instead of the amarr.
Sisters of Eve (an amarr related faction)- Explorers Amarr - First in Space would need astrometrics
The missing role ship doesnt make to much sense either considering concord manages to make sure everyone is playing on an even field. For example the caldari covert ops technology was forcibly distributed to the other races under a heavy fee for violating yulia convention.
Its like how all races have thier mining cruiser, and mining frigate.
The only example where this doesnt fit to well is the caldari battleship the scorpion, but other races are capable of fitting for electronic warfare just as devastating if they make the same sacrifices the scorpion does. Even so every race has 3 battleships instead of caldari having 4.
Also like mentioned before this lacking option forces players to take the excrutiating long patch to acheive amarr exploration. Its bad enough alot of pilots have to speen months on end deloping and trainign skills to be on par with other races. This is highly new player discouraging and still another poor design decision similar to having npcs and the sort default on overview while stargates arent.
So it would seem to me the argument it brings varitiy to the game fails from the story aspect and design consistency. This would actually increase variety as now i got 4 options of cheaper ended exploration instead of 3.
So theres my reasonings 4 strikes against missing frigate = variety argument, roleplay, new player experince, design aspects, & varitey itself.
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Triath Lon
Keepers of Balance Legion of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2008.02.06 04:48:00 -
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Ugh, you completely misunderstood what i was trying to say, which was:
don't give Amarr another frigate. don't give Caldari more industrials. don't chage Deimos (i like my glass cannon)
I want to see Gallente have more industrials, i want to see Minmatar speedtank their ships and outrun missiles, i want to see lasers doing enormous damage to shields...
I want to see 20 different way to fit a ship, and all of those be a "good way" to fit your ship. I want to be surprised by what was fitted on enemy ships, and not in "omg, shieldbooster and 1600 plated on that Vagabond" kind of way surprised.
Races should be different, interesting, exciting. ________
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F'nog
Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce
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Posted - 2008.02.06 05:50:00 -
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Originally by: Kyra Felann Admittedly I don't play Amarr and never plan to, but I kind of like the idea of differences in the races instead of necessarily having their own version of each ship. To be fair, though, the Amarr should get another ship to make up for it, I just don't know enough about the Amarr ship lineup to make any real comment.
In short, the more different the different races are, the better, IMO, as long as they're balanced.
I can agree that differences are good, but the Amarr should logically have the most ships. They're the biggest faction in the game, and one of the oldest, if not the oldest barring Jove. They should have tons of ship classes, even if they're old and outdated.
Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
F'nog for Amarr Emperor. Nuff said
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Blutreiter
Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2008.02.06 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Ursula LeGuinn Here are two Trinity pics of a Silver Magnate.
I also would like it if the Magnate hull made it into common usage, because I think it looks a right treat, but that probably won't happen. It would cheapen the value of those special prizes somewhat.
Still, I think it's a shame that a perfectly good ship model almost never sees the outside of a hangar, let alone actual USE. It's almost as though it doesn't exist... I could tape a transparent sheet of plastic with the Magnate printed on it to my computer monitor and get basically the same effect as the people who actually own one.
Want! Wantwantwantwant!
Okay. Who do I need to exchange body fluids with to get a basic version of this implemented as an Amarr Frigate?
*unzips*
Cogito ergo boom - I think i'll blow sh*t up
Originally by: CCP Explorer I know we have said this before, but this time we really mean itÖ
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Ladyah Liandri
Silver Eagles Imperium Aeternum
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Posted - 2008.02.06 11:37:00 -
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Be careful what you wish for!
Before Amarr gets another frig CCP will remove all other 5th frigs from the game to "keep Amarr inline with yada yada yada."
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Nova Fox
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Posted - 2008.02.06 13:46:00 -
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Still not a good reason why no to have an exploration frig, because story wise it doesnt make any senese the point that amarr are indeed the oldest and boldest ought to have far more various ships than the other races do.
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Rutoo
Gallente Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2008.02.06 13:46:00 -
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Originally by: An Anarchyyt Edited by: An Anarchyyt on 03/02/2008 21:23:43 I can't remember how many Silver Magnates there were, four or five? But I'm pretty sure most of them still exist.
They were given out the same time as the Gold one.
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Cpt Fina
Mutually Assured Distraction
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Posted - 2008.02.06 14:03:00 -
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Originally by: Nova Fox because story wise it doesnt make any senese the point that amarr are indeed the oldest and boldest ought to have far more various ships than the other races do.
Or maybe they've rationalized their fleet and taken away the ships that werenĘt cost-efficient to build or lacked any practical use that justified it.
Making gamebalance-arguments based on RP is bad, mkay.
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Nova Fox
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Posted - 2008.02.07 08:29:00 -
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In that case you just used a role play reason to justify the role play reason why they dont have it. Imo the amarr should have additional ships dedicated to exploration since they do have thier subfaction of explorers. (Sisterhood of Eve)
If you want to continue making roleplay adjustments or flavored per race ship amounts then why the gallente have too many gun ships? they should lose the other assault frigate and the demios.
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annoing
Amarr MisFunk Inc.
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Posted - 2008.02.07 08:59:00 -
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Edited by: annoing on 07/02/2008 09:00:23 The Devs treat Amarr as a kind of in-game joke.
I loved the new dev blog...oh yay! improving the Zealot with an extra high slot! whoopeefukingdoooo!! Unfortunately, what they give with one hand the steal with the other. The whole point of the boost, surely, was to improve the amarr ship... wrong. As they gave the improvement they boosted the other HACs so the amarr boost meant nothing. It didnt bring the Zealot onto a lvl playing field because, as usual with these muppets, they moved the posts again. Thx to the other race boosts, the Amarr still have the most w@nk ships in the game. Its all well for a dev to say that amarr can have the best yadda yadda yadda .... but to make amarr even close to the others you have to be lvl5 in everything. Unfortunately, any non amarr toon 6 months old will wipe his a$$ with a 2yr old amarr toon. Reason being, the amarr is STILL trying to train the relevent skills for gunnery and ship fittings.
Do you really think CCP devs give a toss about a 5th amarr frigate? Do you really think that they will give a rats a$$? They dont think of amarr full stop. They will NEVER improve amarr to equal any other race.
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Cpt Fina
Mutually Assured Distraction
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Posted - 2008.02.07 09:26:00 -
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Originally by: Nova Fox In that case you just used a role play reason to justify the role play reason why they dont have it. Imo the amarr should have additional ships dedicated to exploration since they do have thier subfaction of explorers. (Sisterhood of Eve)
I made a RP example that explained why amarr doesn't have the frigate just as the one I responded to made one that explained why thay should have it. I tried to show that gamebalance changes based on speculative RP jibberish is bad and can be twisted both ways. I'm sorry if if you failed to see this.
Originally by: Nova Fox
If you want to continue making roleplay adjustments or flavored per race ship amounts then why the gallente have too many gun ships? they should lose the other assault frigate and the demios.
Did I state that roleplay adjustments is something good in my post or are you simply having a hard time comprehending simple english?
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Frug
Zenithal Harvest
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Posted - 2008.02.07 09:39:00 -
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Oh noes, its Fina!
And she's talking english gibberish!
Fina RPs a pirate, btw.
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Frug
Zenithal Harvest
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Posted - 2008.02.07 09:39:00 -
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PS Fina is going to pod me for this if he finds me.
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Nova Fox
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Posted - 2008.02.07 14:51:00 -
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So you want to split hairs now?
If amarr should be short changed a standardized ship because of fleet reviews then i say everyone should get shortchanged as well, im sure the gallente wont miss thier gun toting dominix as its old and time for it to retire.
Variety is in options not taking options away, if there is to be more variety then there should be more ships. You dont get nepolian ice cream by taking away the strawberry or chocolate, I also understand you dont get it from adding to much vanillia. Im sure they can add the maganate exploration frigate without breaking the other three races or the whole galaxy sheesh. Similar to how the apoc is now a sniper it armor tanks and its all crunchy flavored while the smooth candy coated rohk shield tanks and offers a different out look at sniping, two different flavors in the same bucket of ice creme.
... I want ice cream now dammit!
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.02.07 15:14:00 -
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Originally by: Nova Fox So you want to split hairs now?
If amarr should be short changed a standardized ship because of fleet reviews then i say everyone should get shortchanged as well, im sure the gallente wont miss thier gun toting dominix as its old and time for it to retire.
Variety is in options not taking options away, if there is to be more variety then there should be more ships. You dont get nepolian ice cream by taking away the strawberry or chocolate, I also understand you dont get it from adding to much vanillia. Im sure they can add the maganate exploration frigate without breaking the other three races or the whole galaxy sheesh. Similar to how the apoc is now a sniper it armor tanks and its all crunchy flavored while the smooth candy coated rohk shield tanks and offers a different out look at sniping, two different flavors in the same bucket of ice creme.
... I want ice cream now dammit!
I still just think it's simply a case of what happens when they release the other tech 2 frigates?
the missing ammar frigate is why my electronic attack ship uses the same model as the cover ops ship.
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Nova Fox
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Posted - 2008.02.07 15:20:00 -
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Yeah the industrial catagory minmal requirement was 2 i belive each one for the individual tech 2 cousins.
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Nexus Kinnon
Synthetic Frontiers
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Posted - 2008.02.07 16:45:00 -
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why is this frigate so important to you? who even uses those frigates? ¼.¼
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MotherMoon
Huang Yinglong FOUNDATI0N
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Posted - 2008.02.07 17:00:00 -
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Originally by: Nexus Kinnon why is this frigate so important to you? who even uses those frigates? ¼.¼
read above, like I said without the other frigate I'm stuck with the minmatar electronic frigate as the hull for the astrometric frigate.
People do use exploration you know.
if they gave ammar a 5th frigate they could finally have a tech 2 probe hull!
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