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Jenshae Chiroptera
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Posted - 2012.02.22 00:00:00 -
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None ofthe Above wrote: I would encourage anyone who is unhappy with the existence and/or form of the CSM to vote for Tiger Would .
My post is voting as for your suggestion I see it as fuelling a broken system.
Thoughts / suspicions, "Tiger is a trick and when he is in CSM nothing holds him to his promises." Ideas & stuff EVE - the game of sand castles, either building them or kicking them down. -á Status: Taking a break |
None ofthe Above
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Posted - 2012.02.22 02:58:00 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:None ofthe Above wrote: I would encourage anyone who is unhappy with the existence and/or form of the CSM to vote for Tiger Would .
My post is voting as for your suggestion I see it as fuelling a broken system. Thoughts / suspicions, "Tiger is a trick and when he is in CSM nothing holds him to his promises."
It doesn't really matter on some levels what Tiger does or does not do. Could he be worse than what happens when you don't vote? Possibly, but no real indication of that.
More importantly: The message would already have been sent, which is what you where trying to accomplish anyway, yes?
In the end, its your choice, even if you make one I can't really comprehend. Just wanted to make the argument.
Hope you recover from whatever is ailing you quickly.
Even None ofthe Above supports Hans Jagerblitzen for CSM7! |
None ofthe Above
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Posted - 2012.02.22 03:03:00 -
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Oh and for the record...
... I support the inclusion of Abstain, a binding None of the Above, and Request to Disband options.
But while they are not there, I encourage everyone to vote their favorite candidate (Hans, FTW) or Tiger Would as a protest vote.
Even None ofthe Above supports Hans Jagerblitzen for CSM7! |
Jenshae Chiroptera
458
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Posted - 2012.02.22 12:22:00 -
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None ofthe Above wrote:Oh and for the record... ... I support the inclusion of Abstain, a binding None of the Above, and Request to Disband options. .
Added suspend to OP bullet points.
Ideas & stuff EVE - the game of sand castles, either building them or kicking them down. -á Status: Taking a break |
Jenshae Chiroptera
459
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Posted - 2012.02.22 23:53:00 -
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Have I won?
Almost half a day without any Kittens playing with this thread.
Give the wildest conspiracy reasons why they are suddenly keeping quiet! Ideas & stuff EVE - the game of sand castles, either building them or kicking them down. -á Status: Taking a break |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
140
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Posted - 2012.02.23 00:14:00 -
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Got bored? Busy being blown up?
Ooh, I got one. Don't give a damn anymore. Sort of like a forums-based version of apathy. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
Jenshae Chiroptera
459
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Posted - 2012.02.23 00:37:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Got bored? Busy being blown up?
Ooh, I got one. Don't give a damn anymore. Sort of like a forums-based version of apathy.
Those are too obvious. I said, "wild conspiracies" Ideas & stuff EVE - the game of sand castles, either building them or kicking them down. -á Status: Taking a break |
Jenshae Chiroptera
459
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Posted - 2012.02.24 15:40:00 -
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What a surprise, at a glance, Test Alliance x2 , Noir, Volition Cult, AAA, Goons x2, Pandemic x2, xxDeath, Razor, Darkside - another year to look forward to with null sec dominance of CSM.
*sigh.* I get so tired of being Cassandra
Quote: ... grant her the gift of prophecy. ... ... placed a curse on her so that no one would ever believe her predictions. She is a figure both of the epic tradition and of tragedy, where her combination of deep understanding and powerlessness exemplify the ironic condition of humankind ...
At least, when people slowly start waking up and crying all over the place, I can use this to rub their faces in it. Ideas & stuff EVE - the game of sand castles, either building them or kicking them down. -á Status: Taking a break |
None ofthe Above
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Posted - 2012.02.24 15:46:00 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:What a surprise, at a glance, Test Alliance x2 , Noir, Volition Cult, AAA, Goons x2, Pandemic x2, xxDeath, Razor, Darkside - another year to look forward to with null sec dominance of CSM. *sigh.* I get so tired of being CassandraQuote: ... grant her the gift of prophecy. ... ... placed a curse on her so that no one would ever believe her predictions. She is a figure both of the epic tradition and of tragedy, where her combination of deep understanding and powerlessness exemplify the ironic condition of humankind ...
At least, when people slowly start waking up and crying all over the place, I can use this to rub their faces in it.
Is that the goal?
Cause, sorry to say, a CSM that doesn't represent you is a self-fulfilling prophecy when you are preaching abstention.
Even None ofthe Above supports Hans Jagerblitzen for CSM7! |
Jenshae Chiroptera
459
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Posted - 2012.02.24 16:10:00 -
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None ofthe Above wrote: Is that the goal?
Cause, sorry to say, a CSM that doesn't represent you is a self-fulfilling prophecy when you are preaching abstention.
CSM removal and compromise with "These people do not represent me."
GMs would be more impartial, especially since they usually apply for a public relations and not a gaming job. They could play in Jove space to get the hang of the game and understand which ideas are good to put forward from the forums., while greeting new players. Ideas & stuff EVE - the game of sand castles, either building them or kicking them down. -á Status: Taking a break |
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
161
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Posted - 2012.02.24 17:15:00 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:What a surprise, at a glance, Test Alliance x2 , Noir, Volition Cult, AAA, Goons x2, Pandemic x2, xxDeath, Razor, Darkside - another year to look forward to with null sec dominance of CSM. ] Sounds like a rockin' time in the next CSM.
Don't forget the like 100 highsec candidates. We made sure there were as low as possible barriers to entry! Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
130
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Posted - 2012.02.24 17:31:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote: Don't forget the like 100 highsec candidates. We made sure there were as low as possible barriers to entry!
In a way, you could say that just about any of them is equivalent to a "None of the above" vote! |
Franklin D Roosevelt
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.24 18:00:00 -
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Is this a candidacy thread? I want to like it only if it will further dilute the candidate pool. |
Jenshae Chiroptera
459
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Posted - 2012.02.24 21:35:00 -
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Franklin D Roosevelt wrote:Is this a candidacy thread? I want to like it only if it will further dilute the candidate pool.
No, it would probably have more people voting but less of the votes would go to players generally. Ideas & stuff EVE - the game of sand castles, either building them or kicking them down. -á Status: Taking a break |
None ofthe Above
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Posted - 2012.02.24 21:39:00 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:None ofthe Above wrote: Is that the goal?
Cause, sorry to say, a CSM that doesn't represent you is a self-fulfilling prophecy when you are preaching abstention.
CSM removal and compromise with "These people do not represent me." GMs would be more impartial, especially since they usually apply for a public relations and not a gaming job. They could play in Jove space to get the hang of the game and understand which ideas are good to put forward from the forums., while greeting new players.
Ummm wut?
How did GMs and Jove space come into this?
Still say vote Tiger Would, best choice for you, and the folk that agree with you.
Even None ofthe Above supports Hans Jagerblitzen for CSM7! |
Jenshae Chiroptera
459
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Posted - 2012.02.24 21:42:00 -
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None ofthe Above wrote: Ummm wut?
How did GMs and Jove space come into this?.
They would do the CSM job properly without the meta-gaming garbage. Ideas & stuff EVE - the game of sand castles, either building them or kicking them down. -á Status: Taking a break |
None ofthe Above
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Posted - 2012.02.24 22:00:00 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:None ofthe Above wrote: Ummm wut?
How did GMs and Jove space come into this?.
They would do the CSM job properly without the meta-gaming garbage.
What do you think the CSM's job is?
Its a delegation of players elected to a council to sift through player suggestions, present them to CCP and act as a focus group for NDA'ed proposals from CCP. How would the GMs do that job?
Even None ofthe Above supports Hans Jagerblitzen for CSM7! |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1661
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Posted - 2012.02.24 23:57:00 -
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Pubbies mad about space democracy itt The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Jenshae Chiroptera
459
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Posted - 2012.02.25 03:29:00 -
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None ofthe Above wrote: What do you think the CSM's job is? How would the GMs do that job?
Its to sift through player suggestions, present them to CCP and act as a focus group for NDA'ed proposals from CCP.
Almost answered yourself.
Ideas & stuff EVE - the game of sand castles, either building them or kicking them down. -á Status: Taking a break |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
165
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Posted - 2012.02.25 03:40:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Pubbies mad about space democracy itt Space politics, meh. Take all the tech Build all the titans Drop all the POSes
Bees incoming, nerf ERRYTHING ERRYDAY |
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Jenshae Chiroptera
462
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Posted - 2012.02.25 14:42:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Pubbies mad about space democracy itt Space politics, meh.
Space politics, in the air. Ideas & stuff EVE - the game of sand castles, either building them or kicking them down. -á Status: Taking a break |
Jenshae Chiroptera
462
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Posted - 2012.02.27 16:11:00 -
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When ever I go to first warp in a Hurricane, I think of this. Ideas & stuff EVE - the game of sand castles, either building them or kicking them down. -á Status: Taking a break |
The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5479
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Posted - 2012.02.27 22:55:00 -
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hey, you just got kicked out of your alliance and awoxed for being annoying and posting threads like this
i guess you could say... ~democracy does not work~
The Office of the Chairman: A Thread for Constituent Issues |
Eli Grange
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.02.27 23:03:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:hey, you just got kicked out of your alliance and awoxed for being annoying and posting threads like this
i guess you could say... ~democracy does not work~
http://pastebin.com/20s9J0Aj |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2529
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Posted - 2012.02.27 23:09:00 -
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well this thread just rocketed into the amazingsphere |
Pandares
hindsight is 20-20
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Posted - 2012.02.27 23:19:00 -
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None ofthe Above wrote:Steve Ronuken wrote:Akrasjel Lanate wrote:Two step wrote:What about people like me, or Trebor, or Meissa, all of whom aren't members of large alliances, who are on the CSM? Doesn't that prove that you are wrong that large alliance backing is required to be elected? exception proves the rule https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exception_that_proves_the_rule Thank you for posting. It drives me crazy when people use this to avoid looking at data rationally. Most misunderstood idiom.
Anyone with half a brain would know that an exception actually disproves a rule. |
Jenshae Chiroptera
462
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Posted - 2012.02.27 23:26:00 -
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The Mittani wrote:hey, you just got kicked out of your alliance and awoxed for being annoying and posting threads like this
i guess you could say... ~democracy does not work~
If I had been kicked out then there would be a NPC corp in my recent employment history and if I was awoxed [killed by people in same fleet] then there would be a kill mail no doubt being used to try and rub my face in it.
Fortunately, there are still some decent people in this world who were good enough to give me the heads up.
Three mails exist so far and my two were sent because I had this stupid hope that they could address their internal problems and thrive instead of constantly bleeding members. Anyway, washing my hands of the matter, time to look forward.
Null Sec really that boring for you guys to be looking for stories about the peasants?
Ideas & stuff EVE - the game of sand castles, either building them or kicking them down. -á Status: Taking a break |
Pandares
hindsight is 20-20
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Posted - 2012.02.27 23:28:00 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Status: Taking a break
Real life really that boring for you to be looking for stories about Eve? |
Jenshae Chiroptera
462
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Posted - 2012.02.27 23:33:00 -
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Pandares wrote:Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:Status: Taking a break
Real life really that boring for you to be looking for stories about Eve?
Aww ... aren't you cute! Ideas & stuff EVE - the game of sand castles, either building them or kicking them down. -á Status: Taking a break |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1684
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Posted - 2012.02.27 23:40:00 -
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To me it looks like Jenshae is saying we should cancel the election and keep the current CSM in place. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
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