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IzumiSan
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Posted - 2008.02.12 21:17:00 -
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Edited by: IzumiSan on 12/02/2008 21:32:47 I just got my new computer, the following spec is
Intel E8400 @ 4.2ghz EVGA 8800GTS 512mb 780 core clock 4gb Crucial Ballistix ram
so I shouldn't have any problems running this game, for some reason, my eve client just CRASHES my computer, i see a flash of BLUE SCREEN for a less then a sec and then my computer just restarts.
This happened to me 3 times now and its making the game un playable, I have overclock my CPU and GPU and my RAM, but I have ran Orthos, prim 95 for hours and it is STABLE.
I have played other games that requires more demanding performance such as crysis and ihave played through the entire game without problems,
what is wrong with it? can anyone help?
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Leandro Salazar
The Blackguard Wolves
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Posted - 2008.02.12 21:22:00 -
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Edited by: Leandro Salazar on 12/02/2008 21:21:49 You nanoed up your comp too much and CCP swung the nerfbat?
Sorry, no idea whats really wrong but since I cannot play due to constantly discoing thanks to telekom/level3, I just have to leave witty comments somewhere...
Are you using Vista maybe? I am sure there would be a willing culprit ;)
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IzumiSan
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Posted - 2008.02.12 21:32:00 -
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I am using windows xp sp2, yeah i have the latest drivers for my gpu, and all sorts, it could either be my ram or my audio
because my ram timing might either be tight, or the audio.
I have realtek HD audio, it is an onboard sound card from gigabyte GA-p35-DS3R motherboard
right now i turned off the audio and i will see if that is the problem, although i would really liek to have audio >_<
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CCP Mitnal
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Posted - 2008.02.12 22:02:00 -
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Realtek 1
Realtek 2
Either of those two stickies help?
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Vireti
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Posted - 2008.02.13 00:47:00 -
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to be honest i wouldn't refer to any pc as high end if it didn't have a sound card. K, on-board is alot better than it used to be but as you've found it's still not great, even the cheap ones you'll find in your local shop are better although with those specs i'm not sure you'd really notice the extra few fps an add in will give you
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Reygrimm
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Posted - 2008.02.13 02:32:00 -
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My latest fix for all my crash troubles is to drop hardware acceleration down a ocuple notches (right click on screen: properties/settings/advanced/troubleshoot, then move bar). And then run in windows mode so the mouse curser doesn't blink.
No clue if it will fix your probs, but I'm happy I can play EVE again :)
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RaTTuS
BIG Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2008.02.13 10:26:00 -
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and you realise of cause that you can only use 3Gb of that 4Gb of ram ?
... run also ram checker [free version] -- BIG Lottery, BIG Deal, InEve & Portrait Server
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achoura
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Posted - 2008.02.13 12:27:00 -
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Actually you don;t mention your os, because if its vista there's an optional patch for pc having problems running with over 3 gig ram. ***The EVE servers and their patches*** |
RaTTuS
BIG Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2008.02.13 12:31:00 -
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He mentions XP SP2 in the 2n'd post -- BIG Lottery, BIG Deal, InEve & Portrait Server
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Falkrich Swifthand
Caldari eNinjas Incorporated
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Posted - 2008.02.13 17:38:00 -
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Edited by: Falkrich Swifthand on 13/02/2008 17:43:13
Originally by: RaTTuS ... run also ram checker [free version]
1: Definitely run memtest, preferably overnight. At the very least let it do a full pass through your ram (could take hours with 4GB). Press space when it's running so that it stops when after it finds a dozen or so errors.
If it finds ANY errors then your overclock is too high (ram clock too high, timings too tight or ram/ram controller voltage too low) or your ram is bad. No complaints about it being stable, that memtest must be wrong. It's NOT wrong, it's just REALLY thorough. I've seen ram at stock speed fail memtest, with as little as a single BIT worth of error in 5 passes. It's still bad. Note that some of the tests memtest does on your ram are dependant on your cpu being perfectly stable, but if you pass prime95 without error like you say then you have nothing to worry about.
2: Turn off Windows' automatic restart on error (somewhere in system properties), and next time you get a blue screen see what it says is the culprit (both the error message at the top and the name of the problem file in the middle). If it randomly varies on each bluescreen then it's typically bad hardware / overclock, if it's (almost) always the same file/error then it's likely a dodgy driver or dodgy hardware that that driver is responsible for.
Also I also had a lot of trouble with Realtek "HD" audio myself. nullnull |
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Speed Tanker
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Posted - 2008.02.13 17:40:00 -
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Originally by: RaTTuS and you realise of cause that you can only use 3Gb of that 4Gb of ram ?
... run also ram checker [free version]
Not 100% true. The upper 2GB are all accessible, but can have limited access depending on how the driver was built. NVIDIA drivers can (but won't) access the upper 2GB. Not sure about ATI. Not that it matters because EVE doesn't need 2GB to run.
Also, if you've installed 4GB or RAM on a 32bit OS, you should have virtual memory set to a minimum because it can compete with the accessable RAM, and RAM will always be faster than a spinning disk.
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Exstasia
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Posted - 2008.02.13 19:48:00 -
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Edited by: Exstasia on 13/02/2008 19:48:36 Edited by: Exstasia on 13/02/2008 19:48:16 this has actually happened to me once aswell since i installed the game a few days ago, hasn't done it again since but my computer is the following specs: intel quad core 2.6 (basically 10 GHZ) 4GB DDR2 800 RAM NVIDIA 8800 GTS (320) NVidia motherboard (the SLI board, forgot exactly what one) Sound Blaster Audigy ZS 2 sound card windows XP pro 32x Western digital RAPTOR 10,000rpm - 150GB
dunno what else to really put here... maybe this can broaden the support for your question, and possibly stop mine from doing it again aswell.
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Thargat
Caldari North Star Networks Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2008.02.13 19:56:00 -
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Originally by: Exstasia Edited by: Exstasia on 13/02/2008 19:48:36 Edited by: Exstasia on 13/02/2008 19:48:16 this has actually happened to me once aswell since i installed the game a few days ago, hasn't done it again since but my computer is the following specs: intel quad core 2.6 (basically 10 GHZ) 4GB DDR2 800 RAM NVIDIA 8800 GTS (320) NVidia motherboard (the SLI board, forgot exactly what one) Sound Blaster Audigy ZS 2 sound card windows XP pro 32x Western digital RAPTOR 10,000rpm - 150GB
dunno what else to really put here... maybe this can broaden the support for your question, and possibly stop mine from doing it again aswell.
First I'd say (by gut feeling) that it's mem related. Try notching your DDRs down a bit (twiddle around in the BIOS, check some forums that discuss your mobo and specific DDRS).
Secondly.... dude WHY are you running a 32bits XP on a machine with 64bits CPU?!
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Emperor D'Hoffryn
No Quarter. Vae Victis.
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Posted - 2008.02.14 00:09:00 -
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Originally by: Speed Tanker
Originally by: RaTTuS and you realise of cause that you can only use 3Gb of that 4Gb of ram ?
... run also ram checker [free version]
Not 100% true. The upper 2GB are all accessible, but can have limited access depending on how the driver was built. NVIDIA drivers can (but won't) access the upper 2GB. Not sure about ATI. Not that it matters because EVE doesn't need 2GB to run.
Also, if you've installed 4GB or RAM on a 32bit OS, you should have virtual memory set to a minimum because it can compete with the accessable RAM, and RAM will always be faster than a spinning disk.
actually, it is 100% true. The entire video cards memory IS shadowed into your memory address space, regardless of drivers. you can verify this in device manager.
so what he really has (usuable) is 4gig - 768mb(880 gtx) -(everything else)
Originally by: Meridius Dex I could actually fit a Thorax WITH LASERS and get better DPS, better speed, better tank and - wait for it - better cap stability
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Emperor D'Hoffryn
No Quarter. Vae Victis.
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Posted - 2008.02.14 00:12:00 -
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Originally by: Thargat
Originally by: Exstasia Edited by: Exstasia on 13/02/2008 19:48:36 Edited by: Exstasia on 13/02/2008 19:48:16 this has actually happened to me once aswell since i installed the game a few days ago, hasn't done it again since but my computer is the following specs: intel quad core 2.6 (basically 10 GHZ) 4GB DDR2 800 RAM NVIDIA 8800 GTS (320) NVidia motherboard (the SLI board, forgot exactly what one) Sound Blaster Audigy ZS 2 sound card windows XP pro 32x Western digital RAPTOR 10,000rpm - 150GB
dunno what else to really put here... maybe this can broaden the support for your question, and possibly stop mine from doing it again aswell.
First I'd say (by gut feeling) that it's mem related. Try notching your DDRs down a bit (twiddle around in the BIOS, check some forums that discuss your mobo and specific DDRS).
Secondly.... dude WHY are you running a 32bits XP on a machine with 64bits CPU?!
64-bit has compatiblity problems with alot of programs, and some hardware has less developed 64-bit drivers. unless you are doing something specific, running 32-bit is not only fine, but usually faster with the current generation of games.
This will of course change over time. Plus, once proper BIOSes are released, you will be able to remap your memory mappings for your vid card above the 4gig limit if you run 64-bit OS, so you can actually use all of that 4gig of memory, instead of 4gig-768mb(8800gtx) that he has now.
Originally by: Meridius Dex I could actually fit a Thorax WITH LASERS and get better DPS, better speed, better tank and - wait for it - better cap stability
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Azuse
Live and Learn Inc.
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Posted - 2008.02.14 01:47:00 -
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Very true, simply have a 64bit cpu doesn't mean 64bit os, the p4 i had for 3 years was 64 bit but, like most things back then, getting drivers for everything else was impossible.
Now however, assuming your hardware is from a major player you should be fine, even tv cards come with 64 bit drivers now and if you can't find what you need vista x64 has most built in and some manufacturers like logitech released generic backwards compatible (their setpoint software covers all mice) drivers.
It's always worth double checking but since your mobo supports 45nm chip it's a reasonably safe bet, 64x is faster, more stable thanks to mandatory driver signing - amazing how many issues crapy drivers create - but perhaps more importantly to you it will be able to access all of your ram
It has it's niggles but rally it's worth it, my 8400 just flys -------------------------
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