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Stonecrusher Mortlock
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.16 02:28:00 -
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Im just saying. i guess they sleep whenwhen logged out in a station but what about if there in a WH system or there just in space? |
FreshClip
Tax On Happyness
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Posted - 2012.02.16 10:51:00 -
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DO NOT QUESTION THE POWERS THAT BE! My latest video Reverie |
Tavin Aikisen
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2012.02.16 13:18:00 -
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I've got nothing to support it, but I just have a feeling that being in the pod itself is close to sleeping. The same way eating and other bodily functions are simply "taken care of", the same applies to sleeping.
Given that in the pod only so much is required of the body. A lot of what is happening is from the mind. ---- Remember this. Trust your eyes, you will kill each other. Trust your veins, you can all go home. -Cold Wind |
Ender Black
Lone Star Exploration Lone Star Partners
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Posted - 2012.02.16 14:55:00 -
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But sleep is for the mind more than the body. I would imagine that extended periods of pod activity require sleep. Sleeping in the pod shouldn't be a difficult concept. If anything needs to happen, the ship's AI (or crew) wake the gooey bastard up. The Pod Goo Podcast http://www.podgoo.com
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Roga Dracor
Mental Disorders Inc.
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Posted - 2012.02.16 16:12:00 -
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This poses an excellent question.. What is sleep? A partial disconnect from bodily awareness? Isn't a Capsuleer already in that state? So, does a Capsuleer need to sleep at all, while in pod, anyway? Do Sleepers sleep? Can infomorphs dream? |
Stonecrusher Mortlock
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.02.16 17:52:00 -
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i'm just wondering, because it would seam that pod guys would still need sleep sleep dose more for your mind than body( even tho your body dose like the 8 hours of doing nothing.)
i'm assuming they CAN sleep in the pod.
but do they? |
Tavin Aikisen
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2012.02.17 00:14:00 -
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Ender Black wrote:But sleep is for the mind more than the body. I would imagine that extended periods of pod activity require sleep. Sleeping in the pod shouldn't be a difficult concept. If anything needs to happen, the ship's AI (or crew) wake the gooey bastard up.
In that case I'm thinking perhaps they do need to sleep and it's simply whenever the player is offline. A few metagame aspects are all explained within the confines of the game, so this could be another? Remember this. Trust your eyes, you will kill each other. Trust your veins, you can all go home. -Cold Wind |
Wyke Mossari
Staner Industries
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Posted - 2012.02.17 20:00:00 -
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Perhaps while asleep, our dreams take us travelling, Oneironautics to RL. Consider the Dream argument. The idea that when dreaming we usually do not know we are dreaming. We are travelling to OR from new Eden. We must be cautious when trying to distinguish dreams (illusion) from reality. The mind can be tricked within a dream. The idea that the mind and body are considered fundamentally separate, the Mind Body Dichotomy!. When your own mind is the prison there are no walls. |
Ender Black
Lone Star Exploration Lone Star Partners
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Posted - 2012.02.17 21:25:00 -
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Wyke Mossari wrote:Perhaps while asleep, our dreams take us travelling, Oneironautics to RL. Consider the Dream argument. The idea that when dreaming we usually do not know we are dreaming. We are travelling to OR from new Eden. We must be cautious when trying to distinguish dreams (illusion) from reality. The mind can be tricked within a dream. The idea that the mind and body are considered fundamentally separate, the Mind Body Dichotomy!. When your own mind is the prison there are no walls.
You might want to lay off the Mindflood.... The Pod Goo Podcast http://www.podgoo.com
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shadowace00007
Beyond The Gates The Methodical Alliance
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Posted - 2012.02.20 16:43:00 -
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Tavin Aikisen wrote:The same way eating and other bodily functions are simply "taken care of"
And now we know where the Goo comes form.
Born Amarrian Raised Minmatar. |
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Istvaan Shogaatsu
Guiding Hand Social Club
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Posted - 2012.02.20 17:04:00 -
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Ender Black wrote:Wyke Mossari wrote:Perhaps while asleep, our dreams take us travelling, Oneironautics to RL. Consider the Dream argument. The idea that when dreaming we usually do not know we are dreaming. We are travelling to OR from new Eden. We must be cautious when trying to distinguish dreams (illusion) from reality. The mind can be tricked within a dream. The idea that the mind and body are considered fundamentally separate, the Mind Body Dichotomy!. When your own mind is the prison there are no walls. You might want to lay off the Mindflood....
Why? Mindflood is the key. |
Vetrox Satria
Canadian Forces Corp
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Posted - 2012.02.20 18:01:00 -
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But if youre asleep how can you be awake!?!?! but if youre awake how can you be asleep?!?!?
If the pod can take a flash of your mind and put it into a new body then maybe by some miracle of sci-fi sci(ence, see what i did there?) when you get tired it can take an image of your current mental state, Wipe your brain then apply said image but without applying the tired'ness of the iimage it took?
Or something along those lines |
Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2012.03.08 04:48:00 -
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Wyke Mossari wrote:Perhaps while asleep, our dreams take us travelling, Oneironautics to RL. Consider the Dream argument. The idea that when dreaming we usually do not know we are dreaming. We are travelling to OR from new Eden. We must be cautious when trying to distinguish dreams (illusion) from reality. The mind can be tricked within a dream. The idea that the mind and body are considered fundamentally separate, the Mind Body Dichotomy!. When your own mind is the prison there are no walls.
EVEception. |
Unit XS365BT
Unit Commune Celestial Imperative
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Posted - 2012.03.09 13:36:00 -
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to quote an unfortunately dead genius...
'It's just a ride.' -Bill Hicks |
Sage Revinour
Border Zone Excursions
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Posted - 2012.03.13 23:26:00 -
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Quote:Do Pod guys sleep? If so when?
When they're mining or running Incursions... |
Tomiko Kawase
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.03.14 07:49:00 -
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I think it would be particularly interesting for bots to be worked into the lore somehow relating to this. |
Azalas
Blood Paladins
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Posted - 2012.03.26 04:40:00 -
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All very good points! I believe pod pilots can sleep but the fact that they are connected to the ship they are piloting would mean they are fully aware on whats going on. Explained on TEA noval that pod pilots use tiny camera drones to look around the ship they piloting. During this, the pod pilot would be eyes closed not sleeping or asleep. Going offline in space prob could mean sleeping and crew/AI can take over ship duties. I like to think the ships i fly have no to some crewmen on board with little if not no knowledge that a pod pilot is onbourd. If i sleep i will offline and it will be on a comfi bed thank you very much!! It would be a nightmare waking up in a new clone body ;P
There is alot of possible ideas behind the topic and no hard facts about it unless ive missed something. |
Celestra Doxaila
MinTek Heavy Industries MinTek Conglomerate
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Posted - 2012.04.23 18:34:00 -
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Stonecrusher Mortlock wrote:Im just saying. i guess they sleep whenwhen logged out in a station but what about if there in a WH system or there just in space?
For one hour a day, during downtime. |
Che Biko
Humanitarian Communists
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Posted - 2012.04.23 19:58:00 -
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<<< This guy sleeps whenever he wants, wherever he wants, and that is rarely, if ever, in his pod, whether he is in his ship, WH-space, or docked. He simply prefers his bed. He has also not jacked in for a long time, but that does not mean he's spend all that time sleeping. |
Axel Kurki
Aseyakone
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Posted - 2012.04.27 22:46:00 -
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AFK?
I assume the pod pilots can sleep while in pod. The ship may recognize this and cut the guy in the capsule off the controls ("You don't believe it, I had this dream where I nuked Gallente Prime... wait, why are you looking at me that way?") and even have some kind of an alarm function to wake up the pilot when some predetermined things happen. (Such as another ship appearing within short-range sensor range.) |
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Samuel payne Thorstensen
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
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Posted - 2012.04.28 01:53:00 -
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Yes they do sleep. There are beds inside the stations. So they probably sleep if they need to. While they inside the pod don't require food, water, nor sleep - they do need everything a normal person would need outside it. |
Azahni Vah'nos
Vah'nos Family
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Posted - 2012.04.28 07:22:00 -
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This is certainly an interesting question because we as humans cannot completely stay awake indefinately, our concious mind has to sleep. Pod pilots are still biological entities so I think the same limitations would apply as to whether they need sleep or not, even if sleep times were shortened artificially.
And if they were sleep deprived:
Sleep Deprivation wrote:Complete absence of sleep over long periods is impossible for humans to achieve (unless they suffer from fatal familial insomnia); brief microsleeps cannot be avoided. Long-term total sleep deprivation has caused death in lab animals. There are a whole host of symptoms that occur with sleep deprivation including hallucinations, impaired moral judgement, symptoms similar to ADHD and psychosis just to name a few. This alternatively could actually explain the actions of many pod pilots.
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Rudgier Thorrin
CBC Interstellar Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2012.05.02 14:51:00 -
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I don't think that being jacked into a ships AI would have anything to do with sleeping. As I understand it our brains need to "reset" after a period of activity, to categorize new memories and stuff.
When you connect to the ship your conscience is not magically transported into a computer, it's still a function of the brain, the only difference being that now instead of getting signals from your body it gets them from the sips systems, hence the sensation of it being your body.
There are animals out there (in real world) that can overcome this by "switching off" parts of the brain, thus effectively being both asleep and awake at the same time. Maby capsuleer implants allow for that?
Also, do capsuleers dream of immortal sheep? > Implying I need a signature |
Pinstar Colton
Sweet Asteroid Acres
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Posted - 2012.05.11 17:58:00 -
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Sage Revinour wrote:Quote:Do Pod guys sleep? If so when? When they're mining or running Incursions...
High sec distribution missions too. I don't make minerals. I just make ore 20% cooler. |
Teinyhr
A Club for Reputable Gentlemen
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Posted - 2012.05.12 14:21:00 -
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I'm in no way an expert nor even an huge enthusiast in biological sciences, but as far as I understand, pod pilots sleep all the time - when they're in their pods, their body is effectively sleeping. Current theory I think is, that sleeping has a lot to do with sorting out the experiences of the day and helping the brain memorize stuff. So yes they would probably need to sleep some time to prevent sudden bouts of insanity, but pod pilots I'd imagine are far more flexible in sleep cycles, possibly being awake days in a row without much ill effects. So as to the OP - I think pod pilots can catch some Z's when it's most suitable for them - basicly out of harms way at least for a few hours. |
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